00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.07.05 00:33:56 --- join: ICaMonkey_ (~chatzilla@80.122.33.114) joined #forth 00:49:59 --- quit: ICaMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:28:41 --- quit: vitaminmoo ("Leaving") 01:29:01 --- join: vitaminmoo (~vitaminmo@dsl-94-128.peak.org) joined #forth 01:41:14 I'm going to go read and wish my movie was done downloading 01:41:20 (Kingdom of Heaven) 01:41:24 bbi2h, hopefully 01:44:23 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-f778e055.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 01:48:34 --- quit: ICaMonkey_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.7/20050502]") 02:21:13 woops, wrong channel 02:21:14 Hahah 02:50:48 --- join: Topaz (~top@host81-157-97-213.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:51:52 Hi 02:53:49 iirc a dictionary header consists of a codefield and a data/argument field. I could store in the codefield a bitfield for information interchange, but I think that would slower than jumping to the apropriate code, for interpreting the argument field. 02:55:25 hi Robert, what's shaking? 03:00:18 My hard drive. 03:00:21 * Robert copying stuff. 03:00:42 Otherwise - not much. Trying to get into OpenGL a little. 03:00:45 --- quit: Topaz ("Leaving") 03:03:01 --- join: Raystm2_ (~vircuser@adsl-68-95-252-210.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 03:04:00 Hi Ray 03:06:16 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:07:01 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 03:18:31 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:28:19 --- join: hrmpf (~blueflops@gw.mastmoen.no) joined #forth 05:28:41 --- quit: hrmpf (Client Quit) 05:47:01 --- join: PoppaVic (~pete@0-1pool74-38.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 05:47:12 hi PoppaVic 05:47:30 Mornin' 05:52:57 --- nick: Raystm2_ -> nanstm 06:04:24 --- join: tkb (~tkb@63.163.164.6) joined #forth 06:11:29 haha! now I'm motivated again, I think I'll ue for my forth an ITS routine, hell why I'm sometimes such a moron. 06:12:27 ITS? 06:12:44 * PoppaVic is just happy it's finally "Spring" 06:12:45 interrupt service routine 06:12:54 ISR 06:13:12 ok, sry. 06:14:51 well, I patched the homepage, finally got a copy here of my older mess on forth and uploaded a tarball it had been missing. Now on the 2nd coffee and wondering which wall to run into first. 06:15:25 gee.. and all of 20 minutes online.. may be time for a nap ;-) 06:53:58 --- quit: PoppaVic (Remote closed the connection) 06:55:35 --- join: PoppaVic (~pete@0-1pool74-38.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 07:22:50 --- join: sproingie (foobar@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 07:23:22 lo, sproingie 07:26:08 mornin 07:26:45 I'm working hard to write a friggin' backup cdrw.. *sigh* Getting tired of waiting and the last failure 07:27:14 --- join: JasonWoof (~jason@Herkamire.student.supporter.pdpc) joined #forth 07:27:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:28:09 lo, herk 07:28:22 hi 07:28:40 man, I hope this friggin' burn works *sigh* 07:53:56 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 08:22:18 --- quit: skylan (Connection timed out) 08:29:00 --- join: PoppaVic (~pete@0-1pool66-54.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 08:46:59 --- quit: Robert ("leaving") 08:54:51 --- quit: PoppaVic (Nick collision from services.) 08:55:09 --- join: PoppaVic (~pete@0-1pool64-19.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 09:06:44 I was using Windows NT 4.0 Workstation earlier under qemu/Linux. X3 09:07:00 Here was a report 09:07:02 Windows NT Workstation, Service Pack 6 (4.0 - 1381) Uptime: Cpu : 1-Intel Pentium II, 2662MHz, 128KB (0% Load) Ram: Usage: 20/32MB (62.50%) Graphic Card : -1 Screen 1024x768 16bit 60Hz connection none detected Disk: C 0.36/2GB (18%) Disk: D 700.3/700.3MB (100%) 09:10:02 --- join: PoppaVic_ (~pete@0-2pool238-91.