00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.10.12 00:08:57 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 00:09:56 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:17:56 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:19:23 --- quit: Herkamire ("on beyond bedtime") 01:28:31 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:40:34 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:49:09 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 02:49:43 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:05:08 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@203.148.241.62) joined #forth 03:42:24 --- quit: mur (Remote closed the connection) 03:42:58 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:44:17 --- join: crc (crc@78-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 03:51:11 --- quit: onetom (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03:54:11 --- join: onetom (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 03:54:12 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:14:34 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 04:19:53 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:30:32 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:38:37 --- quit: proteusguy ("The #python split is remarkably silly...") 04:56:25 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:56:29 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576522.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 05:17:12 rather quite this morning... 05:22:50 * crc wishes he had a copy of GCC 3.x 05:59:54 Yah, it is quiet... 06:07:20 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 06:07:53 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 06:41:29 --- part: crc left #forth 07:17:33 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:28:34 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:35:38 --- quit: shapr ("focus!") 08:04:31 anyone awake ? 08:04:47 1 08:05:02 you ever work with linked lists ? 08:05:05 no 08:05:12 im redoing the linked list code in isforth which was a bit of a hack 08:05:28 hmmm 08:05:39 ive got a linked list structure that of corse has a pointer to the next, a popinter to the previous nodes 08:06:08 should i make ths structure point to the data its linking or should that data be stored inline with this structure 08:06:10 i.e. 08:06:12 should it be 08:06:34 i dotn know 08:06:35 next , previous , body , or next , previous , body-size allot 08:42:29 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@203.148.241.62) joined #forth 09:00:37 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:04:46 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 09:06:57 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 09:20:55 --- join: Etaoin (~david@cs2428122-78.houston.rr.com) joined #forth 09:34:13 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 09:36:10 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:05:23 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:17:04 --- part: Etaoin left #forth 10:32:34 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 10:36:18 I440r_, is there an i386 assembler for IsForth yet? 10:37:56 --- join: futhin (thin@bespin.org) joined #forth 10:37:56 --- mode: ChanServ set +o futhin 10:40:26 no 10:41:03 me and arke were working on one but he left irc last nite 10:41:13 yea. what was up with that? 10:41:17 so ive no idea where that stands 10:41:44 what were you modeling the assembler syntax after? 10:42:15 well if i follow my design it will worth both prefix and postfix 10:42:30 really? why do the extra work to support both? 10:42:36 im not 10:42:42 i thought it was just gonna be regular "move ax, 1" etc? 10:42:47 oh. how does that work then? 10:42:49 i could care less aobut 5 # eas mov crap 10:43:10 i doing the extra work simply so i dont have to totally recode my existing sources again just to fit a new asembler 10:43:20 and i never liked the bass ackward forth way 10:43:29 it'd be easy to write some code to reparse your sources tho 10:43:41 actually tho the code to accomodate my preferences is VERY small and very simple 10:43:57 ah. i'm not picky about my assemblers. whatever is easiest. I normally use gas over nasm, so we can establish that i already have no taste:) 10:44:09 lol 10:44:12 you suck :P 10:44:31 yea. nasm is probably better. but i'd have to install nasm :) 10:44:42 whats that assembler for linux that is better than nasm? 10:44:47 it's especially easier at work where people freak out if I start adding new tools to the build. 