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10:19:50 well my current camera is a Kodak DC3200 10:19:51 which is, like... 10:19:53 well... 10:19:59 a bit antiquated 10:20:15 hmm, overall good but for many details i won't buy it ;(( 10:20:48 does 5060 have RAW ? 10:20:55 i seem yes 10:21:10 oh? 10:21:36 raw matrix data in file, NO processing at all 10:21:54 yes, it does. 10:22:24 nice ! does it shoot bursts if trigger held ? 10:22:37 i'm not really sure... it does have a burst mode though 10:22:47 --- quit: segher ("Leaving") 10:23:19 this what i dislike MOST in Oly - default burst shooting if button held 10:23:45 i can't say that really bothers me 10:24:13 just stick in a nice big card and fill the thing to the brim 10:24:32 in Canon, at least A-70, hold = rewiev, wery nice ! 10:24:54 besides, i just want something a little more modern than a 0.9megapixel for taking these kinds of pics: http://caladan.nanosoft.ca/c4/bbbits/osiris.php 10:25:27 sorry, won't look - xpencive bytes, chat only :( 10:26:18 i just got 2Mp cellphone-like cam for ~67$ 10:26:58 2AA, SD/MMC, no zoom, TFT+LCD 10:27:34 oh 10:27:38 okay then 10:28:17 but if go hundreds $, i vote for Canon A-95 10:29:12 or Panasonic FZ-.. : 12x + stabilizer, but reported small matrix - hi noise 10:29:33 the macro on the canon isn't particularly impressive 10:29:36 i shoot mostly in macro mode 10:30:22 my only point-blanc shots are business cards and ads 10:30:28 :) 10:30:49 i take pictures of circuit boards 10:30:51 lots of them 10:31:35 aha ... i sometime shoot thing be4 taking apart, to remember how to reassemble 10:32:21 i shoot things before putting together 10:32:24 to show how it was done 10:32:45 nice ! 10:34:00 * solar_angel builds a lot of stuff 10:34:11 and what are you making ? 10:34:47 many things 10:34:59 too bad you can't open the link i pointed to 10:35:43 mail me to 'snaga twirl inbox.ru' so i'll open from work 10:37:02 dhamn, i'm out of USB slots !! 10:37:08 i'm currently working on a homebrew computer 10:37:53 wanna beat garage messiah's of 80's ? 10:38:04 eh? 10:38:53 Steve Jobes, Sinclair etc... 10:39:02 hehehe. 10:39:07 i'm just having fun, actually 10:39:14 building myself a little Z80-based machine 10:39:20 i've got most of the programmer card done now 10:40:16 i got 'messianic' idea-fix too: designing a radio what can be built in medieval forge 10:40:30 heh 10:40:34 amplifying one, or even regenerative 10:40:45 that'd be fun 10:40:45 the keyword is : CRYSTADYNE 10:40:47 not even too hard 10:41:08 crystadyne? 10:41:30 invented by RU garage genius Losev back in 1927, then RU laid in ruins after revolution and civil war 10:41:44 ah 10:41:51 i think tubes are better for that 10:42:05 and still within forging capability 10:42:24 no-no ! 10:43:01 crystadine, unlike tubes, can be built in ancient-greek, deep-african or postnuke circumstances 10:43:28 tubes, as well as regular semiconductors, take hi industry to produce 10:43:40 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 10:43:59 um, no, they don't. 10:44:01 they really don't 10:44:21 have you ever done any old-fashioned glass-blowing? 10:44:33 (you'd probably have to use a charcoal kiln for old-style sake) 10:45:17 no, but i'm pretty sure what i'll be unable to make wolfram thread or vacuum pipe in such a prehistoric workshop 10:45:33 vacuum pump, typo 10:45:56 first of all, you don't need wolfram/tungsten in vacuum tubes 10:45:59 that's only for lightbulbs 10:46:05 most heaters are nickel wire 10:46:11 they don't need to get hot enough to incandesce 10:46:14 only hot enough to move ions 10:46:36 as for the vacuum pump, that's really not that hard if you've got your green sand box. 10:46:41 hmm, any tubes i seen emit red light 10:46:48 yes, a very faint amount 10:46:52 that's way, way cooler than a lightbulb 10:47:22 IIRC, even first tube-makers in RU had great trubble w/ vacuum 10:47:38 and they used litebulb wolfram for catode 10:47:40 *shrugs* using a getter is easy enough 10:47:52 sure they did... but there are cheaper things that work properly as the cathode (or rather, the heater) 10:47:52 getter ? 