00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.11.16 00:00:49 Even console version? 00:03:17 I find Gforth to be an excellent console Forth for both platforms. 00:05:26 Neal, what is registered Quartus Forth represent? Big BOX with books, diskette or just a URL? :) 00:06:19 It's a .zip. The documentation is in PDF format -- no box. It's not large enough to require shipping via CD-ROM. 00:06:47 Ok :) 00:07:16 I have thought about producing a printed manual. 00:08:10 On the other hand, the electronic manual never gets lost during shipping! :) 00:09:05 Is it depending on HotSync user/name? 00:09:44 The registered version will only create stand-alone apps for the specific HotSync name, yes. 00:11:26 Those apps, once created, can run anywhere, though. 00:11:49 I was afraid it's not possible :) 00:12:12 Not possible? 00:12:42 Not possible to run prc on another palms :) 00:13:24 Ah. In fact it's possible -- if you write using only Palm OS 1.0 API calls, your app will run even on an original Pilot from 1997. 00:14:32 Don't you know how frequently RegSoft check e-mails? 00:21:44 homeness, it's 3:27AM where they are, and where I am too, so I wouldn't expect anything for 5 or 6 hours. 00:23:14 In fact I myself must sleep! :) Glad to meet you. 00:23:44 Good night :) 00:26:55 Good night! 00:48:50 --- quit: homeness ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00:52:17 --- join: homeness (n=Miranda@savant.kz) joined #forth 01:56:00 --- join: saon (i=1000@unaffiliated/saon) joined #forth 02:21:21 --- quit: aum () 03:57:43 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 04:15:42 --- quit: homeness (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:17:31 --- quit: aum () 04:56:12 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-12.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 04:57:55 Gday 05:06:30 What does "direct threaded code" mean? 05:24:41 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 05:27:30 hello nanstm 05:31:45 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-2pool238-54.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 05:32:06 G'day 05:32:49 Gday 05:33:51 Any excitement yet? 05:34:11 Just a bit of pain from my operation wound. 05:34:27 Ouchies.. 05:34:36 Australia won in Soccer and are now in World Cup! :D 05:35:18 Umm, not interested ;-/ 05:36:14 :P 05:37:20 Im reading up about what directly threaded code is 05:37:26 you? 05:37:26 ahh 05:37:59 oh, beating on the guess.c program.. THinking over a shift into INI-style datafile-input, rather than current form. 05:39:22 could you please paste the guess.c program? 05:39:30 sure. 05:40:05 http://rafb.net/paste/results/ST3qHE66.html 05:40:17 thanks 05:40:19 http://rafb.net/paste/results/uXtG3t72.html 05:40:47 http://rafb.net/paste/results/QMwGWx95.html 05:41:03 why two? guess.h and guess.c? 05:41:24 THe form I'm thinking of switching into follows. Yeah, h, c and dat 05:41:35 http://rafb.net/paste/results/azxnrD61.html 05:42:45 using the .ini format *would** be sinsible 05:42:56 (sensible) 05:43:08 yeah, that's what I'm guessing as well... But, it'll be a major change. 05:43:27 The key-naming scheme is painful, to me. 05:43:45 wuss :P 05:44:08 well, I meant in terms of "do I dare?" and "how much code can I reuse?" 05:45:04 here's two more rafb's: example key/data index, and the actual text datafile... 05:45:32 http://rafb.net/paste/results/xPE1c948.html 05:45:56 http://rafb.net/paste/results/QNwDDT65.html 05:51:56 ndbm database? 05:52:10 yeah, ndbm.h is considered Posix 05:52:27 all it is is a definitive wrapper around dbopen 05:56:54 So, the bottomline would be that other C programs could use the index-file, and the database proper is just a formatted textfile - which anything can read. 06:00:50 I still wish I could see a sensible way to utilize the \\\n line-continuation char-pair *sigh* 06:01:48 wtf? 06:02:25 the '\'preceeding newline in C/H files that means "more to follow" - used by script-lang, too 06:03:09 Ah. newline escape you mean 06:03:19 It would definitely necessitate rewriting the aline() function. 