00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.10.18 00:15:47 --- join: Robert (~pink@c-bf5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 00:22:43 OrngeTide: you want several backbuffers, smaller intermediate buffers for individual windows, uploaded bitmaps (will be larger, too) and so on as well. a single 4000x3000x24bit buffer takes ~36mb, and I expect them to grow.. 00:24:13 OrngeTide: it might also be easier to just push real world -> pixel conversions to hardware - you don't want to mess around with XxY pixel icons anymore, once you have a range from them being sized anything between 1x1cm and 0.005x0.005mm 00:24:23 --- join: bartiosze (bartiosz@hades.t15.ds.pwr.wroc.pl) joined #forth 00:45:56 /set status_format1 *%R* %H%=%@%N%*%S%# %C%+%Q %O%M%A%T %D * 00:46:21 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 00:46:23 sorry :/ 00:46:28 Hehe. 00:46:32 irssi magic? 00:46:41 bx magic :] 00:46:53 People still use that? 00:48:17 I don't know about people but I'm still using it. :] 00:48:50 * Robert pats irssi. 01:11:37 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:14:12 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:58:58 --- join: Herkamir1 (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 01:59:54 --- quit: Herkamire (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:16:59 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:24:42 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:25:53 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com) joined #forth 02:46:37 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 02:57:11 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 03:15:42 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:22:30 --- join: ^moritz (~noni@pD9E1EE5D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 03:22:32 <^moritz> hello 03:26:46 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:35:18 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 03:37:45 --- part: bartiosze left #forth 03:55:15 --- join: crc (crc@102-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 04:19:27 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 04:20:10 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:44:11 --- nick: Herkamir1 -> herkamire 04:44:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o herkamire 05:42:06 --- quit: crc ("Time for bed... Goodnight!") 05:55:39 --- quit: warpzero (Excess Flood) 05:56:25 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 06:02:14 --- join: skylan_ (~sjh@vickesh01-4741.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 06:05:42 --- quit: slava (Remote closed the connection) 06:06:38 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE00096ba44261-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 06:15:11 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 06:17:06 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:23:10 --- quit: skylan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:39:08 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:11:49 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 07:12:22 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:16:31 --- quit: ianp (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:16:40 --- join: ianp (~ian@inpuj.net) joined #forth 07:16:40 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +o ianp 07:27:58 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 07:30:34 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@ACD053ED.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 07:31:22 Aloha hoy! 07:32:44 Hi Ray 07:33:36 Good morning, Men! Your mission, should you choose to accept it, will self distruct in 15 seconds. 07:33:37 Hi there Robert, How's things today? :) 07:33:54 Considering a serious lack of sleep, pretty good 07:34:34 my sympathies. I'm right there with ya thou :) 07:39:33 Hehe. Well, food time soon, and after that maybe some Forth 07:43:19 just dl firefox cuz IE6 sh*t the bed. It's just like Netscape, isn't it? 07:43:45 same people I guess. 07:43:52 oh Yeah Mozzila 07:58:59 netscape is still a hack directly on mozilla I believe 07:59:55 * Robert is using Firefox, and it works pretty well 08:00:23 I just love it so far. (wipes off screen ) ;) 08:01:01 I've been having lots of little problems with it. but it seems to work well for most people 08:01:20 currently the popup blocker seems to be out to get me 08:01:30 yeah but your a Power user Herkamire. 