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19:44:39 <Quartus> Hey all.
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20:28:23 <Raystm2> Hi Quartus! I'm reading... http://eventdrivenpgm.sourceforge.net/event_driven_programming.pdf
20:31:51 <Quartus> How's it going? Good doc?
20:33:13 <Raystm2> So far.
20:33:29 <Raystm2> How goes it with you, sir?
20:36:24 <Quartus> Not too badly. Got a couple more puppets up on ebay. :)
20:38:45 <Raystm2> Do you? How cool. I'm impressed with your output.
20:39:02 <Raystm2> How long does it take to assemble such a thing?
20:39:07 <Quartus> Doing the best I can. These are vintage models from the first UHF-only episodes of the show.
20:39:21 <Quartus> Two, three days, including the painting.
20:39:31 <Raystm2> Neat hobby.
20:39:42 <Quartus> It's fun.
20:40:02 * Raystm2 notices much of what I create out side of work is intangible.
20:42:42 <Raystm2> That might be because I build so many tangible things in a day.
20:42:50 <Quartus> Balance.
20:42:53 <Raystm2> Ya.
20:44:09 <Raystm2> Do you just recreate the robots, or are there other "things" ( for want of a better word) ?
20:46:52 <Quartus> There are indeed other things.  I have built Widowmaker (a Volkswagen bus with rockets on it), a Nanite (a microscopic robot), and theater versions (all black) of both Crow and Servo.
20:47:17 <Quartus> And of course I make & sell pars.
20:47:19 <Quartus> parts.
20:47:32 <Raystm2> Very cool.
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20:47:45 <Quartus> Keeps me off the streets. :)
20:47:51 <Raystm2> hehe.
20:48:23 * Raystm2 plays guitar when he needs to ... what, veg out?
20:48:31 <Raystm2> decompress.
20:48:45 <snowrichard> I listen to music I'm not much good at making it
20:48:52 <Raystm2> :)
20:49:06 <snowrichard> I'm learning APL there is a free version called APLX
20:50:19 <snowrichard> not open source
20:50:24 * Raystm2 googles.
20:50:29 * Raystm2 finds
20:50:36 * Raystm2 says...
20:50:38 <Raystm2> Oh okay.
20:50:59 <Raystm2> Your thoughts on this language, so far?
20:51:28 <snowrichard> interesting concept added since I saw the original IBM mainframe version is nested arrays
20:51:41 <snowrichard> any element of array can be another
20:52:41 <Raystm2> As deep as you want?
20:52:56 <snowrichard> up to 64 dimensions I think
20:54:25 <Raystm2> cool.
20:54:47 <snowrichard> i've started with some simple functions for character strings INITNAME   APPENDNAME 'name'  and a helper RESHAPENAME vector
20:55:15 <snowrichard> the debugger is very easy to use
20:55:43 <snowrichard> you can make a correction and resume exec of your function where it stopped
20:55:43 <Quartus> I worked quite a bit with APL about 15 years ago.
20:56:12 <Raystm2> Ho, that's neat! I don't think i've ever seen that.
20:56:29 <Raystm2> Quartus: what did you do with APL?
20:56:58 <Quartus> Primarily maintenance of legacy code for a bank.
20:57:18 <Raystm2> I see.
20:57:23 <snowrichard> the real example I wanted to try was to manage my checking account actually
20:58:05 <Quartus> APL tends to be short on pretty interfaces. :)
20:58:25 <snowrichard> took me a long time to find the quote-quad on the keyboard map :) 
20:58:31 <Quartus> And you're unlikely to need multidimensional matrices for your checking account, unless you spend money in more than one universe. :)
20:59:18 <Quartus> Ivarson went on to build J, and I think K also.
20:59:25 <snowrichard> Yeah I have J too
20:59:39 <Quartus> No freaky symbols in those.
21:00:18 <snowrichard> my sirius receiver keeps losing its signal.  I think I need to reposition the antenna in my window
21:00:35 <Quartus> So you're not completely sirius?
21:01:07 <Raystm2> hehe, snowrichard:  are you subscribed, or did you "make do" ?
21:01:38 <snowrichard> I'm subscribed
21:01:48 * Raystm2 can't count the number of things that were free when he was a kid, that you pay for now.
21:01:56 <snowrichard> TV , radio
21:02:00 <Raystm2> water
21:02:05 <snowrichard> air
21:02:12 <Raystm2> love
21:02:26 <Raystm2> christmas
21:03:03 <Quartus> Advice, still free.
21:03:25 <snowrichard> as far as interfaces, it has GUI objects for that
21:03:32 <Raystm2> matches
21:03:38 <Quartus> APLX may.  APL stock, not so much.
21:04:19 <snowrichard> version 3.0 is for pay, 99 brit pounds
21:04:34 <Raystm2> You can still get napkins, sugar, ketchup, catsup, mustard, mayonaise, and now picante sauce, if you know where to look, oh, straws.
21:05:13 <Raystm2> Refills, if you don't leave, potentially un-ending.
21:06:01 <Quartus> Refills of coffee or sugar-water.
21:06:06 <snowrichard> I built me a 12 volt power hookup from an existing adapter I had and a lighter socket from AutoZone.  The lighter socket was only $2.50.  Radio Shack wanted $60 for a supply with a lighter socket
21:06:19 <Raystm2> In Texas, tea is a big thing. I think that might be a 'Suthen' thing..
21:06:32 <Raystm2> Quartus: both.
