00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.09.15 00:01:03 4.56GB 00:01:07 im getting there.... 00:01:10 * arke is cleaning up HD 00:10:39 down to 3.12GB 00:11:02 music folder is 600MB, I can cut that down 00:11:05 because i have dupes 00:14:12 only to 385MB 00:16:47 aah, found another 800MB of hidden 00:18:49 2.96GB :) 00:31:46 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 00:42:32 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:43:27 --- quit: warpzero (Client Quit) 00:58:23 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 01:05:59 --- nick: warpzero -> warp0x00 01:06:16 --- nick: warp0x00 -> warpzero 01:15:46 arke: What are you doing? 01:16:10 kc5tja: oh, i was cleaning my HD 02:47:07 Ahh 02:51:04 Damn, that was a long ass movie! 02:51:12 * kc5tja watched Casino. Excellent film. 02:57:55 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:00:01 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 03:08:10 --- quit: imaginator (".") 04:04:11 --- join: crc (crc@57-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 04:37:51 --- quit: crc (burroughs.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04:37:51 --- quit: warpzero (burroughs.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04:37:51 --- quit: madwork (burroughs.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04:38:53 --- join: crc (crc@57-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 04:38:53 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.103.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 04:38:53 --- join: madwork (~madgarden@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 04:39:18 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 04:39:34 --- join: crc (crc@57-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 04:56:51 --- quit: kc5tja ("leaving") 05:06:14 * crc notes the silence... 05:17:11 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 05:18:42 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 05:30:36 Does anyone here know how to center an image using CSS? 06:19:14 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 06:22:54 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:23:01 * crc is thinking of redesigning retroforth's web site 06:24:25 how come? 06:24:43 To make it more accessible 06:24:55 blind people use retroforth? :) 06:25:02 Actually, yes 06:25:12 One of the biggest contributors is blind 06:25:37 Heh 06:25:40 (which I just learned last week) 06:25:47 interesting. 06:28:51 http://www.retroforth.org/index-test.html is the new design 06:29:15 There are a few minor CSS bugs (color names mostly) to work out still 06:35:53 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 06:46:24 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:48:54 * crc has been playing with jedit a lot recently 07:01:12 crc: I like the new site design 07:01:58 good 07:02:18 I need to make some changes to the logo, but I'm glad you like the new design 07:42:02 --- join: randoml (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 07:43:00 --- nick: randoml -> wossname 08:05:06 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 08:05:38 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:12:08 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:12:08 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 08:13:50 --- join: warp0b00 (~warpzero@mi157.dn178.umontana.edu) joined #forth 08:18:39 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:28:39 --- quit: mur (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 08:41:42 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 08:58:17 --- quit: tathi ("lunch") 09:10:37 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:18:48 --- join: arke|school (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 09:20:48 --- join: mattgumbley (~mattgumbl@host217-40-157-153.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined #forth 09:21:10 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 09:29:32 --- part: mattgumbley left #forth 10:04:13 --- quit: arke|school ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10:46:10 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 10:47:57 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 11:05:09 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 11:06:54 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:28:58 --- quit: Frag-101 (Remote closed the connection) 11:29:48 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:33:15 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:35:26 I was just thinking of some fun mandelbrot stuff 11:35:47 in my mac mandelbrot generator, I wrote code that rendered the outlines of squares. 11:36:05 if the outline was all black, then it didn't do any calculations for the pixels in the middle, it just filled in with black 11:36:19 (as the mandelbrot does not have any islands of coulor within black 11:36:38 I was just thinking it would be fun to make it so that when the renderer ran into some black, it would start following the edge around 11:38:14 and that it would be really cool if, when you zoomed in (2x) it would spread the known pixels out. so 1/4 of it would already be rendered, I could display it all with 2x2 pixel blocks, as I render the other 3 pixels in each square 11:42:57 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:48:28 I also really want to play with an idea I saw in a mandelbrot generator I saw a long time ago: render near the mouse pointer first! 