06:03:48 Yeah, you can call it that 06:05:30 hmph.. But, you feel the INI-style is easier to follow? 06:05:51 so "guess" it a progran to guess the hardware and software platform by running tests? 06:06:19 Well if it is not heirachial info, ini. If Hierachiel, xml. 06:06:35 right. It begins by ascertaining it's own form, loads up a path-file, and then runs thru the tests you specify. 06:07:24 The only "heirarchy" here is just in organizing sections for naming - the diff between the guess.dat and guess2.dat is mostly just visual. 06:07:40 with ini, I's include both "key = value" and "key: value" styles 06:08:02 the latter seems silly. 06:08:07 well if it is to be human readable, then visual difference is important 06:08:49 latter as in "key: value"? 06:08:51 ok, well.. Pick a line and show me where/who/why I'd bother with two forms. 06:09:01 yeah, that form seems silly. 06:10:41 Well you would only bother with one clean form, and keep it consistant 06:11:06 yep, and you want to make it understandable to programmers/admin. 06:11:48 I often find that "too many options" leads folks to screw up too easily 06:13:07 IMO one needs to provide two levels of sophistication. A high level simple control for n00bs, and a detailed, advanced level for g33ks 06:13:31 there are neither, it's a fairly simple-minded tool. 06:14:13 no. They are both the one and the same at the same time. :P 06:14:13 ;) 06:14:17 brb.. Lemme' run the trash out (and hope it isn't blown away) 06:15:12 k 06:18:39 whew.. THAT is cold AND windy 06:19:04 hehe. oops 06:19:22 Well, if it interests you... Feel free to reorganize the data-file uploads into a form you feel is acceptable. 06:19:53 I tend to find I need the example first, then write code to play ;-) 06:20:26 ah :) 06:21:00 So what is guess gonna be part of? 06:21:16 Hmm.. I was just thinking of mmap, but.. Shit. I already store start/end points.. I can as easily scan thru for the stupid continue-char 06:21:42 guess is gonna' end up being used to install the Metabuilder shit, and prolly form a few components when it gets there. 06:22:30 Once you ascertain sufficient data, you can generate a headerfile which the build may then use. 06:23:10 THe datafile and the key/index file are merely useful tools which can be considered "intermediate datafiles" 06:23:28 So mainly for the Metabuilder, and also as a genersal utility? 06:23:55 righto. At this point it is already useful in ways similar to autoshit. 06:24:16 or rather, ./configure & friends 06:26:29 Have I told you about my new alculator? 06:26:51 (calc) 06:26:59 I got it a onth or so ago 06:27:01 nope 06:28:12 Ive wanted a simple, portable system I could have to code at assembly level with, so I bought a TI-84+ programmable graphing calc. 06:28:23 It runs on a z80 06:28:34 "runs on"? 06:29:08 It has a z80 for a cpu. The calc isnt epoxied to a chip. ;) 06:29:13 ahh 06:29:27 you mean the TI uses a Z80 06:29:42 same diff 06:29:56 actually, the clarity of the latter is better ;-) 06:30:35 Well "It has a z80 for a cpu" is actually clearer, as it could be using a z80 as an auxillary chip. :P 06:30:54 ok, even better 06:31:06 :D 06:31:10 Anyway, 06:31:52 hmm.. the ini is organized more logically, but damn.. 06:31:59 Im learning how to code asm on it presently, and I plan to code a False interpreter/compiler and then a Forth interpreter for it. 06:32:19 plenty of z80 forths 06:32:25 what is so "damn" about the ini? 06:32:34 there are a few 06:32:39 I will use them for inspiration 06:32:45 Most require C/PM though 06:32:47 I'm trying to ascertain of I can do the same things I was doing before. 06:33:31 ..For example, I added a COMMENT command to ERRNO & friends.. THis allowed me to embed unkeyed comments into the text database. 06:34:06 switching to INI would obviate this. 06:37:38 hmm.. I just thought of another, seriously irritating, issue. 06:38:10 There is a distinct possibility that some idiot will repeat a test somewhere. 