00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.02.28 00:01:47 --- join: nballen (n=nballen@ppp-69-239-137-85.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) joined #forth 00:13:20 --- quit: ravenEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00:17:29 --- join: ravenEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-239-63.aichyna.com) joined #forth 00:23:40 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 00:26:27 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool74-148.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 00:29:56 --- quit: Topaz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:32:12 --- join: skylan_ (n=sjh@dialup-216-211-5-81.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 00:35:37 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@pdpc/supporter/student/Herkamire) joined #forth 00:35:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 00:36:48 humpf 00:40:33 I've been glaring at some retroforth docs.. Anyone able to explain the diff between "classes" and "vocs" and "wordlists"? 00:42:17 It APPEARS, (to me), that: a Voc is basically a Wordlist - but that "class" seems to come-about/get-involved once you get the XT... And are running? 00:43:49 Sorta' like the "class" could be "binary-operators", "compiling-only", etc? 00:45:12 This sorta' suggests either the header stores some extra data, or the body does - to id the "class" before it gets to any pcode or asm? 00:45:23 --- quit: skylan (Success) 00:46:28 No takers? 01:08:44 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 01:26:56 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool64-239.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 01:45:04 --- join: PoppaVic1 (n=pete@0-1pool75-204.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 01:45:23 --- quit: PoppaVic (Nick collision from services.) 01:45:25 --- nick: PoppaVic1 -> PoppaVic 01:46:19 PoppaVic: well, the class thing is supposed to replace macro/forth or immediate/not immediate 01:46:26 come to #retro and crc will be able to explain better 01:46:27 or thin 01:46:48 hmm 01:51:36 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 02:42:51 --- join: ravenExEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-239-63.aichyna.com) joined #forth 02:47:57 --- quit: Invifer4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:49:58 --- quit: ravenEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 02:56:15 --- quit: ravenExEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03:03:14 --- join: thin (i=thin@69.46.24.28) joined #forth 03:03:22 --- part: thin left #forth 03:07:59 --- join: ravenEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-224-225.aichyna.com) joined #forth 03:50:45 --- quit: neceve ("Bye people, I'm leaving") 04:13:46 --- quit: PoppaVic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:16:56 --- join: ravenExEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-224-225.aichyna.com) joined #forth 05:24:07 --- quit: ravenEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 05:32:08 --- quit: madwork (SendQ exceeded) 05:32:52 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 05:33:45 --- join: ravenEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-224-225.aichyna.com) joined #forth 05:41:07 --- quit: ravenExEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 05:44:16 --- join: Ray_work (i=Raystm2@adsl-68-94-190-37.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 05:47:52 --- quit: Ray_work (Client Quit) 05:49:14 --- quit: ravenEx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 06:39:41 --- quit: Cheery ("Leaving") 07:20:23 --- quit: uiuiuiu (Remote closed the connection) 07:20:25 --- join: uiuiuiu (i=ian@dslb-084-056-221-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 07:33:13 --- quit: Snoopy42 () 07:44:59 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-167-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 08:10:01 --- join: Topaz (n=top@sown-96.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 08:22:30 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=roger@136.160.196.126) joined #forth 08:52:28 --- quit: rabbitwhite () 09:51:17 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 10:04:32 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=roger@136.160.196.126) joined #forth 10:46:34 --- quit: rabbitwhite () 11:09:58 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 11:11:32 --- join: thinkinginbinary (n=tom@phoenix.thomastuttle.mooo.com) joined #forth 11:11:46 Quartus: Does MOVE have to handle overlapping address ranges? 11:18:25 --- quit: thinkinginbinary ("leaving") 11:18:40 Not a patient fellow. 11:19:23 --- join: Invifer4 (i=WINNT@12-208-98-237.client.insightBB.com) joined #forth 11:45:09 --- join: Amanita_Virosa (n=jenni@ppp-70-248-225-168.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 11:56:00 --- quit: Invifer4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:35:00 --- quit: Amanita_Virosa ("Wewps.") 12:37:41 --- quit: _crc () 12:49:58 --- join: crc (i=crc@pool-70-16-150-221.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 12:50:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 13:01:53 --- nick: skylan_ -> skylan 13:59:11 --- join: rsync2 (i=nobody@CPE000c41aac435-CM00111ae4f4cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:44:42 --- quit: rsync2 ("Leaving") 16:00:54 brain not functioning 16:00:55 must 16:00:56 have 16:00:59 water! 