00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.09.08 00:01:21 Robert: what's w/ tforth ? 00:16:33 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 00:17:06 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 00:41:44 anyone from Germany ? 00:42:33 how is named the "red capella", group of USSR spies in Germany during WWII ? 00:42:46 i wanna google up for the chipher they used 00:46:38 --- quit: kc5tja ("leaving") 01:18:29 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:19:29 --- join: crc (crc@3-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 01:29:27 --- quit: mur (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 01:35:53 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 02:02:02 --- quit: imaginator ("sleep") 03:00:53 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 03:01:26 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:10:07 * crc is reading the logs... 03:10:07 --- quit: arke (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:11:05 --- join: arke (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-111.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 03:15:34 --- join: crc_ (crc@21-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 03:15:52 --- quit: crc (Nick collision from services.) 03:16:02 --- nick: crc_ -> crc 03:17:11 did anyone play w/ handwritten ciphers ? 04:10:33 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:22:23 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:13:00 --- join: Topaz (jonny@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust217.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 05:19:24 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 05:19:58 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 05:29:43 * crc notes the eerie silence 05:47:09 --- join: jdavidboyd (~user@wbar5.tampa1-4-11-125-246.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 06:20:24 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 06:21:04 --- quit: crc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:22:49 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:34:41 Serg_penguin: Rote Kapelle? 06:34:59 Serg_penguin: But I'm not German, so I don't know for sure.... 06:35:18 Serg_penguin: I have played a little with "manual" ciphers, not a lot. 06:42:14 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 06:42:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 06:45:06 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 06:47:52 Robert: Red Orchestra 06:48:24 Robert: and what ciphers did u try ? 06:48:49 i gone as far as 'playfair' 06:49:56 one of my girls had a nasty mom who poked her nose into girl's notes 06:50:38 so i teached her that nice bigram square thingie ;)) 06:50:45 the mom nearly caught heart attack then she saw the groups'o'five from spy movies ;)) 06:51:07 --- quit: warpzero ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 06:51:07 Hmm... Don't remember 06:51:22 simple substitution ? 06:51:27 That too 06:51:39 And multi-alphabet substitution. 06:51:46 I use runes when I don't want people to see what I write. 06:51:52 hehe ;)) 06:52:07 i just don't write it! 06:52:07 mwuahaha 06:53:13 now i try to invent something easy and non-incriminating, i.e. not requiring to store anything special 06:53:23 like key table 06:54:43 did u ever try to crack cryptograms ? 06:55:08 i only cracked simple subst created by codepages errors 06:56:00 (we here have 4 concurrent codepages, 2 most used, one obsolete DOS, one ISO not used ex for official/academic communications) 06:56:02 --- part: jdavidboyd left #forth 06:56:03 i remember one of the demo progs that came with Squeak was good fun 06:56:12 squeak ? 06:56:14 you could crack substitution ciphers in seconds 06:56:20 the smalltalk-environment-thing 06:56:27 aha... 06:56:46 i was sick of letters coming crypted... 