00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.10.27 00:36:57 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 00:56:32 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:54:30 --- join: crc (crc@28-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 02:26:11 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 02:27:59 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC9A1DE3.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 02:30:39 --- quit: Raystm2 (Client Quit) 02:31:57 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC9A1DE3.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 02:51:27 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:16:02 --- quit: crc ("Time for bed... Goodnight!") 03:24:44 Dobryjj den'! 03:25:18 And good day to you :) 03:45:49 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:46:57 --- quit: mur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:14:25 --- join: paintcan (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 04:28:56 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:30:52 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 05:03:36 --- quit: imaginator (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:03:36 --- quit: swsch_ (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:04:33 --- join: swsch (~stefan@p5091ECE4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 05:23:14 --- quit: Raystm2 ("phone brb") 05:33:30 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC8FEBF8.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 06:09:17 --- quit: paintcan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:20:10 --- join: I440r (mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 06:36:17 * Robert returns 06:36:46 * Raystm2 says hi Robert :) 06:36:51 Hi Ray 06:37:07 I'm stoked today! 06:38:09 I'm a hobbiest programmer and two programmers that I respect have run my colorforth chess now and said it was good and you can't pop my balloon even if ya felt like trying :) 06:38:48 I havn't slept == thats rare for me :) 06:40:13 Hehehe, congratulations! 06:40:26 What do you usually work with? 06:40:39 thanks. I'm sure you've been there! 06:40:53 very little I'll tell ya. 06:41:07 I like Python -- many lisps and forth :) 06:41:56 what about yourself ? 06:44:57 I looked a little at Python. 06:45:11 Seems nice 06:45:16 Oh, and lisp I've never touched., 06:45:31 * Robert isn't working, but going to school 06:45:51 Oh okay -- what are you studying? 06:46:01 Computers! :) 06:46:52 yea! I wish I could go to school :( never seems to work out. You work in forth tho? 06:47:59 No... they never heard of it. :( 06:48:05 Java right now 06:48:21 okay. 06:48:30 how do ya like it so far ? 06:48:54 I barely tried jython - python in java instead of c. 06:52:29 Robert, If you ever decide that you might like to take an MIT level lisp course, try DR SCHEME. highly recommended. It goes over not just lisp but good programming design in general. 06:52:50 and it's FREE 06:53:00 I've heard about it. 06:53:10 And, hrm.. some day I'll learn lisp. Just not now. :) 06:54:58 Chuck learned lisp from the inventer John McCarthy in the early 60's or late 50's . I can see some similarities 06:55:56 They say Lisp and Forth are the only true extensible languages 06:56:08 Python is sorta like the forth of c imho. 06:56:41 there have been real comparisons somewhere. 06:57:55 what are ya'll working on now in Java? 06:59:59 Mostly pointless exercises 07:00:14 ah -- someday it will pay the bills :) 07:00:17 You know, the "rewrite this non-working class to another non-working class" kind of stuff 07:00:20 Hehe. 07:00:25 Even more pointless than that 07:00:28 hehe 07:01:17 oh you like Floyd ? 07:02:13 Yep! 07:02:27 are you a musician ? 07:02:29 My username does not refer to the color of my hair 07:02:36 Nah. 07:02:38 thank god 07:02:42 Completely tone deaf 07:02:48 hehe 07:02:58 how do you know you like PF then ? 07:03:12 :) 07:03:47 I can play just about all there stuff 07:03:59 Hehe, cool 07:06:39 once at an open mike I mixed the first two parts of DSoftheMoon as the bridge for an Alice n' chains song ( name escapes me -- maybe not A n C ( conversations end ) ) . 