00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.12.20 00:51:24 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 01:09:40 --- join: bbls1 (~bbls@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 01:10:06 --- quit: bbls (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:37:12 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:11:29 --- join: Obakeneko (yumehito@giguz.turbo.nsk.su) joined #forth 02:16:09 --- join: Topaz (jonny@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust217.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 02:26:10 --- quit: yumehito (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:28:23 --- quit: Obakeneko (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:31:54 --- join: Serg_penguin (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 02:32:19 re ;) 02:35:26 --- join: yumehito (yumehito@giguz.turbo.nsk.su) joined #forth 03:45:06 Dobryjj den'! 03:45:14 hello 03:47:07 Privet, ASau 04:38:22 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4082712.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 04:43:26 Hi 06:07:19 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:26:12 --- quit: bbls1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:43:45 --- quit: Serg_penguin () 06:48:08 --- quit: I440r (Excess Flood) 06:48:23 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 06:56:39 --- quit: tathi ("booting herkforth") 07:02:44 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:15:19 --- quit: froop ("don't hag me") 08:08:09 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:17:21 --- join: ows (~666@83.132.99.46) joined #forth 08:18:18 --- quit: ows (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:40:40 --- join: froop (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 09:12:13 --- join: Teratogen (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined #forth 09:22:33 Hi, intersection between {Minix users} and {Forthers} 09:25:48 --- join: bbls (~bbls@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 09:26:04 hello 09:34:08 Hi 09:34:17 hi robert 09:41:48 --- join: ows (~666@83.132.99.46) joined #forth 09:42:39 Hi, little devil. 09:42:46 --- quit: ows (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:43:10 --- join: ows (~666@83.132.99.46) joined #forth 09:43:44 --- quit: ows (Connection reset by peer) 09:53:42 --- join: arke (f2@bespin.org) joined #forth 10:28:30 --- quit: saon (Remote closed the connection) 10:34:38 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-64-160-166-9.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 10:36:23 --- join: saon (1000@c-24-129-90-197.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:57:55 --- quit: onetom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:58:07 --- join: onetom (~tom@cab.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 11:02:19 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE00096ba44261-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 11:02:35 Hi 11:04:11 what's up? 11:06:27 i misplaced a word 11:06:33 'see' reports that it exists, but i can't locate the source file 11:07:10 Heh 11:07:29 ah, found it :) 11:07:31 how's your compiler? 11:07:33 slava: grep 11:07:38 slava: grep 11:07:39 slava: grep 11:07:39 slava: grep 11:07:40 slava: grep 11:07:41 :) 11:07:44 ^_^ 11:07:46 Eh. 11:07:47 :)_ 11:07:48 arke, calm down now :) 11:07:49 ^_^ 11:07:50 I think he knows about grep. 11:07:51 robert: teh hies robtrobn 11:07:54 slava: no!!!!!!! 11:07:55 And yes, you need to calm down 11:08:04 Got a little tired of it, now working at a connect-4 game 11:08:06 * slava gives arke some sugar and caffiene 11:08:32 * robert gives arke some meth 11:09:34 yeah ok i dont have internet right hyear hflnl 11:09:34 asihy 11:09:38 no internet ihagb eithis isduvckskor g 11:09:41 hi robtrobz0r 11:09:42 hi slava 11:09:44 how are tou 11:09:47 omg this meth is good 11:09:49 omgwtfbggg 11:26:58 --- quit: bbls (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:30:15 --- quit: arke ("Lost terminal") 11:46:06 --- join: paf (~paf@ip68-2-83-174.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 11:47:30 http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm 11:48:03 hah cool 11:48:57 elite 11:49:23 --- join: ows (~666@83.132.99.46) joined #forth 11:52:06 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:52:33 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 11:53:43 robert: nice. 11:53:48 where's yours? :-P 11:54:19 --- quit: ows (Client Quit) 11:54:58 I'm working at it. ;) 11:55:12 But integration is for the weak. 11:55:34 Real programmers use TO92 (well..I'd use metal case ones if they weren't so expensive! ;) transistors. 