08:01:45 it blocks all kinds of things that don't pop up windows. even though I turned off the popup blocker in the prefs 08:01:45 in a room of power users. 08:02:08 maybe get a re-dl. 08:05:23 I tried reinstalling it 08:05:27 it's just buggy 08:06:01 yeah, bound to be, I guess. they shoulda called us :) 08:06:55 hell, even I can write buggy code, if I have too. :) 08:15:20 shouldn't be this buggy 08:15:40 eg the launcher script should always work 08:15:53 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:15:59 and the preferences should work. 08:16:29 when they make an obnocious feature that pops up dialog boxes, or declines to do anything when you click a link, then the preference to turn it off should work. 08:16:52 it's not the real techie stuff. it's basics that don't work. 08:17:01 it doesn't always quit when you hit ^q 08:17:57 Have you told them yet. 08:18:07 ? that was a question . 08:22:13 --- join: ok (r@core-dc-1-125.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined #forth 08:22:27 Fnixth. 08:22:50 ? 08:23:20 unix forth i bet, 08:23:23 Ixnorp groostrobble. 08:23:25 aye 08:23:30 or an forth like unix 08:23:37 comp.lang.forth for a taste 08:24:23 has the 'fix this unix with forth' sound to it. or a unix embeded in a forth. 08:25:02 all the taste I've had actually. This was harder than I hoped. It started out as an eforth port, but I just LOVE count-cell-prefixed strings and such. 08:25:33 i saw that yesterday how much you love the count. 08:25:36 I embedded my 3-stacker in the Linux kernel. Not this one yet. 08:26:03 cells just make so much more sense than bytes it's ridiculous. 08:26:20 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:26:20 then it should be uforthnix then, right? 08:26:31 too long? 08:26:48 or lu4nix 08:27:28 None is really compelling. Fnixth doesn't set my soul on fire. 08:27:49 or fornixcater :) 08:28:16 The filename is H2sm, Hohensee's 2-stack machine, but there's nothing real Hohensee about the VM itself. 08:28:38 I tend to like fnixth. for the reasons I said above. 08:28:42 oh I see. 08:29:25 Different strings aren't really a new VM 08:29:42 whereas H3sm is a new VM 08:30:13 OK, Fnixth wins by a landslide with one vote 08:30:30 every vote counts 08:31:21 anyway I just wanted to show SOMETHING. I don't know how far I am from SEE or WORDS or : in this stuff 08:31:23 I like fnixth 08:32:00 2 and the exit poll is claiming an early return winner. 08:32:06 ! 08:32:28 * ok hears Hail To The Fnixth playing 08:33:18 Hail to the fnix-ith the forth with in a linux. Hail to the stacks that always have your back. 08:34:02 What osimplay is about is quite political. Freeing you from the toolchains of GNU 08:34:36 recursive build dependancies. gcc, C compiler required. 08:35:06 bbiab 08:35:24 l 08:35:26 k 08:35:27 even 08:38:26 anybody want any Fnixth stuff? dcc? 08:53:39 --- quit: ok ("ircII EPIC4pre2 cLIeNUX. Can you say that?") 09:15:34 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 09:16:06 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 09:24:54 --- join: warp0x00 (~warpzero@mi166.dn185.umontana.edu) joined #forth 09:36:51 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 09:38:27 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:47:32 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-068-209-159-248.sip.shv.bellsouth.net) joined #forth 10:01:07 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC896DF4.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 10:26:17 --- join: wincent (~wincent@void-109.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de) joined #forth 10:45:04 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 10:45:23 --- quit: wincent (Remote closed the connection) 10:51:13 --- quit: Teratogen ("Leaving") 10:59:13 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:10:04 --- join: mur__ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:10:30 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:12:44 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:29:07 --- nick: mur__ -> mur 11:46:34 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 12:00:22 hmm 12:00:26 sup guys 12:26:47 esss 12:26:52 yesss 12:27:07 time for people to send me money :) 12:27:38 bills aren't so bad when you're the one sending them :) 12:31:07 --- quit: mur (Remote closed the connection) 12:31:18 what's with the ;; then in retroforth? 