00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.10.11 00:15:25 --- quit: Serg_Penguin ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00:35:37 --- quit: proteusguy ("The #python split is remarkably silly...") 00:45:33 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 00:46:02 --- join: colorg (r@core-dc-1-222.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined #forth 00:54:12 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:29:27 I majorly tweaked Babelfish! 01:29:44 Type in "usted far", select "Spanish to English", and let it rip. 01:29:58 huh? 01:30:04 It prints out 01:30:16 "You Officers' Club of Revolutionary Armed Forces" 01:33:15 We have a city here, El Cajon. I now realize what it means: The Drawer. 01:42:13 hmmmm, I think I make it into DOLIT 01:49:06 --- quit: colorg (Client Quit) 01:53:56 --- quit: Klaw ("Leaving") 01:58:11 Man, doing all this translation work for Spanish just makes me want to relearn Italian. 01:58:38 It's odd -- the more Spanish translations I do, the more Italian comes back to me. (But, interestingly, my ability to grok Spanish doesn't really improve all that much.) 02:27:40 I onced tried to translate some software we were working on into german via babelfish 02:28:12 * kc5tja is working with Spanish for tech support though. 02:28:21 my german colleagues told me the result lay somewhere between humourous and confusing 02:28:23 It doesn't help that virtually everybody in South America is also illiterate. 02:28:57 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Miranda@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 02:29:29 thats sad =( 02:29:58 I received one case today that said, "Cannot receive e-mail. Can send, but cannot receive. But if I get spam? Today." (And this translation came from someone who knows Spanish inside and out.) 02:31:53 Then I did it through Babelfish, which produced almost the same response. Then I had arke help me out on the off chance that HE had some clue about what the heck was being communicated. 02:32:16 Three strikes, he's out. I just updated the case, basically asking him to clarify because he didn't make a lick of sense. 02:38:32 http://photofile.ru/default/do.php?sp=&sn=53246&id=3915899#sm 02:39:27 Taken by fake-leica, scanned in pro-lab to 2Mpix for 4$/36 frames 02:39:48 I'll check it out in just a bit. 02:39:58 * kc5tja is still working on a ton of customer cases. :/ 02:40:44 * Serg_Penguin had only one hit today - broken phone line 02:44:54 --- join: wincent (~wincent@void-109.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de) joined #forth 02:45:51 --- quit: imaginator ("sleep") 02:46:57 Serg_Penguin: Wow. I like the city time-lapsed photograph. 02:48:19 time-lapsed ? 02:48:50 The night-time picture, with the vehicle's brake lights smeared across the picture. 02:49:16 aha ! i named it "Rocket Shadow" 02:49:36 but what about Kremlin, the last posted one ? 02:52:14 I was hoping it wouldn't be solarized like it was; but I think it's cool. I like how the clouds came out looking a lot like an ice flow. 02:57:36 Neat. Are those computer pictures the pictures of your home setup? 02:58:33 computer - at work 02:58:47 Oh, I see. 02:59:09 I was wondering -- looks like a nice little setup. 02:59:32 Just pack yourself into a corner of the room, surrounded by PCs -- the computers keep you warm, and the Internet keeps you happy. :) 03:00:09 and Kremlin is badly warped by Photoshop 03:00:55 actually it was nice sunset shot exposed by sky 03:09:35 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 03:10:45 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:43:24 --- join: crc (crc@83-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 03:43:24 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:51:25 --- quit: Herkamire ("bed") 03:56:29 DAMN, Herkamire went to bed way late today. :) 03:56:37 Or, rather, "early." 