10:44:56 gas is not intened to be used as a gp assembler 10:45:10 yea. but with CPP it works good enough 10:45:18 s/CPP/cpp 10:45:21 thats what its designed for 10:45:25 i dunno why i capitialized that. 10:45:27 its the "Rear end" to the c compiler 10:45:31 and it stinks too 10:45:37 by cpp i mean c preprocessor 10:45:42 ya 10:45:52 you can use gas+m4 too that works out better, but it freaks people out who aren't familiar with m4. 10:46:11 err why obfuscate it further with M4 lol 10:46:23 M4 is very very usefull agreed but its like HORRIBLE 10:46:38 i did some really wild gas macros at my last job that inserted XML debug/tracing info into an elf section. 10:46:48 yea. m4 is insane:) 10:47:29 i'd rather have forth where I can do some immediates to deal with fancy hacks. much better than macros. 10:47:39 exeactly!!! 10:47:43 neway, i gotta go back to work 10:47:49 only came home for lunch :) 10:48:02 --- nick: I440r -> I440r__ 10:48:32 --- join: oyd (~Miranda@80.178.221.186.forward.012.net.il) joined #forth 10:48:52 adios 10:50:02 anyone know what assembler arke uses? 10:52:00 you'll have to explain to me sometime how you do a normal prefix assembler in forth. i'm finding i need to write a very primitive asm in gforth so I can do a metacompiler 10:52:20 i'm guessing either nasm or fasm. those seem to be the most popular 10:52:44 yeah fasm must be it 10:52:56 go with fasm instead of nasm ;) 10:53:01 cuz all my friends say its better than nasm 10:53:50 bah:P 10:54:16 fasm and nasm are both larger and more complicated than IsForth. but IsForth is more powerful. 10:54:29 and that's the case with almost every forth out there. 10:55:28 --- part: oyd left #forth 10:55:46 --- join: oyd (~Miranda@80.178.221.186.forward.012.net.il) joined #forth 11:00:00 http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?VIBE .. vi-like block editor. worked right away in gforth. this is neat! :) 11:01:29 --- quit: fridge ("rock out with your cock out") 11:03:36 yeah kc5tja coded that 11:11:03 small world :P 11:17:51 under what conditions does 9 + -2 = --2? :) 11:18:53 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 11:18:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 11:20:14 futhin, --2 you don't say? 11:21:00 ping on linux used to give times like: 13.-41ms 11:21:14 --2 is far more interesting though. 11:21:45 :) 11:22:06 apparently the conditions are third grade math 11:22:34 but i'm sceptical that a third grader would do two minuses 11:24:52 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:26:55 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 11:42:59 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:44:49 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 11:54:48 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC94803B.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 11:58:11 --- join: swsch (~stefan@p5091E316.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 11:59:24 Announcing ColorForth chess. If you use colorforth and like chess then maybe you might like c4thchess and c4thches2. they are comleted and ready for testing 11:59:41 completed even :) 11:59:57 url? 12:00:14 how many bytes of code? :) 12:00:31 don't have a web site yet but Tim Nieze has offered to host the page and the image :) 12:00:47 oops Nietz 12:01:47 You know slava I havn't figured that out yet but the graphical version only needs 3 blks of code. 12:02:03 :) 12:02:08 colorforth is sexy 12:02:26 1 each for the piece-sides and 1 for the move routines and board 12:03:22 c4thches2 is even smaller really only requiring one blk but that particular game could use a block per move. 12:04:06 Raystm2: could you dcc me the sources? 12:04:16 how are colorforth sources stored? 12:04:25 how about a color web page of the code :0 12:05:14 gimme.. 12:05:20 :) 12:05:23 :) 12:08:28 sent :) 12:08:37 thanks 12:08:42 can you post it somewhere? 12:08:52 slava: yes 12:09:19 bbl tonite 12:09:30 hope you enjoy -- yes slava when I talk to Tim Nietz (rj_cf) he will add to archive :) 12:09:32 http://thin.bespin.org/c4thches2.7z 12:09:50 thanx futhin :) 12:09:59 raystm: um whats this .7z ? thought you were gonna give me webpage of the code? 12:10:56 zipped it with the css page sorry :) 12:11:17 can you unzip it ? 