06:38:22 oh? 06:38:28 ah :) 06:38:47 yeah.. the textfile ;-/ 06:39:22 Of course, all that means is that the prior data is just not visible via the index. 06:39:36 huh? 06:40:10 Index=[key+data] -----> textdatabase[all info per test] 06:40:52 or, I have to try a lookup first, and ignore on prior entry. 06:41:36 Holy! Have you seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashforth ? 06:42:29 now... Look at guess2.dat, and see lines 10 & 12... Under that potential naming-scheme, collisions become really likely. 06:43:42 humhph... damn. 06:43:44 Ive closed those windows, as Im gonna have to look at them later, when my brain isnt distracted by pain - I can only think on a shallow level right now, sorry. 06:43:58 s'ok. 06:44:49 * amca nods 06:46:24 What IRC command do you use to find out the channels a person is in? 06:47:21 no idea 06:47:38 doh 06:47:49 Apparently, I can't complacently allow for default naming as I was doing... Shit. 06:50:57 --- join: Ray_work2 (n=vircuser@adsl-66-142-171-177.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 06:51:13 hi ray 06:52:00 Hi ray 06:59:51 http://rafb.net/paste/results/gYgp7g94.html 07:00:04 amca - see above, I think those defualts are needed. 07:00:15 * amca looks 07:00:40 hehe. Just saw ##c :P 07:00:49 I screwed up / 07:00:56 I hate when that happens 07:01:20 * amca nods 07:01:26 At least we werent cybering :P 07:01:45 As you can see... If the user doesn't bother to define a symbol, then we really have to be complete. 07:02:28 erm...it doesnt look like standard .ini format to me 07:02:59 heh.. "standard"??? Please. Although, the COMMENT() thing is gonna' piss me off. 07:03:13 What do you mean by "please"? 07:03:29 There is a standard. 07:03:47 [SectionName] key = value 07:03:53 there is really no "standard". OH? Where? I'm not even sure I LIKE the idea. 07:04:10 heard of an OS called Windows? 07:04:14 yes, except in our case - the 'value' is shit we need to run. 07:04:18 That is where .ini files first appeared 07:04:36 Yep, and I recall the good-ol' text form fairly fondly. 07:04:56 Can I ask why you arent using it? 07:05:36 --- quit: Ray_work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:05:53 because I only recently even considered it. Look at the original datafile: I have OP prog{,prog}; [arg{,arg}] 07:06:35 Let me give an example so I can see if I am reading that last version correctly 07:06:37 I'm still not sure if I WANT to switch into an INI form, let alone what I'd have to torture. 07:07:08 Feel free. 07:09:13 http://rafb.net/paste/results/zD73je74.html 07:09:22 loading 07:09:52 ok, that lookseven worse. 07:10:08 the stuff {....} is the alternative names 07:10:19 there will always be an entry for each 07:10:42 yer looking at program-lists or arglists - or both. 07:11:11 So, the default naming has little choice except to use the full mess to name each attempt 07:11:12 Can you give an xml example then please? You seem to be saying that it isnt a flat key/value structure. 07:11:58 it is NOT flat key/value. OP ; - each and every one is tested. 07:12:29 there can be 1 or N programs, and 0..N args 07:12:34 ..per line, 07:12:49 then it would be my personal opinion that it should be in xml structure. 07:12:58 xml can blow me. 07:13:11 * amca rolls eyes 07:13:13 Why? 07:13:23 because I despise it, for one thing. 07:13:39 why? 07:13:50 using the current - non-INI - form, I can write compactly yet well and concisely. 07:13:59 And ugly 07:14:20 and not very self documenting 07:14:23 maybe, but I doubt there is a better solution w/o being far more verbose than the data 07:15:14 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 07:15:38 Why does it matter if it is verbose? 07:15:39 are you trying to tell me that guess.dat is "difficult" to read? I won't believe it.. You'd have to be an ignoranus to have problems. 07:15:52 You can pick xml tags that are not excessively verbose 07:16:22 gues.dat is difficult to read because it is not well designed, nbot because I am stupid 07:16:48 XML is not even remotely a world-saver. And, the non-INI file can't be much more simple. 