10:48:11 a getter is a highly reactive metal wire inside the tube that's burned off, usually by inductive heating, although direct heating is also used 10:48:17 it absorbs a lot of the stray ions 10:48:26 improving the vacuum well beyond what the actual pump does 10:48:40 * solar_angel has studied this stuff. 10:49:35 anyway, i bet much more people can do crystadyne than tubes in a countryside forge, even modern 10:49:50 perhaps 10:49:58 plus, tubes wear/burn out, crystadyne - not 10:49:59 tubes are still relatively easy to do though 10:50:11 remember they were invented by very small teams of people - not huge megalithic corporations 10:50:18 if 2 or 3 people in a workshop can invent them... 10:50:23 i don't see why 1-2 people in a workshop can't build them 10:50:25 plus, tubes need much more battery than xtal 10:50:36 true... 10:50:53 under deep crisis, shops will run out of Duracell ;)) 10:51:07 * solar_angel points up. 10:51:28 when you're out of duracell, try some durasun. 10:52:00 he-he-he ! if only u have sun cells handy 10:52:09 ewww, i wouldn't waste time with solar cells 10:52:18 you'd be much better off with some sort of steam system 10:52:22 solar steam system, i mean 10:52:36 wise ! 10:52:37 and i assure you that can be built. 10:53:22 i'd rather go for bio-cells ... but they should be invented beforehand 10:53:46 heh 10:53:47 tank w/ kinda like chlorella + sun + electrodes ... 10:54:16 * Serg[GPRS] bbl - evening hygiene 11:05:35 * Serg[GPRS] is back 11:09:52 heh, you maybe think of post-nuke, me - of deep social crisis, the the cause of industry/supply breakage is not the war demolition but anarchy, looting etc 11:11:38 i never mind nuke, coz i live in primary target - Moscow, and gonnabe either be blasted in a wink or be killed in a days by water supply cut -> epidemia, or rush for escape ways 11:12:07 heh 11:14:02 actually, many RU regions live post-nuke life coz of current crisis ;( 11:16:22 some folks say what in deep countryside u can live entire life w/o seeing law enforcer man - if only something outstanding won't happen, like mass escape of prisoners or soldiers (forcibly enrolled) 11:18:02 heh 11:23:40 did i tell you about a strange romance i have ? 11:25:53 nope 11:29:01 i meet w/ one nice dyke ;)) she's a girl of my dream, ex for the fact she does not like men to an xtreme 11:29:10 heh. 11:30:03 no-touch romance is an exciting xperience ;)) 11:30:41 heh 11:30:43 i suppose 11:31:21 Serg, do you have anything about your project/s on a website? 11:31:41 what proj ? 11:31:56 homebrew computer 11:32:48 oops 11:32:54 u mix me w/ someone else ! i'm not so skilled to do one, beyond some speculative ideas i might say 11:33:13 solar_angel how 'bout you :) 11:33:51 * samc apologises for the mixup 11:34:33 heh 11:34:34 yes, i do. 11:34:41 i pasted a link up above even 11:34:53 oh 11:34:58 * samc looks above 11:47:48 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 11:47:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 11:51:53 * Serg[GPRS] falls asleep - BYE ! 11:51:56 --- quit: Serg[GPRS] () 12:28:57 * samc takes a mental note: do not traumatise 8-year-old girls 12:29:04 * solar_angel laughs 12:29:08 that sounds pretty much self-evident 12:29:09 Heh 12:29:18 What did you do now, samc 12:29:19 ? 12:33:03 I left out a protection circuit 12:33:22 a protection circuit? 12:33:26 ohhhh 12:33:28 --- join: zoly (~l@ppp-82-135-2-87.mnet-online.de) joined #forth 12:33:31 you're reading circuit corner? 12:33:36 yes 12:33:38 hi 12:33:39 * solar_angel smiles 12:34:38 Hi 12:36:49 * thinfu has read Heinlein's book "Friday" also 12:37:21 have you read his other books? 