12:32:08 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 12:56:34 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 12:58:15 herkamire: what are you billing them for/ 13:01:14 --- join: ez4 (~ez4@pcp01518726pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:07:26 --- join: madgarden_ (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576522.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 13:07:27 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:18:47 warp0x00: web hosting 13:19:12 oh, and I did some html work for him too 13:20:22 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 13:26:09 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:36:08 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 13:46:34 --- nick: mur_ -> mur 14:19:05 --- quit: mur (Remote closed the connection) 14:19:40 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 14:29:52 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC921332.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 14:31:15 my fonts are so wacky. i think there is a problem with the default fonts tex to pdf programs use. http://www.orangetide.com/stuff/fontcrap.gif 14:33:48 --- join: futhin (thin@bespin.org) joined #forth 14:33:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +o futhin 14:34:16 and there he is :) 14:34:29 heh 14:34:35 almost didn't get online today :P 14:35:16 hi futhin 14:35:40 hi OrngeTide 14:35:51 --- quit: Baughn ("Lost terminal") 14:36:04 hello there big OT 14:40:00 --- join: Baughn (~svein@cloud.brage.info) joined #forth 14:41:30 --- quit: Baughn (Client Quit) 14:43:13 how's it going for you guys today? 14:43:27 * OrngeTide is reading the docs for Factor. 14:43:54 hmm 14:44:05 i'm waiting for "the humane interface" book 14:44:10 man changed out a firewall -- full system scan-- computer colonospy-- and back in the room :) 14:44:11 hopefully the library gets it tomorrow 14:44:21 yeah futhin ! 14:44:23 i'm gonna sit down with that book and with colorforth 14:44:31 and then i'm gonna code something really stupid ;) 14:44:52 --- join: Baughn (~svein@cloud.brage.info) joined #forth 14:44:54 i've been pondering on the ZUI thing 14:45:07 i think it would be a 2 block program 14:45:08 maybe 3 14:45:16 to have a really simplified zoomable thing.. 14:45:20 dunno 14:45:28 the BOX primitive is coded in asm 14:45:33 so i'll take advantage of that 14:45:36 jef has been getting a lot of forthers interested in THE. i wonder why 14:46:41 well i've told quite a few ppl about the book 14:47:08 including most ppl in the channel 14:47:13 kc5tja, etc 14:47:39 but on the other hand.. THE seems to lend itself naturally to the forth paradigm 14:47:51 its a one layer interface between machine and man 14:48:51 herkamire: how much is your webhosting 14:49:52 warp0x00: want webhosting with an extremely helpful sysadmin? i believe he charges $3 a month 14:52:28 which is hopefully competitive 14:52:37 if you can find a cheaper place, he'll lower his price ;) 14:54:15 futhin, well jef actively tries to sell THE to forthers too. he was at SVFIG a few months ago giving us a presentation on it. 14:54:28 ah yeah 14:54:47 well apparently canon cat was coded in forth 14:55:06 OrngeTide: was chuck moore there too? 14:55:46 the canon cat is really neat. one of the guys brought one in. also jef said he was willing to let any of us at svfig look at the source printouts. :) 14:56:06 cool 14:56:06 futhin, i think chuck has only been to svfig like once in the past 2 years. jeff fox visits once in a while though. 14:56:19 could you get the source and scan it and send it to me? ;) 14:56:31 svfig is actually pretty low on skill level, overall. 14:56:47 futhin, i'd have to ask jef what the copyright status of the canon cat source is. 14:56:58 if he did it as a contractor then probably. 14:57:48 he claims in the products entire life no critical bugs were ever discovered. that's pretty good for a project where the application, bootstrap, kernel and compiler were written from scratch. 14:57:59 or maybe that is why it doesn't have any bugs :) 14:58:04 heh 14:59:45 mmmm... this old threading library I wrote still seems to work. although it gives a couple warnings in valgrind. now I need to see if factor explodes when running inside my threading library. :) 14:59:51 (it probably won't like it one bit) 15:00:18 heh 15:03:14 hrm. yea. it's hating it. 15:03:25 yay 15:03:48 i think it would be easier to put my program inside of factor rather than putting factor inside my program. 