03:56:38 :) 03:57:33 * crc just got up :-) 03:58:39 re crc 04:01:06 Time to start trying to get L4 to compile again 04:04:03 Heheh :) 04:21:13 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:22:10 --- join: crc_ (crc@148-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 04:22:35 --- quit: crc (Nick collision from services.) 04:22:43 --- nick: crc_ -> crc 04:24:34 * crc sighs. I'll never be able to download GCC 3.2 if my 'net connection keeps dropping :-( 04:28:28 Reading up on universal PNP. 04:28:48 It is one god-awful complex contrivation. 04:29:35 universal PNP? 04:30:11 * crc googles for it 04:30:15 Yeah. 04:30:41 It's supposed to be the next big thing in plug-n-play devices. Supposedly will allow the entire household, and then some, to be networked together. 04:31:58 Why do they want everything to be networked? 04:32:16 More than anything else, "just because." 04:32:24 That's a crappy reason 04:32:39 Because it sells more desktop environments, and brings the reality of unification one step closer. 04:32:48 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:32:57 more connections = more chances for problems 04:33:27 And way more security issues, especially since Windows will be at the center of attention (until Linux gets in on it) 04:33:35 ick 04:33:53 So far, everything looks fairly open though -- bone-stock DHCP for auto-address-assignment, and UDP port access for device events and configuration notifications. 04:34:24 At least they're using standard technology then 04:34:40 * crc doesn't like the idea of networking everything 04:34:59 Nor I. 04:35:05 I'm none too happy with it myself. 04:35:32 Let me guess: it's wireless too? 04:36:00 No -- transport independent. While it supports wireless networks, the baseline protocol for it is ordinary IP. 04:36:07 Basically plug-n-play over IP. 04:36:24 hmm... 04:38:31 --- join: Zymurgy (zymurgy@delgw.delfax.net) joined #forth 04:38:40 I think I'd rather keep things simpler 04:44:59 Well, I have *no* computers with GCC 3.x installed properly on them :-( 04:45:09 (Except for a shell account on a PPC machine) 04:47:56 I'll have to set my extra box up today so I can test the L4ka binary distribution 04:48:14 * kc5tja nods 04:48:30 * kc5tja was researching UPnP because I wanted to see how it compared against the USB I/O device model. 04:48:52 Assuming that it boots ok, I'll start reading up on the L4 api 04:49:00 * kc5tja is thinking of adopting the USB I/O model *universally* (for all devices, USB and non-USB), since (I think at least) it's a nice architecture. 04:49:17 Really? 04:49:38 I always thought that it would be a pain to support 04:49:52 Yep. It just seems to make sense to me to represent all non-hot-swappable devices as if they were swappable. 04:50:24 USB's I/O model is independent of its actual implementation. I have no idea how much of a pain it will be to talk to USB devices via the chipset. 04:50:30 That's rather a chipset issue, really. 04:50:32 ok 04:51:05 I really should read up on USB, I've only looked at the Linux source for handling it 04:51:28 Executive summary: 04:51:32 There are two levels of drivers. 04:51:50 There is the HCD -- Host Controller Driver -- which talks to the USB I/O chip on the motherboard. 04:52:07 The HCD is responsible for scheduling requests and making sure that USB I/O bandwidth isn't over-saturated. 04:52:42 It's also responsible for periodically polling the bus to see if new devices have been added. If so, it's responsible for (somehow) launching the relavent drivers. 04:52:57 The device drivers themselves (e.g., a keyboard driver), then talks to the HCD. 04:53:15 ok 04:53:35 All device communications occurs via packets. 04:53:47 Thus, a file-like interface is used to talk to various devices. 04:53:52 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 04:53:54 Well, networking-like really. 04:55:26 that sounds pretty good 04:57:46 And that is the perfect model for pretty much any hot-swappable service I can think of. 04:58:06 And it's perfect for something like L4, because device drivers can run entirely in user-space. 04:59:37 The drivers don't need any hooks into kernel space? 