00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.11.08 00:01:55 --- quit: Raystm2 (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:01:55 --- quit: Raystm2- (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:02:26 --- join: Raystm2- (Rastm2@AC8D909F.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 00:02:26 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC8D909F.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 00:02:43 --- quit: Raystm2- (K-lined) 00:02:43 --- quit: Raystm2 (K-lined) 00:04:33 --- quit: rfbot ("it") 00:12:35 --- quit: swsch_ (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:12:35 --- quit: scope (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:25:48 --- join: swsch_ (~stefan@swsch.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #forth 00:26:18 --- join: rfbot (crc@bespin.org) joined #forth 00:26:18 RetroForth Bot -- Type rfbot: 00:28:28 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:28:34 --- join: crc (crc@16-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 00:31:22 --- join: scope (~junk@njd.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 00:41:26 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 01:43:40 rfbot: .( Jiggy 01:43:41 Klaw: .(? 01:43:42 --- quit: rfbot (Remote closed the connection) 01:43:47 oops 01:44:09 hmm, it finally timed out 01:44:24 it answered first 01:45:41 --- join: rfbot (crc@bespin.org) joined #forth 01:45:41 RetroForth Bot -- Type rfbot: 01:45:44 --- quit: rfbot (Remote closed the connection) 01:45:55 --- join: rfbot (crc@bespin.org) joined #forth 01:45:55 RetroForth Bot -- Type rfbot: 01:46:24 rfbot: .version 01:46:26 crc: RetroForth 7 .5 .1 01:48:06 rfbot: ." dot 01:48:08 Klaw: dot bye 01:48:54 rfbot: ." dot" 01:48:55 crc: dot 01:55:16 --- join: binaryguy (~BINARYGUY@host81-129-65-198.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:02:56 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:06:12 --- quit: binaryguy ("Leaving") 02:08:11 --- join: binaryguy (~BINARYGUY@host81-129-65-198.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:09:19 --- quit: binaryguy (Client Quit) 02:11:11 --- join: binaryguy (~BINARYGUY@host81-129-65-198.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:33:32 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 03:03:53 rfbot: : bob 10 1 do ." ." 2 +loop ; bob cr 03:03:55 Klaw: :rfbot:? do? +loop? do? +loop? 03:04:15 rfbox: ." boop boop a doop" 03:04:19 darr 03:04:23 harr harr harr 03:04:26 I think i'll sleep now 03:05:46 hmm 03:05:59 * crc may need to adjust the persistant data store... 03:06:36 rfbot: : foo 10 repeat ." ." 2 + again ; foo 03:06:37 crc: :rfbot:? do? +loop? 03:06:56 Yup. He needs fixing :-( 03:11:46 --- quit: mur (Remote closed the connection) 03:12:19 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:18:00 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:19:45 eh, lol :p 03:25:42 --- quit: Klaw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:30:01 --- quit: crc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:44:15 --- quit: binaryguy ("Leaving") 05:34:04 --- join: binaryguy (~BINARYGUY@host81-129-65-198.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 05:50:44 --- quit: binaryguy ("Leaving") 06:45:15 --- quit: Stepan ("leaving") 06:51:27 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:00:17 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:25:27 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:37:59 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:05:05 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 08:10:36 rfbot: : test 1+ dup . test ; 0 test 08:10:38 madwork__: :rfbot:? do? +loop? 08:10:51 --- nick: madwork__ -> madwork 08:23:27 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:34:15 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:36:08 --- join: hefner (~hefner@pool-141-157-7-146.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 08:47:39 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 08:56:29 --- join: robert (~robert@c-bf5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 08:58:22 I feel more at home with the lunatics in here than when I'm among people calling me nuts because I dislike bloatware. 09:00:56 the emperor has no clothes 09:01:29 Better that than bloated clothes. 09:01:51 Naked people is always good. 09:01:56 Except perhaps RMS. 09:02:56 robert! 