07:07:13 two much walking shoes warn thin. -- you know that one. 07:07:31 to much tripping and my heals warn thin. 07:07:43 Hm, never heard any Alice in Chains songs 07:07:46 dykwim 07:08:54 oh man they went so well to gether too. you can here it in your head they're so similar. infact that' s how I did it . it' was totaly Freudian slip on stage and I just went with it. :) 07:09:25 and the band followed and we always did it that way. 07:09:37 Hehe, what do you play? 07:10:21 just about anything I can get my hands on for 10 min of practice -- really no sh*t -- you'd think I was going somewhere but alas no. 07:10:31 God kvaell! 07:10:46 Hello ASau. 07:11:04 Privet :) 07:11:16 Raystm2, I think Scheme is a lot cleaner than modern Common Lisp. 07:11:29 last album I was on I played most of the instruments . 07:11:32 I wouldn't recommend anyone try latter. 07:12:02 ASau : agreed Common was so much that I passed on it for scheme :) 07:12:04 Though Lisp is fine. 07:12:10 yes ! 07:13:04 and that DR Scheme course free from MIT : design patterns or some such : is excellent . 07:13:33 great for a hobbies like me : at my level :) 07:14:11 --- part: Serg_penguin left #forth 07:15:03 Oh Robert I don't have a lip or lungs for horns tho :(\ 07:15:41 Aww 07:17:11 yeah shame huh :) 07:17:26 * Raystm2 hides head in hands 07:18:55 trash day brb 15 min :) 07:22:00 cool my wife must have done the trash on way to work this morning :) 07:22:17 I knew I liked her :) 07:23:04 If you get the opertunity -- marry a swede :) 07:28:39 Note taken 07:31:46 Yeah she's my Swe-de-pie. Are ya married Robert? 07:32:01 I'm 18 and a computer geek. Have a guess. 07:32:13 ha ha lol 07:33:07 you won't have trouble attracting girls when your income gets to Gates*1%. :) 07:34:47 What KIND of girls? ;) 07:36:41 turns out that deepends on if you have made a list of the qualities you want in a girl. If you define her, she will appear. just be the kind of guy that kind of girl deserves and your ready. :) 07:48:33 "If you do follow your bliss you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living. When you can see that, you begin to meet people who are in your field of bliss, and they open doors to you. I say, follow your bliss and don't be afraid, and doors will open where you didn't know they were going to be." - Joseph Campbell 07:51:04 "don't be afraid" - easy to say. :)( 07:51:41 we're brought up in fear in this country. there really is less to fear than most think. I'm sure of it. :) 07:52:56 only a small percent of offenders in jail are worth fearing. 07:54:59 we should fear our own driving skills more than we fear others, or what they think. 07:55:26 Well, I do. 07:55:53 most people are so rapped up in themselves that they really don't bother thinking of other people in derogotory ways for very long. 07:56:18 and most forget by the next time they see ya. 07:56:42 they're afraid of what you think 07:56:54 take 'em off the hook early 07:57:04 How? 07:58:06 sincere pleasentries seem to work. be sincere in your greating and they will know you like them. 07:58:18 even if you really don't 07:59:27 who do you know that puts you at ease every time you meet. model that behavior. 08:00:38 your 18 and have plenty of time to work on it :) 08:01:38 :) 08:05:28 have a firm hand shake-- only offer your hand to women that offer it to you -- look straight in the eyes when conversing -- practice openings -- the kind that makes them talk -- listen -- and they will think you are sincere -- some will call you deep. 08:06:10 if they don't already :) 08:07:27 most young men at your age are in the middle of the "deep" phase anyway. you have that edge now. 08:07:29 Some people look uneasy when I stare at them for too long. 08:08:08 don't stare . just look in eyes when you speak and if it is comfortable for them when they speak :) 08:08:48 you'll know . they'll look away. but not when you speak . It makes what you say have more weight. 08:09:36 Just don't think too much about this, or you'll discover that you forgot what you were talking about a minute ago. 08:10:23 * Raystm2 upscroll's real quick :) 08:12:07 Hehe 08:12:44 so colorforth chess is cool huh :) 08:13:18 just might be the tiniest chess in the world ho ho ho ha ha ha 08:14:30 How large is it? 08:14:36 Or..perhaps I should say, how small is it? 08:16:02 18 functions for making the board and moveing - 32 for pieces fits on 3 blocks. but the c4thche2 is on one block. including the os its 160 kb and it would be smaller if only the chesses were on it. 08:16:45 So 3 blocks of code? 08:16:48 no ai yet. 08:17:18 yeah c4thches 3 blocks c4thches2 1 block. 