11:48:58 How is AHEAD ever useful? 11:49:07 AHEAD code that never gets executed THEN 11:49:24 it was a wonderful feature. made it seem like it rendered way way faster, because you just put the mouse at what you want to see, and it would be rendered almost right away even when you are zoooomed way in 11:50:21 madwork: looks like it's for creating a foreward branch. Like IF except it's not conditional. 11:50:47 Yes... but still, I don't see how it can be useful for anything. It just skips some code, always. 11:51:29 dunno. you could use it to implement ESLE 11:51:42 ELSE 11:52:11 : else ahead swap then ; immediate 11:52:16 something like that 11:53:00 you can put AHEAD inside a conditional construct 11:53:51 hmmm... but that's annoying, because you have to swap stuff around to close the right constructs 11:54:19 Seems useless on its own. 11:54:20 I remember wanting an unconditional foreward branch when I was making some mutually recursive words 11:59:43 Hmm... ANS docs outline the usage: http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpansa3.htm . But yes, seems you're right in that it mostly is used for creation of other control-flow words. 12:04:39 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 12:05:14 Hmm, makes me think I should expose a cs-roll and cs-pick in the API. 12:20:52 --- join: Topaz (jonny@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust217.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 12:25:36 Hi 12:31:09 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-74-218-202.san.rr.com) joined #forth 12:31:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 12:32:09 Hi 12:34:39 Greetings 12:35:32 * kc5tja made it to aikido yesterday. Felt wickedly good to be back on the mat. 12:35:58 And now that I have the time to go every day for at least the next couple of weeks, I'll try to make it as often as I can. Especially since it's on my way to work. 12:36:35 Nice :) 13:02:29 Well, I suppose I should be working on our Internet situation here. 13:02:56 Going to switch out our router and hub with my own purchased units, since the router/hub we're currently using belongs to a former roommate who just moved out a week ago. 13:02:59 :) 13:09:09 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 13:19:21 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:20:07 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 13:25:11 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 13:26:01 --- join: kc5tja_ (~kc5tja@66-75-242-200.san.rr.com) joined #forth 13:27:46 --- join: saon (~Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 13:27:53 --- quit: kc5tja (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:30:55 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:51:09 --- nick: kc5tja_ -> kc5tja 13:51:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 13:51:26 hi 13:51:31 Hi slava 13:51:40 Just got our new Internet infrastructure put in place at the house. 14:26:23 --- quit: tgunr (Excess Flood) 14:30:16 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 14:38:08 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 14:48:37 Man, I fucking hate Windows XP. 14:48:59 Just got new network installed at the house, and now one of my roommate's computers refuses to network. 14:49:02 Just flat out refuses. 14:49:04 Won't do it. 14:49:07 Won't have any part of it. 14:49:08 Nothing. 14:49:19 Not a *THING* I can do about it either. >:( 15:16:33 --- quit: warp0b00 ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 16:06:21 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:07:31 --- join: tgunr (~davec@vsat-148-63-4-107.c001.g4.mrt.starband.net) joined #forth 16:57:47 --- quit: Topaz ("Leaving") 17:04:04 --- join: saon (~Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 17:29:04 Oh wlel -- taking a shower. 17:30:37 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 17:33:56 --- join: arke_wtf (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 17:34:03 arke! 17:34:04 wtf! 17:34:15 hrm. 17:34:19 misato DNS is down. 17:34:56 --- quit: arke_wtf (Client Quit) 17:39:13 misato 17:39:17 misato 17:39:19 misato 17:44:04 moo 17:44:05 moo 17:44:05 moo 17:44:22 17:44:46 wtf did you mean by misato 17:44:48 please tell me 17:45:12 was that a horrible typo or the name of a dns server run by tremendous faggots 17:45:26 --- quit: scope (Client Quit) 17:45:35 faggots that are very large in size? 17:45:56 yes, perhaps even faggots that are very large in size and on fire 17:46:07 on fire with style 17:51:23 17:51:23 17:51:23 17:51:26 17:51:31 17:51:50 arke will not answer :( 17:51:59 perhaps he is a tremendous faggot, too 17:52:27 maybe arke is a slight faggot :) 17:52:48 perhaps 17:52:53 maybe he is thin and tall 17:53:05 im fat and short 17:53:20 ok, om 17:53:22 om. 17:53:25 mu 17:53:30 * slava hits arke with an iron butterfly 17:53:33 om. 17:53:38 om. 17:54:51 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 17:54:59 om. 18:05:11 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:06:32 * arke whacks