09:03:07 what the hell are you doing lately? :p 09:03:37 i've come to the conclusion that that forth editor is not going to be as simple to create as i thought. 09:03:38 Sleeping and reading 09:03:53 It never is.. 09:04:33 for instance, parsing words like postpone, immediate words, compilation/execution time, etc 09:05:10 Hehe 09:05:21 i've started a small script, that does in fact function fairly ok, untill it met some words that used postpone and ." and uhm, branching words for instance.. 09:05:49 I guess you should do this the chuckish way instead 09:05:55 meaning? 09:05:55 FACTOR UNTIL YOUR FINGERS BLEED 09:06:40 hm 09:06:50 but even with factoring, these issues will remain 09:07:14 --- join: Klaw (~anonymous@c-67-171-207-91.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:08:13 I mean, instead of using such an editor. 09:08:38 no. 09:08:39 never. 09:08:51 i'll create an editor like that 09:09:07 Hehe 09:09:30 right now i screwed up optimizing AGAIN and got sick of debugging 09:09:52 i have a feeling though its not handling my revectoring quite well... 09:09:52 The G compiler is half way done. 09:11:19 ohyeah, when my ehr, exams are over (have 3 exams the coming 3 days), i'm gonna give this one a shot (madgarden came with it) http://home.planet.nl/~maars017/cki/ 09:11:22 ehr 09:11:24 no not that 09:11:57 http://www.allegro.cc/forums/view_thread.php?_id=427371&page=0 09:12:00 thattaone 09:12:01 :) 09:15:02 Heh 09:18:13 i'm gonna do it according to ANSI, which means i'll be doing it in win32forth, bloated and all. 09:19:44 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 09:21:33 since we're facing the limited string lib problem, i'm gonna try and abuse the input system for this ;) read into the TIB and PARSE things out 09:22:44 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:22:54 i discovered that win32forth's parse doesnt move the TIB though, kinda sux. 09:23:13 oh yeah, you need to aim for about 128 chars, last post i read had that 09:46:36 why does it hav eto be in ans forth? 09:46:49 thats like painting yourself in the corner with the rest of the sheeple :) 09:46:54 baaahhhhh 09:47:08 :) 09:47:11 Maybe he likes being alone in the corner? 10:02:06 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 10:05:04 simply because i want to use some kind of basis, and ans is A basis, and win32forth is ans compatible, so that works for me. i dont care what anybody else does it in. do it in machineforth for all i care :\ 10:05:33 YES GOOD IDEA I WILL MAKE A CLUSTER OF 1000 X25 COLLECT JANE FONDAS 10:05:42 you do that 10:05:43 :p 10:06:26 why oh why do I have to work on mondays? 10:06:48 You picked the wrong job 10:06:56 i think I picked A job. 10:07:13 Or the job picked you. 10:07:19 PICK TUCK DROP SWAP JOB 10:07:42 aahhaha 10:08:16 i should just start my own business. that way i'll have to work sunday and saturday as well. then monday's won't seem so bad 10:08:26 Good idea. 10:09:13 what's the plural of monday? mondays, monday's, or mondayes ? 10:09:25 Mondays. 10:09:29 maybe mondaies .. that doesn't look right at all. 10:09:30 oh. okay 10:09:41 But don't trust me, I'm just a dirty foreigner. 10:09:58 eheh. Mondays looks right. 10:10:10 I'm an american, so I don't actually know english. 10:10:16 Hehe 10:10:22 Good excuse, yes 10:10:34 Java is driving me completely mad 10:10:39 * OrngeTide is a product of the US public education system. 10:10:47 java? 10:10:50 Java. 10:11:00 Homework... 10:11:04 i was hacking java last month. 10:11:12 you are taking a java class? hrm 10:11:23 Heh. 10:11:25 Not really.. 10:11:31 I'ts more like compsci ==== jAVA 10:11:39 Java* 10:11:44 I took a pascal class over 10 years ago. :P 10:12:33 ah. i got a 6 figure job instead of doing college. 10:12:45 6 figure? 10:13:12 anything over $100,000-$999,999 is "6-figure" 10:13:17 s/over/between 10:13:29 i'm very low 6-figures. :P 10:13:31 Ah. 10:13:53 Not bad for someone who can't write, I must admit. 10:14:07 evil. 10:14:12 bad robert. 10:14:13 it's funny. i didn't really have enough money to go to college without taking out a bunch of student loans. so I thought I'd work a while and save up. and it turned into a career. 10:14:15 So what is it that you do? 10:14:17 robert, ahha. 10:14:44 --- join: binaryguy (~BINARYGUY@host81-129-70-140.