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00:53:24 <]daemon[> morning...
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07:54:44 <robert> Hi
07:54:55 <TheBlueWizard> hiya robert
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08:12:26 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Herkamire
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08:14:32 <Herkamire> hi TheBlueWizard :)
08:18:17 <robert> Hi foxie
08:19:53 <TheBlueWizard> hiya qFox
08:24:19 <qFox> hya
08:24:32 <qFox> how's it goin? :)
08:24:40 <TheBlueWizard> doing fine
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08:44:36 <Serg[GPRS]> hi !
08:45:43 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Serg[GPRS]
08:47:49 * Serg[GPRS] is l00king at Rovert's TForth source
08:52:38 <robert> >:)
08:56:31 * Serg[GPRS] thinks what easy game to implement in TForth
08:59:38 <TheBlueWizard> try writing up a game of concentration
08:59:45 <TheBlueWizard> it is a card game
09:00:39 <Serg[GPRS]> i do not grok cards
09:01:19 <Serg[GPRS]> i even know no Eng words to tell you a funny story of my ignorance :)
09:01:38 <TheBlueWizard> it is a very simple game
09:01:51 <TheBlueWizard> I shall explain how it is played
09:03:23 <Serg[GPRS]> no-no, crap w/it !
09:03:55 <robert> Breakout?
09:04:03 <TheBlueWizard> you have a set of 2n cards (there are two cards of same image, per image), and you shuffle it then put the cards face down in a rectangular pattern.  For example, suppose I have 12 cards, let's say AABBCCDDEEFF
09:04:18 <TheBlueWizard> then I lay out out like this:
09:04:23 <TheBlueWizard> X  X  X  X
09:04:26 <TheBlueWizard> X  X  X  X
09:04:28 <TheBlueWizard> X  X  X  X
09:04:32 <Serg[GPRS]> no-no-no, cards go WC !
09:05:01 <TheBlueWizard> now I pick one card to see what's underneath it..then pick another card...if they match, then I remove both of them
09:05:30 * TheBlueWizard decides Serg[GPRS] absolutely hates his suggestion....
09:05:39 <TheBlueWizard> how about a game of Pong? :)
09:06:36 <Serg[GPRS]> i always lose in reflexes games, ex for driving or air combat
09:06:54 <Serg[GPRS]> in Blockout and Pong, i lose assolutely ;((
09:07:44 <TheBlueWizard> then what do you *like*?
09:08:08 <Serg[GPRS]> hmm...
09:08:26 <Serg[GPRS]> i think of ADOM-is thing, but too complex for coding 'in one sit'
09:10:30 <TheBlueWizard> ADOM?
09:10:46 <Serg[GPRS]> know Nethack ?
09:10:52 <Serg[GPRS]> similar things
09:10:56 <TheBlueWizard> ah yes yes
09:11:37 <TheBlueWizard> a good nethack clone is indeed a large effort...um...I guess you like adventure type game then?
09:16:16 <Serg[GPRS]> you are @-sign and you roam among monsters and slay 'em
09:17:59 <Serg[GPRS]> mostly - stomping goblins by mouse :))
09:19:56 <Serg[GPRS]> or growing ueber-hero
09:20:57 <TheBlueWizard> yeah.  there are other types of adventures, like Zork....or even more fun, a simple first person 3D gaming a la Wizardry
09:24:45 <Serg[GPRS]> no, i dislike storylines
09:25:10 <Serg[GPRS]> just roam, hunt and loot :))
09:25:35 <TheBlueWizard> you can do that
09:28:25 <Serg[GPRS]> for that i bought Morrowind, but it is to-o-o slo-o-o-ow, really lacking time compression, like in u-boat sim
09:29:37 <Serg[GPRS]> or fastmap like Fallout and Arcanum
10:29:00 <Herkamire> I hate it when games make you wait a lot
10:29:08 <Herkamire> or even just walk loong distances
10:29:54 <Herkamire> my favorite thing about snes9x (nintendo emulator) was the speed-up button. while you hold down tab it would run the emulator at something like 4X
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12:03:54 <Serg[GPRS]> re
12:04:07 * Serg[GPRS] is listening to Beatles oldies
12:07:31 <robert> :)
12:08:46 <Serg[GPRS]> Jonny Bee good -< Leave my kitten alone 
12:08:53 <Serg[GPRS]> ->
12:09:49 <Serg[GPRS]> real reel oldies, be4 any EMI disks
12:10:44 <Serg[GPRS]> may give if u want - outgoing traffic free at work
12:11:19 <robert> I think I have  that one
12:12:47 <Serg[GPRS]> Lucille ? Long tall Sally ? Besame mucho ?