08:17:20 Cool 08:18:34 the first is Icons-graphical and the other can be played in any notepad editor. I discovered while documenting the first one. turned it into the game documenter but it could be used standalone. 08:19:45 the smaller one is 11 lines of code and 13 if you add the players names. 08:20:54 actually I should qualify it as 11 lines of pseudo code. 08:21:44 oh I added to the first one and its 20 lines plus the 32 pieces. 08:23:04 Are you using the self-hosted colorforth or one that is running on another system? 08:23:54 you can see a screen shot of the prototype i did in windows colorforth at -- http://thin.bespin.org/c4th/ -- 08:23:55 both 08:24:41 the jpeg is bigger than the entire image :) 08:24:51 code image that is. 08:25:14 * Robert checks 08:25:15 that jpeg was before I did custom icons for each piece. 08:25:34 Ah, I see. 08:25:39 So it looks better now? 08:25:49 oh yeah much better. 08:25:57 each piece is a chess piece 08:26:06 the board is labled 08:26:16 and not in the corner. 08:27:12 Howerd Oakford and Tim Neitz are working on versions for there own colorforth libraries .. I'm so stoked :) 08:27:48 Tims will be multitasking. 08:28:13 Oh, what will be in the background? 08:28:34 I'm trying to get Sean Pringle interested in it for enth-flux which I'll do next. 08:29:11 Ah, I stole some code from that system. ;) 08:29:17 background task -- anything you want -- like playing with a distant player over the net. 08:29:41 from colorforth ? 08:30:19 oh from enth-flux? 08:30:54 enth-flux == that's some pretty code isn't it? 08:33:19 futhin is hosting that code and if ya see him before I do tell him I wanna update :) seems I keep missing him :) 08:35:37 Well, the code is certainly compact! 08:36:15 yeah that's one tiny os that's fo sho. 08:36:34 have ya ever got it running? 08:37:23 Yep 08:38:25 fun huh? 08:38:36 Well, I didn't use it much 08:38:41 Just had a look 08:39:35 it's hard at first. the chesses are part of an editor tutorial that i'm writing to lessen the editor learning curve so that the environment learning curve can begin. 08:40:29 I take the reader step by step in the editor with the easy chess first , then the bigger one and along the way many of the concepts needed for the environ are covered. 08:40:59 after that it's all about learning pentium op codes . 08:41:47 enth/flux or colorforth editor? 08:41:54 colorforth 08:42:09 but i'll do enth-flux the same way 08:43:04 if ya do the colorforth one first then the enth-flux will be mostly covered-- but I'm thinking that most people will find it easier in enth-flux. 08:44:10 Shit, this Linux boot disk I'm trying to build has run into trouble. The floppy is too small. :( 08:44:17 The "ls" program is 75kB! 08:44:24 hehe 08:44:29 i did not know that :) 08:44:48 It shouldn't have to be more than maybe 4kB. 08:45:29 really? and it has to be part of the kernel? 08:45:54 it can't be added later like from a net install or something. 08:45:58 ? 08:46:56 or gziped? 08:47:19 * Raystm2 is out of his element when it comes to linux :) 08:47:36 I'm getting my first one as we speak. 08:47:53 Well, I'm trying to make a one-disk system. 08:48:02 (or rather, two-disk..one disk is the kernel) 08:48:20 1.44MB just for a few simple programs should be more than enough! 08:48:45 yup. I think you are correct sir. 08:49:05 Too bad you're not in charge of GNU then ;) 08:49:07 ls is a directory lister right? 08:49:16 hehe 08:49:25 Yes 08:49:35 RMS -- not even on his radar I'm sure :) 08:50:22 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-155.nyc-tc03a.fcc.net) joined #forth 08:50:22 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 08:51:02 there is a #linux i just found out. 08:51:07 TheBlueWizard : howdy ! 08:51:34 Raystm2 hiya 08:52:05 Hi TheBlueWizard 08:52:16 How ya been TheBlueWizard. 08:53:39 Cool 08:53:46 asmutils seems like a nice alternative. 08:53:53 * Robert checks how large the binaries are. 08:53:57 Robert hiya 08:54:05 Raystm2: doing ok... 08:54:28 Excellent, also featuring a bootdisk generator script! 08:55:08 Yeah ! there ya go Robert go Robert go Robert :) 08:56:31 Hehe 08:56:37 My 386 will be so happy! 