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 10:14:45 I hack C for kernels. mostly real-time and high-availabilty systems 10:15:06 Ah, so C is the future. /me takes notes ;) 10:15:10 * mur is not available 10:15:13 * mur is taken 10:15:19 * robert takes mur 10:15:27 robert, you can't 10:15:35 Want to bet? 10:15:39 "availability" .. i fat fingered that one. 10:15:40 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:15:54 robert, oh, forgot you are swedish ;) 10:15:57 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC9F662C.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 10:16:12 Hi binaryguy + tathi + Raystm2 10:16:18 hi 10:16:30 I've been hacking C for 8 years, I'm still 5 figures. :( 10:16:31 hi Robert 10:16:37 robert, C really sucks. but I wrote a library for doing continuations in C (posix required) 10:17:28 s/continuations/coroutines 10:17:33 Hi Robert - tathi - OrngeTide - binaryguy ! Here's to hoping you all are well !! /me raised dr pepper. 10:17:35 i don't think java can do coroutines at all. 10:17:44 forth can though. 10:18:10 thats cause forth can do anything :) 10:18:17 madwork, well i don't make 6 figures anymore. i was making that much when i first started. but then the dot-com bubble burst and I'm doing 5 figures again. 10:18:51 oh hi madwork too :) 10:18:57 Lucky me, I missed the bubble completely. :P 10:18:59 Hi! 10:19:05 i like weird things in forth, like static typing. which is kind of hard to do on a forth. (it has been done though) 10:19:47 the bubble hit me alright, made unemployed twice in a year :( 10:19:53 3dfx and CCC 10:20:13 there is a 3dfx building a block away from me... 10:20:47 we need to join forces with that guy that went into space and the virgin records guy to provide the future space devices :) 10:20:48 i think it's abandoned though. i never see any cars there 10:21:23 i worked in the belfast branch, 3dfx got screwed big time by nvidia :( 10:21:29 Raystm2, you should make some flight computers for the private space industry. 10:21:43 binaryguy, nvidia totally gutted the company. 10:22:12 very true, and very sad :( but there is at least x3dfx.com :) 10:22:15 of course 3dfx would have been in trouble anyways. 10:22:26 thats true too 10:22:33 marketing and sales sucked 10:22:53 i remember my first voodoo card. 10:23:08 ahh those where the days :) 10:23:32 hrm.. what is x-3dfx.com ? 10:24:05 it was setup by all of us in belfast who where done by 3dfx 10:24:18 though we were threatened by nvidia to not use that name 10:24:34 ya. i didn't have to go to lan parties and play quake at 320x200. although the better graphics didn't really make me play any better. :P 10:25:13 nor me ;-) 10:25:17 :) 10:25:51 turns out better sound devices and headphones help in 3d shooters 10:26:03 totally. 10:26:16 no can sneak up on u anymore :) 10:26:18 although counterstrike:source is easier because you have real shadows. 10:26:28 cool 10:26:33 brb 10:26:58 at lan parties i would listen to other people's computers. so i'd shoot a rocket down a hall and listen for the "echo" to find out where people were hiding. 10:27:10 * OrngeTide is a horrible cheater. 10:27:23 i suppose u camped too :)) 10:27:27 hax00000rr!!!!! 10:27:27 heh 10:27:32 I just look at other people's screens 10:27:38 i camped back when it was okay to camp. 10:27:48 hefner, that's even better. :) 10:27:56 it's okay to camp in counterstrike... 10:28:18 ever play Far Cry? That's the most shameless camping game ever. 10:28:35 Hi hefner ;) 10:28:37 if it were real life I'd totally camp. i'd lock myself in a cupboard and never come out. and just hope i wasn't hit by stray gunfire. 10:28:41 hello, Raystm2 10:29:00 LOL! 10:29:09 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:29:12 hi qFox :) 10:29:18 hi saon 10:29:26 hey 10:29:27 Hi saon 10:29:39 hello 10:29:43 hey robert 10:29:47 and what is everyone working on today? 10:29:53 Homework 10:29:57 i'm working on ircing. 10:30:01 They wasted an entirey day 10:30:05 For me 10:30:14 I'm doing a chess for the rfbot :) 10:30:16 setting up debian testing 10:30:17 With totally worthless java exercises 10:30:35 --- quit: robert ("...") 10:30:36 what happened to the good old days of teaching compsci with Lisp? Java isn't a very complete language, imo 10:30:42 * saon installed a second dvd drive in his linux box and configured his webcam 10:30:47 seeing as colorforth chess went over so well. 10:31:06 officially i'm staying home sick 10:31:19 i should stay home sick every monday. 