21:06:43 <Quartus> Sold a replica soap dish to a fellow in Texas today.
21:07:00 <Raystm2> replica soap dish.
21:07:07 <Raystm2> that's what he said.
21:07:17 <Raystm2> replica soap dish?
21:07:21 <Quartus> Yup. Reproduction of an out-of-production soap dish.
21:07:31 <Raystm2> snowrichard: great thinking there!
21:07:49 <Raystm2> How old is the original?
21:07:58 <Quartus> The dish? From the 50's.
21:08:00 <Raystm2> BC?
21:08:01 <Raystm2> oh
21:08:15 <snowrichard> I sent an email to sirius suggesting they sell 12v supplies in the store near the car recievers.
21:08:37 <Raystm2> snowrichard: why don't you?
21:08:45 <Raystm2> You'd be rich!
21:08:51 <Raystm2> Walmart alone.
21:09:17 <Raystm2> You could get them assembled in China, shipped in, and only ever handle paperwork and phonecalls.
21:09:38 <Quartus> And lawsuits.
21:09:48 <Raystm2> Lawsuits?
21:09:52 <Raystm2> :)
21:10:00 <snowrichard> found a place on Ebay that is selling one for 99 cents but the shipping is 5.50
21:10:05 <Raystm2> hehe
21:10:15 <Raystm2> No it's not.
21:10:20 <snowrichard> haven't gotten it yet
21:10:20 <Raystm2> the charge is.
21:10:38 <Raystm2> but the cost at UPS is less then 4 dollars.
21:10:48 <Raystm2> For nearly the entire country.
21:11:01 <Raystm2> Depends on where they ship from.
21:11:24 <Quartus> Shipping on ebay is shipping+handling.  Packaging costs, etc.
21:11:49 <Raystm2> Now, where I am, Fort Worth-Dallas, it would be cheap to distribute less then a pound to much of North America.
21:11:51 <snowrichard> I have a dropshipper , they charge me a 2.00 fee on each order.
21:12:02 <Raystm2> I see.
21:12:26 <snowrichard> richardsnow.net/store
21:12:35 <Raystm2> cool /me links...
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21:14:34 <Raystm2> yikes, where did he go?
21:15:25 <Raystm2> I was gonna say, I wish I didn't have to "next" my way thru his catalogue, but see a line list to see if I'm even interested in wasting my time.
21:15:47 <Raystm2> Still, neat to have access to such items for sale.
21:16:42 <Raystm2> Tandy is headquartered just downtown. Plenty of places around here resell all kinds of hard to get RadioShack/Tandy/CompUSA stuff.
21:19:35 <Raystm2> Heck, I've got access to the best prices possible on several materials handling devices.
21:19:49 <Quartus> Nice.
21:19:58 <Raystm2> I often wonder what would happen if I just put up a page and made myself available to the world.
21:20:06 <Quartus> Give it a shot.
21:21:39 <Raystm2> Why not!
21:21:53 <Raystm2> I've discussed this with my supervisor, in the past.
21:22:12 <Raystm2> Normally, a pretty "hi-tech-gung-ho" kinda fella.
21:22:22 <Raystm2> He keeps trying to put me off the idea.
21:22:28 <Quartus> So don't tell him.
21:22:36 <Raystm2> :)
21:28:09 <Raystm2> CasterBastard is not used.
21:30:18 <Raystm2> And RaySt.Marie.com is also available.
21:30:19 <Quartus> Heh.
21:30:32 <Quartus> Well, URLs are less important than they used to be.
21:30:42 <Raystm2> True, true.
21:31:03 <Raystm2> Still, a phrase that says it all, says it all.
21:31:14 <Raystm2> 1800flowers.com and all.
21:31:22 <Raystm2> Quartus.net
21:31:25 <Quartus> If there's a tie-in, that might help.
21:31:30 <Raystm2> sure.
21:31:39 <Quartus> Quartus.net doesn't do quite that -- quartus.com is somebody else. So is quartus.org.
21:31:54 <Raystm2> I have 3 sites in heavy ( hehe ) development. 
21:31:58 <Raystm2> Oh I didn't know that.
21:32:14 <Raystm2> no relation to you then?
21:32:20 <Quartus> None.
21:32:34 <Quartus> Quartus.com is an engineering outfit; Quartus.org is a 'spiritual foundation'.
21:32:55 <Raystm2> ya.
21:32:58 <Raystm2> hmm.
21:35:51 <Raystm2> I've got a site for my original organizer, my ezguitarlesson, and the dot-info site for colorforth.
21:36:00 <Raystm2> I guess I could do a funnel.
21:36:14 <Quartus> Why not?
21:37:15 <Raystm2> all link to an about me page... and have a "Support me by buying the best priced, most personal attention possible online, materal handling devices".
21:37:22 <Raystm2> Some nice pics of the stock...
21:37:24 <Quartus> Go for it. :)
21:37:27 <Raystm2> hmm
21:38:09 <Raystm2> Boss would love it! I just know it. If I were to work myself out of a j.o.b. and sold for myself with my very own marketing campainge.
21:38:26 <Quartus> It's a free market.
21:38:34 <Raystm2> Heck I could have picks of the team building the products...
21:39:40 <Raystm2> sorry pictures, i mean.
21:39:45 <Raystm2> but you knew that.
21:40:32 <Quartus> I did :)
21:42:22 <Quartus> Gotta roll; sleep calls.
21:43:36 <Raystm2> Night. Thanks for inspiration.
21:43:41 <Quartus> Good night!
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