15:07:27 is factor forth-like at all? 15:09:51 it's very forth like. but it's also very lisp like. it's certainly high-level. 15:14:06 OrngeTide, what is the problem with the threading library? 15:16:29 futhin: well uh... i wanted to compare his price to my price 15:16:35 ahh 15:16:38 lol 15:16:40 warp0x00: whats your price? 15:16:43 $5 15:16:50 warp0x00: you webhost? 15:16:54 yeah 15:16:58 lol 15:17:08 just to help share the cost of my colo though 15:17:16 not to actually make money 15:17:23 ah 15:17:37 well my friend is using 1on1 or whatever its called 15:17:38 1something1 15:17:46 paying 35 bucks a month 15:17:47 im using a local service 15:18:03 and its got 10 gigs hdd, 100 gig bandwidth or something 15:18:09 can't remember but its a really good deal 15:18:36 ah 15:18:42 i only ahve 10GB of bandwidth 15:18:46 and i pay $25 15:18:50 but its my own hardware 15:18:56 and only a few miles from my house 15:19:44 ah 15:20:17 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 15:23:08 --- part: imaginator left #forth 16:01:25 herkamire, thanks for contributing to the wiki 16:09:50 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 16:12:42 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-142.nyc-tc03b.fcc.net) joined #forth 16:12:42 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 16:13:10 T H E B L U E W I Z A R D hath arive ed. 16:13:57 * TheBlueWizard bows gracefully 16:14:01 slava: :) no problem 16:14:09 yes, I have...and hiya to all 16:14:21 How's the haps Big Blue? 16:14:31 slava: I put in a question some place, and in one place just replaced something :) 16:15:12 page about stack vs variables and good factoring (or was in forth philosophy) respectively 16:15:33 Raystm2: spent a good portion of the day downloading gobs of stuff :) 16:16:13 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-164-238.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 16:16:38 slava: cool wiki btw 16:17:35 whadya git? 16:19:11 <^moritz> which wiki are you talking about? 16:19:58 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:20:04 --- quit: warp0x00 ("leaving") 16:21:26 ^moritz, factor.sf.net/wiki/ 16:21:36 TheBlueWizzard : whadya git ? 16:21:46 <^moritz> thanks 16:22:19 Raystm2: oh, a lot of various stuff...too numerous to list :P 16:22:27 mostly source code though 16:22:40 hey ho there Mr. Factor. yes slava's wiki is the bomb. 16:22:50 hi Mr. ColorForth :) 16:22:54 he he 16:22:57 I wish 16:23:15 well you seem to do a lot of stuff with c4th 16:23:27 but you are Mr Factor. I saw it on the box next to Mr coffee :) 16:23:40 mr coffee? 16:24:13 Ya Joe Dimagio sold coffee makers in US in 'seventies 16:25:17 called Mr Coffee. 16:27:40 Joe Dimagio was a husband of Marilyn Monroe and a Big baseball star here at that time :) 16:27:53 Baseball is a game played on a diamond :) 16:28:06 i know:) 16:28:46 he he 16:36:23 I did two versions of chess and working on a third that uses jumptables -- that's all , I really don't know enough yet to be a Mr colorForth yet :( 16:39:00 thou write one program in that environment and your program is a higher percentage of the total environment -- even just 3 blocks, -- than say a comparable program in another environment. that's fo sho. 16:40:07 --- nick: skylan_ -> skylan 16:40:20 lan of the sky! 16:44:56 hmm 16:44:59 ok i'm gonna go 16:45:07 You know futhin. I'm looking at an ascii chart and cant 16:45:19 figure out what goes where in cf :) 16:45:24 Your going ? 16:45:26 yeah me too heh 16:45:43 yeah.. 16:45:46 --- join: swsch__ (~stefan@p5091E5A5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 16:45:48 Raystm2, do you understand the cf source? 16:45:49 seems like I'm off by one 16:45:59 really? only by 1? 16:46:08 some what do ya need -- it's souceless you know :) 16:47:02 yeah like that num we had ealier 64767062 16:47:13 well 65 = e 16:47:31 so maybe 'string' is 0? 16:48:11 oh I must be counting wrong :) 16:49:34 slava -- what can I help with ? 16:49:48 1@ ff and ; 16:50:24 l@ ? 16:50:45 see I didn't take it far enough then . the 1@ is a move statement 8ahex = some kinda move 16:50:58 the a mask 16:50:59 : 1@ 8aH 2, ; 16:51:05 yeah 16:51:33 yaeh we don't know waht the mov is 16:51:39 so we don't know how 2, fits into that ;) 16:51:40 heh 16:52:10 2? 