07:17:04 Im not saying xml is a world saver 07:17:31 but is is a standard that many ppl can read and is a lot more intuitive than your personal format 07:17:43 uh-huh. Sure. 07:17:58 I spent too many years in /etc and such to be convinced. 07:18:56 formats I have seen in /etc are better than that one. 07:19:29 well, you are free to hack guess.dat to show me, and guess.[ch] to prove it. 07:22:58 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 07:24:20 whats yer email, amca ? 07:25:24 a@mca.id.au 07:25:35 Hacking up some alternative samples now 07:26:34 incoming... 07:26:43 ...splash 07:27:29 The tarball has the sources, the test-script, a results-packager, etc. 07:28:00 ok 07:28:38 As of this time, there is absolutely no external lib requirements - and I'm planning to keep it that way. 07:30:13 Why? 07:30:41 Simple: I don't want the package to require externals that may not be around. Not at this stage. 07:31:32 Why not compile them statically then? 07:31:32 The basic intent is to NOT be the pig that autoshit and GTK and such are. 07:32:31 I won't allow myself to be bound by everyone's licenses, either. If I absolutely end up needing to require a lib, then I may bother - so far: not needed or wanted. 07:33:11 Why are they pigs? 07:33:42 That's what I often ask.. Because they assume a whole lot and expect more. 07:34:21 My basic assumptions are a lot more naked and simple. I see no reason - currently - to get stupid. 07:35:40 What if you already are? :P 07:37:04 then I'm not hurting anyone, nor as piggy as others 07:38:07 heh 07:38:57 The part that sorta' hurts - well, mostly it's expected at this time - is we are dealing 100% with "this is the host". 07:39:27 How do you mean? 07:39:35 ANd, I'd rather do it well instead of half-assing all over. 07:40:03 all the code I wrote, build and run; all the data we are collecting: it's all "for this host" 07:40:33 At this time, there is nothing in support of "this is the target". 07:40:47 As in it is only for one particular individual machine to ever use? 07:40:49 ..Which isn't really bothering me, as I am not a cross-compiler. 07:41:10 no, it runs on my powerbook and another guys slutware machine. 07:41:42 It's just not trying to generate/create a database FOR an alternative machine at this time. 07:42:13 ..I suspect that there *IS* a way to store info with the package "in support of" generic, alternate platforms. 07:42:34 ..I'm just not there yet - or perhaps, not interested at this time.' 07:43:30 I'm expecting folks would build and install these tools, and others can rely on them with a lot less effort than learning autoshit. 07:43:31 Can I ask why you use derogatory names for things you dont like? 07:43:49 because I'm old, pissed-off and crochety. 07:44:45 Why are you old, pissed off and crotchety? 07:44:47 There was never really a reason for autotools to take the path they have. But, it's there and I can suffer it for systemic issues. 07:45:30 why are you asking the same silly questions? Why is the sky blue? why? why? (are we there yet?) 07:45:39 * PoppaVic chuckles 07:46:11 Im not asking the same silly questions. And they are not silly. They are the sort of questions inteligent people use instead of assuming. :) 07:46:29 I said I was; the 'why' is silly. 07:47:15 Just carry on, dude - accept it. ;-) If you can see alternatives to what's written, I'm all for reading/listening. But, KISS is the overriding principle. 07:47:48 "Why" is not silly. 07:47:54 * PoppaVic sighs 07:49:13 Start with WHY autotools? platform info is buried? is the C-ABI unavailable at build-time? the tools may not reside where they should? the fhs is ignore? The list is endless. 07:49:36 No. It is large, but finite. 07:49:51 Meanwhile: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ibQlAT96.html 07:49:52 No, it's huge - and borders on infinite. 