04:59:51 No. The HCD is to USB as sockets is the Ethernet. 05:00:05 very cool 05:00:52 The HCD is also responsible for launching device drivers too, as I indicated. When a device is plugged into USB, the HCD can query the attached device, and use the supplied device IDs to locate and find a suitable device driver. 05:04:02 Will the Forth/4 binary need to be multiboot compliant to work with L4? 05:04:39 Maybe, I don't know. 05:04:54 I have to read up on Grub to find out if a module requires a Multiboot header or not. 05:05:18 L4Ka::Kickstart is the Grub kernel, then the microkernel itself is the first module, then sigma0, then Forth/4. 05:05:30 (that is how it's looking to me at least; I don't know 100% for sure just yet.) 05:05:31 what's sigma0? 05:05:41 sigma0 is the root-level memory handler. 05:05:48 ok 05:05:51 It's purpose in life is to hand memory out to requesting processes. 05:06:05 It's identity mapped, so it actually handles *physical* memory allocation. 05:06:27 Sub-memory handlers are responsible for maintaining page table mappings and the like for their subprocesses. 05:07:51 This is all new to me; I've never used a microkernel before :-) 05:08:10 Unix kernel assumes 100% control over all physical memory. 05:08:15 The L4 microkernel doesn't. 05:08:29 It leaves it to a specially designated, user-level program to manage physical memory. 05:08:53 Note that memory cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed; like money, it can only be passed around from task to task. 05:09:14 But that currency has to come from somewhere -- sigma0 is where all memory comes from (ultimately). 05:11:22 --- join: crc_ (crc@40-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 05:12:10 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:12:39 --- nick: crc_ -> crc 05:12:51 wb -- not sure if you caught everything I was writing. 05:13:34 reading logs to see what I missed ;-) 05:14:11 how does sigma0 protect the memory where the kernel is loaded at? 05:15:25 It doesn't -- the kernel is responsible for protecting itself. However, the kernel does expose a "kernel information page," a 4KB structure which contains information on where the kernel itself is loaded (along with sigma0 and the root task). Therefore, it has knowledge of where not to touch memory. 05:16:14 ok, very interesting 05:17:26 (note that sigma0 and the root task itself does not fall under the kernel's protections; therefore, sigma0 must be careful not to dole its own memory out for that of the root task. For all other tasks, this isn't an issue, since the kernel requests memory from sigma0 as if any other task would) 05:20:02 I'm going to have to go soon... 05:20:10 * crc has to fix his mother's computer 05:21:02 OK -- good luck. :) 05:21:09 Hope you have a better time of it than I am here. >:( 05:21:15 Hmm, I can try the L4 binaries on her computer :-) 05:21:23 She runs Linux? 05:21:32 Not officially 05:21:40 Haha -- covert OSes. 05:22:02 I have Linux installed, but it boots to XP by default 05:22:02 * crc finds Windows to be counterproductive 05:22:27 Windows is beyond counterproductive -- it's outright destructive. 05:22:27 If WINE worked better, she'd be running Linux and never know it though 05:23:00 Agreed 05:23:00 * crc just wants a useable ForthOS 05:23:23 Hopefully, I can help you reach that goal, as that's my great desire as well. 05:23:37 :-) 05:23:38 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 05:26:37 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:27:36 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC983E25.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 05:28:26 re ray 05:28:59 Hello, kc5tja. still heavy case load ? 05:29:05 Yes 05:29:15 I let you then :) 05:29:26 Not a lot of cases on the board anymore, but the ones that are left are so damn hard that I just can't figure them out. 05:30:43 --- join: hefner (~hefner@pool-141-157-13-173.