10:31:40 OrngeTide : and lower the heartattack rate . 10:32:03 well i have a meeting in a few minutes :( .. ttyl. 10:32:22 cya OrngeTide : good luck in meeting 10:32:38 "software engineering" has very little to do with programming and everything to do with going to meetings. 10:32:45 hehe 10:34:14 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 10:35:02 for the rfbot chess I'll have to learn retroforth first so it'll get a chess -- then soon we can all play in query chats. 10:37:06 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:37:09 --- join: Raystm2- (Rastm2@AC9A773C.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 10:37:28 doh 10:37:48 --- nick: Raystm2- -> Raystm2 10:38:04 incoming phone call kicked me -- oops 10:44:53 lol 10:45:55 qFox: after talking with crc I sorta started another project -- so hows the challenge coming then? 10:46:06 are you getting it. 10:46:08 ? 10:46:30 i have 3 exams coming, the next 3 days, i forbid myself to work on the challange until thursday 10:46:47 ah don't blame ya! 10:46:59 studying then? 10:47:12 yeh 10:47:27 stupid dawson 10:47:34 hehe 10:47:55 "understanding cognitive science", its more like understanding difficult english where it doesnt need to be. 10:48:19 yeh. 10:48:34 thats academia for u :) 10:48:43 :( 10:48:54 I like macademia better. 10:49:14 :) 10:49:47 I perfer to only study what I'm interested in -- while eating cookies. 10:50:04 oh, but this IS what i'm intrested in 10:50:08 cognitive AI 10:50:18 (just read "real" AI there...) 10:51:03 ya -- ( read mine as an afront to academia and not cogn scie which I too am interested in ) 10:51:27 especially as it pertains to chess lately. 10:52:18 * Raystm2 pulls up Dawsons site in Alberta. 10:52:50 hehe only 4340 visitors in 2 years :) 10:55:41 checking phone messages will return shortly :)\ 10:55:44 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 10:56:53 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 11:06:27 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 11:06:27 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 11:09:19 --- quit: wincent (Remote closed the connection) 11:26:24 --- quit: Klaw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:38:50 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC899559.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 12:24:04 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 12:34:23 anybody around? 12:34:37 can someone build this for me: http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~maslicke/colorforth/XcolorForth.tar.gz 12:35:07 real easy. just need linux, and do: 12:35:09 wget http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~maslicke/colorforth/XcolorForth.tar.gz 12:35:16 tar -xzf XcolorForth.tar.gz 12:35:20 cd XcolorForth 12:35:22 ./compile 12:35:24 cd .. 12:35:39 tar -czf XcolorForth-bin.tar.gz 12:35:51 oops, that last line is: 12:35:56 tar -czf XcolorForth-bin.tar.gz XcolorForth 12:39:41 hi herk! 12:41:27 hi OrngeTide 12:47:25 --- join: Topaz (~top@sown-86.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 12:49:17 --- join: PurpleHaze (~purplehaz@haddock.cd.chalmers.se) joined #forth 13:17:04 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 13:22:47 Herkamire, any results from your query yet? if not, I can tackle it now. 13:31:26 swsch_: none 13:31:49 ok, take a look at http://xss.de/@home way down at the bottom of the page 13:32:26 thankyou! 13:32:40 does it work? 13:32:57 I tried one of the colorforth's out there and it made my vmware barf. 13:35:07 --- quit: binaryguy ("Leaving") 13:35:38 swsch_: can I have your /lib/ld-linux.so.2 also? 13:35:57 I can also provide a kidney :-) 13:36:00 brb 13:36:05 hehe 13:36:12 haha 13:37:45 same page 13:38:50 thanks 13:39:36 oh well. 13:39:37 I'll be around for about half an hour, just in case ... 13:39:42 oh well? 13:39:44 swsch_: what package installed /lib/ld-linux.so.2? 13:40:01 not enough time to do the kidney then :) 13:40:05 I'm not all that farmilliar with the emulator (qemu) 13:40:18 I don't know which architecture libs are supposed to be compiled for 13:40:51 apt-file tells me it was libc6 13:43:24 huh 13:43:46 is huh better or worse than oh well? 13:44:26 dunno 13:44:38 qemu at first said it couldn't find /lib/ld-linux.so.2 13:44:49 I put yours there, and it got a segfault 13:45:07 perhaps it's looking for *your* ld-linux? 