07:49:56 pffft 07:50:37 The first is amusing, but still more verbose 07:51:27 I can't say I despise it, but I won't use the xml-libs just to parse the silly thing. 07:51:47 Also, it's not as compact and clear-cut. 07:52:00 it simply treats the datafile as a database. 07:52:18 what about option 3? 07:52:56 Why isnt the datafile a database? 07:53:57 it's an inputfile 07:54:11 How is that different? 07:54:26 * PoppaVic sighs 07:54:36 ini files are essentially ddb's used purely for input 07:54:41 I'm trying to keep the input limited, easy and simple-minded 07:55:02 yeah, I know - I don't believe I can adopt INI for this 07:55:22 INI, no. It is too complex for that 07:55:31 the only prob with #3 is it is soooo terse, it's gonna' be a pita 07:55:46 If you had less complex input, you could avoid complex constructs 07:56:00 What about #2? 07:56:26 Why is it so terse that it is a pita? 07:56:28 can't be helped. To simplify input-lines, I'd need to - really - breakout every program and arg. WHich is really wasteful. 07:57:18 This datafile came about after perusing autofoo for hours and hours and hours.. Their goddamned 'sh' code is just a shitpile. 07:58:00 There are only like 3-4 catagories of tests (like ERRNO). and then there a billion tons of code to test simple things. 07:58:56 as-is, the datafile (and input-support) is just as simple as I can make it. Letting users or admin add very simple bits here and there. 07:59:32 * amca shakes his head 08:00:32 have you ever even DEALT with autotools/autoshit? Dude, they make my stuff look simple; and they even make yer xml look sensible. 08:01:14 ..of course, then it starts to break as they "upgrade" oddly and systems mismatch. 08:03:00 My main complaint about your file format would be the use of ';'. '=' or ':' would be much better. 08:03:46 yes, they have been bothering me for weeks. Alternative suggestions that look nice and clean - and can code similarly - would be appreciated. 08:04:01 I'm ALMOST tempted to switch to parens. 08:05:00 ..and I still need to add an INCLUDE directive 08:05:55 ..which would let admin have a file in ../share/ and users in home, and the package itself. 08:07:18 I look forward to solutions for those damned ';' and ',', though - they are a real bother. 08:07:27 What about errno: 08:07:27 08:07:27 gcc cc c89 c99 = "-o /dev/null -c guess.c" 08:07:27 08:07:27 stdout: 08:07:28 08:07:30 "test -e" = guess.c ./guess.c ../should_fail 08:07:37 uname = -m -r -s -v -p -X 08:07:39 oops sorry 08:07:42 hmm 08:07:48 np 08:07:56 http://rafb.net/paste/results/JmGQX012.html 08:08:15 or 08:08:53 yer using " and spaces rather freely. 08:09:00 "loosely" 08:09:14 No, Im using them consistantly 08:09:21 http://rafb.net/paste/results/BeKXcr85.html is better I think 08:09:30 yeah.. I'm staring - oh, loading. 08:09:45 any string with a space in it requires quoting. Technically you could quote all string 08:09:55 right 08:10:35 now.. What happens if the user wants to define a symbol for a result, instead of the result (like a define or envvar)? 08:10:48 Myself I think "{ -m -r -s -v -p -X }" is easier to read than "-m,-r,-s,-v,-p,-X" 08:10:59 I would agree, too 08:11:26 can you gove a brief example in your syntax how you would do it? 08:11:44 hmm 08:12:07 SOMEBASE= "test -e": { guess.c ./guess.c ../should_fail } 08:12:47 yielding SOMBASE.0; SOMEBASE.1; SOMBASE.2 08:12:58 or "test -e": { guess.c ./guess.c ../should_fail } => SOMEBASE ? 08:13:00 or - something similar. It's a challenge, for sure 08:13:20 or 08:13:29 well, somebase would be under STDOUT 08:14:03 lookup("STDOUT.SOMEBASE"); 08:14:13 hmm... associative arrays? 08:15:10 For sure we want simple-minded extensibility. THe corollary, (I think), is we'd also like simple-minded lookup. 08:15:15 well if you have a result as well, you need to look more at hierachial structure moreso than flat IMO 08:15:26 right. 