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 09:10:14 --- quit: PoppaVic (Nick collision from services.) 09:10:16 --- nick: PoppaVic_ -> PoppaVic 09:16:06 whee 09:16:11 i remember using NT4 09:16:11 :) 09:19:49 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-f778e055.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 09:37:01 --- quit: PoppaVic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:43:01 --- join: PoppaVic (~pete@0-1pool73-219.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 10:19:30 --- join: PoppaVic_ (~pete@0-1pool47-34.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 10:20:01 --- quit: PoppaVic (Nick collision from services.) 10:20:04 --- nick: PoppaVic_ -> PoppaVic 10:45:52 --- join: kunphuzil (~Jason@ip-69-10-102-124.cableaz.net) joined #forth 10:46:33 hi kunphuzil, our lisper ;-) 10:46:43 eww 10:47:14 hehe 10:47:33 I got working this HP-41CV calculator that uses RPN 10:47:34 it's neat 10:47:41 (from 1979( 10:47:47 s/(/) 10:47:59 well, on the second occurance of that. 10:48:10 oh lord 10:51:00 the stack is limited to four registers `high' labeled X,Y,Z,T (X is the top) i haven't decided if this is too much of an annoyance yet, but when the T register is filled and one of the higher registers opens the contents of T is copied down, i.e. the stack appears as: 4 3 2 1 then if you perform + the new stack would be 4 4 3 3. this can be useful to keep a constant in calculator though, i.e. bacterial growth, enter 1.15 (groth constant) into 10:51:23 THe stack is the stack 10:51:33 hm? 10:52:10 there is AT LEAST a datastack; there is usually a "return stack" - and their can be other stacks 10:52:33 "datastack" should really evolve into "argstack" 10:52:50 yeah 10:54:17 to me, "argstack" makes fine sense; although I have an issue with "stackframes" 10:54:32 stackframes? 10:54:57 C and caller make/call/cleanup 10:59:15 the prob with a "stackframe" is the REAL content.. There is no portable way to learn of it. 10:59:27 ..let alone access it 11:05:38 ..ok, time for cookingm chow and a nap - I can see we have major ISSUES 11:05:41 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 11:23:12 --- nick: saon|smgl -> Robert__ 11:23:31 --- nick: Robert__ -> saon|smgl 11:23:48 --- nick: kunphuzil -> Ueberfuehrer 11:24:23 --- nick: Ueberfuehrer -> kunphuzil 11:53:40 --- join: kunphuzi1 (~Jason@ip-69-10-102-124.cableaz.net) joined #forth 11:54:12 how come lispers to forth? 11:54:37 eh? 11:55:25 how did you discover the language and why do you like it? =) 11:56:07 Does that apply to us non-lispers? 11:56:47 Well, an IRC friend uses it a lot so I was interested. RPN is an interesting way to solve certain problems and.. I am not sure why else I like it, it just has a certain quality about it ;) 11:58:12 --- join: tathi (~josh@tathi.bronze.supporter.pdpc) joined #forth 11:59:49 I think I happend to join this channel somehow. 11:59:54 So I blame you. 12:05:07 --- quit: kunphuzil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:05:34 --- nick: kunphuzi1 -> kunphuzil 12:25:20 virl, i see a lot in common between lisp and forth 12:25:47 I thought you wrote factor to replace them both ;) 12:26:30 slava: Like what? 12:27:05 kunphuzil: Fanatic followers? 12:29:17 kunphuzil, both can be implemented mostly in terms of themselves 12:31:36 slava: Ever done phase-shift keying demodulation? (and/or know anything about it) 12:33:22 Robert, no sorry 12:33:39 OK. I'll try to check the intarweb closer. 12:33:48 gmfsk didn't really help... 12:55:49 My new current wallpaper :: http://cgi.2chan.net/o/src/1120481912613.jpg 12:56:17 * slava is working on his GUI toolkit 12:57:33 PayphoneEd: Heh. 12:58:12 that's a nice wallpaper 12:58:16 Heehee 12:59:28 Robert: gmfsk? 12:59:55 PayphoneEd: Is that from an online comic? 12:59:58 A decoder for various ham radio modes. 