12:12:26 if not i can send just the two pages . the color code really needs its css :) 12:13:38 unzip it with what? 12:13:42 unzip doesn't recognize it 12:14:00 okay here comes unzipped :) 12:15:16 there ya go two sends of the two pages :) 12:16:29 get it okay ? 12:16:39 http://thin.bespin.org/c4th/ 12:16:54 again thank you :) 12:17:25 are we all forbidded to look or just me :) 12:20:59 oops 12:21:03 resend .css 12:21:09 okay 12:21:27 gone 12:23:32 ok i fixed it 12:23:43 should be accessible (might have to refresh) 12:24:12 yeah it looks great, I couldn't be happier, Thank you again futhin :) 12:24:38 i'll leave it there for awhile so feel free to spread that url 12:24:54 want to send me c4thchess too? 12:25:11 oh the image ? 12:26:04 sure -- thou it's been a tiny bit customized to my system but if i send it with text to explain all that I'm sure It would be okay :) 12:26:42 you can have the image now if you like and I'll work on the text this evening . 12:27:48 well thats only if you want to put it up 12:27:54 thought you wanted ppl to test both? 12:28:09 yes please you are correct :) 12:28:13 here it comes 12:29:10 * swsch scratches his head 12:29:21 * futhin scratches swsch's head 12:29:37 * swsch sees noc gw t nnnon o t9s 1073799170 at the beginning 12:29:40 * Raystm2 sends file can't find head 12:30:58 swsch unfortunately the blocks up to 18 are in machine and the cf2html device tries to read it like colorForth. Your mainly concered with blocks past 18. 12:32:28 blocks 0 to 63 are (but for one minor change) exactly as you would recieve form CM. My chesses start around blk 80. 12:32:38 colorforth is scary:P 12:32:48 no if I can do it ;0 12:33:30 * swsch feels stupid 12:33:44 * Raystm2 hides the fact that hes had cf for many years and only recently figured out what to do with only some of it. 12:33:50 how about cutting some stuff from the html? 12:34:43 sure, I only just finished the image and didn't think the interest was gonna be quite there yet . 12:37:04 raystm2: want me to cut out all the blocks from 0 to 63? 12:37:18 or just make a note ? 12:37:40 no please don't I'm prepareing another 'cleaner page as we speak :) 12:38:00 :) 12:39:17 mm.. that was a good vietnamese sandwich. headcheese and pate. 12:41:51 people think i'm strange though. :P 12:42:30 put some lutkafisk and sour kraut on that would ya buddy :) 12:43:15 ehhe. i haven't tried lutkafisk before. i've read about it though. 12:44:27 the swedish side of my family stopped eating it before I was born. :P 12:45:29 futhin there is a better copy that only includes the most important stuf :) 12:46:11 ok 12:46:15 i'm ready 12:46:29 sent : 12:46:47 ? 12:47:03 btw. i found a few forth assemblers that helped me out a lot on the forthfreak site. http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?RASM 12:47:04 prob 12:47:32 i should probably get back to work. took too long of a lunch break. 12:47:37 he he 12:48:11 get it okay futhin ? :) 12:48:41 no 12:48:44 it didn't get sent 12:48:48 try agian 12:48:55 sending okay :) 12:49:12 there ya go 12:49:13 ok got it 12:49:22 quik :) 12:51:01 is 403 :) 12:51:40 oh 12:51:46 tis forboden 12:51:52 fixed 12:51:57 refresh 12:52:21 he he thanx so much futhin, I appreciate this very much :) 12:52:30 np 12:53:41 the css is not linking in ? 12:55:44 dang it i must a broke it when I stripped it sh*zza 12:55:55 fixed that 12:56:56 that's just great man thanks again :) 13:07:41 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 13:21:37 It occurs to be that if you try to code this and don't or can't use the image provided, you will have to either draw your own pieces in the Icons editor or recode the pieced '2emits' so that the hex value is a currently drawn Icon in your system :) 13:22:30 --- quit: skylan (Client Quit) 13:22:51 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 13:22:58 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC") 13:24:17 run arke! run! 13:24:53 Raystm2: got a screenshot of the actual game in progress? 