00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.02.08 00:14:53 goodnight all 00:15:18 --- quit: ball ("leaving") 00:22:26 --- join: Raystm2_ (~Ray@adsl-69-149-63-57.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:30:58 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:03:55 --- quit: Herkamire ("off to bed finally") 01:35:50 --- join: Topaz (~top@cerberus.saywell.net) joined #forth 02:21:38 --- join: samc_ (~sam@203-114-131-192.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 03:02:06 --- quit: Sonarman_ ("leaving") 03:27:23 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 03:30:22 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 03:33:57 --- quit: aum (Client Quit) 03:51:15 --- nick: saon -> saon|school 05:42:20 --- join: SeaForth (~SeaForth@c-24-1-126-202.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:26:21 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 06:47:45 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 06:51:25 --- quit: samc_ () 07:15:00 --- part: SeaForth left #forth 07:30:08 --- join: SeaForth (~SeaForth@c-24-1-126-202.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:54:26 --- join: Topaz (~top@cerberus.saywell.net) joined #forth 08:26:44 --- join: segher (~segher@blueice2n1.de.ibm.com) joined #forth 09:17:57 --- nick: Raystm2_ -> Raystm2 09:53:32 --- join: bbls (~bbls@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 10:02:50 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:23:11 --- quit: bbls (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:06:00 --- join: bbls (~bbls@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 11:09:03 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 11:11:14 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:19:33 --- join: jreaver (~jreaver@dsl-80-42-105-184.access.as9105.com) joined #forth 11:19:50 --- part: jreaver left #forth 11:39:43 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 11:39:43 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 12:18:19 --- nick: bbls -> xor7 12:19:30 --- part: segher left #forth 12:39:36 --- quit: xor7 () 12:50:18 --- join: Mavros (~slash@sc395.trin.cam.ac.uk) joined #forth 13:21:16 --- nick: saon|school -> saon 13:24:13 --- part: Mavros left #forth 13:42:13 --- part: snowrichard left #forth 14:12:59 Hi all 14:18:11 --- join: Topaz (~top@cerberus.saywell.net) joined #forth 14:23:49 heya crc 14:24:03 Hi saon 14:24:23 what are you up to? 14:24:35 I'm preparing to start retro8 for Windows :) 14:25:02 The Linux and Native versions are working now, and the Generic port is close to being ready 14:25:37 w00t 14:26:47 what's this diskimage file in 7.6? 14:27:19 * saon is lazy and doesn't feel like reading readme 14:29:21 nvm, got it 14:33:55 crc, i got retroforth working on this old beast computer :D 14:35:22 how old? 14:35:32 from arond '92 14:35:44 around* 14:36:20 what are the specs? 14:38:29 25mhz proc (a 486dx if i remember correctly), 4mb of ram 14:38:36 and an hd, dunno how big 14:39:10 cool 14:39:55 It should run on anything with at least a 386, 1MB ram, and floppy drive 14:40:15 Do you want to try booting rf8/native on it? 14:40:31 sure 14:40:33 http://www.retroforth.org/retro8-native.tar.gz 14:41:12 Less drivers than 7.6, but faster and with a block editor built in :) 14:42:19 booting up 14:42:35 oooh, block editor :D 14:43:48 I love blocks :) 14:43:49 --- join: T0paz (~top@sown-86.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 14:43:57 --- quit: Topaz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:44:06 it failed /= 14:44:11 :( 14:44:34 How far did it get? 14:44:37 but it says RETRO7: Loading Kernel... FAILED! 14:44:41 ahh 14:44:51 The boot sector is kind of flakey :( 14:45:10 * saon has a look for himself 14:47:32 blah, i don't know enough assembler to know what i'm doing 14:47:39 heh 14:47:46 16-bit assembler sucks 14:49:57 this is going to be the oldschool box for the computer club at school :) 14:50:28 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 14:50:30 is there a way to install to the hd from inside retroforth once it's booted from floppy? 14:50:36 Not yet 14:50:52 I'm considering that for retro8 14:51:01 that'd be nice 14:51:20 I could do it, but you'd lose all data on the hard drive at the moment 14:51:28 the only reason i ask is because i can't put the floppy image on the hd easily on this old machine 14:51:51 Would GRUB work on that box? 14:52:07 hrmmm, i doubt it 14:52:12 although i haven't tried 14:52:13 hmm 14:52:18 it's running minix right now 14:52:29 no bootloader other than that 14:52:29 * crc plans to do a GRUB-bootable version soon... 14:52:43 I'm not familiar with minix 14:54:04 I could probably do a DOS compatible loader 14:54:53 crc, how do you do recursion in rf? 14:55:09 Use the name of the word being defined 14:55:15 : foo ... foo ... ; 14:58:17 ...oops 14:58:22 *resets system* 14:58:25 Are you using minix-386 ? 