08:56:45 hehe 08:57:00 your bringing it back to life then ? 08:57:13 Actually I did that some time ago 08:57:21 But it currently runs MINIX 2.0.2 and MS-DOS 6.22 08:57:44 MINIX is small but isn't exactly supported by a lot of things. 08:58:03 i almost miss Dos 6.22 it was the best dos . never tryed minix yet :) 08:58:39 if there is a such thing as a best dos :) 08:59:17 * Raystm2 covers tracks doesn't want anybody to know that he sometimes likes M$ products :) 08:59:37 Hehehe 08:59:47 Well, this 386 was my first computer. 09:00:07 Ran 6.0 (so I have a lot of trouble converting to 6.22, after MS had to change their compression format) 09:00:09 yeah when you were 5 right :) 09:00:12 Nah 09:00:16 12 or something. 09:00:20 hehe 09:00:22 * Robert started using computers at old age 09:00:55 lucky my first was a trash 80 that was on display at Radioshack. :) 09:01:34 Hehe 09:01:42 or the pdp11 at school that the wizards ( not you BLUE ) wouldn't let up touch. 09:01:55 Actually, the first computer that I _used_ was an Amiga at school 09:02:02 oh we could play with the card sorter 09:02:03 And after that, a P120 at home. 09:02:19 huh ! that's cool. 09:02:29 But the 386 was my first own one. 09:02:30 (iirc) 09:02:37 The second one I think was the 186 09:02:43 Hrm, or perhaps that was the first one 09:02:50 really ? 09:02:58 Well, either of those 09:03:06 I never evern saw one up close :) 09:03:26 * Robert is proud ;) 09:03:31 Runs CP/M-86 2.1 09:03:50 my first to own was a 486 -- that's cool Robert :) 09:04:40 and you know i know it was faster that my p1 and almost as fast as my p2. stupid software bloat. 09:06:15 Hehe 09:06:41 Forthers should unite and provide a good alternative. 09:07:01 this p4 is cool tho -- after i took out all the crap that compaq did to it. YES!. 09:07:12 --- quit: TheBlueWizard (Nick collision from services.) 09:07:27 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-145.nyc-tc03b.fcc.net) joined #forth 09:07:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 09:07:40 * TheBlueWizard curses his ISP 09:07:50 wb TheBlueWizard :) 09:08:05 you didn't miss anything :) 09:08:24 thanks...nice t' know 09:09:41 Robert: i believe there are several such projects. 09:10:26 and several hosted by folks in this very chat too. 09:11:34 Really, such as? 09:12:09 Most people seem to write a system for their own use mostly 09:12:28 Nothing wrong with that, but it won't get as popular as Linux. ;) 09:12:39 lets see -- 09:12:47 herkamire is one 09:13:05 crc but he's not here right now 09:13:11 Dobry vecer, TheBlueWizard! 09:13:29 --- quit: TheBlueWizard (Nick collision from services.) 09:13:37 slava is slava doing an os out of factor? 09:13:47 He's got afraid. 09:13:47 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-073.nyc-tc03a.FCC.NET) joined #forth 09:13:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 09:13:54 Ha! 09:13:56 * TheBlueWizard is apoplectic 09:14:21 I've started to think you're afraid of me. 09:14:34 hm? 09:14:36 he's back hehe and the only thing you missed this time is ASau saying you were afraid -- yeah ! 09:14:48 Hi mur :) 09:14:49 Privet! 09:14:54 terve 09:14:54 Terve, mur! 09:15:22 ASau: no....I am not threatening anybody here at all....I am *MAD* at my ISP...I got disconnected for maybe 7 times in a row 09:15:39 mur hiya...how's the schooling? 09:15:53 can't really concentrate on it, but else its going just fine 09:16:25 TheBlueWizard : and missed me asking if slava is turning factor into an os 09:16:44 Raystm2, the problem is that Forth based environment have to differ from UNIX very much. 09:17:14 thank you -- i'm new enough to not know that :) 09:17:30 * Raystm2 is a real live newb. 09:17:49 It seems it is much easier to write packet switching environment than any kind of streaming or piping. 09:18:13 * TheBlueWizard stands there in amazement..."live newb? a sight I haven't seen in a long time!" ;) 09:18:37 Stop lookin at me 09:18:45 * TheBlueWizard chuckles 09:19:03 Yesterday I made several notes on multitasking environment. 09:19:15 * Raystm2 is ashamed but not too embarrassed to learn from the best. :) 09:19:22 I can't figure how I can do UNIX-like streaming easy way. 09:20:18 It looks microkernel is Forthers' friend. 