00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.08.25 00:00:49 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:06:22 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 00:40:02 --- join: AshyIsMe (~ashy@137.219.145.158) joined #forth 00:49:05 --- quit: OrngeTide ("sleeping") 01:46:01 I440r, how do i get out of isforth? 01:46:06 or do something in it? 01:46:28 i just did 'make' and './extend' and am now running 'isforth' 01:49:17 AshyIsMe: bye 01:49:19 AshyIsMe: :) 01:49:29 AshyIsMe: just type in bye 01:50:14 ok 01:50:23 * Tomasu is away: dlrrp 01:50:30 what exactly can you do in isforth? 01:50:34 --- nick: Tomasu -> TomasuDlrrp 01:50:48 can you type a program and have it executed line by line? 01:56:05 AshyIsMe: Don't know if it can currently, but I'm sure its trivially implemented. 01:56:17 AshyIsMe: would love to help you more, but I gotta sleep XD 01:56:19 good night 01:58:01 cya 02:21:07 --- quit: AshyIsMe () 02:22:42 --- quit: htp123 ("*") 02:51:59 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 02:52:37 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 03:49:09 --- nick: TomasuDlrrp -> Tomasu 03:50:51 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:02:10 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:22:44 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:33:12 --- join: Topaz (jonny@spc1-horn1-6-0-cust217.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) joined #forth 04:33:57 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:52:07 --- join: crc (crc@98-pool1.ras11.nynyc-t.alerondial.net) joined #forth 05:25:01 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 05:31:48 death to lilo. 05:33:20 Why? 05:35:47 Oh, a global message... 05:35:51 * crc goes back to coding 05:37:15 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:54:50 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:02:52 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 06:08:34 --- join: arke (~chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-111.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 06:53:22 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 06:53:56 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 07:10:25 --- quit: SDO (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:23:29 i didnt see no stinkin global :) 07:25:20 [14:31:27] -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. I just wanted to 07:30:03 --- quit: madwork ("whee!") 07:35:13 --- quit: warpzero ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 07:40:10 lol 07:40:34 brb - rebootin work machine after moving mouse so i can let the change take 07:40:36 --- quit: I440r_ ("Leaving") 08:07:42 --- join: madwork (~madgarden@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 08:22:14 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@mi204.dn180.umontana.edu) joined #forth 09:08:18 --- join: jDoctor (~rex@pcp08550359pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:12:44 --- join: I440r_ (~mark4@216-110-82-203.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 09:16:33 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:16:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Herkamire 09:25:04 hi Herkamire 09:26:47 hi all 09:26:53 hi jDoctor 09:27:54 hi arke 09:29:04 anyone knew about my language I was developing? I braught in a bot once. 09:29:16 not long ago.. 09:29:58 jDoctor: I have vague memories 09:30:06 jDoctor: you'll have to remind me though. 09:30:11 was it the one with all the perens? 09:30:16 lol anyway, I had the syntax like 09:30:19 +(2,2). 09:30:23 really ugly syntax 09:30:34 yah you had the right one 09:30:44 I changed it to something pretty 09:30:54 + 2 2] 09:31:18 after the function name, the open bracket is implicit, and we use square brackets instead of parens 09:31:45 +(*(2,3),6) converts to + * 2 3] 6] 09:32:09 that sounds like an improvement 09:32:17 so do you allow adding of more than two things? 09:32:22 like + 2 3 4 5] 09:32:33 yah. that worked already. it was an idea from lisp 09:32:40 same for *(2,2,2) 09:32:46 right 09:32:52 etc. I'm working on my state machine to do this new syntax fix 09:33:05 forth version: 2 3 * 6 + 09:33:21 that is just like factor, dude. 09:33:30 Herkamire: never though writing an assembler/disassembler would be such a pain ^_^ 09:33:34 or. factor is just like that 09:33:56 arke: depends on the arch. my ppc assembler was quite easy to write. 