11:57:29 heh 12:14:23 --- join: swsch (~stefan@p5091FA5C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:32:12 --- quit: tathi ("brb") 12:33:30 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:57:41 --- join: Sonarman_ (~snofs@adsl-64-171-255-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 13:03:58 --- quit: Sonarman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:52:55 --- join: hrmpf (~obi@195.18.226.13) joined #forth 13:56:19 hrmpf... 13:58:07 yup 14:08:47 --- join: Sonarman (~snofs@adsl-64-169-93-213.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 14:15:52 --- quit: Sonarman_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:37:30 --- join: arke (f2@bespin.org) joined #forth 14:44:10 --- quit: arke ("Lost terminal") 14:47:28 --- quit: ianp (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 14:50:04 --- join: swsch_ (~stefan@swsch.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #forth 14:57:13 --- join: ianp (~ian@inpuj.net) joined #forth 15:04:37 --- quit: slava (Remote closed the connection) 15:06:35 --- quit: swsch (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 15:14:14 hi all 15:21:23 Hi, crc 15:21:44 * robert throws a local variable at crc 15:21:44 anything happening? 15:21:48 Does it burn? 15:21:55 Not much, really. 15:22:01 Planning tomorrow's adventures. 15:22:02 crc ignores the local variable 15:22:08 hmm 15:22:19 * crc says that didn't work right :( 15:23:15 Hehe. 15:23:20 Still in Forth-IRC? 15:24:52 not right now 15:25:07 I'm hacking it to work within my experimental codebase 15:25:19 Do you have networking in retro/native? 15:26:22 Umm 15:26:26 You can use a serial port 15:26:35 No networking protocols are supported (yet) 15:27:18 If you consider direct serial connections to be "networking", then yes 15:27:22 Otherwise no. 15:27:23 :) 15:27:36 Hehe. :) 15:27:43 Implement some protocols, then! 15:28:16 I will after I finish implementing the forth environment 15:28:32 Oh, you're planning to _finish_ it? 15:28:34 Why implement the protocols now, when I'll have to rewrite them in six months? 15:28:37 Yes 15:28:59 (as far as the internal structure and core words go anyway) 15:29:06 Neat. 15:29:13 Hmm... 15:29:22 It's stable, but not as clean as I'd like 15:29:38 In my new codebase, TIB is a normal block for example 15:29:38 I'm getting closer and closer to actually building that transistor computer. 15:29:51 If I get it done, coding a system will be SO much fun. 15:29:51 (blocks are important in the new codebase) 15:29:53 :) 15:30:07 Let me know if you actually build a transistor computer 15:30:24 Don't worry - I will 15:30:27 ;) 15:30:28 * crc never got beyond a few simple ALUs 15:30:47 Using relays and diodes :) 15:30:48 Half the reward would be the right to bitch on IRC, about people not building their CPUs themselves. 15:30:59 hehe 15:31:16 Well, relays are a bit slow... and I don't have any vacuum tubes. 15:31:20 * crc could build a CPU if he could afford the parts + time 15:31:22 (or monster PSUs) 15:54:16 --- join: DanglinDave (~todd@chcgil2-ar7-4-34-138-079.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 15:55:04 Hi DanglinDave 15:58:05 http://www.xess.com/ .. just build it with an fpga. it would be a lot more fun than all that soldering. 15:59:15 i build a 3-bit adder with no carry (2 full adders, 1 half adder) with pneumatics before. that was fun 15:59:48 with a couple thousand pounds more parts i could have made a full ALU 16:00:36 Mark 1 Forth Computer - http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm 16:02:34 Mark's TTL microprocessor - http://www.venturalink.net/~jamesc/ttl/ 16:03:15 I've seen the Mark 1 and Mark's TTL pages 16:03:15 :) 16:09:01 OrngeTide: Using an FPGA would be cheating. 16:09:16 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4082712.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 16:40:53 --- quit: tathi ("laters all") 16:57:06 * swsch_ is away: and sooon asleep 16:58:01 i might make a 4 or 5 bit proc with a massive index register and PC 16:58:21 :) 16:58:30 ie, the bare minimum i can get away with that is still turing complete :P 17:00:39 Yeah, same here. 17:00:40 That page recommended a book from '53 on computer design. 