09:24:45 # "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - Albert Einstein 09:24:50 # "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein 09:24:55 sorry couldn't resist :) 09:25:07 :) 09:25:57 turns out i'm sorta autodidactic -- do others here share those qualities ? 09:26:55 the bragging lamp is lit if you care to share. 09:29:44 nice quotes....I am sure many of us do teach ourselves some stuff 09:32:02 yes -- I was just reading something that he said the other day like == read about a subject for 15 min a day for 5 years and you just might become the formost authority on that subject. I just now read that Joe Cambell read for 9 hrs a day for 5 years instead of getting his PHD. whoa what he must have known. 09:33:08 Heh 09:33:15 With a good memory, yes. ;) 09:33:28 he makes more sense to me now. 09:33:50 ya Robert true. 09:34:36 BTW, Raystm2, you're not enlisted on http://herkamire.com/jason/forth_channel_personality_types 09:35:04 Newton refused to learn anything he was not interested in and became the most sucsessful scientist ever. 09:35:15 another extreme: take an immersive course...9+ hours straight on a specific subject for maybe 6 months...you'll eventually know it down cold...or get wiped out! :) 09:35:36 ASau : my mistake for omission. I will correct soon :) 09:36:35 wow TheBlueWizard : it makes sense . is that what you did ? 09:36:58 I don't mean get wiped out :) 09:36:58 Is there no poll() syscall in Linux 2.0` 09:36:59 ? 09:37:12 Robert, why care? 09:37:23 ASau: Because asmutils need poll 09:37:38 Do you still have Linux 2.0? 09:37:49 Get real. 09:37:55 I'm going to use it (or 2.2 if I have to...) on the 386 09:38:18 There's no need to use 2.0. 09:39:00 It's a little smaller, but OK, I'll use 2.2 09:39:12 You can compile even 2.6 if you wish. 09:39:17 Eh, no thanks. 09:39:37 The bzimage took almost 1MB with only what I needed for the 386 compiled. 09:39:42 Raystm2: actually I was thinking of language courses, but that can be applied to many other subjects, IMHO. One of my friends, upon entering Foreign Services, was told to take Portugese (sp?) course (which was an immersive course)...went for maybe 6 months or so...she told me afterwards that she can really speak like a native 09:39:49 And that computer is seriously RAM starved. 09:40:07 but it was tough and fast paced, she said 09:40:50 ASau : my omission form the Herk Personnalily type list is due to the fact that every time I take the Briggs Myers Test I get a very different answer. Therefore I will take it every third day for a month and average results. it's the best I can come up with . 09:41:07 to take it a bit more extreme, I heard that there are Hebrew language courses taught in Israel where you have to know how to ask for food on the very first day....or you won't get the food! 09:41:31 Raystm2, are you INTP/INTJ? 09:41:47 sometimes 09:42:29 TheBlueWizard : ack 09:42:55 sometimes I'm also enfp and entp also. 09:43:26 It can vary. like when my daughter is in veiw i get enfp. 09:43:50 when I've been programming for a few days I'm intj 09:44:13 it changes for me and I don't know why. 09:44:22 * TheBlueWizard makes a six-sided die for Raystm2, so he can roll to determine his personality type for the day :) 09:45:13 or the person that i'm dealing with -- like a mirror personallity -- i take my cues from you's. 09:46:00 my mother died when I was six and sometimes my female side is evidently in control. 09:46:21 not sexually thank god but still there . 09:49:54 --- nick: Raystm2 -> kill-a-chat 09:50:23 hi im kill-a-chat. 09:51:27 not funny even in the least ? 09:51:45 --- nick: kill-a-chat -> Raystm2 09:52:18 * Raystm2 is lonely now :( 09:54:14 * TheBlueWizard doesn't know what to say.... 09:54:38 * Raystm2 doesn't know how to blame ya :) 09:56:03 * Raystm2 is not embarrassed though -- pass the 10 sided for my hit points. 09:57:44 um....I wouldn't roll anything for anyone...though I can make some dice :) 09:57:45 thank god for lunch time :) 09:58:12 can you? molds? wax casting? 09:58:43 oragami 09:59:17 no don't do oragami I might get pissed and crush it :) 10:01:09 TheBlueWizard: did you see the Zigzag environment? mined me of tons of six-sideds (word?) all stuck together in an infinite array. 10:01:41 Put me in mind of Heinlein's number of the beast. 