16:52:17 2, 16:52:23 2! 16:52:30 lol slava 16:53:18 oh that 2, is a word that stores the word in mem right where ever its called. 16:53:25 Raystm2: 8a 2, ; if something is getting moved then what is 2, storing? 16:53:34 yup 16:53:57 stores an bitsword not forth word 16:54:06 16 bits 16:54:06 so , stores 8 bits 2, stories 16 bits ok 16:54:14 what about a dw? 16:54:17 4, ? 16:54:23 now , stors the dw 16:54:29 oh 16:54:34 i was thinking of c, 16:54:37 nevermind :) 16:54:49 its on a macro swap block 16:54:56 for doc 16:54:58 yup :P 16:55:16 block 25 16:56:44 I'm telling ya -- it's really the only lang I've found that the longer you stare at it -- months -- the more sense it makes :) 16:56:57 lol 16:57:09 so what happens when you stare at other langs? 16:57:25 they makes 100% sense first time, then less and less? 16:57:35 of course it helps to talk about it . what happens ? psycho analisiys happens thats what. 16:58:02 slava ha ha . 16:58:12 slava: maybe he means "sense" in the manner of "more sensible language" 16:58:19 I've experianced that in 'c' he he 16:58:40 I440r_: come on and tell me what 8A means already :P 16:58:56 oh pullin up masm 16:59:13 Raystm2: this page is saying 8A 26 is mov ax, b 16:59:26 hmm 16:59:30 so thats what 2, does 16:59:32 well $80 is 128 and $0a is 10 so that must be 138 16:59:55 or %10001010 :) 17:00:01 so 8a 2, is basically "mov ax, " ? 17:00:23 or fetching? 17:00:35 grr stop doing intel opcodes in HEX> tahts totally MORONIC 17:00:36 so its fetching a word instead of a dw? lol 17:00:48 dang mark I don't know how to do that yet . 17:00:59 I440r_: what ? everything is done in hex or binary. octal is dead 17:01:18 they say the same thing about assembler 17:01:20 they are wrong 17:01:22 and so are you 17:01:23 :) 17:01:30 --- quit: swsch_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:01:37 heh i know that octal workds better for dealing with opcodes actually 17:01:40 i saw that stuff that you saw 17:01:50 I didn't :( 17:01:51 that really elegant implementatino ro whatever 17:01:51 actal is useless unless your working with 3-bit fields 17:02:11 and the only 3-bit fields I'm aware of ever using, are file permissions 17:02:21 futhin : I gotta agree 17:02:44 Herk : I gotta agree cuz I don't know how to disagree there :) 17:02:44 maybe 6-bit fields to... 17:02:57 stands to reason 17:03:20 * TheBlueWizard manages to disagree...with himself! Ack! Double-minded!!! Ack! 17:03:27 :) 17:03:29 Raystm2: it seems weird. its mov ax, but its MOV AX and not MOV EAX ? so mabye 1@ is dealing with a word instead of da DW? 17:04:05 yes it only takes the lower part of the dw 17:04:12 TheBlueWizard: lol.. f scott fitzgerald and clausewitz agree that holding two conflicting ideas in your head is a trait of genius ;) 17:04:20 carl von clausewitz 17:04:37 until the ideas war :) 17:04:39 herk x86 opcodes use three bit fields 17:04:52 thats "three" bitfields 17:04:58 hehe 17:05:29 I440r_: how many bits? 17:05:34 Raystm2: so its fetching half of the dw.. which fetchs 6476 ? and then he FF ANDs it so that leaves us with 64? 17:05:47 hehe 17:05:51 gotta be 17:06:01 Raystm2: and 64 is an e? 17:06:02 futhin : that's how I see it 17:06:12 I thought 65 was 17:06:16 2 3 and 3 17:06:36 Raystm2: but what the heck are all the other values in 64 76 70 62 used for ? 17:07:44 64 emit @ ok 17:07:46 lamers 17:07:50 I440r, lol 17:07:53 65 is a :P 17:07:55 lol 17:08:09 I knew that dam 17:08:16 doing ascii in decimal is also dumb 17:08:21 I am counting this wrong 17:08:37 62 is r and 70 is p i believe 17:08:43 e = 69 17:08:48 no 17:08:50 i is 69 17:08:57 er no 17:08:59 your right 17:09:00 wtf 17:09:08 65 is A 17:09:28 and there it is futhin 17:09:29 what do you xor it by to convert it to lowercase? :P 17:09:41 right where it's supposed to be 17:10:38 I440r: a few exceptions...like printing control characters...it would be easier to do it in decimal or the like 17:10:39 the hex values are in order as 6f 74 72 00 69 and 69 is 4th counting 6f as 0th 17:11:59 yeah 17:12:11 then why is there any need for FF AND? 17:12:41 and that's a Cap E by the way 17:14:06 wait a min, FF AND doesn't change the value at all 17:14:32 right it masks out the unneeded part of the bitword 17:14:38 yup 17:14:42 drops whatever is extra.. 