06:57:01 first i coded a proggie what allowed global letters change 06:57:28 second i added pattern word attack, but did not finish it to good working condition 06:59:02 the words like tElEphonE ease things by great degree 06:59:38 (it was the first clue for my first cryptogram cracked) 07:01:40 * arke is away: I'm busy 07:01:54 * arke is back (gone 00:00:02) 07:04:53 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 07:05:01 * arke is away: school :/ 07:08:12 --- join: crc (crc@100-pool2.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 07:19:51 --- nick: saon -> saon|food 07:24:10 * Serg_penguin gonna get from processing a film shot w/ my new cam 07:24:49 --- quit: Serg_penguin () 07:31:17 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 07:31:53 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:46:51 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:53:48 * crc is stupid 07:54:36 I spent just spent three hours trying to locate a bug, only to discover that I forget to add 'RET' at the end of a function 07:54:48 that was your bug 07:54:51 you found it! 07:54:52 Yup 07:54:57 :-) 07:55:09 Now the interpreter for the 16-bit RetroForth is working just fine 07:55:33 * crc prepares to port the compiler... 08:00:45 --- join: arke|school (apache@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) joined #forth 08:01:48 hi ^_^ 08:01:51 Hi 08:01:58 I found the bug :-) 08:02:20 cool :) 08:02:24 without my help too ^_^ 08:02:30 :-) 08:02:44 It was just a forgotton 'ret' at the end of 'find' 08:02:54 lol 08:04:21 It took me three hours to realize it 08:04:33 But now the interpreter is working perfectly :-) 08:08:26 yay :) 08:08:43 hehe lol 08:08:55 my engine simulatgor was running at 60000RPM lol 08:09:23 not good 08:09:39 well 08:10:06 i guess its kinda my own fault if im running 6th gear at around 9000RPM and then suddenly switch to 1st :P 08:10:55 :-) 08:12:27 was going 516km/h 08:13:14 about 322mph 08:13:37 heh, i may make an engine simulator 08:13:43 for the purpose of testing car ECUs 08:13:45 'tis engine braking to the extreme :P 08:18:03 oopts 08:18:10 hehe 08:18:13 nice bug 08:18:20 jumps fromn 15000 to 500 and back 08:25:16 --- nick: saon|food -> saon 08:30:57 bleh 08:30:59 this drawing is harxc 08:35:02 CREATE is almost working 08:36:16 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 08:38:00 hi wossname 08:38:02 crc: awesome. 08:39:31 hello arke 08:39:33 CREATE works :-) 08:42:50 yay :) 08:43:55 * crc is going to go get some food, then sleep. I've made a lot of progress today ;-) 08:44:57 The compiler is almost working too; I just need to fix the handling of literals 08:47:46 --- quit: tgunr1 (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:48:16 code ':'. docolon 08:48:22 jmp create 08:48:23 :) 08:50:31 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:50:47 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 08:52:06 c00k13s! :) 08:53:01 --- join: tgunr (~davec@user-2ivfjvt.dialup.mindspring.com) joined #forth 08:53:40 ! 08:54:09 university is odd 08:54:58 at some point in the classes i got so far, its so easy i fall asleep. and at other parts of the same class i cant even grasp what he's trying to explain 09:01:27 --- quit: arke|school ("CGI:IRC") 09:02:52 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:10:03 --- quit: crc ("Time for bed... Goodnight!") 09:11:31 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@mi183.dn185.umontana.edu) joined #forth 09:11:44 --- join: thin (thin@bespin.org) joined #forth 09:18:20 --- quit: tgunr ("Leaving") 09:33:37 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 09:38:00 --- nick: thin -> cdcue 09:38:06 --- nick: cdcue -> cduce 09:39:46 --- nick: cduce -> thin 09:43:42 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 09:44:14 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@modem-094.nyc-tc03a.FCC.NET) joined #forth 09:44:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 09:45:57 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:21:01 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:22:29 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 10:40:53 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:42:23 --- join: jdavidboyd (~user@wbar5.tampa1-4-11-125-246.