10:03:21 nope...don't know about that thing 10:04:12 BTW, if I have right equipments here, I could....likely with wood or moldable plastics 10:04:25 It was that guy that coined Hyperlink and did ( or tryed) the xanadu system. 10:05:14 only this seems to work as a relational database where you change x y z coord to line up the datum. 10:08:37 I understand there is a decent market for hand made die. 10:10:27 perhaps... :) 10:10:53 http://xanadu.com/zigzag/ here it is 10:11:08 its really compelling. 10:11:41 you do the designs on the die and hand it off to the sweatshops :) 10:12:04 feed kids all over the world. 10:13:25 Ted Nelson, that's his name. The name of another programmer that no one respects -- sorta like chuck only crazier. 10:13:41 hmm 10:14:22 well were not nobody and we respect CM but you get my meaning from the glean right? 10:17:44 TheBlueWizard : sorry my mood is from hours of celebrating the fact that I'm a hobbiest programmer working in an experimental os and have just had my first sucsess with a program that two programmers I repect complimented me on. Remember your first "real Date". that's how I feel right now. :) 10:18:42 Like I own the world . should wear off soon as I see my bills in the mail :) 10:19:10 they'll be here in two hours :) sorry. 10:19:41 um....sounds like you got some mood swings, hm? 10:20:32 hehe 10:23:18 --- join: Romeo96 (~Nick@dsl81-215-35547.adsl.ttnet.net.tr) joined #forth 10:23:18 --- part: Romeo96 left #forth 10:34:30 TheBlueWizard: there might be something to that. I had a little rage the other day. shut off everything that used electricity here except the refrigerators ( not completely stupid ) and now today I'm WAY on the other side of that feeling like I love My wifes ex-mother-in-law. Maybe I need to make an appointment , hmmm. 10:35:51 not my ex-wifes mother in law-- you get that right ? 10:39:05 err....I think I follow you....but perhaps seeing a doctor would be a good idea...some people suffer from bipolar disorder, or manic-depressive disorder, etc. Read 10:39:22 * TheBlueWizard grrs at the premature ENTER keypressing 10:39:40 hehe 10:40:09 read what 10:40:35 premature enterjalation ( word?) 10:40:40 err....I think I follow you....but perhaps seeing a doctor would be a good idea...some people suffer from bipolar disorder (aka manic-depressive disorder), etc. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder and more generally, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mood_disorder for further understanding, and see if you experience that 10:40:53 lol 10:41:24 * Raystm2 takes you seriously and follows links 10:41:27 ejaculation would be the word...but enterjaculation is just...um...wonderful! 10:41:53 yeah i know :) 10:42:03 i'm still laughing 10:42:07 of course I can't diagnose anyone...I am totally unqualified to do so...only a professional can do that 10:43:08 yeah I know 10:43:25 thx for links tho :) 10:44:39 np 10:45:17 * Raystm2 is about to look for the new word in Jargon and see if I can convince ESR to add pre-real-usage-alation. 10:47:15 well I'm not suicidal thank your personal diety. 10:49:03 ah....I haven't thought of that!!! yeah, thank goodness! 10:49:51 never was -- want to see how the book ends on its own :) 10:50:06 book? 10:50:18 life= book 10:50:57 i like turning the pages even if the pages all seem to have the same old words on 'em . 10:51:02 oh....um.... 10:55:32 yeah I'm comming to the conlusion that we brains are the universe becoming aware of itself. I don't see "days" anymore. More like the pages in a book that seem to repeat with tiny little difs on each page. 10:56:03 I can wait to read the last page is all I'm saying :) 10:57:43 Yeah debian disk woody four just completed d\ling !! 10:59:19 phone call brb :) 10:59:22 --- part: Raystm2 left #forth 11:13:56 ls 11:13:59 grr 11:18:52 heh 11:19:38 well, gotta go...all bye 11:20:02 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 11:27:24 --- join: Romeo96 (~Nick@dsl81-215-35547.adsl.ttnet.net.tr) joined #forth 11:27:24 --- part: Romeo96 left #forth 11:57:28 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC8FEBF8.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 12:00:05 Raystm2: you want to update the code eh? 12:00:09 just dcc me it :P 12:02:16 great thanks futhin :) 12:02:28 giv a sec wife just got home :) 12:04:09 I gotta figure out how to use png to get an image of the new board. 