00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.03.21 00:20:49 --- join: hyrax_ (~chatzilla@adsl-64-219-100-33.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:46:35 --- quit: hyrax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:51:15 --- join: Baughn (~svein@cloud.brage.info) joined #forth 00:54:29 --- nick: hyrax_ -> hyrax 01:13:15 --- join: Topaz (~top@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust219.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 02:24:48 --- quit: Baughn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:09:28 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 03:51:50 --- join: Baughn (~svein@mobster.td.org.uit.no) joined #forth 04:20:19 --- quit: Topaz ("Leaving") 04:22:47 --- quit: Baughn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:23:14 --- join: Topaz (~top@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust117.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 04:45:59 --- nick: hyrax -> hyrax|work 05:57:40 --- quit: aum () 06:00:53 --- join: segher (~segher@blueice4n1.de.ibm.com) joined #forth 08:08:54 --- join: I440r_ (~mark4@216-110-82-203.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 08:54:26 --- join: hyrax|work_ (~chatzilla@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 08:55:51 [ANN] IORCC Crossword Puzzle: http://iorcc.dyndns.org/2005/puzzles/crossword/2005.xword.png 08:55:59 would be neat if someone did a FORTH xword puzzle. 09:07:32 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp01375108pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:08:36 --- join: docl (~docl@dpcbw101045.direcpc.com) joined #forth 09:09:28 --- quit: hyrax|work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:30:22 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 09:30:53 hello 09:38:45 --- join: hyrax|work__ (~chatzilla@adsl-64-219-100-33.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 09:38:48 --- nick: hyrax|work__ -> hyrax|work 09:38:49 --- quit: snowrichard (Remote closed the connection) 09:42:28 --- join: hyrax|work__ (~chatzilla@adsl-64-219-100-33.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 09:45:54 --- join: hyrax|work___ (~chatzilla@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 09:52:41 --- quit: hyrax|work__ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09:53:33 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 09:55:09 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 09:55:53 --- quit: hyrax|work_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:57:31 --- quit: hyrax|work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:09:26 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:09:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 10:22:36 howdy Herkamire 10:29:29 hi :) 10:30:04 have you seen crc's new IF code? 10:31:02 no 10:31:33 http://forthology.com/index.php?wiki=InteractiveFictionCore 10:32:10 oh yeah, I saw that. 10:32:29 I thought you were talking about if 0if =if hehe 10:37:13 --- join: dupswapdrop (~chatzilla@c-24-118-225-27.mn.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:38:05 hmm, customized if conditions sounds neat 10:38:23 hi dupswapdrop 10:38:50 Hi there 10:46:26 --- part: dupswapdrop left #forth 11:58:44 --- quit: segher ("Leaving") 13:08:23 --- quit: Topaz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13:09:42 --- join: Topaz (~top@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust219.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 13:25:51 --- join: BACbKA (~vassilii@85-250-57-167.bb.netvision.net.il) joined #forth 13:26:07 hi 13:26:13 i440r: are you there? 13:32:51 defer odd 13:32:56 oops 13:34:54 I @#(*&$@# HATE MOZILLA FIREFOX 13:35:27 Herkamire: so do I. Its only loading HALF THE FUCKING PAGES EVERY FUCKING TIME. 13:35:32 Herkamire: and only on Windows, not Linux. 13:35:32 Herkamire: do you have a love-hate relationship? i.e., if you hate it, why use it? 13:35:52 it's the only browser that supports javascript 13:36:11 ok, so say I'm at a page, the result of a post request 13:36:19 and say I want to (*&#@$@#$@*&$# save it to a file 13:36:26 do you suppose there's any way to do that? 13:36:56 print to file 13:37:00 i think 13:37:01 :D 13:37:11 Herkamire: did you try it via "view source" and save from there (cut and paste at the worst from the src window) 13:37:40 Is there a good free software forth (running on Linux) that does tail recursion optimization? 13:38:09 defer odd : even ?dup 0= if true exit then 1- odd ; 13:38:12 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:38:21 : (odd) ?dup 0= if false exit then 1- even ; ' (odd) is odd 13:38:26 10000 even . 