slava with a forth book 18:07:21 ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US 18:07:32 HELP TRAPPED IN IRC FACTORY 18:07:46 misato 18:07:48 misato 18:07:48 misato 18:07:48 misato 18:07:53 misato 18:07:54 18:07:58 18:09:15 18:09:15 18:09:15 18:09:15 18:09:18 18:09:20 18:09:23 18:09:25 18:09:28 18:09:30 18:09:33 18:09:35 18:09:38 18:09:40 18:09:43 18:10:21 mistao 18:10:24 satmi 18:10:24 misato 18:10:26 18:11:50 ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US 18:11:51 misato 18:11:52 18:12:17 --- topic: set to 'FORTH programming language. Info: http://forth.bespin.org/resources/introduction ANSI: http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpans.htm FIG83: http://forth.sourceforge.net/standard/fst83/ Links: http://members.dsl-only.net/~loophog || Note: this chan is publicly logged. | misato' by wossname 18:12:32 18:13:11 kc5tja is going to spank us when he returns 18:14:18 misato ? 18:14:26 yup. 18:14:29 :( 18:16:04 --- join: madgarden_ (~madgarden@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706625.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 18:27:30 --- quit: madgarden_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:38:47 stalin, barney and _____ 18:48:09 --- join: madgarden_ (~madgarden@Toronto-HSE-ppp3706421.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 18:48:25 --- nick: madgarden_ -> madgarden 19:00:21 --- join: saon (~Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 19:06:00 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:10:35 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 19:11:01 19:25:13 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 19:29:29 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:34:03 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:41:53 --- quit: I440r_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:44:53 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 20:07:21 --- join: zoly (~l@ppp-82-135-0-31.mnet-online.de) joined #forth 20:09:19 --- quit: zoly (Client Quit) 20:29:32 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 20:36:44 As the comedian Robin Williams said, referring to nation-building in Iraq: "Here, take our Constitution. We're not using it anyway." 20:38:23 I am fisgusted. 20:41:34 youd think there was anything decent that would run on my SPARC 20:41:39 NOOOO 20:41:40 :/ 20:42:01 Decent in what way? 20:42:17 just something working 20:42:29 freeBSD doesn't support the chip 20:42:38 most distros gave up sparc a while ago 20:42:39 And NetBSD? 20:42:44 debian supports sparc 20:42:55 but he netinst doesnt work on sparc and i dont want to download 7 CDs 20:43:01 same deal with gentoo 20:43:59 Try NetBSD or OpenBSD. They generally support Sparc. 20:45:15 openbsd doesn't support my chip 20:45:24 netbsd doesnt offer netinst or minimal isos 20:46:02 and solaris is too new :/ 20:47:01 I've never installed NetBSD from an ISO. I just get the tarballs I want, and burn the tarballs and a boot-big.fs. 20:47:11 It comes in under 350 MB with X. 20:47:45 boot-big.fs? 20:48:39 It's a special image for CD usage. Otherwise you could just use the two floppy .fs images. 20:50:33 ftp://releng.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-2-0/200409100000/sparc/ 20:50:57 ftp://releng.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-2-0/200409100000/sparc/ 20:51:05 oops 20:52:00 aah, neat 20:52:03 thanks :) 20:54:21 :) 21:08:36 argh 21:08:39 no CD isos 21:08:43 hrm. 21:08:47 * arke gives up 21:08:54 I think I'll just try to figure out with what I have. 21:15:40 I found my anaglyph glasses! 21:19:26 maybe I'll have to write a 3D version of the stupid qix screensaver 21:19:54 hehe 21:19:55 --- join: zruty (~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 21:20:02 I am trying again to figure out my SPARC 21:20:13 i think if I follow this tldp manual itll work 21:20:21 (last time, it rendered gcc unable to compile :P) 21:21:08 wow. a language suitable for www.vatican.va 21:21:11 http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/HTML/Perligata.html 21:21:16 so, this time I get to compile static version of stuff. 21:21:29 binutils, gcc, bash 21:21:31 make 21:21:33 ftp 21:21:34 all static 21:21:40 that way, i won't have glibc problems :) 21:24:26 I don't really feel good about abbreviating bootstrap to bs 21:24:41 it's not bs. it's important! 21:39:28 --- quit: zruty ("Lost terminal") 21:39:41 hehe, just found this in my code: : do-nothing ; 21:40:03 am I easily amused? or do I just have a really geeky sense of humor? 21:42:06 both 21:43:04 and I have thoughts running through my head like "it would be faster if I wrote it: : do-nothing [ asm _blr" 22:06:09 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 22:06:12 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:07:54 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:28:15 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 22:28:52 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 23:20:02 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 23:22:34 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:38:31 --- quit: imaginator ("sleep") 23:59:46 --- quit: wossname (No route to host) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/04.09.15