12:37:21 * solar_angel loved that book 12:37:27 a couple of them 12:37:41 starship troopers, podkayne, puppet masters 12:37:48 there's a series of books about this woman attaining immortality and having sexual liasons with her son, grandson, father, etc.. 12:38:01 ...As I left the Kenya Beanstalk capsule he was right on my heels. He followed me through the door... 12:38:02 her grandson traveled back in time or something 12:38:14 * solar_angel grins at zoly 12:39:58 i don't know what to make of heinlein's incest in the book.. 12:40:18 http://forthfreak.net/Friday.txt ... 12:40:33 what, you have the full text? 12:40:39 zoly = speuler? 12:40:52 rite 12:41:08 well i'll be damned. 12:41:12 hmm, the zoly nick made me think you were a 16 year old script kiddie hax0r 12:41:35 first impressions mind you ;) 12:41:36 thanks, ever since my paperback copy went awol, i've been missing that one 12:41:52 isn't perfectly formatted, but usable 12:42:24 Friday.jpg is the cover 12:43:27 :/ 12:43:41 thanks again zoly, looks fine to me 12:43:46 i was hoping for a controversial discussion about heinlein's books 12:43:47 my pleasure 12:43:52 but nobody seems to be biting :( 12:44:01 I was thinking of getting a Heinlein book, unfortunately I don't have access to a library or very much money, I was going to get siasl, any opinions? 12:44:22 samc, which one do you want :) 12:44:36 samc: stranger in a strange land is a good book, my favorite of all of heinlein's 12:45:10 cheers 12:45:18 that one zoly :) 12:45:41 samc: .../Stranger.txt 12:45:49 cool 12:46:01 yay for reading books on the computer and burning up the eyes! 12:46:20 i use a pda 12:46:54 woo. 12:46:54 always a few dozens or hundreds of books in the pocket ... 12:47:11 I have a laptop from 91 which has a surprisingly easy to read lcd 12:47:40 i use this cool little linux program called Etext Reader, with a huge font and a low-contrast reading color scheme 12:47:42 pda is nice to handle. 12:47:45 i can read for days without eyestrain 12:47:46 it's nice 12:48:39 i did read the whole discworld series on the pda 12:48:47 that's about 30 books 12:49:28 goes very well 12:50:13 i'm not sure i even want to admit what i'm reading right now :P 12:50:14 I can't wait for (high contrast) reflective displays 12:50:41 wait, what can I do but wait :p 12:50:55 that's a so-called transflective display in the pda 12:51:09 50 % or so 12:52:03 but i want a higher-resolution pda 12:55:18 I don't care so much about the resolution, just the migraine inducing light shining in my eyes 12:56:58 SeaForth: awake ? 13:25:03 samc, you're a curious one 13:25:22 I am? 13:25:38 you just asked google for "speuler forth" 13:25:47 you mean my browsing? 13:25:50 yes I am 13:26:55 ff18 is the latest btw 13:31:13 the two matches below you found herkamire.com ... 13:32:21 what do you mean the two matches below? 13:32:36 below the forthforth hit 13:33:22 * zoly is just tracing your search actions 13:37:43 * samc is weirded out 13:43:46 KB1FYR|AFK: that's your blog: http://forum.4hv.org/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=3065 ? 13:45:07 what do you mean by NAL is built form NABs and NAFs? 13:45:38 its code is made up from "not-feature" and "not-bug" 13:45:56 ...? 13:46:20 a nab is "not a bug" 13:46:32 and a naf a "not a feature" 13:47:22 often code is made from features which are not bugs 13:47:32 yes, I get that but what isn't built from non-bugs and how can anything be built from non-features 13:47:48 by reducing 13:47:54 reduction 13:48:36 so that's what the feature list is all about :p 13:50:24 sounds cool, how far along is it? 13:50:24 haven't been doing much work on it. mudry is coding away on it 13:50:33 wow that was quick 13:50:36 i thought i might kick in when it gets less c-centric ... 