13:26:37 it's a separate os. I might could recode it in the windows version and get a print screen of it. 13:27:36 yeah 13:27:37 heh 13:28:10 give me a few i proto typed it in windows . in fact the windows version uses the normally provided Icons and though pieces look is diff the point gets across. let me see 13:28:19 --- quit: oyd (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 13:30:18 --- quit: clog (Leaving) 13:30:18 --- log: stopped forth/04.10.12 13:30:31 --- log: started forth/04.10.12 13:30:31 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 13:30:31 --- topic: 'Forth: Sorta like Third, only more advanced... and spelled wrong' 13:30:31 --- topic: set by Herkamire on [Sun Oct 10 15:28:42 2004] 13:30:31 --- names: list (clog wossname swsch Raystm2 tgunr @Herkamire @futhin warpzero mur proteusguy madgarden onetom I440r_ @ChanServ oxygene I440r__ Fractal Hyrax cmeme OrngeTide +slava @ianp) 13:42:32 --- join: arke (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 13:42:57 sup arke 13:43:51 just wanted to let you know that I left IRC 13:44:14 cool 13:44:42 will you be on bespin regularly or would i have to email you? 13:44:51 you can reach me by email 13:44:55 k 13:45:06 we can then make out a time to ytalk 13:45:14 yeah 13:45:32 i'm not sure if i'm gonna get internet anytime soon 13:45:36 i got my computers set up 13:45:43 but i'm so much more productive with no internet :) 13:47:09 hehe. 13:52:29 i coded part of a cashflow tracking program that i've been meaning to code for years 13:52:29 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:52:36 and now i think i'll do it in colorforth 13:52:45 so i came to the library to download the cololrforth stuff 13:53:00 as my old hdd went kaput 13:57:00 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14:05:28 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@ACA9BF3D.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 14:05:52 guess I fell off the world there for a bit :) 14:07:45 heh 14:07:49 it happens :) 14:08:08 mouse crash :) 14:08:29 trying to get the image -- looking for imaging software : 14:08:31 --- join: LittleDan (~SIMPLE@roc-66-66-13-211.rochester.rr.com) joined #forth 14:09:44 --- join: oyd (~Miranda@80.178.218.205.forward.012.net.il) joined #forth 14:10:05 where can I find information on StrongForth or some other method of strong/static typing for forth? (google doesn't work) 14:14:20 strongforth.sf.net www.figuk.plus.com/fn2000.htm 14:14:27 google works fine for me.. 14:17:15 LittleDan, check out factor.sf.net 14:17:46 actually factor is strong dynamic typing. 14:17:55 I found the second one, but that gave very little information and a broken link. The first one doesn't work. I found factor, and Slava tells me he's working on a type checker, but I was just hoping I could get other information about it 14:17:56 it's still a neat project though. 14:18:03 yeah, factor is neat 14:18:42 --- part: oyd left #forth 14:25:35 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:30:46 futhin: I've got a clipboard view of the chess board in colorforth but I can't seem to find a way to get the image out of the clip board -- searching web :) 14:31:19 Raystm2: open up mspaint and paste it in there.. 14:31:50 thought i did that but I'll try again thanx 14:31:52 then save the bmp and open up some other picture viewer and save it as a jpg 14:32:03 okay 14:32:40 as a jpg? 14:32:47 tathi: or gif, why? 14:32:52 anythings better than bmp :) 14:32:58 yeah, I suppose. 14:33:04 jpeg was designed for photos though. 14:33:20 pngs are usually better for anything else. 14:33:28 in my experience, anyway... 14:37:17 i like xpms better. they are even bigger than bmps. :) 14:37:41 actually they are small compared to 24-bit bmps if you only use 90 or so colors 14:37:50 heh 14:38:31 xpm is like pnm ppm etc? 14:38:44 no. it's more like xbm. 14:38:50 xpm is actually parsable by a C compiler. :) 14:38:57 oh. 14:39:00 right 14:39:11 and your image looks like ascii art inside a string. it's cool because you can tough up images in a text editor :) 14:39:23 futhin here it comes :) 14:39:45 pnm/ppm are nice too. and the binary formats are no worse than bmp. 14:39:52 --- part: LittleDan left #forth 14:41:27 ok 14:41:50 futhin that is a pic of a prototype that I did in window. I did the final image that you have in native colorForth os. the big diff is that the icons are now drawn pieces :) 14:42:41 ok its up 14:42:44 if you'll notice, instead of coding a custom keyboard I used the editor's keyboard. 