08:15:49 If you look into guess.out, you begin to see how much is returned - from where and why. 08:16:25 I think yer unto something, though\ 08:16:44 http://rafb.net/paste/results/TGNmif12.html 08:16:51 It should be interesting, once yer more awake and less in pain. 08:17:09 well Im in less pain now, but more sleepy :P 08:17:23 intriguing 08:17:47 and, yes: I have no issue with having simple-minded c-like forms. 08:17:54 which do you prefer: the XML (data) or the (tag { data }) format? 08:18:02 I just get worried about the verbosity. 08:18:17 Myself I prefer the second - you only have to type it once 08:18:19 an assignment - instead of result{} 08:18:25 ..that would be pretty 08:18:40 Well once it is too verbose, you design a tool to explore and create and fiddle with the datafile indirectly 08:19:05 right. But, recall: admin and users/programmers are going to write these datafiles. 08:19:16 * amca nods 08:19:33 ..Some may be C programmers, some not - and most admin are... well, weird. 08:19:34 but they could also write them with a gui tool 08:20:09 sure - how they generate them is not my main issue; but insuring a simple echo>> or ed or sed or joe or whatever is. 08:20:09 Simple input can be hand coded, complex handled by computer, as it is meant to be. :) 08:20:44 Like it or not, xml is the lingua franca datafile format 08:20:44 we just need to embrace KISS for the "datafile" and input/output. 08:21:10 xml can be pretty KISS if used judiciously - just verbose 08:21:30 as a programmer, XML makes me ill; as my own admin, I HATE reading/editing such files. 08:21:55 I'm much easier with progA generating xml for progB to import. 08:23:02 I'd have no issues at ALL with a prog that took the key/data and database, and generated XML for 08:23:30 but, I don't want to get us involved there at this time; particularly in requirements. 08:24:36 be advised, parsing streams as you suggest is nontrivial. 08:26:38 Or possibly in XML: 08:26:43 http://rafb.net/paste/results/9pFNMU90.html 08:29:47 anything that has a clean structure and isnt flat key/value I would regard as non-trivial, but that is cause I dont have enough coding practice. 08:30:13 Do you know of the Python XML parser? 08:31:42 back - sorry, had to change a filter 08:31:50 thats ok 08:32:22 latest rafb is really, really verbose. 08:32:46 hence y preference for the key { data } syntax 08:32:58 y = my 08:33:10 yeah, and the last few were interesting 09:16:27 --- quit: amca (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:19:15 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 09:31:46 --- join: PoppaVic_ (n=pete@0-2pool198-25.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 09:31:59 --- quit: PoppaVic (Nick collision from services.) 09:32:02 --- nick: PoppaVic_ -> PoppaVic 09:50:09 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 09:53:50 --- join: Amanita_Virosa (n=jenni@adsl-69-154-189-66.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 10:11:15 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 10:14:53 --- quit: aum (Client Quit) 10:32:30 --- quit: Amanita_Virosa ("Gone with the wind.") 10:37:10 --- join: virl (n=hmpf@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 12:28:03 --- join: snoopy_17 (n=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-102-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 12:28:49 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 12:29:25 --- nick: snoopy_17 -> Snoopy42 15:16:19 --- nick: nanstm -> tiff 15:20:23 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-3-7.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 15:30:56 Gday 15:31:37 What is the proper term when referring to "function lookup tables"? 15:42:40 --- nick: tiff -> Raystm2 15:43:50 Hi 15:44:00 Hi amca :) 15:44:07 How are you today? 15:44:51 Not too bad 15:44:55 You? 15:45:17 Busy, frustrating day at work, but what else is new? 15:46:15 hehe :) 15:48:53 What are you gonna be up to tonight? 15:52:52 Don't have any plans, yet. Started to read about FACTOR yesterday. 15:53:02 Prob'ly more of the same tonight, 15:53:09 What about you? 15:54:10 Factor...Sorry my mind is skipping. 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