13:52:33 yeah Zoly 13:52:42 That's my blog 13:52:46 --- nick: KB1FYR|AFK -> KB1FYR 13:55:30 hi KB1FYR 13:55:59 nice 13:57:55 Thanks :-) 13:58:04 How'd you find it? 13:58:07 Hey arke 13:58:23 hmmm 13:58:32 * KB1FYR hasn't done much to his blog for a while 13:58:44 KB1FYR: i turned on my Forth sensor 13:59:06 zoly, you're a curious one 13:59:30 samc: information is good 13:59:45 you know... it's time i mention a script language that's likely to have a mixed, but positive reception here. 13:59:51 one of the few languages that actually has any roots in FORTH 13:59:58 postscript! postscript rocks! 14:03:31 --- quit: samc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:03:52 hmm 14:04:25 Ahh, a FORTH sensor. I have one of them. I'll call him Google, because that is his name. 14:06:37 --- join: samc (~sam@203-114-131-213.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 14:06:55 wb samc 14:07:32 * samc damns his flaky connection 14:07:58 KB1FYR: somebody clicked "fcpu1" in your blog, and gave me that way the referrer url 14:09:14 hmm looks like all the witty things I said didn't get sent 14:11:07 --- join: asymptote (~dmesg@68.48.8.92) joined #forth 14:11:59 solar_angel Don Lancaster is always going on about ps, he has a few interesting things on his site 14:12:32 --- join: zol1 (~l@ppp-82-135-11-25.mnet-online.de) joined #forth 14:12:44 KB1FYR: somebody clicked "fcpu1" in your blog, and gave me that way the referrer url 14:12:47 that means, the "sensor" is a log-processing cron job 14:12:51 i got the url of your blog emailed by it 14:13:26 samc - yep, i've read a few of them. 14:13:28 postscript is cool 14:13:36 i'm actually about 30% through writing a postscript interpreter 14:13:37 oh, cool 14:13:48 (although it does NOT have the postscript graphics engine, it's just the script interpreter...) 14:13:59 --- quit: asymptote (Client Quit) 14:15:03 afk for a bit, bbl 14:21:48 KB1FYR: i got a morse key hooked up to my computer btw 14:23:36 Herkamire: complete 14:23:56 backo 14:24:02 cool 14:24:13 CW plugin for XChat"? 14:24:18 right 14:24:22 hmm 14:24:26 cwirc 14:24:32 yeah, that's it 14:24:44 I need to set up Fink so I can dl it 14:24:57 if it even exists for x-chat aqua 14:27:05 http://www.morsetasten.de/morse/bilder/morse133.JPG 14:27:09 that is the one 14:27:10 If it does, it's not on Fink :-( 14:27:31 Hmm, what an odd little code key 14:27:55 it has a round kob instead of a flat knob 14:27:58 knob* 14:28:09 hey zoly 14:28:10 Are you a ham, zol? 14:28:14 nope 14:28:28 But you know morse code? 14:28:32 right 14:28:35 cool 14:28:43 * KB1FYR needs to learn it 14:29:15 the #cwirc channel is a good help.. you can request news in cw 14:30:00 several logical cw channels on one irc channel multiplexed, means you can chose the speed of new transmission 14:30:12 choose 14:30:37 hi all 14:30:43 also, there's a gatewayed cw channel 14:30:50 hi crc 14:31:21 --- quit: zoly (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:31:28 --- nick: zol1 -> zoly 14:36:36 --- nick: zoly -> zoly_afk 14:47:07 --- join: Raystm2_ (~Ray@adsl-70-248-101-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 14:51:19 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 14:51:37 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 14:52:10 --- quit: saon (Remote closed the connection) 15:02:07 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:06:39 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 15:15:27 solar_angel: are you doing the postscript interpreter in forth? 15:15:39 solar_angel: fwiw, i like postscript a lot also 15:15:44 nope 15:15:48 i'm writing it in C 15:15:58 i think a postscript-like vocabulary should be implemented in forth 15:16:10 they're different languages 15:16:14 without all the bloated kludge 15:16:16 C and PHP look almost identical but behave totally differently 15:16:27 i've done work in postscript before 15:16:44 should be fairly easy to implement something similar in forth but forthish 15:17:41 i suppose 15:17:57 i don't really believe in one-language-fits-all anymore 15:18:08 then you'll love Mono ;) 15:18:23 not really, no. 15:20:52 anyways i'm not talking about a one-language-fits-all deal 15:21:05 if i wanted to do a gui in forth then i'd implement a vocabulary similar to the one postscript has 15:21:09 at, moveto, etc 15:21:28 ohhhh 15:21:35 you just mean the postscript graphics commands 15:21:35 postscript doesn't really have anything that forth doesn't anyways.. 