14:43:28 thanx futhin! I don't know how I'll repay you. :) 14:52:34 --- quit: futhin ("leaving") 15:17:24 showing daughter new chess have to leave for a while bye :) 15:17:26 --- quit: Raystm2 ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 15:27:17 * swsch falls asleep 15:27:51 * swsch goes to bed to prevent qwertytis 15:32:35 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC870D92.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 15:34:35 * Raystm2 realizes that teen age daughter isn't as interested in chess or colorforth. :) 15:43:44 8-12 seems to be when kids are most interested in chess. 15:44:43 dang I missed it :) 15:45:02 after that hormones blow away any intellectual ability they have. and they usually don't recover and turn into human beings until mid-20s. :) 15:45:31 i was terrible when I was a teenage. and what's sad is that I was better than most. 15:45:35 er.. teenager 15:46:53 having to pay my own rent and cook my own food and wash my own clothes made me realize what an ungrateful little snot I was for like 6 years 15:46:55 tell me. I've done some things in my life but the things my boys get up to. expensive. 15:47:08 he he 15:47:14 hehe. :) 15:47:32 parents forgive their children too easily anyways. 15:47:43 my mom still tries to do my laundry for me when I visit. 15:48:15 I fail misserably alone and always found someone to take care of me. he he. 15:49:15 yea. when i'm alone I just eat ramen and program :) 15:49:51 don't know what i'll do if wife goes first. pretty helpless here . spoiled oldest of 10 kids. like little personnal servants all at your heals . 15:50:01 ahah 15:50:10 10 is a lot! 15:50:37 always had some little kid hanging around . even in the navy. I have 2 brothers that I haven't met yet. 15:50:45 wow 15:51:24 same age as my youngest. been meaning to get home but that boom you all had last decade seemed to pass me by :) 15:51:56 my friend has 6 sisters and 2 brothers. he's planning on not having kids for a while, he never knew what peace and quiet was until he moved out was. 15:52:23 the boom was okay. but i spent all my stock money on rent because I was unemployed for 9 months after that 15:52:33 sympathize there. all those girls dang. 15:52:37 i wish i could've saved it. i wanted to buy a harley 15:53:06 Yeah a lot of that going around too. harley yeah fun machine too :) 15:54:04 lately i've been into getting a kawasaki klr-650. it's cheap and minimalistic.:) 15:54:34 I like that bike. like a rocket :) 15:54:52 good on and off road too :) 15:55:04 a rocket? nah. it's kinda slow :P 15:55:17 it's just a big single cyl. 15:55:33 my coworker calls his "the green mule" 15:55:38 yeah well if it goes over 75 it's fast enough for me. 15:55:45 yea. that's about as fast as it goes 15:56:04 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 15:56:15 I like bikes but I crashed so good the last time wifey asked me to never again :) 15:56:20 it goes 0-50 quicker than my buddy's vw jetta. but that's because it's a bike. 15:56:26 ah. 15:56:35 I have but don't tell -- secret :) 15:57:38 i need to get my bike license for this state. been putting it off for ages. 15:58:07 I was stupid -- passing a long line of traffic on a curved bridge. Hit a city tity and lauched myself into oncoming traffic. I got on the seat okay and jumped but it found me :) 15:58:28 city tity? 15:59:30 a really big reflector used to separate traffic on a narrow curved bride. about 4-1/2 inches high and many in a row. :) 15:59:42 most bike accidents start with "I wasn't thinking and" or "I was showing off and" 15:59:53 oh. those. 15:59:58 yeah that was me. 16:01:25 I used to drink back in them thar day's too. 16:01:35 in california all the bikers here drive between traffic during rush hour. i'm probably going to commute on the bike i get. i haven't decided if it's safer to split traffic and get out of there quickly or to wait in heavy traffic and risk someone rear ending me. 16:02:12 i still drink. but only about once a week. 16:02:24 you'll piss of the gunner either way so be careful :) 16:02:32 gunner? 