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:31:19 Hey hefner hows things :) 05:31:30 hi Raystm2 05:32:01 OK, guys, here's a clue for you all. 05:32:09 * hefner needs a clue 05:32:09 If you're ever going to create a new Linux distribution, 05:32:14 DON'T FUCK WITH CRON. 05:32:22 he he 05:32:28 I'm trying to debug a problem now because a cron job isn't running anymore. 05:32:32 Yes, that's right, "anymore." 05:32:35 It WAS running. 05:32:39 It's NOT running anymore. 05:32:40 Why? 05:32:43 I have *NO* frigging idea. 05:32:49 he he 05:33:12 I take it cron runs backround tasks ? 05:33:13 And I'm having to trace through many layers of stupid Perl scripts, all of which REPLICATE the behavior of crond's execution engine, but still requires to be invoked from cron itself. 05:33:23 which distribution? 05:33:24 he he 05:33:39 fridge: almost all of them that adhere to the Linux Standards Base now. 05:33:45 It's freaking stupid. 05:33:54 But I'm using SuSE> 05:34:01 the LSB demands you break cron? :) 05:34:07 hefner: Yes. 05:39:41 * Raystm2 reads 'Intro to cron' 05:40:47 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:42:59 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 05:47:37 * Raystm2 and now ray gets joke 05:47:37 --- part: Serg_Penguin left #forth 05:48:00 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 06:36:21 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 06:38:45 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:21:06 kc5tja: Has it been determined if chaossolutions is not well ? 07:21:23 I just got home. 07:21:52 oh okay -- let you settle in then :) 07:21:57 Raystm2: Chaossolutions.com is dead in the water. 07:22:02 My message did not go through. 07:22:48 what i thought . oh well we always have c.l.f. 07:23:34 Horrid. I refuse to go there. 07:23:48 just finished a web page of the c4th chesses to hand to Tim Nietz to add to archive. wanted to announce on mail list but oh well . 07:23:52 :(\ 07:23:52 Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that the better solution for C4ers is to make a ColorForth wiki. 07:23:56 bad huh 07:24:04 agreed 07:24:18 though herk had one , was I wrong? 07:24:25 thought not though 07:24:43 Herkamire's wiki may be a good start, I don't know. I was thinking something that allowed you to literally share code, in full color. 07:25:02 Although, frankly, I find Herkamire's wiki's markup to be hard to use. 07:25:04 absolutely. 07:25:12 oh 07:25:20 CLF is like BORING these days 07:25:28 we have much better discussions in here 07:25:34 and more activity too 07:25:37 I440r_: and hotter flames too. 07:25:46 and at this rate of growth were going to have a larger userbase 07:25:55 Good. 07:25:59 kc5 yes but thats par :) 07:26:05 I'd like to be part of something positive for a change. 07:26:23 I'm new to 'web grouping' so I have no opinion of c.l.f or of #forth for that matter. :) positive yes 07:26:30 Raystm2: I'm not too sure, but it looks like the wiki on RetroForth's page is written in Forth. Perhaps one can modify that one. 07:26:41 i believe it is 07:26:57 I wonder if the source for it is up. 07:27:07 * kc5tja is finding that my Blog is a security hole for my site. 07:27:29 thanx i shall pull it up . -- blog -- no kidding ! 07:29:26 Retro has updated since last I was there :) 07:29:41 more pro looking :) 07:30:55 oh he uses FML in wiki -- I assume that is a Forth mark up ? 07:33:55 looks like you can add pre text and images as coding support. 07:34:14 no real color control 07:35:07 brb 07:35:16 ok 07:37:30 back 07:40:52 Hmm... I'm not thinking I'll be very happy with crc's wiki code. 07:41:02 * Raystm2 reading RF 07:42:33 I think I'll write my own. And I know just how to do it too. :) 07:42:54 * kc5tja once again exploits Forth's built-in dictionary for his own, evil, nefarious plans. 07:43:01 there seems to be bold and italic tags advertized. maybe color is there but not advertized. I know you can :) 07:43:16 he he he ha ha ha ho ho ho 07:43:18 No, no color tags. 07:43:32 I can put them in my wiki easily enough though. 