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 10:48:07 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 10:54:52 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 11:00:20 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:04:47 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 11:26:17 grr wheres bongo when you need him 11:29:14 On the road? 11:31:33 more importantly, where is that "killacrow" guy, the guy from quebec, i think his name was adam 11:31:48 forget his nick.. not sure if it was killacrow 11:31:52 or something else.. 11:32:08 he was doing some really leet coding 11:33:22 i think he was a real genius or something because his ideas were so monstrous 11:33:44 or it was all the drugs he was taking :) 11:34:01 smoking up salvia divinorum etc 11:34:15 he reminded me of onetom a bit too 11:34:27 onetome, you're leet, stop idling! 11:34:32 where is onetom ? 11:34:39 i mean i see him here 11:34:49 but i never see him chattin no more lol 11:34:56 yeah 11:35:02 i think he's focusing on work 11:35:06 stopped messing with forth 11:35:16 busy with a project or two 11:36:26 thin do you know bongo's email? 11:36:30 aka semtex 11:36:34 aka a few other nicks i cant remember 11:37:17 uh what's his website? the one with the wiki 11:37:31 speuler is his nick 11:37:47 yea speuler 11:37:58 bashforth guy :) 11:38:11 google for bashforth and you'll find the site, and on it you'll find his email :P 11:38:17 ya 11:40:28 --- join: saon (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 11:44:04 --- join: randolm (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 11:46:04 --- quit: jdavidboyd (Remote closed the connection) 11:54:03 arke, ping 11:54:31 arke, the guy who gave the impostor ops in #squeak? they're all making fun of him now :) 11:54:41 how's life? 11:54:41 it's good 11:54:41 been handing out OP privs lately? ;-} 11:56:15 --- join: jdavidboyd (~user@104-170.35-65.tampabay.rr.com) joined #forth 11:58:18 --- quit: jdavidboyd (Remote closed the connection) 12:19:32 --- join: jdavidboyd (~user@wbar5.tampa1-4-11-125-246.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 12:31:50 --- quit: saon ("Leaving") 12:34:44 moooooooooo 12:35:02 i wanna test your forthing skills! 12:35:32 i challenge you all to code a simple program that displays all variations of a 3 character word 12:35:44 the first character is always p 12:35:54 the second character is a vowel 12:36:04 and the third character can be any letter from the alphabet 12:36:14 how would you guys code it? 12:36:15 :P 12:36:38 ariving at the smallest tightest code.. 12:36:54 --- join: cccr (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 12:37:36 got that assignment somewhere? ;) 12:37:36 thin: sounds like a home-work assignment... 12:37:53 qFox: my thoughts exactly 12:40:19 thin, let me try 12:41:08 wait i gotta go sorry :) 12:41:13 jdavidboyd: heh, it's not, considering i was in 2nd year university.. not doing university this year 12:44:59 it hsouldn't be hard to write the program.. 12:45:03 3 words maybe 12:45:12 create vowles ,' aeiou' \ creates an UN-counted string 12:45:14 : think 12:45:16 5 for 12:45:23 vowels r@ + c@ 'p' 12:45:28 26 for 12:45:41 2dup emit emit 12:45:47 r@ 'a' + emit 12:45:51 nxt 12:45:53 2drop 12:45:57 nxt ; 12:46:08 messed up the indenting slightly but you get the idea 12:46:19 maybe i can make it smaller :) 12:46:33 i440r: why don't you keep it all to one line like chuck moore? :P 12:46:42 cuz thats silly 12:46:51 no your silly :P 12:47:46 here $6165696f w, $75790000 w, vowels 12:47:54 : -p?? b+@ $61 26 for $70 emit over emit dup emit 1+ sp next drop ; 12:48:04 : p?? vowels b>a 6 for -p?? next ; 12:48:23 s/vowels/constant vowels/ 12:48:26 on the first line 12:48:48 cool.. two different solutions so far :) 12:49:25 power's out, gotta shut down before my battery dies 12:49:27 they all look like the names of chinese characters lol 12:49:33 --- quit: Herkamire ("bbl") 12:51:46 we should have