09:34:08 well, this is x86 ... :/ 09:34:17 arke: that's the problem 09:34:20 yeah 09:34:23 I guess my lang is as close to forth as possible, with the stack being hidden. 09:34:34 prefix, using many spaces 09:35:00 while forth is postfix, using spaces already to seperate works 09:35:04 words*. 09:35:46 I'm genna make a function called '[' that just returns the list of function calls given to it as params 09:35:48 and forth uses (generally) fixed (or at least implicit) numbers of arguments, so you don't need the brackets 09:36:46 if you limit + and friends to two arguments, you could dispense with the brackets entirely 09:36:56 so it would read + * 2 3 6 09:37:18 hmm 09:37:23 or + 6 * 23 09:37:27 or + 6 * 2 3 09:37:40 it does mean that you have to tell a function exactly how many arguments it should take 09:37:41 just reverse forth really :) 09:37:48 yah it is 09:37:54 3 2 * 6 + 09:38:08 I generally prefer nown,verb 09:38:10 ordering 09:38:22 <- verb, noun 09:38:31 I picture it as the action being taken on those params 09:38:39 sure 09:38:57 + 2 3: "add 2 and 3" but you can read 2 3 + as "take 2 and 3 and add them" 09:38:59 I like verb,noun for rpgs :) 09:39:06 text-adventure/mud I mean 09:39:16 jDoctor: exactly 09:40:03 I am aiming for variable args though 09:40:13 jDoctor: my experience verb,noun gets harry when your expressions get longer. it's not "add 2 and 3" but "add the result of this stuff and whatever comes after" 09:40:29 the thing is: the implicit open bracket makes nested stuff kinda odd to read 09:40:55 yah I do say that in my head, Herkamire . "add the results of multiplying 2 and 3 to 6" 09:41:05 + * 2 3] 6 09:41:30 I like lisp's idea of making the parse tree explicit (or at least I think it's interesting), but I prefer forth's method of eliminating the tree entirely 09:41:44 in my experience trees to not display or edit well 09:44:45 I could make the function take a set number of args if I used arrays 09:44:53 + 09:45:48 x=[ 2 2 3 4 ] + x ] 09:46:14 hmmm... I guess I don't have long arithmetic constructs much, but I'm concerned how they would come out in your syntax. here's an example from my forth: 09:46:18 wnf-table color @ 5 - 4 * + 09:46:47 it's mapping colors from 5-7 to word-addresses to data in the wnf-table 09:47:09 now I'm going to try to translate into your syntax 09:47:27 * jDoctor didnt get much of the wnf color stuff, but go ahead and translate 09:48:10 + wnf-table * 4 - @ color] 5]] 09:48:53 wnf-table is a branch table. the code is computing the address of the appropriate entry 09:49:09 --- quit: I440r (Nick collision from services.) 09:49:12 --- nick: I440r_ -> I440r 09:49:21 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 09:49:23 --- join: I440r_ (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 09:49:41 hi I440r 09:49:42 hmmm... mine would read more clearly as: color @ 5 - 4 * wnf-table + 09:49:43 hi I440r_ 09:49:52 :) 09:49:53 fixing... 09:50:11 i needed to id to get into #freebsd :/ 09:50:15 I440r: trying to write an x86 disassembler. Jeezus friggin christ. 09:50:26 arke hehe 09:50:34 disassembler would be easier than assembler 09:50:44 o.O 09:50:47 shit 09:50:49 i couldnt write my 8051 assembler till i did the disassembler 09:50:57 arke: not only is it a PITA, but some things are downright impossible. eg you cannot just back up and see what the previous instruction was 09:51:06 the reason I'm writing the disassembler is to help me debug the assembler I'm writing after. 09:51:14 hehe 09:51:19 so, uum 09:51:22 this won't be fun. 09:51:40 * arke appends vocabulary disasm also disasm to the top 09:51:52 man, I missed a bracket 09:52:00 + wnf-table * 4 - @ color] 5]]] 09:52:08 color @ 5 - 4 * wnf-table + 09:52:25 hm I think I will take set number of args 09:52:46 with set args, you can take out the brackets 09:52:50 I440r: doing a table for instructions that take a destination register in their opcode byte 09:52:51 + wnf-table * 4 - @ color 5 09:53:02 I440r: modr/m bytes etc. will be a pain to assemble :/ 09:53:17 :) 09:56:34 and you LAUGH!!! :P 09:56:57 x86 is a pain 09:57:02 indeedn 09:57:28 writing x86 code is easy. writing an x86 assembler/disassembler is a pain 09:57:29 what ASCII char is tab? 09:57:33 09 09:57:33 yes 09:57:38 thanks 09:58:24 : key. key dup . h. ; 10:11:41 --- quit: aphasia (Nick collision from services.) 