13:00:56 kunphuzil: No idea. 13:02:02 I don't remember what my wallpaper is, too many programs open to tell. 13:02:29 Thus I do not find it of much importance ;) 13:02:32 * Robert has a dark blue background. 13:02:52 Robert: The default in icewm or so? 13:02:57 wallpaper? what's that?? ;) 13:03:08 kunphuzil: Right. 13:03:14 At least I think so. 13:03:24 tathi: The background color. 13:03:51 kunphuzil, are you a lisper? 13:04:18 slava: Specificly a schemer, but yes. 13:05:30 kunphuzil, have you seen joy? 14:13:28 slava: only heard of it 14:14:21 oh, ok. i 14:14:27 'm working on a joy-like language 14:16:08 have any documentation/links? 14:16:41 --- part: tkb left #forth 14:18:07 http://www.latrobe.edu.au/philosophy/phimvt/joy.html apparently 14:18:25 and http://factor.sourceforge.net/ :) 14:26:06 --- join: Topaz (~top@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust117.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 14:26:47 Hi, Topaz 14:28:29 evenin 14:28:30 g 14:29:53 :) 15:32:42 slava: this looks interesting (if `factor' is the language you are working on) 15:32:47 yup 15:33:16 What language are you developing this in? 15:33:47 mostly factor. 15:33:58 there is a small runtime written in C, with garbage collection, memory management and a few other things. 15:34:23 erm, you are developing factor in factor? :) 15:34:35 well, yes. 15:34:43 ah, neat 15:34:44 the runtime is 7000 lines of C, the library is 21,000 lines of factor. 15:35:00 so, what did you develop the initial version of factor in? 15:35:16 i developed it in java, then i bootstrapped the native version. 15:35:27 now, the factor parser is written in factor, and is extensible 15:38:05 ah, how cool 15:51:49 --- join: crc (crc@pool-70-110-172-173.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:52:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:52:29 Hi ,crc 15:52:32 Hi Robert 16:01:32 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 16:07:21 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 16:40:23 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 17:43:11 --- join: swalters (~swalters@2416457hfc118.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 18:19:06 --- quit: swalters ("User disconnected") 19:19:00 --- quit: saon ("leaving") 19:19:09 --- quit: saon|smgl ("leaving") 19:24:16 --- join: snoopy_16 (snoopy_161@dsl-084-058-130-101.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 19:24:38 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 19:24:46 --- nick: snoopy_16 -> Snoopy42 19:26:44 --- quit: Robert ("/quit /quit /quit /quit /quit") 19:33:11 --- join: swalters (~swalters@2416457hfc118.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 19:42:45 --- join: saon (1000@c-66-177-224-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:43:04 --- join: saon_ (~saon@c-66-177-224-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:44:51 --- join: saon__ (1000@c-66-177-224-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:44:52 --- quit: saon (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:44:59 --- nick: saon__ -> saon 19:45:50 --- join: saon|smgl (~saon@c-66-177-224-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:46:00 --- quit: saon_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:22:38 can somebody tell me how to use , ? 20:32:55 nvm, got it figured out 20:40:47 --- quit: vitaminmoo ("Leaving") 20:44:32 --- join: vitaminmoo (~vitaminmo@dsl-94-128.peak.org) joined #forth 20:52:10 --- quit: kunphuzil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:21:20 --- join: skylan (~sjh@dialup-216-211-4-39.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 21:35:51 --- join: kunphuzil (~Jason@ip-69-10-102-124.cableaz.net) joined #forth 21:39:46 --- quit: sproingie ("Konversation terminated!") 22:59:01 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.07.05