00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.10.25 00:34:43 --- join: Ray_work2 (n=vircuser@adsl-65-68-201-18.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:35:23 --- quit: Ray_work (Connection reset by peer) 00:46:01 --- join: Raystm2_ (n=Raystm2@adsl-70-248-103-17.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:46:02 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:49:31 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:57:20 --- join: Ray_work (n=vircuser@adsl-65-68-201-18.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:57:58 --- quit: Ray_work2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:27:50 --- quit: virsys ("bah") 01:28:14 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-65-40-180-181.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) joined #forth 03:35:43 --- quit: aum () 04:21:33 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:45:43 --- join: snoopy_17 (i=snoopy_1@84.58.176.249) joined #forth 04:54:25 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 04:54:28 --- nick: snoopy_17 -> Snoopy42 05:20:34 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@Toronto-HSE-ppp3708444.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 05:38:24 --- quit: I440r () 06:03:23 --- quit: madwork ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 06:03:45 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 06:08:45 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool65-17.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 06:09:11 G'day 06:12:23 no, I think it's Tuesday. poke-poke :) 06:14:54 Howdy, ray 06:15:59 Good morning, PoppaVic. I'm ready for another great day! 06:16:29 Ah. Short-day for me, I'll type for a few hours - then spend the rest of the day upstairs "choring". 06:17:27 I have fallen behind chores this week, with the trip to Waco and all. 06:17:56 yeah, we've gotta' reorganize umpty-cans and cupboards. 06:18:01 --- join: ken (n=ken@adsl-25-23.swiftdsl.com.au) joined #forth 06:19:05 I have to fix a hot water pipe, hang3 doors, and start thinking about how to tack ruined floors and piers and beams. 06:19:20 tackle even 06:19:30 ouch, yeah.. SOunds like a significant list 06:19:30 --- part: ken left #forth 06:20:01 it is, I wanna replace ever pipe in the house. Should run about 1100usd but i'm behind that by half. 06:20:28 ouchies - ALL the plumbing?? That's a bitch 06:21:24 ya, and i'm too old to get under the house anymore, ( /me lazy, ) so its warm BIG pans on the stove for baths while we save money to get pros in. 06:21:55 youch 06:22:32 Well, the upside is: PVC pipes are fast to install and a breeze to work with. 06:29:36 this is very true 06:29:55 and that's what we'll use. 06:30:22 Just avoid that funky flexi-pvcthey use on Mobile/motor-homes. 06:30:35 But, the good news is the house is payed off, with the exception of a loan that I got to fix up the outside. 06:30:53 I may get a loan or consolidate this one to do the pipes. 06:30:58 Yeah.. I've pretty well decided that I'll never own another home.. 06:31:03 ack will avoid. 06:31:11 me neither. 06:31:31 I've seen too much shit about all the things you "can't do", and I'd rather not play the silly game anymore 06:31:37 after we fix-up and sell this one, it's appartment or townhouse living for me. 06:31:44 ya. 06:32:18 yah, I hate being that closely-packed; but, I hate state and federal and the rest running (ruining) my life. 07:10:02 --- quit: Quartus (Remote closed the connection) 07:24:53 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 07:38:46 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 07:53:43 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 07:57:54 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 08:01:42 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@ansuz.pair.com) joined #forth 08:06:33 --- join: sproingie (i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 08:27:00 --- join: asymptote (n=weldon@cipher.asymptote.org) joined #forth 09:02:43 --- quit: asymptote ("Leaving") 09:14:40 --- join: virl (n=hmpf@62.178.85.149) joined #forth 09:34:35 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:07:35 --- quit: OrngeTide ("gotta go") 10:17:16 --- quit: PoppaVic (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10:32:06 --- quit: tathi ("hrm...") 10:39:40 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 10:41:45 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 10:42:30 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 11:25:51 --- join: bbls (n=bbls@81.180.7.4) joined #forth 11:26:07 --- part: bbls left #forth 13:26:05 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool66-198.