13:38:42 I don't want a segmentation fault there because of the rstack overflow ;-) 13:39:27 The FS we'd developed on Hobbit did it right, and it was quite a revelation for me to learn that it's not a std thing in anything but color-forth 13:39:37 BACbKA: yes, I tried saving to a file from there, and copy/paste. they don't work 13:39:40 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:39:56 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:39:58 Herkamire: tough luck 13:40:12 there's a select all, and copy command 13:40:16 but I can't paste it anywhere 13:40:28 Herkamire: you do it from the view source screen, don't you? 13:40:35 file->save_as tries to download the page again 13:40:41 print to file thing worked 13:40:42 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:40:49 ps2ascii converts it back to text 13:41:02 BACbKA: yes 13:41:20 Herkamire: that works for me here (Linux firefox 1.0.1) 13:41:24 you can't copy from the view source window. and if you try to save, it goes and downloads it again 13:41:52 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:42:16 Herkamire: if you want it the hard way, download via a proxy and save the file from the proxy cache :) 13:42:37 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:43:40 * BACbKA going to bed. An answer about the tail recursion would be appreciated -- I'll read the channel logs off http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/05.03.21 13:43:47 --- quit: BACbKA ("Leaving") 13:43:48 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:44:35 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:44:58 I still have 1.0-r3 13:45:09 (-r3 might just be the package version) 13:45:44 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:45:45 BACbKA: herkforth 13:46:29 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:47:41 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:48:32 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:49:37 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:50:27 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:51:33 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:52:20 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:53:30 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:54:23 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 13:55:25 --- quit: cmeme (Client Quit) 13:56:11 --- join: cmeme 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joined #forth 21:20:27 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-66-124-254-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 21:27:58 IT RUNS HALF LIFE 2 21:28:01 IT RUNS HALF LIFE 2 21:28:03 IT RUNS HALF LIFE 2 21:28:06 IT RUNS HALF LIFE 2 21:28:32 congrats? 21:28:38 :D 21:28:41 yeah, new laptop 21:28:43 been hoping it would 21:28:45 nice 21:28:46 :D 21:28:54 what's its specs? 21:29:36 1.7ghz something processor, 512MB of ram, radeon 9200 21:29:39 dont know about the HD yet 21:29:51 ah. 21:34:39 --- join: SeaForth (~SeaForth@c-24-1-126-202.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:34:43 80GB harddrive 21:34:43 :D 21:34:43 :D 21:34:44 :D 21:34:46 so 20GB windows, 19GB linux, 1GB swap, 40GB data 21:34:48 :D 21:37:25 cool 21:40:18 * Murrlin lightly browses some forth pages, and becomes ashamed 21:40:34 I know not Z80 assembler =( 21:40:41 :D 21:40:47 looks like x86 almost 21:41:05 never had a chance to really delve into it like 6502 21:41:20 and even that I haven't touched since 1997 21:44:35 * Murrlin gets ideas of more esoteric forth platformage... 21:45:02 I know of the Ace but... I'd rather run forth (or make it!) on an MSX or... 21:45:07 hmmm 21:45:14 a colecovision x,x 21:45:30 perhaps a sega master system, forth cross-compiler? 21:46:01 eh I've always wished for a sega genesis-based computer system 21:46:51 if I knew how to write a sega 16bit forth, I'd make one and use it on a nomad *grin* 21:53:18 but now I'm fading out. ta. 21:53:43 --- part: Murrlin left #forth 22:35:46 --- quit: Sonarman (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22:46:23 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:36:15 http://agileradio.dyndns.org/spots/agilemanifesto/ figured some folks here would enjoy this. 23:37:01 What is it? (no sound on this computer, and I want to know if I should bookmark it.) 23:41:14 bookmark it :) 23:41:27 its the agilemanifesto.org's manifesto read by me. 23:41:43 with my 'radio voice' in full force (tempered by being a programmer of many years) 23:45:11 speex! 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.03.21