17:14:53 the 6e part I assume .. sure :) 17:15:06 we'll crack this nut yet ;) 17:15:16 what 6e part? 17:15:21 tbw no i disagree, working in decimal is tedious. doing ascii in hex is simple 17:15:44 when i get home and run colorforth, i'll remove the FF AND and see what value its masking out ;) 17:16:06 cuz the code doesn't really look like its pasting on anything extra 17:16:14 um.....whatever...it is just easier to consult an ASCII chart for such cases anyway 17:16:31 well except for the fact taht the upper part of EAX is uninitialized.. could have garbage 17:16:45 well I have to assume from our discussion that 1@ feeds in a bitword to move and the ff .... the highest part remember were backwards here and 69 is on the bottom 17:17:08 and most people prefer to look up by decimal because they're more easily recognized 17:17:18 and those values are in decimal not bin 17:17:18 anyway, gotta go...all bye! 17:17:22 or a forth terminal :) 17:17:29 BYE Blue :) 17:17:41 Raystm2 bye 17:17:51 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 17:17:58 not hex values but decimal 17:18:06 do you see that now futhin :) 17:18:36 no I'm wrong jumping around and confusing the issue I guess 17:18:39 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 17:18:40 sorry 17:19:08 well during the mov ax, the upper part of EAX has some random value in it 17:19:19 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 17:19:21 so he masks that afterwards 17:19:24 but thats silly 17:19:34 he should've coded it this way 17:19:49 : 1@ 8a 2, FF and ; 17:19:51 :P 17:20:04 cuz you're gonna want to mask it anwyays 17:20:06 in most cases.. 17:20:12 the upper part of EAX 17:20:22 you're fetching 1 word after all ;) 17:20:46 brb store -- 15 min -- I'm logging :) it is that way 1@ is followed by the code you just said . 17:20:59 virtually the same 17:21:40 gonna email chuck moore 17:21:41 hes masking twice -- once with a register move and once with ff tricky 17:21:53 hmm 17:23:29 I'm gonna stare at it some Moore :) 17:23:41 brb ;) 17:23:50 lol 17:35:52 --- quit: I440r_ (Remote closed the connection) 17:39:12 <^moritz> good night 17:39:15 --- quit: ^moritz () 18:00:15 Ray's back -- stupid store -- had to go to two. :) 18:00:17 --- join: I440r_ (mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 18:21:52 --- join: Sonarman_ (~matt@ppp-66-124-255-253.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 18:37:58 --- quit: Sonarman (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 19:18:39 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:39:39 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-66-124-255-242.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 20:57:13 --- quit: Sonarman_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:08:29 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 21:11:24 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:23:20 --- join: ok (r@core-dc-2-189.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined #forth 21:23:33 21:26:25 5600185 3 85 *+ 21:26:39 wheres my darn ok at 21:26:51 21:26:58 no answer ? 21:27:12 what a lag time :) 21:27:18 must be the net :) 21:27:41 I love that down there and now I will stop so others can see :) 21:27:43 *+? 21:27:43 21:28:19 I had to use Google for FIND 21:28:29 he he 21:29:08 prompt please :) 21:30:17 fellafel. 21:30:29 yum yum 21:34:16 feel awful 21:39:19 ok what do you mean google for find ? 21:39:57 cus ok are an interpeter and google would not return my request 21:40:14 ? 21:40:18 please don't address the prompt directly 21:40:22 :) 21:40:23 ok 21:40:29 lol 21:40:44 so ok is a bot ? 21:40:52 ask him 21:40:59 --- join: [Forth] (mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 21:41:07 therse mine written in isforth hehe 21:41:21 are you a bot okay or are you a bot not ok 21:41:22 but "ok" is a WAY cooler name 21:41:53 agreed can't believer it lasted this long untaken :) 21:41:59 yeah :) 21:42:12 [Forth] 21:42:16 lol i just never thunked of it at all! 21:42:39 [forth] doesnt do anything yet but the pan was to make it a FULLY funcitonal isforth on irc 21:42:45 so you can write in channel programs 21:42:52 --- quit: ez4 ("Quitting!") 21:42:54 not just 1 2 + but : blah ..... ; 21:43:07 never got that far with it, need to get some other things finished first 21:44:05 what is ok written in ? 21:44:28 ok what are you written in ? dna ? 21:45:02 must be taking a piss break 21:45:21