15:21:38 ya, i did that in forth a while ago 15:21:42 yeah 15:21:54 actually, it does, it has several things 15:22:00 it's much, much easier to handle list and string processing in :P 15:22:04 it's a much better data language 15:22:10 FORTH is a system language 15:22:12 data language? 15:22:15 postscript is a script language 15:22:31 well okay, what would you use to process text, perl or forth? 15:22:33 i mean, seriously? 15:22:54 depends on the task i guess 15:23:12 processing lists of text in files or somesuch 15:23:22 and yes 15:23:23 did a log parser in forth that had about the same number of lines as my friend's perl code (he challenged me) 15:23:24 that's my point 15:23:29 cute 15:24:00 out of the box forth doesn't really have good string processing i'll agree 15:24:11 haven't really seen any good solutions to that yet tho heh 15:24:15 * solar_angel nods. 15:24:29 well use the right tool for the job. 15:24:41 having no syntax is a liablity in some cases 15:24:49 a dremel might seem like the right tool for almost any job... but when you're cutting a lot of precision things, you'll be thankful to have a scroll saw after all 15:24:57 cuz we can't make up an elegant syntax for string processing etc 15:25:05 exactly 15:25:25 on the other hand, modes are evil 15:25:37 what about quasi-modes? :P 15:25:40 modes? 15:25:58 i'm refering to terminology from "the humane interface" by jef raskin 15:26:17 i don't think i've read that 15:26:29 i recommend it, its an enjoyable read 15:26:39 dead-trees? 15:26:50 yeah, borrow it from the library 15:26:55 mmkay 15:27:03 lots of ppl here have read it 15:27:16 Herkamire, ianp, kc5tja, i, and probably a few others.. 15:27:26 arke too i think 15:27:38 * solar_angel is building a postscript interpreter right into her C library. 15:27:56 will this interpreter draw stuff? 15:28:17 i mean what happens when you pass postscript graphics commands to it.. 15:28:26 --- nick: zoly_afk -> zoly 15:28:39 well, it gives you a blank look and says dictionary lookup failed 15:28:45 lol 15:28:53 see, it's only the interpreter, not the graphics backend 15:28:56 that's a seperate section 15:29:07 which, while i am writing it, has nothing to do with the pure langauge, as such 15:37:09 * crc has to go (food time), bbs 15:39:06 --- quit: solar_angel ("nini") 15:41:46 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 15:46:27 --- part: zoly left #forth 15:50:57 * arke hasnt read it but plans to 16:02:00 arke: but you have it? 16:03:46 no 16:04:54 yea, the humane interface is interesting 16:05:25 but it seems to be split into two not very related parts 16:05:31 yeah 16:05:34 the scientific part 16:05:39 and then the made up part 16:05:40 heh 16:07:06 it seems forthers are much more ui theory aware thanks to the cat 16:08:20 although that is not how I found it... 16:19:00 hmm, i wouldn't say thanks to the cat 16:19:05 most forthers don't know of the cat 16:19:11 except thru the book 16:20:45 cat? 16:21:23 canon cat 16:21:30 ? 16:22:10 a computer with quite a few elements of his interface implemented in it 16:22:14 made back in 85 or something 16:27:50 --- quit: Topaz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:42:33 I would have thought it was due to the cat, but if arke hasn't heard of it... 16:42:47 arke, the cat had forth built in 16:42:56 read up on it 16:43:22 perhaps, great minds share interests alike :) 16:52:11 :) 17:08:19 --- part: KB1FYR left #forth 17:09:50 back 17:10:56 --- join: KB1FYR (~Alex@196-220.suscom-maine.net) joined #forth 17:15:08 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 17:15:24 Hi aum 17:15:33 hi crc 17:21:01 "...general system of making observations of magnetic force in countries in which the force of gravity is different." 