00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.11.01 00:12:35 --- join: virl (n=hmpf@62.178.85.149) joined #forth 02:56:37 --- quit: aum () 04:13:01 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool46-33.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 04:13:23 lo 04:27:26 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 06:25:28 --- join: osh (i=74081307@Orleans-ppp42582.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 06:26:01 wow the 'speak English' rule in the topic is quite harsh 06:26:23 Thou must speak English... unlike the great majority of people on the planet ;-) 06:31:06 life sucks. 06:31:54 especially in Bushistan, eh? ;-) 06:36:40 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 06:46:03 --- part: osh left #forth 07:11:56 --- join: sproingie (i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 07:16:11 heh. I think futhin added the "speak English" bit because people were spending a lot of time discussing and comparing the various languages they speak. 07:16:25 I don't remember anyone taking it very seriously. :) 07:16:34 worse. They drop in and spew 07:16:56 aolish, paki, french - whatever 07:17:51 We never got a lot of that. 07:18:24 yeah, it's not really bad here 07:19:14 although aol/rugratish is common in ##C, and even non-english that might even be proper. 07:19:53 IIRC there were a couple of months where the (then) regulars who spoke other languages were using them, comparing words with the same meaning in different languages, etc., etc. 07:20:10 --- join: Buschhardt (n=chatzill@p54B43FFE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 07:20:12 And futhin got somewhat annoyed about it 07:20:40 he was on a jag of "we should write great things in Forth!" at the time :) 07:21:47 oh. Hell, that doesn't even apply ala' Forth 07:21:57 Hallo, I've a short question: It's possible to make a exe-File on a windows-system (compiler and code included)? 07:22:08 otoh, yeah: if they can't express a term/word in english - they are hurting 07:25:30 --- quit: Buschhardt ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") 07:27:26 PoppaVic: no, no, just for fun. 07:28:37 "fun" - wait... I remember "fun"... Lemme' try to remember... 07:29:10 nope.. I'm screwed.. *sigh* Damn. 07:30:30 btw, tathi - I've cleaned up my tarball for the autoshit-endrun code. Looks like it may be working ok... I just had a guy try it on slackware and got pretty much what I'd expected. 07:31:56 Cool. 07:33:15 Yeah, the only hurdle was.. His slackware sys had no PATH entry for sbin - once he added that, it nearly matched my own outputs 07:34:04 ..so, I am trying to now gather data on all *bin/ dir on my box - for a potential pre-check before using the users PATH (or postcheck) 07:34:46 Yup. I gather that's a lot of why autoconf is ugly -- there are a million little things that you have to check. 07:35:05 yeah, but most of it is not that insane 07:35:08 Although I'm sure using m4 doesn't help. 07:35:57 I'll shoot you the tarball shortly. It doesn't do anything except generate some test programs and gather data, but it WILL be a whole lot handier. 07:36:42 ..and (so far) I've seen absolutely no reason to dick with root. THAT is an install/uninstall issue which sudo can handle well 07:37:24 Yeah. I never liked sh+m4/perl plus all the other insanities 07:55:17 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 07:58:47 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool47-139.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 08:07:48 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 08:58:47 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 09:28:44 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:40:34 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 09:46:49 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 09:54:41 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 11:42:01 --- part: slava left #forth 11:48:49 --- join: OrngeTide (i=orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 12:31:57 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 12:36:45 --- quit: aum () 13:03:37 --- join: gdavid (n=david@ip24-250-57-97.ri.ri.cox.net) joined #forth 13:13:57 Can anyone recommend a simple application written in forth that I can study as an example of good techniques? 13:15:33 not off the top of my head... 13:16:38 what forth are you using? 13:17:23 gforth. 13:18:04 how about any open source apps written in forth? 13:22:24 hmm...looks like there's an implementation of sokoban with gforth 13:26:31 Thanks, I look at it. 13:36:21 there aren't really much out there 13:45:36 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:47:57 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 14:06:03 --- nick: Raystm2 -> tiff 14:43:18 --- quit: saon ("Lost terminal") 14:52:22 --- join: saon (i=1000@user-1120qm9.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 15:31:21 people spend a lot of time hacking in forth 15:31:37 but there are few apps written in forth that other people use 15:31:58 seems like there's more forth systems than apps 15:38:22 hi everyone 15:56:01 not that I've looked... 15:56:15 I've never had much interest in forth apps written by other people 16:30:36 As regards Quartus Forth, there are far many more Quartus Forth apps than 16:30:42 Quartus Forth systems. :) 16:47:57 Once upon a time I was proud of the fact that there was nothing on my machine that I had not written myself. 16:48:11 That was long ago. 16:49:44 Now I would like to work a marine navigation program that could use the free electronic charts given away by most governments. 16:50:53 This would be far to big to insist that I write everything myself. Is there no community of fort programers? 17:07:47 Quartus: are there a decent number of open source ones? 17:08:47 gdavid: there are communities. of which this is one 17:09:24 --- join: Aldo (n=Aldo@200.217.122.249) joined #forth 17:17:50 Jason, sorry, was away. Yes, there are. 17:20:18 --- quit: OrngeTide ("adios") 17:21:05 Yah, I should have said, Quartus might be your best bet for pointing out example code. :) 17:33:32 Thanks folks, I will check out the Quartus web site files section also. 17:43:41 --- quit: gdavid ("Leaving") 17:45:14 --- join: gdavid (n=david@ip24-250-57-97.ri.ri.cox.net) joined #forth 18:21:42 * sproingie waves 18:43:23 --- part: gdavid left #forth 18:50:39 What's new? 18:59:55 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 19:01:51 --- join: swalters (n=swalters@6532183hfc82.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:07:19 --- join: snoopy_17 (i=snoopy_1@84.58.138.228) joined #forth 20:08:45 --- quit: crc () 20:15:46 --- quit: snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20:16:10 --- nick: snoopy_17 -> Snoopy42 20:29:17 Quartus: the deed is finaly done. 20:29:29 --- nick: tiff -> Raystm2 20:29:54 shhhh! 20:30:00 I wasn't here. 20:32:15 --- join: lop (n=lop@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 20:39:28 loopy tuesday 20:43:34 having a fun day? 20:57:59 Hey. 21:58:07 --- quit: Aldo (Remote closed the connection) 22:08:53 --- join: OrngeTide (i=orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 22:09:47 http://www.star.net/people/~mvs/ .. an 8088 compatible computer with the same pinouts as an 8051. might make a nice forth machine:) 22:13:12 hrm. 8K flash, 512b ram. enough for forth but not much else 22:45:55 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:00:36 --- quit: sproingie (Remote closed the connection) 23:12:36 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 23:37:10 --- quit: aum () 23:52:29 --- quit: swalters (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:52:45 --- join: swalters (n=swalters@6532183hfc82.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.11.01