13:45:08 (cf segfaulted not qemu) 13:45:19 yeah, maybe the lib should be for my architecture 13:45:35 but I don't have any ld-linux 13:46:05 maybe it's part of a newer glibc? 13:46:50 what are you running? OS/X 13:47:24 ahh, that's better 13:47:28 Freudian typo ... OS/2 OS X confusing :-) 13:47:29 no, linux 13:47:30 on ppc 13:47:52 better? 13:48:12 I made a symbolic link ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.2.5.so 13:48:26 now it says "unable to load interpreter" 13:48:28 that's progress 13:48:32 :-) 13:48:43 which kind of ppc? 13:49:33 G4 13:52:28 that's a message from ld- 13:54:29 mmm... think I'll give up now 13:54:33 swsch_: thanks for your help 13:54:47 you're welcome 13:54:58 better luck next time .-) 13:59:23 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:32:40 --- join: robert (~purple@c-bf5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 14:58:04 OK... what could the teacher mean by "solve the searching problem in Java"? 15:02:36 anything 15:03:34 Yes... 15:12:41 So.... now these Java exercises wasted my entire day. Guess I'll have to use an axe to get a good enough revenge... 15:46:50 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 16:08:38 --- join: Sonarman (~robert@adsl-209-233-52-88.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 16:10:25 Hi Sonarman 16:10:35 hi 16:10:57 --- quit: swsch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:11:09 hi robert 16:11:24 How is...your project? 16:11:27 you seem... reduced without your capital R 16:11:32 --- nick: robert -> sm0ysr 16:11:41 --- join: swsch_ (~stefan@swsch.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) joined #forth 16:11:41 um... project? it's um... going fine 16:12:13 Hooray! 16:12:26 I _am_ reduced. 16:12:53 why are you not in the Channel for Laming? 16:13:05 well, i'll just have to oxidate you, then 16:13:08 I'm not in many channels today. 16:14:11 is there any specific reason for that? and why are you reduced? 16:15:02 Running from a different irssi config. 16:15:11 ah, yes 16:15:13 they can be scary 16:16:10 * sm0ysr is trying to design a decent object system for G. 16:16:19 what do you plan to use the object system for? 16:17:04 Various things. First of all to interface hardware drivers. Second, to connect processes to. 16:17:18 And of course also to modularize things a bit. 16:17:35 hmm, cool 16:17:52 are you going to support late binding? 16:17:55 Oh, nice, you're not bitching about me implementing an object system. 16:18:00 Which is..? :) 16:18:37 well, let's say you have a class Foo 16:18:55 and you have a word that calls a method of Foo, Bar 16:19:22 now let's say you have a subclass of Foo that implements its own version of Bar 16:19:40 erm 16:20:28 well, do you plan to allow subclasses to override methods and for instances of those subclasses to be passed to words that expect instances of the superclass? 16:22:26 e.g., would you be able to have a Stream class, then FileStream and NetworkStream subclasses that implement their own versions of Read andn Write? in order to allow a word to just work with a Stream of either subclass, you'd need to have a method table which is accessed at runtime 16:22:30 and that's late binding 16:22:58 i apologize for the convolution of my "explanation" 16:23:07 Hmmm... I was thinking about that, but probably not. 16:23:28 ok 16:23:32 As I won't be doing textbook OO examples. 16:23:43 anyway, i'm hungry. bbl, but please keep talking. i'm interested :) 16:23:44 But if I can find an efficient way to do it, sure. 16:23:50 OK. 16:24:34 Currently I'm leaning towards implementing a common "message" function for a class, so that other words can pass messages, and that word decides what to do with them. 16:24:49 But doing this automagically would probably be better, in some ways. 16:34:37 * sm0ysr is still thinking about this. 16:35:40 --- join: ows (~ows@a81-84-114-211.netcabo.pt) joined #forth 16:37:59 Hi ows 16:39:33 Hi 17:26:20 --- join: hefner_ (~hefner@pool-151-196-40-51.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 17:32:51 --- quit: hefner (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:39:51 --- nick: hefner_ -> hefner 18:04:50 --- quit: ows ("Client Exiting") 18:33:28 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:37:31 --- join: WhidbeyIslndr (~ulicip@pm129.focal.isomedia.com) joined #forth 18:40:35 anyone in here listening? 