07:43:48 But, then again, how am I going to get Forth running on my webserver? I don't think they'll let me. 07:43:53 they == my web hosting provider. 07:44:07 oh yea 07:44:50 The other thing that I will absolutely need is support for either CVS or subversion. 07:45:05 agreed 07:45:34 is there a specifically forth cvs 07:45:44 You know, the other alternative is to just use C2's wiki engine. :) 07:45:48 (and modify it accordingly) 07:47:16 don't know C2? link ? 07:47:26 --- nick: hefner -> hefaway 07:47:55 hey hefaway you doing okay ? :) 08:00:36 http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki 08:01:03 thanx kc5tja 08:05:26 that rhymes.. 08:07:04 it will either rhyme or have some pattern like -- hey hef hows haps. or some such. I don't pretend to understand my mind, but I'm often embarrassed and never bored :) 08:08:50 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:08:50 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 08:09:04 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20031010&mode=classic 08:09:38 here we go :) hi Herkamire :) 08:11:16 HEH-LO my name ray :) 08:14:34 --- join: saon (~Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:28:45 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 08:33:13 --- quit: Herkamire ("removing HD") 08:43:08 Raystm2, that Build Your Own Forth doesn't have nearly enough information for someone to build their own forth. it didn't seem to go into any detail when it comes to the dictionary 08:43:31 agreed 08:43:44 did you go to moving forth ? 08:45:16 Raystm2, yea. 08:45:22 3I wish i had a copy of that 08:45:25 i think i have starting forth 08:45:59 OrngeTide : is it any better ? 08:46:18 hi ianp :) 08:46:48 Raystm2, it has enough details to write your own forth. but it's almost too much. :) 08:46:55 I enjoyed starting forth . Leo Brodie did a great job i think :) 08:47:04 ianp, moving forth is available online 08:47:05 ok thanx 08:47:15 sounds fun ;) 08:47:17 http://www.zetetics.com/bj/papers/moving1.htm 08:47:53 going going gone :) 08:48:05 i think i should write my own forth tutorial as an exercise for myself. 08:48:52 I'm in the middle of a forth tutorial that turns the interpreter into a forth chess game :) 08:49:13 neat 08:49:26 it's called b18chess and works on gforth and win32forth and others 08:49:39 cool. 2 player or does it have an ai? 08:50:03 it saves games and is two player if both have this app and share a constantly regenerated savefile. 08:50:17 oh that's pretty cool. 08:50:20 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 08:50:37 (a computer player would have made an extremely complicated tutorial) 08:50:46 anyone with the app can 'watch' 08:51:01 an ai can drive this 08:51:29 it just has to output the squares of each move only to drive the display. 08:51:37 like e2e5 08:51:56 oops e2e4 king pawn open :) 08:52:20 gforth and win32forth can do sockets. you could talk ICS protocol. maybe mention at the end of your tutorial as an exercise for the reader:) 08:52:40 the game will read the stack and update the display and the save file . 08:52:47 sounds like fun 08:52:57 I should like to learn it also :) 08:53:51 the save file saves in english so you can read the saved moves or give to a chess algebra converter interpreter that I'd like to write next :) 08:55:53 has undo but i need to impliment a history to undo the undo in both directions . also have a very intricate branching system to impliment so you can analize moves not taken. 08:56:55 but works as is and as a tutorial and probubly will generate it's own solutions to the above problems if I can get it any attention . one can only hope :) 09:02:17 --- quit: ChanServ (ACK! SIGSEGV!) 