00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.12.05 00:00:57 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 00:32:52 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-3-58.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 00:33:36 Quartus: Hello 00:37:21 --- quit: amca (Client Quit) 03:09:24 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-3-64.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 03:10:42 Hello 03:13:30 hi amca 03:14:01 I added command line support to RetroForth 8.3 :) 03:18:02 hehe 03:18:10 I was just getting food :) 03:18:13 sweet 03:18:20 http://charleschilders.ath.cx:8000/projects/repos/803.tar.gz 03:18:31 Ill use that then :) thanks 03:18:37 np 03:19:09 -f filename will load and compile filename 03:19:21 I see 03:19:44 Why did you have the -f? Why not just ./rf [filename] ? 03:19:51 (Just curious) 03:20:14 Further command line expansion ability? 03:20:18 yes 03:20:27 rf evaluates the command line as a string of forth code 03:20:50 so you could do: rf ." hello world!" bye 03:20:52 and it'll work 03:21:12 -f is just a normal forth word 03:21:23 Ah! :) Sweet. Was it in there before? 03:21:28 nope 03:21:33 hehe 03:21:36 good idea :) 03:21:48 * amca applauds crc inventiveness 03:21:53 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 03:22:07 * crc chose to do it this way to allow basic CGI scripting to be done 03:22:17 :D 03:22:42 So to compile it in Win, I need fasm. do I need anything else? 03:22:53 a precompiled binary is included 03:22:53 make 03:22:59 cool 03:23:00 make, fasm 03:23:10 Sorry, I thought it was all source :) 03:23:12 cygwin is helpful, but not strictly required 03:23:16 no, not anymore 03:23:43 look in the "bin" directory for the binaries 03:23:43 Is the executable in bin/ ? 03:23:52 [amca@anakin 0tmp0]$ tarx ../803.tar.gz | grep bin 03:23:53 803/bin/ 03:24:05 problem. It doesnt seem to be there :) 03:24:48 hmm 03:25:32 redownload it 03:25:36 k 03:25:53 * crc will have to check the tarball generation script 03:26:02 is -f defined as 03:26:04 : -f load \f ; 03:26:05 ? 03:26:07 yes 03:26:23 :D My forth coding is getting better 03:27:04 This one seems to be taking longer to dl :) 03:27:45 I didn't strip out the darcs repo archive from this one 03:27:52 Ah 03:28:09 What is darcs repo? 03:28:35 darcs is a version control program which I use 03:29:08 http://www.darcs.net/ 03:29:39 Ah. An alternative to [CR]VS then? 03:30:16 yeah 03:30:32 Interesting 03:31:50 The Quantum reference caught my attention :) 03:37:05 I think I have the tarball script working properly now 03:37:34 I think it may not have been gziped 03:37:43 I thought I had a dud download 03:37:49 :( 03:37:53 then I realised it could just be a tar 03:37:59 Im dl it again 03:38:02 ok 03:38:03 Ill double check 03:38:24 [amca@anakin 0tmp0]$ tar -xvf ../803.tar.gz 03:38:24 gzip: stdin: not in gzip format 03:38:24 tar: Child returned status 1 03:38:24 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors 03:38:38 hmm 03:38:56 the newest one I uploaded is in gzip format 03:39:26 * crc had a very buggy tarball generation script apparently 03:40:01 Ill cancel this dl and try again then 03:40:03 the updated script appears to generate a valid .tar.gz with the source, docs, and binaries 03:40:25 thats it 03:40:29 good 03:40:31 From 1.7M to 300K 03:40:35 :) 03:40:50 good 03:41:01 a lot of that is the documentation 03:41:12 the pdf is >200k in size currently 03:41:39 * amca nods 03:42:00 Can I make a recommendation with the handbook? 03:42:05 sure 03:42:24 803/bin/rf-generic 03:42:25 803/bin/rf-linux 03:42:25 803/bin/rf-windows.exe 03:42:25 :D 03:42:42 I think it would help if you added a key for the stack comments 03:42:56 I began working on one 03:43:09 Experienced Forth people will understand about # and n etc, but inexperienced ppl like me get confused. :) 03:43:15 Cool 03:43:19 page 4 03:43:25 looks 03:43:27 still early, but it will improve 03:44:52 ooh. This is totally different from the handbook.pdf 03:45:05 yeah 03:45:06 It looks more professional in style :) 03:45:11 thanks 03:45:27 * crc wants to be sure that 8.3 has solid, detailed documentation 03:45:31 Only prob I see with it is that in gv the text isnt anti-aliased 03:46:12 At least you can read it in gv, as opposed to handbook.pdf :) 03:47:05 Ah. It renders correctly in xpdf 03:47:16 (anti aliased I mean) 03:47:38 Oooh! Asm listings too! :) 03:47:44 * amca gets a little too excited 03:48:22 yeah 03:48:30 lots of new stuff compared to the old handbook 03:48:45 sweet :) 03:48:51 * amca dances a happy dance 03:50:21 I see you have added .forth extensions too. Good idea 03:51:23 * amca is very impressed. 03:53:49 thanks 03:55:39 A question about implementation of consol.forth. Why is spaces parsing instead of getting n off of the stack? 03:55:46 nm 03:55:50 ? 03:55:50 I read it wrong 03:55:53 ahh 03:55:54 ok 03:56:20 I think it would be better if it was written "spaces ( n -- ) " 03:56:35 One gets very used to seeing the ()'s around stack expressions 03:56:54 I can change that 03:57:07 actually, I probably should, just to avoid confusion 03:57:29 No! You can't! It is set in stone now! It will haunt you for your mortal life! ;) 03:57:40 * crc is not mortal 03:57:55 No! You can't! It is set in stone now! It will haunt you for your *immortal* life! :P 03:57:57 * crc has to go off to work now... another 11 or 12 hour day awaits me 03:58:00 heh 03:58:11 good luck! 03:58:15 thanks 03:58:16 ttyl 03:58:20 thanks for the CLI thing 03:58:23 np 03:58:25 ttfn 04:12:02 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:25:42 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool73-9.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 05:02:48 --- quit: aum () 05:10:04 --- join: swalters_ (n=swalters@6532183hfc82.