12:15:50 <Serg[GPRS]> err, the 2nd is not a lost rarity ;)) 
12:18:35 <Serg[GPRS]> do you play music ? guitar or whatever
12:20:20 <robert> Nope, I don't
12:20:59 <Serg[GPRS]> i tryed once but either guitar was cracked or bear stepped my ear ;))
12:22:06 <Serg[GPRS]> i turned the pins back and forth, and it seemed like that didn't affect strings at all
12:23:26 <Serg[GPRS]> but nowdays, on surely good friend's guitar, i hear the diff from even a tiny tuning
12:27:24 <Serg[GPRS]> Anecdote: 
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12:28:38 <Serg[GPRS]> Almost every jewish family here forces their kids to study piano or violin, maybe to show the fake sign of "cultural supremacy"
12:29:03 <robert> ZOG strikes again!
12:29:43 <robert> saon: Not very young anymore, are you?
12:30:06 <Serg[GPRS]> Hearing yet another mom boasting about her daughter, i asked: Can any of you play "Great balls of fire" ?
12:30:37 <Serg[GPRS]> I rarely seen such a degree of discouragement !
12:32:16 <Serg[GPRS]> (the choice of song was from seeing TopGun just be4, it could be also "One after Nine-O-nine", or "Long tall Sally", or whatever)
12:33:21 <Serg[GPRS]> whadda u think, did Tom Cruise really flew F-18A Tomcat ?
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13:16:16 <Herkamire> grrrr
13:16:23 <Herkamire> our government is so freaking stupid
13:17:04 <Herkamire> can't freaking do anything
13:18:09 <Herkamire> I just found out that it's illegal in massachusets to make a deal with a realter so that they get a commission on only the part of the sale price above a certain amount
13:18:28 <Herkamire> ie "sell the house for at least $200000. Anything above that you get 20% of"
13:19:18 <Herkamire> one law like that isn't such a big deal... but there's thousands and thousands
13:20:22 <Herkamire> I don't see how it's any of the governments *&@#$@*@# business how I pay my realter
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13:29:53 <Frek> no robert here ?
13:31:56 <robert> Nope.
13:32:05 <Frek> odd
13:32:05 <robert> He's on Venus, exploring the seas.
13:32:18 <Frek> amazing :P
13:32:20 <Frek> vad gör du ?
13:32:30 <robert> Kodar C! ;)
13:32:36 <Frek> förädare :P
13:33:32 <robert> Mmm.
13:33:44 * robert vill ha lite fart på grejerna.
13:33:55 <Frek> duger inte forth då ? 
13:34:04 <robert> Nej.
13:34:12 <Frek> fair enough
13:34:16 <robert> :)
13:34:34 <Frek> jag skojar bara, jag använder betydligt mycket mer c/c++ än forth
13:35:12 <robert> C++ använder jag inte, däremot lite C ibland.
13:35:22 <robert> Och Java, när skolan tvingar mig.
13:35:45 <Frek> lamt
13:35:56 <Frek> vart går du iskola förresten ? 
13:36:44 <robert> KTH.
13:37:11 <Frek> sthlm 
13:37:15 <robert> Mmm
13:37:17 <Frek> lame
13:37:41 <robert> Alla kan ju inte gå på Jukkasjärvi universitet.
13:38:01 <Frek> =)
13:40:20 <Herkamire> ook
13:40:52 <robert> Herkamire: Swedish, please.
13:41:11 <Frek> Herkamire: ack
13:41:18 <Herkamire> sorry, I don't know Swedish. Thought maybe I could get my point accross in Ape
13:41:32 <Frek> Herkamire: speaking german randomly sucks
14:27:21 <crc> hi all
14:29:31 <robert> Hi
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15:06:20 <robert> Hi
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17:07:53 <arke> < robT> Name ONE thing that your windows comp can do that my MAC cant
17:07:54 <arke> < bawss> Right click.
17:08:35 <robert> Crash.
17:11:03 <arke> :)
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17:44:26 <robert> Hi there.
17:44:31 <EtherNet> hello rob
17:44:34 <robert> May I interest you in some Forth? ;)
17:45:08 <EtherNet> loL
17:50:53 <arke> : : : ;
17:51:01 <arke> heh
17:51:28 <arke> : drop dup - + ;
17:53:22 <arke> 18:46:40 <kc5tja> chris-xp: Big Definitions go 'ROUND THE BLOCK!  Big Definitions Overflowww!  Big Definitions give you goosebumps, Big Definitions make your code grow!  Big Definitions make me scream!  Big Definitions hurt my eyes!  Big Definitions have a mean streak!  Big Definitions HAVE NO SOOOOUUUULLLL!!!