12:04:17 --- join: Klaw` (~anonymous@c-67-171-207-91.client.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:04:41 but I got a new image and a new html page of the code making more sense. 12:04:55 I hope , that is :) 12:05:06 :) 12:07:05 I saw where you'll be getting connected at home soon :) 12:09:05 yeah 12:15:05 okay here it comes 12:15:15 yay 12:17:18 I still have to get a png image. I'm gonna experiment for a little while , what's your schedual like ? 12:18:26 hmm i guess i'll be on for an hour or two 12:18:47 futhin, Looks like rj_cf is gonna try to get it to multitask and Howerd Oakford Is gonna try and add it to his image :) I couldn't be more Proud :) 12:19:00 yay :) 12:19:18 Okay I'm gonna try the png and if it dont work then I'll be right back -- mayby 20 min ? 12:21:39 see ya 12:21:42 --- part: Raystm2 left #forth 12:51:26 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:52:55 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-65-228-91.c012.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 13:11:31 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:04:01 --- join: ASau_ (~root@83.102.133.66) joined #forth 14:12:33 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:29:20 --- quit: swsch ("Leaving") 15:26:37 --- join: Zymurgy (zymurgy@delgw.delfax.net) joined #forth 15:30:30 Hi 16:30:02 --- join: ows (~ows@a81-84-114-211.netcabo.pt) joined #forth 16:33:13 --- join: Romeo96 (~Nick@dsl81-215-38145.adsl.ttnet.net.tr) joined #forth 16:33:13 --- part: Romeo96 left #forth 16:57:11 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-164-147.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 17:01:55 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@ACC9EAF7.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 17:11:58 --- nick: Raystm2 -> kill-a-chat 17:15:13 --- nick: kill-a-chat -> chatralias 17:16:30 --- nick: chatralias -> Raystm2 17:38:43 --- quit: tathi ("testing...") 17:39:02 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:40:25 --- quit: tathi (Client Quit) 17:54:23 --- quit: ows (Success) 17:58:37 --- nick: Raystm2 -> IdontCare 18:33:42 --- join: ows (~ows@a81-84-114-211.netcabo.pt) joined #forth 18:46:00 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 19:03:06 --- quit: ows ("Client Exiting") 19:13:53 --- quit: Robert (Remote closed the connection) 19:13:59 --- join: Robert (~pink@c-bf5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 19:19:55 --- join: madwork_ (~madgarden@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 19:20:59 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:28:05 --- join: Hyrax (~icechat5@adsl-64-219-100-33.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 19:33:05 --- join: hefner (~hefner@pool-141-157-7-146.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 20:03:59 --- nick: IdontCare -> Raystm2 20:52:42 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 20:53:01 hello I440r 20:53:11 hi dwight :) 20:54:12 heh... had to work on some C++ stuff today at work, will have to finish it up tomorrow. 20:55:17 ick :) 20:55:22 well at least YOUR coding 20:55:23 im not 20:55:26 bleh 20:58:43 Well, the C++ stuff is pretty simple, I just need to wrap some C++ library routines with windows threads (As I'm the only one at work with much windows process threads experience). Some other C++ code will call my code, but I won't have to mess with that layer. My layer is simple enough, and I don't have to test in the large app. I can test it in very small test app. 20:59:28 :) 20:59:39 Windows threads are quite simple though. 21:00:12 cool 21:00:26 i accidently wiped my mirror lo so now im having to recreate it :P 21:00:43 no biggie as long as my landlord doesnt bitch at me for the bandwidth useage :) 21:00:44 Ehh... my eyes are failing me, I though I read "deer tried to run over florida rep. harris" 21:00:53 eh ? 21:00:58 lol 21:01:10 AP news story 21:01:29 lol 21:03:28 will you landlord even notice? 21:05:31 Well, my free windows 2003 evaluation ran out, so I reinstalled. Now I have another 6 months... 21:08:31 he is basically an ISP 21:09:00 he colocates for quite a few companies here 21:09:13 i have a connection here you would be very envious of :) 21:09:19