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 05:10:04 --- quit: swalters (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:11:56 --- quit: _james (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:12:41 --- join: _james (i=jcp@adara.cs.pdx.edu) joined #forth 05:12:48 --- quit: amca ("d34d") 05:58:23 --- quit: _james (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:59:12 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 06:01:43 --- join: _james (i=jcp@adara.cs.pdx.edu) joined #forth 06:02:44 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 06:03:26 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 06:03:54 --- quit: Ray_work2 ("Stupid NetSplit") 06:04:02 --- join: Ray_work (n=vircuser@adsl-66-142-169-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 06:05:52 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool72-72.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 06:10:33 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 06:11:10 --- quit: _james (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:11:14 --- join: _james (i=jcp@adara.cs.pdx.edu) joined #forth 06:47:29 Goodmorning, World! 06:47:37 lo, ray 06:48:03 Hope you are well? 06:48:46 Sorta' - bad day/night, but today I seem to making progress with the code. 06:49:37 Great about the code, sorry to hear of you bad day/night. 06:50:38 yeah.. family issues/stomach-flu-ish yesterday: no biggy.. I need to just learn to let all the sibs flow off me like water off a duck. 06:50:58 But, yeah: the code is actually looking like it progress. 06:51:12 MIGHT progress 06:51:54 excellent. 06:52:50 I was, apparently, too cheap/sensitive to "waste" and not even thinking of (my usual) filters [over filters...] 06:53:54 I can't see a possible - realworld - situation where my bit of waste is of any significance. 06:54:34 Granting that somwhere, someone, somehow: is going to scream and need to "pack" shit tighter. 07:01:07 hehe 07:01:25 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 07:01:30 well, for ucpu and controllers, yeah: let them tinker 07:01:44 hi tathi 07:01:50 Hi 07:02:01 hello tathi, hope the world is treating you well. 07:02:28 Yah, pretty well. 07:09:45 * PoppaVic sighs 07:10:24 Sometimes, I think maybe forthish-input - and the idea of primitives - is just world-shattering 07:53:58 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:53:59 --- join: virl (n=hmpf@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 07:56:35 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-20-4.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:56:36 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:58:48 howdy 07:59:40 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 08:29:29 --- join: asymptote (n=weldon@cipher.asymptote.org) joined #forth 09:12:27 --- quit: asymptote ("Leaving") 09:18:03 --- quit: geoffb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:19:38 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 10:45:35 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:13:05 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:37:23 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-142.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 13:37:51 * amca is away: shower 14:10:27 * amca is back (gone 00:32:36) 14:10:31 Morning 14:17:50 and how are the kangaroos? 14:18:41 Nibbling at my toes ;) 14:18:47 How are you? 14:25:07 fine, building xell together. 14:25:20 xell? 14:25:23 writing into my blog, hmm 14:25:32 xell.forthworks.com 14:25:44 * amca looks 14:26:20 my try to build a forthish vm, with some interesting concepts(hopefully) 14:26:36 --- join: asymptote (n=weldon@220.muma.nsvl.chcgil24.dsl.att.net) joined #forth 14:26:44 What are the interesting concepts? 14:28:25 Sorry - must be off 14:28:50 Catch you later 14:29:46 --- quit: amca ("d34d") 14:40:37 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 15:08:38 --- quit: asymptote ("Leaving") 15:10:03 --- join: crc (n=crc@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #forth 15:10:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:42:58 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-3-124.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 15:43:29 * amca is away: housework 16:15:59 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 16:35:25 Are there any Mops users here? 16:44:03 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-135-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 16:44:33 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 16:44:35 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 17:26:18 --- nick: swalters_ -> swalters 17:33:07 --- quit: warpzero (Excess Flood) 17:33:09 --- join: warpzero (n=warpzero@wza.us) joined #forth 18:40:26 --- join: amca_ (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-130.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 18:41:22 --- quit: amca_ (Client Quit) 18:43:40 --- join: amca_ (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-130.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 18:44:45 --- quit: amca (Nick collision from services.) 18:45:21 --- nick: amca_ -> amca 19:38:54 * amca is away: reading 19:41:01 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 20:09:15 * amca is away: sleep 21:13:40 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 21:13:43 --- join: skylan (n=sjh@dialup-216-211-4-215.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 22:33:26 --- quit: swalters (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:48:25 --- join: amca_ (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-2.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 22:49:32 --- quit: amca (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.12.05