16:02:49 no matter what you do -- theres a killer on the road. 16:02:54 oh. yea. 16:03:02 his head is squirming like a toad 16:03:12 doors on :) 16:03:17 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 16:03:26 --- quit: saon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:03:46 thinking about it makes me want to take the bus. :P 16:04:01 he he 16:04:38 you know we still don't have bus service here 16:05:39 i'm in "liberal" california and the bus service is spotty at best. 16:06:09 it's dramatically better than most places in the US. but it's still a last resort option, unless you like waiting around at stops for an hour at a time 16:06:51 while stationed at treasure Island I grew to appreciate the BART 16:07:21 great for dates believe it or not :) 16:08:57 yea. the bart rocks:) 16:09:14 I'm in san jose and they keep pushing back the date that they will get bart service here. 16:09:33 a lot of times i'll just drive half way to SF and then hop the bart. then i don't have to spend an hour looking for parking. 16:09:51 oh man Bart all the way to san jose ? that's great ! 16:10:00 yeah no kidding can't blame ya 16:10:16 and i always take the train to the airport. it's $4/person. so it's cheaper than the gas I spend driving up there. plus i don't have to drop $30 on long term parking. 16:10:33 Raystm2, it was going to be here in 2006. but now it's going to be 2016 16:11:32 of course i don't bring more than about 3 pieces of luggage with me either. so that helps. but since I take super early flights the train is empty enough that I can just put my luggage anywhere. 16:11:48 oh what a shame . I've only driven twice in san fran twice and once down Lomabard in an really long late 70's LTD . then I wrecked in a rain storm in a vw. 16:12:00 heh 16:12:24 i've driven in SF about 40-50 times. i don't miss it:) 16:13:07 the street lights are all weird so everyone is running the lights. and there are lots of one-way streets. and lots of weird people who walk up really close to your car and then walk away. 16:13:18 there's a theme there some where . he he yeah the rush hour across the bridge was bad but nothing like Houston on a friday night / 16:13:29 he he 16:13:59 yea. there was some research and houston was like the 2nd worse place for traffic in north america. 16:14:16 I miss sf . just walking around and gathering the life was fun. 16:14:21 like the average person wasted some 25+ hours a month stuck in traffic. 16:14:27 sf is a fun town. 16:14:49 I used to play guitar for tips when broke, never got no guff from a cop or no-one . 16:15:08 berkeley is a really good place to pan handle :P 16:15:46 sf is a good place to hussle tourists, i've found from personal experience. 16:15:47 yeah there the cops will hold your lit joint while you reach in your pocket for a pelectrum 16:15:51 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:15:58 ahah 16:16:04 oh reallY :) 16:16:17 dang that's brave my friend 16:16:22 yea. some guy hussled me for $20 to shine my shoes. 16:16:34 no. i wasn't doing the hussling :P 16:16:47 he he I could never bring myself to it thou ive thought of it :) 16:17:05 he like talked really fast and said he'd shine my shoes for free if he couldn't guess where I got my shoes. 16:17:22 he he 16:17:30 what'd ya do. 16:17:37 otherwise he said "ten a shoe" .. which apparently means $10 for each shoe. :P 16:18:02 he he 16:18:07 he guessed .. he said "you gots them on your feet" .. and before I could react he was squirting some cheap clear shoe polish on my boots 16:18:07 he he 16:18:26 dang 16:18:35 bastardo 16:18:40 next time i'm going to bring my shoes in my backpack and wear boots. then i'll tell him my BOOTS are on my feet. but my SHOES are in my backpack 16:18:58 he he 16:19:22 he's there all the time. he probably makes $400/day 16:19:30 tax free 16:19:36 yup. 16:20:34 once a guy smoked a 5 dollar KOOL with me. told me it was laced and I'd feel it in about 45 min . ya know I kinda still feel that way :) 16:21:22 haha 16:21:26 I had never had a menthol at the time and looked as dumb as I was and deserved the lesson :) 16:22:10 yea. being a sucker is a learning experience. :) 16:22:40 only my kids con me now friend :) 16:23:47 and once yer done with them they cain't get ya till ya get on the publishers clearing house mailing list . 16:35:47 that was supposed to be funny :( 16:44:13 --- join: Zymurgy (zymurgy@delgw.delfax.net) joined #forth 16:48:29 --- join: swsch_ (~stefan@p5091F86A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 16:48:41 i just bought a $200+ gun stock blank for $67 ! 