17:00:40 Since it contained some tricks to minimize the number of vaccuum tubes used. 17:00:40 -c 17:01:00 http://www.venturalink.net/~jamesc/ttl/ 17:01:01 :D 17:01:32 --- quit: DanglinDave (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:01:37 Cool, thanks. :) 17:02:24 i wonder if i could get away with only one jump opcode 17:02:35 blatantly could... 17:02:53 yeah, that cpu does 17:02:58 i could just implement skip 17:08:01 :) 17:08:11 My school has that book btw, so tomorrow I'm getting it ;) 17:08:17 haha, cool 17:08:42 Yeah... the advantage of going to a nerd school 17:08:59 They have obscure 50s computer construction literature. 17:09:05 i found 'starting forth' in the uni library ;) 17:09:11 last borrowed in 1992 17:11:04 :D 17:12:58 I coded a Pong game for a computer with similar specs, btw. 17:14:51 froop knows what I'm talking about. ;( 17:17:29 "Space ship has to dodge asteroids that are hurling by. I adjusted the clock to 2 khz for best game speed, which is 500 instructions per second." 17:17:32 Mmmm 17:17:40 That's the kind of dirty talk that turns me on. 17:18:14 "What's that sound?" - "Oh, I downclocked the machine to audio frequencies." 17:19:31 haha 17:20:16 "It was noted that the clock generator could be dispensed with, by clocking the processor with the button presses" 17:21:22 :D 17:31:01 lol 17:32:08 Hi Sonarman 17:33:14 I see you also think this is very exciting! 17:35:01 --- quit: paf ("Leaving") 17:35:28 play pong while transmitting music over shortwave with the processor! 17:35:38 er, longwave 17:36:28 YES 17:36:29 <3 17:39:00 sweet jesus 17:39:31 asteroids in that instruction set 17:39:35 :D :D :D 17:40:02 ah, not quite as bad as i thought 17:40:18 i didn't read carefully, i thought i was looking at a fixed instruction format w/o parameters 17:55:42 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 17:56:14 ypn is far too serious 17:56:18 oh, hello arke 17:56:49 hi arke 17:56:51 ypn? lol 17:56:56 #ypn is a joke 17:57:13 it's a vibrant community 17:59:21 I'm sorry, but any "community" involving both Sonarman and kunphuzil is a horny teenage disaster ^_^ 17:59:32 (hey, i used to be a ypner gime a break :)) 17:59:53 :> 18:00:02 it's a sexy disaster 18:00:44 so, what are the latest projects 18:00:54 for me? 18:01:07 F2, and making a better mandelbrot for CF 18:01:26 cool 18:01:45 hacking with a real cf boot? 18:03:31 yessir :) 18:03:39 --- join: hefner (~hefner@pool-151-196-127-31.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 18:03:49 mark slicker's VESA image works on every computer ive tried it on so far 18:04:38 that's awesome 18:04:57 i suppose it must also work in bochs, then 18:05:08 it might, haven't tried. 18:05:55 I prefer running it native, because the intrinsic design of colorforth does need a CPU that is constantly running (doesnt have to be spectactularly fast CPU, just has to always be doing something) 18:06:06 gotta run now, though. 18:06:09 adios :) 18:06:26 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 18:06:33 if i had a second monitor, i'd try it f'rreal on a 386, but don't. all is sad 18:06:48 ah, see you about 18:06:48 merry christmas and shit 18:06:53 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 18:16:30 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC") 18:17:44 mark slicker's image doesn't work on my laptop :( 18:46:49 goodnight 18:55:26 --- quit: Topaz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:00:14 --- quit: OrngeTide ("Changing server") 19:44:34 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 19:52:42 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20:38:28 --- join: wandelf (~Olorin@h103.44.40.69.ip.alltel.net) joined #forth 21:17:23 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 22:08:35 --- quit: arke ("OMGWTFBBQ") 22:14:01 --- join: snowrichard (~chatzilla@adsl-69-155-177-153.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 22:14:14 good evening 22:19:51 --- quit: Sonarman (K-lined) 22:24:41 --- part: snowrichard left #forth 22:31:10 --- quit: hefner ("Take California!") 22:39:12 --- join: snowrichard (~chatzilla@adsl-69-155-177-153.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 22:39:17 hello all 22:46:53 --- quit: Herkamire ("bed") 23:16:59 hello 23:17:06 --- part: snowrichard left #forth 23:32:28 --- join: bbls (~bbls@80.97.121.133) joined #forth 23:57:13 --- quit: wandelf ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/04.12.20