09:03:04 --- join: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) joined #forth 09:03:04 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +o ChanServ 09:07:28 --- join: arke-sch00l (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 09:08:18 hi :) 09:10:49 hey arke hows school :) 09:14:00 hewhe 09:14:11 first period we got to shoot projectiles (physics) 09:14:20 this calss I'm working on my project (drafting) 09:14:22 next comes math. 09:14:23 etc.etc. 09:14:26 wow 09:14:38 I just realized that the only non-op opped is ianp :) 09:15:35 im leet 09:15:48 but nobody has voice except for me 09:15:58 I can only aspire to get voice 09:16:04 yeah 09:16:05 yeah 09:16:11 yeah 09:16:31 * Raystm2 feels like a beatle 09:17:41 * Raystm2 may never deserve voice or op :( 09:26:57 aww...... 09:27:07 actually, I'm op at home. 09:27:19 ianp: Op me please, I'm already op at home, so you might as well :) 09:28:15 its a spy1 09:28:30 a spy i tell ye! 09:28:57 i cherish my voice 09:29:00 he'll get the secret decoder ring mold 09:29:58 may as well wax cast another. 09:31:16 anyone recall the enigma algorithm in forth ? 09:31:49 it's just that i'm getting so old now. 09:32:15 hehe. 09:32:21 slava: I'll op you when I get home 09:32:40 'deal with the devil' 09:32:43 Raystm2: I'll op you when I get home. You're safe as you don't know how to use the ops anyway :P 09:33:16 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:33:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 09:33:41 lol 09:33:43 hi Herkamire 09:33:48 i couldn't op myself if i wanted to and I'm so envious os slava's voice capability that i just might pout 09:33:54 Herkamire, i'm writing a NewImproved mandelbrot generator ;) 09:34:16 NIMG 09:34:32 Herkamire: please voice Raystm2 and unvoice slava :) 09:35:06 NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 09:35:18 no that's not right either . 09:35:29 that would also make me pout 09:35:34 :( 09:36:46 lol 09:36:56 hey mark 09:38:02 * Raystm2 wishes he knew more about slave's gen. 09:38:15 oops slava freudian there 09:39:18 hi I440r 09:39:45 :) 09:39:54 * I440r_ is at work "hardly working" 09:40:43 least your not wardly herking 09:41:23 we already have one of those :) 09:45:28 --- join: crc (crc@25-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 09:48:10 hi all 09:48:37 what's all this silly business about voicing I keep hearing lately 09:48:50 wadayanogood Jason ? 09:49:12 afaik this channel has only been moderated once in the two years or so I've been hanging here 09:49:22 and that was when chuck moore came here 09:49:40 crowd control? 09:49:48 basically 09:50:04 we wanted it to be a nice interview sorta format, instead of bombarding him with 20 questions at once 09:50:30 yeah everybodys got a question for CM i'm sure. 09:50:47 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:50:49 like what kinda hair gel do you use and stuf :) 09:50:59 real celeb here i bet 09:51:06 hehe 09:51:07 no 09:51:19 mostly we asked questions about his chip thing 09:51:50 yeah like what kinda silicon do you use and stuf :) 09:52:08 haha 09:52:24 I'm surprised Raystm2 hasn't mentioned guns yet .... must not be a true texan :) 09:52:38 yankee 09:52:50 from Massachusettes 09:53:01 been here 16 years thou 09:54:12 all my guns are disassebled and the parts are spread amongst the house in places only i knowabout :) 09:54:31 I check them and clean them regularly tho 09:55:12 i am white after all , but I'm already older than the average serial killer so I'm no longer worried :) 09:56:34 just don't break in 09:58:31 or what? 09:58:47 you'll run around your house picking up various gun parts and assemble them in an orderly fashion? 09:58:54 or i'll have to run aro 09:58:58 yeah 09:59:04 so there 09:59:28 they'll never see that one coming 09:59:59 they never expect the spanish inquitsition 10:00:09 no one ever does! 10:00:48 I see your point and raise your text several pixels 10:02:34 * arke-sch00l laugh 10:02:41 adios, gotta go to math class :) bye 10:02:53 arke++ 10:02:59 --- quit: arke-sch00l ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10:03:30 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 10:07:35 --- join: slava_ (~slava@CPE00096ba44261-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 10:07:46 best time to closest gun and slide and amo and assem and dry fire 82 sec must retry 10:07:49 --- quit: slava_ (Client Quit) 10:07:57 hu hu hu 10:08:43 had to chew thru the cable tie 10:08:52 hert a tooth 10:09:17 must sleep with diagnal cutters 10:14:40 76 secs ,,, enough time to decide if i need to shoot my son in the kneecaps or not == don't ya think ? 