16:49:12 a gunstock made with this wood could go for as much as $6000 16:49:17 and thats JUST The stock! 16:49:36 dang mark nice grab :) 16:49:52 --- quit: warpzero ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 16:49:57 heck ya 16:53:23 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 16:55:28 --- quit: saon (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:04:52 --- quit: swsch (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:11:16 I440r__, wooo :) 17:12:24 I440r__, for an m1911? 17:38:15 no 17:38:20 for a rifle 17:38:37 hi i440r 17:38:43 hi 17:39:09 hi slava, did you get to see the chesses ? 17:39:17 yes 17:39:30 what did you think ? 17:39:38 oh btw slava - your point about bounds checking was a valid one - but not doing bounds checking on I/O is silly methunks 17:39:53 create 20 char buffer and ask user to enter name. user enters 4k of data and.... 17:40:00 yeah 17:40:12 output bounds checking is JUST as much of an issue 17:40:32 so my original statement stands 17:40:37 AS IS :P 17:50:29 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 17:51:28 hi warpzero 17:51:34 I440r_ lol i still have voice 18:02:18 yes 18:02:25 why would i mute you :P 18:02:56 I440r_, im the only one in the chan with voice 18:03:00 this chan is not +m 18:03:00 lol 18:03:06 HEWLLO! 18:03:08 so its just a mark of distinction 18:03:09 madgarden, !!! 18:03:14 * Raystm2 mm mmmmm mm mmmmm 18:03:15 slava, !!!! 18:03:46 madgarden, how goes 18:05:18 Goes alright... been making the ultimate NES ROMs disk for a PS1 NES emulator lately. :D you? 18:05:29 i found a new class of factor bugs 18:06:18 if you pass a very small or very large index to vector-nth, it wraps around and returns an element in the vector instead of raising an error 18:06:36 Sounds like a feature! ;) 18:06:51 document it! 18:08:23 lol 18:10:47 sounds like a feature to me lol 18:11:12 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:12:52 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-108.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 18:21:04 --- join: guest776 (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 18:23:38 --- nick: guest776 -> arke 18:23:38 nick arke 18:23:52 just here for 30 seconds, need to use memoserv 18:25:58 If anybody sees Sonarman, tell him he has a memo 18:26:06 --- quit: arke ("CGI:IRC") 18:26:35 these kinds of 'features' mess up the algebraic properties of the language 18:34:22 hi arke 18:34:38 bye arke 18:34:38 he he 18:43:43 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 19:05:30 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:05:38 --- join: ez4 (~ez4@pcp01518726pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:10:25 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-108.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 19:13:14 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 19:13:18 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 19:19:25 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 19:19:28 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 19:26:23 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 19:26:26 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 19:35:35 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 19:35:38 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 19:52:55 --- quit: skylan (Remote closed the connection) 19:52:58 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4738.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 20:26:01 --- quit: OrngeTide ("gone") 20:40:38 wow, ogg really does sound a lot better than mp3 and aac 20:40:47 http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/listen.html 20:41:10 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:42:02 I was just listening to the samples in AAC(quicktime) and ogg at 69kbps 20:42:32 I can't tell the difference between ogg and the original 20:42:43 Hi HerK 20:42:47 aac is noticably distorted 20:42:51 sounds good :) 20:43:11 shame on them 20:43:14 but it has such a damned crappy name! 20:43:14 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-108.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 20:43:24 ogg <- surely tehy could have come up with something better :/ 20:43:27 he he 20:43:49