like a mini coding challenge like every day ;) 12:53:55 --- quit: wossname (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 12:57:12 --- part: jdavidboyd left #forth 12:58:05 my crappy code for the problem: 12:58:07 : P 80 EMIT ; 12:58:07 : VOWEL DUP 25 / VOWELS + C@ EMIT 1+ ; 12:58:07 : ABC SWAP DUP 90 = IF CR DROP 65 THEN DUP EMIT 1+ SWAP ; 12:58:07 : TEST 65 0 150 FOR P VOWEL ABC SPACE NEXT ; 12:58:52 i was going to use more parameter passing between words but got lazy about that and fudged it up 12:59:08 --- join: wossname (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 13:04:18 [21:51:46] we should have like a mini coding challenge like every day ;) 13:04:19 . 13:04:26 agreed. 13:04:38 i'm out. dead tired (its only 10pm!) 13:04:53 --- quit: qFox ("this quit is sponsored by somebody!") 13:06:45 --- join: saon (~Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 13:27:54 --- join: FlamingRain_ (Ecoder@c-24-129-95-254.se.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 13:32:06 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-74-218-202.san.rr.com) joined #forth 13:32:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 13:35:54 --- quit: saon (Success) 13:42:55 --- join: hoosier (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 13:43:21 wossname, is in indiana ??? 13:43:22 lol 13:43:44 :) 13:53:05 gahh...back out again. Back in another hour or so. 13:53:32 --- join: fooglemog (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 13:56:28 --- quit: FlamingRain_ ("Leaving") 14:10:41 --- join: agergz (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 14:28:41 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 14:28:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 14:30:01 thin, here's my program: 14:30:08 "aeiouy" constant vowels 14:30:08 : do.words 14:30:08 vowels $len 14:30:08 for 14:30:08 26 14:30:09 for 14:30:11 "p" type vowels j 1- $asc emit char a 26 i - + emit 14:30:13 cr 14:30:15 next 14:30:17 next 14:30:19 ; 14:31:30 --- join: ih8vb (~wossname@rn-v1w5a06.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 14:36:43 madwork: so... : $asc + c@ ; 14:36:58 ? 14:37:32 $asc ( "string" offset -- character ) 14:37:40 right 14:37:53 So... yea. ;) 14:42:39 Herkamire, your Forth description of $asc is much more elegant than my equivalent C code. :) 14:49:47 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 15:18:24 anyone here know which is better, a multi-scan monitor or acute-scan monitor 15:18:24 i'm suspecting multi-scan heh 15:18:24 i'd guess so 15:18:24 i can't seem to google for information on acute-scan 15:18:24 or a comparison 15:29:29 --- quit: hoosier (Connection timed out) 15:51:43 I don't know what acute-scan is 15:51:50 I thought multiscan meant you could change resolutions 15:59:29 slava, pong 15:59:31 slava, hehehe 16:05:57 --- quit: randolm (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 16:09:42 --- quit: warpzero ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 16:13:59 --- quit: wossname (Connection reset by peer) 16:14:07 --- quit: ih8vb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:14:46 --- quit: agergz (Connection reset by peer) 16:18:22 --- quit: cccr (Success) 16:26:14 --- quit: fooglemog (Connection timed out) 16:33:30 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 16:56:11 I'm working on making herkforth boot :) 16:56:15 the day has arived :) 16:57:56 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:03:24 so has tathi 17:03:27 hi tathi 17:03:28 :) 17:03:36 so has me what? 17:03:39 hi arke 17:03:41 :) 17:03:50 the day has arived :) 17:03:50 --> tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) has joined #forth 17:03:59 I'm working on making herkforth boot :) 17:03:59 oh, arrived. :) 17:04:27 that's very cool. 17:04:35 wish I ready to do that. 17:05:05 though if I didn't keep changing my mind about how the underlying engine should work... :) 17:06:19 :) 17:07:02 arke, thats the order you got it in? 17:07:10 16:56 <@Herkamire> I'm working on making herkforth boot :) 17:07:10 16:56 <@Herkamire> the day has arived :) 17:07:10 16:57 -!