10:16:09 maybe faster if i don't put on my slippers first or ask my wife to get up and check it her self ( dangerous for the perp btw) 10:24:49 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 10:31:28 --- join: Raystm2- (Rastm2@ACD132A7.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 10:31:33 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:45:02 --- join: Raystm2 (Rastm2@AC814DB2.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 10:45:02 --- quit: Raystm2- (Connection reset by peer) 10:46:55 crash and back and the patient is still alive -- thanx windows 11:01:32 damn... I have a nice connection here 11:01:42 downloading a CD at 375KB/sec 11:01:51 cool 11:04:36 --- quit: tgunr ("Leaving") 11:11:46 --- nick: hefaway -> hefner 11:17:41 --- quit: wincent (Remote closed the connection) 11:20:53 --- join: wincent (~wincent@void-109.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de) joined #forth 11:27:23 --- nick: hefner -> hefafk 12:20:52 --- nick: hefafk -> hefner 12:33:39 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 13:24:17 --- join: arke-3c0n (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 13:25:25 HI!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111 13:30:24 hiiii 13:33:37 tere mur 13:35:53 terve 13:35:54 terve* 13:35:58 tere is estonian :) 13:36:02 terve 13:36:07 puhutko suomea? 13:36:14 puhun 13:36:30 hyvÃ¤Ã¤ 13:37:00 talar du svenska ocksÃ¥? :-) 13:38:33 guess that didn't deserve an answer... 13:38:38 ja 13:38:49 det talar jag också 13:44:34 sounds greek to me :) 13:44:46 actually, that was finnish and swedish. 13:45:26 my finnish sucks, but my swedish is passable. 13:45:31 I was wonderind why he wanted to delete the sales tag on his socks :) 13:46:12 on the other hand, redneck is my first language. english was my second. 13:46:35 jeat ? 13:46:53 yup 13:47:17 just had some duck amazingly enough 13:47:26 with some spiffy french name I keep forgetting. 13:47:43 Raystm2: or do you prefer shonuff 13:47:44 l' orange 13:47:59 nah, some other spiffy french name... 13:48:04 * shapr asks the french chick in the next room 13:48:05 --- quit: arke-3c0n ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13:48:08 allyal tra shonuf 13:48:27 is it a spiffy french chick ? 13:48:41 it is 13:48:49 she said it's 'forestier' 13:49:05 ah duck a la forest 13:49:19 je ne parle pas beaucoup de franÃ§ais 13:49:29 mais, je t'aime les franÃ§aise 13:49:53 so un petit that I'm ashamed to be St. Marie :) 13:49:56 heh 13:50:08 this calls for sleep... 13:50:23 casting spells? 13:51:57 "the french chick in the room" ??? 13:52:16 i only know of solar angel, who was american, and i havent seen in a while now :p 13:54:16 you mean you looked directly at solar angel ? 13:54:30 ^o) 13:54:32 no. 13:54:35 and survived 13:54:44 ah 13:54:56 right... 13:54:59 whatever 14:38:55 --- quit: wincent (Remote closed the connection) 15:09:56 --- join: Topaz (~top@sown-89.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 15:16:49 hi all 15:17:06 i started a new wiki covering all concatenative languages (including forth) 15:17:08 http://factor.sourceforge.net/wiki/ 15:17:23 going thanx hi 15:18:49 very nice! 15:18:56 someone want to write the page for ConcatenativeLanguage? :) 15:20:39 me me! 15:20:59 clever 15:21:41 I'm looking for a good explanation I saw on the Joy site. 15:24:05 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 15:26:17 who'll do the colorForth entry ? 15:26:29 anyone is welcome! 15:26:49 okay thanx 15:29:02 ya know slava, kc5tja will be happy to see this :) 15:30:50 he mentioned something about needing to add to a wiki 15:31:23 I recall now. he wants to beable to add colored text to a wiki and the one at retroForth would not do I believe. 15:31:34