00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.02.25 00:34:55 --- quit: swalters (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:07:56 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 01:10:28 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 01:16:34 --- quit: Vruba ("Fappo!") 03:52:26 --- quit: aum () 04:46:08 --- join: samc_ (~sam@203-114-131-17.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 05:26:46 --- quit: fridge ("Leaving") 06:04:28 --- join: KB1FYR (~Alex@196-220.suscom-maine.net) joined #forth 06:58:32 --- quit: samc_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:04:50 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:05:27 --- join: ASau (~user@83.102.133.66) joined #forth 08:22:49 --- join: Serg[GPRS] (~z@193.201.231.126) joined #forth 08:27:22 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:16:39 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:16:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 09:29:12 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-057.nyc-tc03a.FCC.NET) joined #forth 10:38:45 hi 10:40:28 Privet! 10:42:05 --- quit: saon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:42:12 * Serg[GPRS] is having hard time building XML site enginw w/ indexing 12:11:17 --- quit: KB1FYR (Remote closed the connection) 12:53:29 --- quit: Serg[GPRS] () 14:18:06 Hi all 14:47:04 bye all 14:47:40 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 15:03:51 --- join: swalters (~swalters@2416457hfc118.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 15:44:22 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 16:10:52 hi 16:43:37 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-64-160-165-252.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 17:15:14 --- join: slava (~slava@24.43.80.135) joined #forth 17:19:00 hi slava 17:19:40 slava: hello sir 17:25:39 does anyone know o ui toolkits written in forth? 17:25:48 of* 17:25:53 bigforth has one 17:26:07 slava: I thought you wrote one for factor? 17:26:39 crc, oh, i forgot all about that 17:26:55 arke, i'm writing one, but i want to look at existing work for ideas on how to express things in the right style 17:27:10 swing is not good inspiration, you know :) 17:27:26 does it really matter for an esoteric language? :D 17:27:37 what matters? 17:29:28 :D 17:30:13 "OpenSSH: Because you can't spell 'asshole' without 'ssh'" 17:32:55 arke, are you still working on your forth os? 17:35:01 slava: not at the moment 17:36:07 --- quit: rsync (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:44:26 does bigforth have a good compiler? 17:44:36 its... big 17:44:44 optimizing native x86 compiler 17:44:48 thats as much as i know 17:44:49 :D 17:47:15 doesn't run on dbsd :) 17:47:18 fbsd* 17:47:45 Muahah! :) 17:48:31 why did the bigforth guy decide to write gforth? 17:48:41 because he didnt 17:48:44 hes only contributing 17:48:52 Anton Ertl wrote gforth, bernd paysan wrote bigforth 17:48:57 ok 17:49:00 one of them is an idiot and the other is german 17:49:01 lol 17:49:02 :D 17:49:26 hmm... which one? :) 17:49:32 ertl doesn't sound like a german name :) 17:49:41 Paysan is the german :D 17:50:03 ertl wants to do a forth 2005 standard to supercede ans 17:50:47 i know 17:50:52 and he wont get far 17:50:52 :D 17:50:58 or worse, he might 17:51:04 true 17:51:12 hes author of some of the stupidest things in gforth 17:51:15 * arke sigh 17:51:20 i haven't studied gforth in detail 17:51:24 what is stupid about it? 17:51:32 some additions are good, but some things are just moronic 17:51:43 they tend to have 2 of everything 17:51:45 it has a very complex implementation IIRC 17:51:46 2 locals implementations even :) 17:52:01 well, you can tell apart most ANS words and gforth specific words in that the gforth specific words are 20 characters long and dont tell you snot about that they do 17:52:04 and you can choose between dtc and itc... too much redundancy 17:52:15 even double ITC 17:52:22 VERY complex implementation 17:52:25 * arke starts to clean up 17:59:36 arke, here is a screenshot i just made: factor.sf.net/ui.png 18:04:28 slava: nice 18:04:49 the dialog box is handled in a nice way 18:05:11 when you call input-dialog, it returns the text entered by the user, so it appears to you that everything blocks until this happends, but the event loop keeps running 18:05:34 in fact each event handler is run in its own (co-operative) task 18:13:42 very nice 18:14:09 * crc has been learning to use darcs 18:16:09 Hi slava. 18:51:58 --- join: Mavros (~slash@sc395.trin.cam.ac.uk) joined #forth 18:52:33 hi Mavros 18:52:39 hi 18:53:17 --- part: Mavros left #forth 20:19:25 --- join: samc_ (~sam@203-114-131-194.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 20:37:50 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 21:50:37 --- quit: samc_ () 22:39:00 * crc goes to bed; goodnight! 22:52:56 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 23:21:22 --- quit: Herkamire ("off to bed") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.02.25