- tathi [~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #forth 17:07:10 17:03 < arke> so has tathi 17:07:12 thin, no :P 17:07:15 ok 17:07:22 thin, i pasted wrong, 'tis all 17:07:28 :) 17:07:34 hey thin 17:11:47 hi tathi 17:11:53 how are you doing 17:14:40 tathi 17:14:43 man tzfile 17:14:54 tell me how the fuck do you get local gmt offset from that shit 17:16:03 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-068-209-159-248.sip.shv.bellsouth.net) joined #forth 17:16:27 hi snowrichard :) 17:16:30 hi 17:16:40 how have you been? 17:16:41 thin: I'm good. actually being productive recently, how 'bout you? 17:16:49 86: Finally there are tzh_ttisgmtcnt UTC/local indicators, 17:16:58 i440r: found it i think :P 17:17:03 I440r_: hmm...I see what you mean. 17:17:12 building mozilla on netbsd atm 17:17:57 tathi: trying to be productive :) 17:19:42 thin: :) 17:19:54 tathi i need to know that 17:20:03 otherwise i might as well rm -rf the freebsd sources 17:21:02 --- quit: I440r_ ("Leaving") 17:21:13 --- quit: [Forth] (Remote closed the connection) 17:23:31 --- mode: ChanServ set +o thin 17:23:53 ye gods, that's ugly. 17:24:22 :) 17:25:13 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@ppp-66-124-254-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 17:25:35 I guess you kind of have to do something like that, short of having some scripting language built into the kernel, but still... 17:26:12 it contains a list of the times (unix times, seconds since the epoch) when the local time changes. 17:26:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 17:27:08 --- mode: tathi set -o tathi 17:27:23 thin? :) 17:27:28 my new domain name finally resolves :) 17:27:34 snowrichard, great :) 17:27:43 so...you have to search through to find the most recent transition, then go find the associated GMT offset. 17:27:43 a free .info 17:27:47 snowrichard: celebration time! 17:28:19 snowrichard: cool :) 17:29:04 I don't like the colors in this xterm. the names are just yellow blobs. 17:29:14 and my name is invisible 17:29:56 use aterm anyways it uses less resources 17:30:02 and allows transparency etc 17:30:16 rxvt 17:30:17 :) 17:30:58 this is a brand new netbsd so I don't have much installed yet 17:31:29 isn't the colors in irssi dependent on your theme or something 17:31:43 the default colors don't have names as yellow blobs 17:31:45 yes 17:31:46 I know rtfm 17:31:55 if you mention snowrichard the name is in yello 17:32:01 yup 17:32:11 and I can't see yellow on white 17:33:14 bleh 17:33:22 snowrichard, start the xterm as xterm -fg white -bg black 17:33:25 * tathi can't stand white backgrounds :) 17:33:25 snowrichard: i have the same problem 17:33:48 --- quit: snowrichard ("leaving") 17:33:48 oh, thin has something to tell to you guys... 17:33:49 thin, ;) 17:33:52 LOL 17:33:53 thin, just kidding 17:33:58 arke: or you can set the appropriate X resources, like I do :) 17:34:05 yes thats right 17:34:06 tathi, :) 17:34:14 i'm telling arke how i'm plotting channel take over! 17:34:15 wait.. 17:34:19 i'm already the founder 17:34:20 nevermind 17:34:24 I'M TELLING I440R ON YOU@!11 17:34:29 haha :) 17:34:31 hehe 17:34:51 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@adsl-068-209-159-248.sip.shv.bellsouth.net) joined #forth 17:34:57 that is better 17:35:01 the cat came back! 17:35:19 welcome back snowrichard 17:35:45 hi 17:36:06 snowrichard, working better for you/ 17:36:07 ? 17:36:24 yes I can read both now :) 17:36:35 i turned off auto-ops 17:37:25 --- mode: thin set -o thin 17:37:34 mozilla is like that eveready bunny. it keeps going and going... 17:38:04 that good? 17:38:19 thin: I think he means when it's building... :) 17:38:28 heh 17:38:31 yes I am compiling it 17:38:49 yah, takes forever here. 17:39:09 over 4 hours IIRC 17:39:09 think I'll go see if we have coffee made 17:39:43 (dual-500 MHz G4 processors) 17:39:56 tathi, owwie 17:40:05 are you using gentoolametobecool ? 