17:23:09 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:35:05 --- quit: aum () 17:39:56 Does anyone know the current status of Chuck Moore's 25 core CPU? 17:40:08 I heard somewhere that it was bought from him and then it disappeared or something, is that true? 17:40:59 no idea 17:41:04 I'm really itnerested in it though 17:41:56 yeah 17:42:00 it sounds awesome 17:42:11 and even if it isn't that good, it's still very cool :-) 17:42:18 http://ultratechnology.com/fsc04.htm 17:42:25 has a few details about the chip 17:44:02 I believe that some details are supposed to be revealed in April of this year if Jeff Fox was right 17:44:23 oh cool 18:03:34 --- quit: samc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:06:42 --- quit: Hyrax ("Chatzilla 0.9.66c [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") 18:10:19 --- join: samc (~sam@203-114-131-102.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 18:15:59 --- quit: samc () 18:42:52 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@63.250.24.236) joined #forth 18:52:16 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.2) joined #forth 19:13:42 chuck is working on a 50x chip 19:15:52 50x? AFAIK he has not even produced (fabbed) the 25s chip.... 19:16:16 yeah, all the more reason to skip that step and produce the 50x.. 19:17:16 thinfu: where do you get a 50x chip from? 19:17:27 * crc hasn't heard anything about 50x... 19:17:32 jeff fox mentioned that in here :) 19:17:40 when? 19:17:52 within the last 3 months 19:17:57 hmm 19:18:24 or maybe he didn't 19:18:29 maybe kc5tja told me that 19:20:20 20:30 Supposedly, he's busy working on the 50X chip still. 19:20:29 in a pm to me 19:20:42 whew, i was worried for a second i made it up ;) 19:21:55 What date was that? 19:23:02 20:28 i wonder what chuck moore is up to these days 19:23:02 20:28 thin: Busy writing ColorForth 2 in ColorForth 1. :) 19:23:02 20:29 cool 19:23:02 20:29 seemed to me that he wasn't really working on colorforth 19:23:02 20:29 but i guess he just doesn't maintain the site or whatever 19:23:04 20:30 Nope. But he makes the occasional appearance on the CF mailing list. 19:23:07 20:30 Supposedly, he's busy working on the 50X chip still. 19:23:10 --- Log closed Mon Sep 06 20:35:28 2004 19:25:15 * crc looks back over the mailing list... 19:25:52 Chuck gave a presentation in the afternoon where he 19:25:52 talked about his colorForth mostly. He said that he 19:25:52 would soon be posting two applications in his colorForth 19:25:52 and that these would be a cross compiler for c18 (was 19:25:52 called x18) and a simulator for 25x (which might become 19:25:52 50x before fabrication.) 19:25:59 http://www.strangegizmo.com/forth/ColorForth/msg00261.html 19:26:00 :) 19:26:01 ok 19:26:11 perhaps he has gone to 50x now 19:26:41 :) 19:29:24 and then his wife died :( 19:31:21 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 19:37:12 --- join: asymptote (~dmesg@68.48.8.92) joined #forth 19:58:36 --- quit: asymptote ("Leaving") 20:01:06 --- quit: Raystm2_ ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 20:06:09 --- join: Raystm2 (~Ray@adsl-70-248-101-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 20:46:41 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 21:15:27 --- quit: KB1FYR (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:30:23 --- quit: aum () 21:58:59 --- nick: Raystm2 -> netty 21:59:32 --- nick: netty -> Raystm2 22:03:25 --- nick: Raystm2 -> netty 22:03:41 --- nick: netty -> Raystm2 22:16:41 --- quit: ycchang (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:17:12 --- nick: Raystm2 -> EMT 22:18:28 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-33-164-75.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 22:20:21 --- nick: EMT -> Raystm2 23:19:40 Morning 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.02.15