18:42:03 Yes 18:42:45 hi, I was trying to chat with hyrax but he may be busy. 18:43:46 have ya tried /msg directly to hyrax? 18:44:17 gee, it has been about 6 years since I used irc :) 18:44:50 so I wasn't quite sure of the syntax, but my client allows me to initiate a private chat by picking the nick from the user list. 18:45:22 anyway, is everyone here into forth? 18:45:51 yup. pretty much -- have you ever tried colorforth? 18:45:51 I think so. 18:46:20 nope. I downloaded some version of forth one time but I just didn't know what to do with it. 18:46:22 :) 18:46:32 :) 18:47:01 I used to be into embedded stuff at one time, but I sorta moved towards databases and apps. 18:47:06 well, this is a great place to find out how. several here have there own versions. 18:47:43 might be suprised how well forth works in those arenas also :) 18:48:01 Actually, I wouldn't mind learning it. I wish I knew about this place when I did try forth the first time. 18:48:12 WhidbeyIslndr: Yeah, it's great for learning. 18:48:22 hyrax is responsible for exposing me to 18:48:23 the chat here is approx 2 years old. 18:48:33 forth, but 18:48:54 unfortunately that was about 6 yrs ago. 18:49:10 hehe -- hyrax is a good guy. :) 18:49:12 Raystm2: No, more 18:49:20 I've been here for about 3. 18:49:22 since then I've done more VB (shudder... ) and Oracle... 18:49:34 And I think it existed for a year or two before that. 18:49:38 but here in the PNW, it's pretty much Microsoft territory. 18:49:40 oh thanks sm0ysr 18:50:39 sm0ysr : 1440r claims he started it a year ago? 18:51:14 WhidbeyIslndr: i use windows primarily -- tho I'm learning Debian Linux. 18:52:24 Well, I use Windoze too, mainly cuz I'm lazy :) I did mess around with Linux, Apache, and lately I've gotten into PHP and MySQL... now that's fun database stuff. 18:52:38 sm0ysr: but if 1440r had -- I guess he'd be op wouldn't he :) 18:52:59 WhidbeyIslndr: do you python? 18:53:40 I went to school with hyrax, so some off the stuff rubbed on me... too bad I graduated earlier and didn't get to spend more time around him. 18:54:25 Raystm2: Maybe he re-registered it or something 18:54:36 * Raystm2 is not sure he wants hyrax to rub on him :) 18:54:36 Raystm2: clog has logs several years back 18:54:49 sm0ysr: I'm sure your correct. 18:55:04 no, I don't do python yet. I'm at a stage in life where ... umm how do I explain this... well I spend considerable amounts of time with a baby in my arms at weird hours like 3-6 am 18:55:43 * Raystm2 :) remembers those days fondly -- congrats !! 18:55:53 what did you have. 18:56:03 so my ability to do highly analytical work is definitelly the same as when I actually got sleep. 18:56:12 hehe 18:56:14 I mean is not the same 18:56:21 I got it :) 18:56:38 Raystm was that ? for me? 18:57:12 WhidbeyIslndr: the "what did you have" ? yes :) 18:57:40 What do you mean what did I have? 18:57:42 * Raystm2 is happy for WhidbeyIslndr. 18:58:10 WhidbeyIslndr: the baby -- boy - girl -- twins - litter - ? 18:58:28 haha :) well gettin' close to a litter yeah :) 18:58:38 well, right now I got 2.5 18:58:42 WhidbeyIslndr: time for you to brag about it :) 18:58:56 awh thats wonderful :) 18:59:10 2 girls (ages 4, 1.5) and a third girl due in march) 18:59:23 WhidbeyIslndr: wow!! 18:59:50 yeah, and I grew up with 4 sisters too ... I tell ya... maybe it's in my genes or sumthin. 18:59:58 WhidbeyIslndr: mine are all teenagers -- girl 13 - boy 15 - boy 18. 18:59:58 hehe 19:00:17 where is everyone from? 19:00:26 Near Stockholm. 19:00:35 * Raystm2 is oldest of 10 -- 6 bros. 3 sis. 19:01:07 * Raystm2 is in Fort Worth, Texas -- but from Massachusettes. 19:01:08 Whoa 19:01:12 wow... Raystm2, 19:01:19 I think one of each is more than enough :) 19:01:23 I miss FW 19:01:34 yeah -- to bros. as old as my kids but I've never met them . 19:01:47 WhidbeyIslndr: how long ago in FW? 19:01:51 --- join: zardon (~zardon@S0106000d6151238b.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 19:02:05 well I went to LeTourneau in Longview between 93 and 98 19:02:22 so I spent some time in FW with friends 19:02:44 if I got a job there, I'd move there.... but then I like it here on the island too. 19:02:57 WhidbeyIslndr: ah okay -- island? 19:03:27 yeah, whidbey Island is about 30 miles northwest of Seattle in Puget Sound. I live at the north end of it 19:03:32