17:53:27 <arke> whee
17:53:29 <arke> oopts
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17:53:32 <arke> wrong window
17:53:32 <arke> :D
17:53:35 <slava> any windows users?
17:53:38 <arke> slava: Hello there
17:53:40 <arke> slava: Me.
17:53:42 <slava> hi
17:53:55 <arke> slava: But I Doubt I Can Help But I Can Try Dear Sir
17:54:24 <slava> we need a tester to make sure factor win32 binary works. all you have to do is run an exe and see if it crashes on startup or not ;)
17:54:45 <arke> Sure.
17:54:52 <arke> Esoteric programming languages are fun ;)
17:54:58 <slava> http://factor.sf.net/Factor-win32.zip
17:55:07 <slava> unzip it, drag factor.image onto f.exe (or go to dos prompt and do f.exe factor.image)
17:56:19 <arke> Loading C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Factor-win32\factor.image... rel
17:56:19 <arke> ocating... done
17:56:19 <arke> Factor 0.70 (OS: win32 CPU: x86)
17:56:19 <arke> Copyright (C) 2003, 2004 Slava Pestov
17:56:19 <arke> Copyright (C) 2004 Chris Double
17:56:21 <arke> Copyright (C) 2004 Mackenzie Straight
17:56:24 <arke> Type ``exit'' to exit, ``help'' for help.
17:56:26 <arke> Data space: 65536 KB total 627 KB used 64908 KB free
17:56:29 <arke> Code space: 65536 KB total 69 KB used 65466 KB free
17:56:31 <arke> ok
17:56:54 <arke> wheeeee
17:57:02 <slava> eh
17:57:03 <arke> yay to esoteric languages
17:57:05 <slava> i uploaded an old zip file
17:57:08 <slava> sorry
17:57:11 <arke> Grr!
17:57:13 <arke> :)
17:57:48 <slava> factor.sf.net/Factor-win32-0.72.zip
17:59:07 <arke> SDL window pops up for half a second then the entire app disappears
17:59:10 <arke> its all your failt
17:59:12 <arke> grrr
17:59:13 <arke> :)
17:59:20 <slava> hmm
18:01:14 <arke> oh YES
18:01:16 <arke> i LOVE this song
18:01:55 <slava> what windows version?
18:02:18 <arke> XP
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18:02:27 <slava> what video card?
18:02:44 <arke> ...
18:02:52 <arke> why does that matter, its SDL?
18:03:06 <slava> well i pass the SDL_HWSURFACE flag to SDL_SetVideoMode
18:03:08 <slava> maybe its not supported
18:03:27 <slava> but the guy who did the windows port uses win2k in vmware and it works...
18:03:41 <slava> anyway, he'll fix it
18:04:13 <slava> can you try this: f.exe factor.image  -shell=telnet -telnetd-port=9999
18:04:24 <slava> then start telnet, and connect to localhost port 9999
18:05:48 <arke> too late, i have to run :/
18:05:52 <slava> ok
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18:18:20 <thinfu> wow quiet here!
18:18:35 <slava> turns the problem was missing fonts in the zip package :-P
18:19:34 <thinfu> i just bought a 200 gigabyte hard drive for 100 bucks cheaper than the 40 gig harddrive i bought 3 years ago..  
18:19:39 <thinfu> gotta love technology
18:19:52 <thinfu> now lets hope my mobo isn't too old to recognize all of it
18:20:00 <thinfu> at least for windows
18:20:02 <thinfu> linux don't care
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19:35:40 <crc> hi again
19:35:50 <slava> hi crc
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20:09:15 <KB1FYR> Slava?
20:09:18 <KB1FYR> Slava who?
20:09:42 <KB1FYR> I know a Slava, and it doesn't seem like a common name, and he's into programming, so...
20:13:38 <thinfu> slava the guy that coded jedit
20:13:46 <thinfu> http://jedit.sf.net i think
20:13:56 <thinfu> its common european name
20:13:58 <thinfu> russian?
20:13:59 <thinfu> i dunno
20:14:07 <thinfu> more common over there anyways :P
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21:40:57 <crc> goodnight
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23:59:59 <SeaForth> is there a forth in ruby yet?
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