17:40:07 :P 17:40:09 tathi, i compiled X11 on my 167mhz sparc 17:40:12 tathi, took 2 days 17:40:16 archlinux is t3h b3st 17:40:16 tathi, and then it didn't work 17:40:22 thin you betcha :) 17:40:23 sweet 17:40:29 its fun to compile stuff and not have it work 17:40:35 raises your cortisol levels 17:40:40 thereby lowering your growht hormone levels 17:40:44 arke: :( 17:40:45 thereby reducing your immune system 17:40:48 increasing your fat 17:40:51 and reducing your muscles 17:40:58 * arke looks at stomach 17:40:59 and making you a weak sniveling person 17:41:09 :P 17:41:10 well, i can't see my penis, so i mustv'e had alot of failed compiles :/ 17:41:16 LOL 17:41:37 thin: amazing how the signal-to-noise ratio drops when you're around :P 17:41:58 thats not true 17:42:05 the signal-to-noise ratio goes up 17:42:13 the amount of interesting conversation goes up 17:42:25 and more cool forth discussions happen 17:42:31 and i can prove it 17:42:40 once i went to #osdev and told them all i'd get an interested convo going 17:42:44 I'm just giving you a hard time :) 17:42:54 and boom 10 people were talking and we were all discussing something interesting 17:43:04 and they were amazed that no one was idling :P 17:43:35 cool 17:44:02 it was a few weeks ago heh 17:44:12 well, /me should go to bed; laters all... 17:44:23 nooo 17:44:30 you always leave when the going gets good 17:44:31 :P 17:44:45 it's only 5:45pm anyways 17:44:47 yeah, I have a kind of annoying work schedule 17:44:53 yeah? 17:45:10 i had a job that got me up everyday at 5am 17:45:12 annoying as hell 17:45:25 yeah, I have to be up by about 5am. 17:45:35 i eventually quit 17:45:38 :P 17:45:43 not worth it! :P 17:45:44 I'm a morning person :) 17:45:48 i'm a morning person 17:45:51 but more like 8am 17:45:53 or 9am 17:46:05 I'll often get up and bike 45 minutes to work in the mornings :) 17:46:11 heh :) 17:46:14 is this a computer job? 17:46:21 No, I'm working in a bakery. 17:46:25 ahh 17:46:34 yeah i was making cinnamonbuns and dough and bread 17:46:48 yup. 17:46:58 couldn't find a computer job? 17:47:01 with all the skills you got? 17:47:06 I got bored with the one I had. 17:47:13 do you have a degree? 17:47:22 bachelors in math. 17:47:26 cool 17:47:35 so you don't want computer work? 17:47:48 i hope you like the job then ;) 17:47:49 Well...I haven't seen anything that looks interesting. 17:48:09 I'll probably have a computer job again at some point. 17:48:38 but I find that doing mental work all day long really reduces the energy I have to put into my own projects. 17:48:56 yeah i guess 17:49:01 So I'm taking a couple of years to try and get a system going that I can use instead of Linux. 17:49:06 maybe its best to do some sort of job that lets you save up a bunch of money 17:49:10 well, I realize that's not true for everyone. 17:49:12 then you can take off a few months 17:49:19 yeah. 17:49:22 like tree planting around here pays great 17:49:33 can work like 2 months, make 15 grand 17:49:38 nice. 17:49:38 almost enough to retire for the rest of the year 17:50:04 depending on how much rent you're paying and such. 17:50:40 well basically treeplanting pays on how many trees you plant, average people get about 200 bucks a day. faster people get about 400 to 600 17:50:53 gotcha 17:51:04 i think i'll train up for next year ;) 17:51:08 make a million ;) 17:51:23 i changed the blackbox menu to change the colors of my xterms 17:51:49 hmm... 1,000,000 / 365 = 2740 17:52:00 you'll need to be *really* fast. :) 17:52:20 snowrichard, blackbox is great :) 17:52:30 snowrichard, and so is ion, but you have to spend some time setting up ion 17:53:11 I have a full mandrake 10 instal on my other hard drive. 17:53:13 --- quit: tathi ("*poof*") 17:55:40 --- quit: snowrichard ("Lost terminal") 17:56:13 --- join: zruty (~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 17:58:42 hi poing :) 18:01:46 yeah, I think I rebound all the keys I use in ion 18:02:03 maybe not quite all 18:03:38 i rebound all 18:03:44