14:58:37 i suppose, it's ver 2.0 14:58:51 hmm 14:59:01 * crc contemplates porting retroforth to minix... 15:00:56 how buggy is retroforth native in 7.6? 15:01:03 Not very 15:01:28 i just made a new word ": to5 dup 5 dep? 15:01:49 erm, dup 15:01:59 typo on my part in chat 15:02:45 and i'v gotten ".?" and "1? (newline) to5?" 15:03:04 i've* 15:03:05 bleh 15:04:20 it works on retroforth on linux, but not an native 15:04:40 hmm 15:04:47 In 7.6 or 8.0? 15:04:58 7.6 15:07:42 Works here 15:07:47 did you use backspace? 15:08:33 i don't think so, maybe though 15:08:38 bbiab 15:09:18 ah, fixed by not using backspace 15:09:34 :) 15:09:39 8.0 supports backspace :) 15:09:43 yay! 15:15:26 http://www.retroforth.org/release/rf671-native.tar.gz 15:15:34 7.6.1 -- with backspace support 15:28:02 --- join: Mavros (~slash@sc395.trin.cam.ac.uk) joined #forth 15:33:25 :D 15:36:30 * saon snuggles crc 15:36:51 it works beautifully 15:37:24 good 15:37:33 I hope it proves helpful 15:37:55 * saon is gonna be hacking forth long into the night tonight 15:38:40 i really like retroforth in general, it's sexy and small, perfect for customizing and building your own custom forth in 15:39:00 esp with the block files and such 15:39:18 I designed it to be flexible and easy to modify :) 15:39:54 :) 15:40:25 * saon is watching hackers 15:45:35 cool 15:50:59 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-035.nyc-tc03a.fcc.net) joined #forth 15:56:48 --- nick: wakojun -> _wakojun 16:00:48 --- part: Mavros left #forth 16:05:19 --- join: raystm22 (~color4th@adsl-69-149-63-57.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 16:06:56 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 16:15:55 --- join: aum (~aum@60-234-138-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 16:17:04 heya aum 16:17:21 hi saon 16:17:56 hiya raystm22, saon and aum 16:18:02 hi tbw 16:19:56 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-64-160-166-175.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 16:21:40 --- quit: raystm22 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 16:25:53 --- quit: T0paz (No route to host) 17:25:15 --- quit: aum () 18:25:35 goodnight 18:27:11 night crc 18:38:57 --- join: samc_ (~sam@203-114-131-66.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 19:21:58 --- join: paf (~paf@MTL-HSE-ppp189025.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 19:31:07 --- quit: saon ("leaving") 19:46:13 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 19:46:14 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:00:30 --- quit: Sonarman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:02:29 --- join: Raystm2 (~Ray@adsl-69-149-63-57.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 20:25:43 --- quit: saon (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:25:43 --- quit: paf (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:25:44 --- quit: Herkamire (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:25:44 --- quit: SeaForth (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:26:24 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 20:26:24 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 20:26:24 --- join: paf (~paf@MTL-HSE-ppp189025.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 20:26:24 --- join: SeaForth (~SeaForth@c-24-1-126-202.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:26:24 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +o Herkamire 20:41:14 --- quit: samc_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:56:34 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 21:01:42 --- join: Raystm2 (~Ray@adsl-69-149-63-57.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 21:47:55 --- quit: _wakojun (Remote closed the connection) 21:56:32 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-67-113-235-225.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 22:10:36 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 22:27:12 --- join: asymptote (~dmesg@68.48.8.92) joined #forth 22:59:54 --- part: asymptote left #forth 23:06:27 --- join: xor7 (~xor7@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 23:56:21 --- quit: paf ("Leaving") 23:58:10 --- quit: Herkamire ("off to bed") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.02.08