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 13:26:34 argh 13:50:08 Out of curiosity, anyone know why we try to lookup a 'word' before we create a number? 13:51:05 Seems like # conversion is prolly faster than looking thru order/vocs 13:53:40 no one, eh? 13:58:37 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 14:00:44 bah 14:02:18 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 14:03:47 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 14:14:39 Bah. Searching a properly hashed wordlist shouldn't be too much slower than converting to a number. 14:14:55 Oops, he left already. 14:15:36 Besides, source generally has more words than numbers. I bet that's a factor as well. 14:17:42 --- quit: Ray_work ("Stupid NetSplit") 14:18:18 Interesting though though...I should try testing it one of these days. 15:05:01 hi everyone 15:16:29 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@Toronto-HSE-ppp3708444.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 15:19:25 hi crc 15:21:16 Hey, I was reading your post on forthworks about comment spam (from the beginning of the month) 15:21:27 Was that before you had the "image security code" thing? 15:21:42 or can spambots manage get past even that these days? 15:21:58 "manage to" even 15:25:24 yes, that was before the image security setup 15:25:35 so far no spam since I added the image layer 15:26:06 thought so 15:26:22 sorry to hear you're having to cut back on rf development, BTW. 15:27:01 Do you have plans for all the extra time that will give you? :) 15:27:07 rest :) 15:27:38 --- join: skylan_ (n=sjh@dialup-216-211-4-58.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 15:41:36 --- quit: skylan (Connection timed out) 16:30:37 --- join: KptnKrill (n=kyle@pool-70-22-161-93.bos.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 17:01:03 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:03:40 Hi guys. 17:03:47 --- nick: Raystm2_ -> Raystm2 17:04:35 goodnight 17:51:33 --- nick: skylan_ -> skylan 19:11:33 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 19:12:46 I think the reason that forth searching the dictionary before trying number conversion is so you can define words like A or DEAD. 19:12:53 and they still work even if you're in hex 19:14:35 Right. 19:15:15 PoppaVic asked about this 6 hours ago 19:15:18 I've been out all day 19:16:51 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 19:20:01 --- join: asymptote (n=weldon@c208-37-7-247.ip.newc.com) joined #forth 19:26:17 or perhaps you'd like to define words like 00 or some such 20:03:38 whats 00 do? 20:03:47 --- quit: asymptote (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:04:49 It's the British Secret Agent prefix, Ray. 20:05:07 * Raystm2 ( snikers ) 20:06:17 : 00 0 0 at ; 20:07:29 I guess the larger point is that by resolving dictionary names first, you have the option of overriding literal values, whereas if literals were resolved first, you wouldn't have that option. 20:07:53 Worse, depending on the value of BASE, dictionary words could be obscured. 20:08:07 yes. i see that. 20:09:19 I think JasonWoof's idea for compileing via dependancy is rather clever. 20:16:17 I'm even tempted to purchase a Mac to see how he does it. 20:26:20 I've considered buying a Mac Mini -- they look neat. 20:40:30 Raystm2: it'll run in dondoze and x86 linux soon enough 20:40:42 s/don/win/ 20:41:09 quite possibly by the end of november 20:55:35 no kidding, that's great! can't wait. ( rubbing of hands briskly) 20:57:04 Quartus: /me as well. They do look neat. 20:57:36 Convenient, even. Take your desktop with you. 20:58:40 have flat panels and remote keyboards all over the place... 20:58:46 and that dang cube. 20:59:39 I Raystm2 I'm not sure it'll be much use at that time 20:59:43 but I hope to get fovium ported 21:00:45 fovium is the .... /me gets it now. fo(rth) vm 21:02:40 :) 21:03:32 at also has a very strong association in my mind with something interesting and vague to do with focal point, or focused areas 21:05:49 s/at/it/ 21:06:26 I see. 21:10:57 you are absolutely right. the association with "focus" is accidental 21:11:07 and possibly only available in my head 21:11:12 while supplies last! 21:14:16 :) 21:59:56 --- quit: sproingie (Remote closed the connection) 22:34:33 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 22:34:36 --- quit: cmeme (Remote closed the connection) 22:35:33 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 23:50:19 --- quit: Quartus (Remote closed the connection) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.10.25