16:01:13 errr 16:01:16 maybe sleep... 16:12:06 --- quit: virl ("Verlassend") 16:55:10 --- quit: nballen () 17:21:28 --- join: Cheery (i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 17:58:48 --- join: Topaz (n=top@sown-96.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 18:04:08 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 18:07:00 --- join: Topaz (n=top@sown-96.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 18:07:10 --- quit: Topaz (Client Quit) 18:50:23 --- join: ccfg (n=ccfg@dsl-roigw3-feb0dc00-66.dhcp.inet.fi) joined #forth 18:54:38 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-166.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 19:03:16 --- quit: Cheery (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:05:47 --- join: Cheery (n=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 19:25:47 --- quit: nanstm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:25:55 --- join: Raystm2 (n=Raystm2@adsl-69-149-37-114.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 21:20:22 --- quit: amca ("d34d") 22:04:53 --- quit: Cheery (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:07:31 --- join: Cheery (i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 22:34:26 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 22:44:13 --- join: ravenEx (i=ravenEx@VPN-224-226.aichyna.com) joined #forth 22:52:30 --- join: Cheery_ (i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 22:53:13 --- quit: Cheery_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:01:40 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-2pool198-124.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 23:04:16 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-156.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 23:07:53 hello 23:08:02 how-dee 23:08:11 you happen to have telnet client installed? 23:08:35 Umm, prolly. I use it when ssh acts broken. 23:09:02 i have a simh VAX VMS running at myvax.richardsnow.net and just wanted to see if you get the vms login prompt. 23:09:52 shows you in chicago 23:10:04 thanks 23:10:12 csure 23:11:00 took all **** night to get the networking working. The biggest problem is that my suse system has the two nics numbered eth1 and eth2 but to get eth2 in simh I had to specify eth1 :) 23:11:24 I dread the concept of ever getting a home-net running. 23:11:52 As an Admin, I'm a good Programmer 23:12:13 so the net was not operational at all when I tried to specify eth2 of course because it was the non-existent eth3 23:12:23 hehe 23:13:10 I'd prolly understand easier if you were using chicken-blood, fetishes and quotes from the Old Testament. 23:13:18 shalom 23:13:25 lol 23:13:29 see? ;-) 23:13:41 hebrew for "Peace" 23:13:46 yep 23:16:11 To be honest, I never could understand WHY TF it was always so goddamned messy to set up these networks... S'not like they change hugely over the years. 23:16:32 finally got my HP user group number back yesterday, that's what I needed to retrieve my license for VAX/vms 23:17:07 iirc, folks used to scream a LOT at VMS 23:17:37 I actually used it on the job for about 3 years , as a sysadmin, dba, and programmer 23:17:49 ewwwey 23:18:42 all previous background was with IBM equipment, but they would not hire me 23:19:33 Sounds typical. 23:20:09 IBM i mean ... got a letter the very next day in my motel room "You are not suitable for employment at IBM" 23:20:14 I gave up trying to get paid to program Let 'em outsource. 23:20:26 I believe it 23:21:08 Microshaft didn't need me either :) 23:22:26 so now I collect 100 percent disability and muck about with open source. (rstudio on freshmeat.net is a simple project I've done) 23:22:58 Well.. I liked OS/2-Warp - the only IBM stuff I sorta' liked. And, nothing M$ ever did interested me. 23:23:15 IBM mainframes (pre-PC) 23:23:23 360/370 series 23:23:45 have an emulator running for the 370 on this linux box too :) 23:23:49 Yeah, I've head of 'em ;-) Only mainframe I ever "used" was the damned PDP-11 at school. 23:24:03 simh has a pdp 11 sim too 23:24:11 I'll pass ;-> 23:24:24 it wouldn't be bad for forth :) 23:24:33 I can't even stand to see asm-ish anymore 23:25:01 I had a PDP 11 in my house once , but it was my uncles, in temp storage. 23:25:12 should have bought it from him but I had no money 23:25:43 powered up ok 23:26:39 the uncle died about 2 years ago 23:27:12 My condolences. Still, a mainframe would just magnify the pains we all get - part-costs, admin, etc. 23:27:35 a simulated one has none of that :) 23:27:48 except software stuff 23:31:15 so any way I am in the middle of major cleaning project and need to get back to it. Just wanted to see if this program was accessible from the outside. thanks again. 23:32:26 Cool 23:32:55 first warm weather we've had in weeks. got motivated to clean the house which I've been neglecting because the cold made me sick. 23:35:00 just noticed you pasted the telnet output in PoppaVic 23:35:16 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 23:44:08 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 23:52:50 Hmmm.. 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.02.28