10:11:42 --- join: aphasia_ (d@ip-65-75-40-47.ct.gemini.ntplx.com) joined #forth 10:24:49 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Hamilton-ppp190662.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 10:30:22 tis teh wossta hi 10:31:14 hi arke ~ 10:37:00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 10:40:27 --- quit: aphasia_ ("[BX] Become a BitchX Certified Systems Engineer today! Apply within!") 10:51:25 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:19:38 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE00096ba44261-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 11:21:14 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-169-92-32.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 11:29:21 is there a word that compiles a word inline? 11:29:35 What? 11:29:39 with that i mean that it doesnt compile a call to the word 11:29:54 but copies the contents of the target word in the word currently defining 11:30:21 for optimization, or for anti-stack-fuckups (due to the call) or whatever 11:30:32 Ah.. 11:30:32 so the source can look clean 11:30:43 I guess that's a bit too Forth-dependant. 11:30:49 k 11:30:58 mental note to self then 11:31:00 :) 11:31:00 Especially if you're using optimizations and/or asm words. 11:31:10 there's an easy way to define words that compile themselves inline 11:31:10 yeah i guess so 11:31:32 And for other words you'd need a word size counter. 11:32:25 well for code words there could be a simple exception, but other words can simply be copied 1 on 1. that shouldnt really be a problem 11:32:35 ohwell nevermind 11:33:40 : macro ( ... -- ) : '; parse postpone sliteral postpone evaluate postpone ; immediate ; 11:34:01 maybe using EVALUATE isn't the cleanest, though 11:34:30 yeah i know. postpone or compile or something, but thats a bit much 11:34:39 well, you use it as follows: 11:34:44 macro 2+ 2 + ; 11:34:49 tec. 11:34:51 etc. 11:34:58 you might want to take a look at the isforth does it 11:35:37 src/ext/inline.f 11:36:01 s/the/how 11:36:27 i was just thinking something like : test 1 2 inline 2>r inline rswap inline 2>r ; 11:36:29 or something 11:36:43 (this would just be a swap effectively, but you get the idea :) 11:37:19 : test 1 2 2>r rswap 2r> ; would work though, since 2>r and friends don't compile calls to colons 11:37:25 but i see what you're saying 11:37:55 like if you want some word to access something you put on the r-stack 11:38:25 i've always wanted such a word too :) 11:38:25 well, if i'd do : 2>r >r >r ; and : rswap r> swap >r ; and : 2r> r> r> ; they would fuck up in most forth's 11:38:28 yes for instance 11:38:31 or to win space 11:38:37 ehr 11:38:39 time 11:38:43 a call is a call 11:38:44 :) 11:39:01 yeah, but who the hell defines 2>r like that :) 11:39:16 simple threaded definition :p 11:39:33 maybe if you want to use coroutines or something... :) 11:39:55 yeah well. i guess i'll live with the less attractive source instead 11:41:18 which forth are you using? 11:41:30 win32forth 11:41:45 but right now its for computing so i'm aiming for speed 11:50:49 and while i'm dreaming, i wished i had some kind of ifdef directive 11:51:32 : defined? ( -- ) name find nip ; 11:51:56 no 11:52:00 : defined? ( -- ) bl word find nip ; 11:52:37 that stack effect should be ( -- flag ) 11:53:07 so then you just do defined? some-wrod [IF] blah ba [THEN] 11:56:15 hm i dont think that has the desired effect 11:58:00 what is the desired effect? 11:58:17 qFox: herkforth has a nice solution for this 11:58:31 although you have to design words to be inlined 11:58:43 any word can have a macro equivilent 11:58:51 (same word name, but with comma prefix) 11:58:58 the desired effect is that if i put in my source something like DONTDEF ;DONTDEF the between will not be compiled 11:59:07 although win32forth does have comment 11:59:07 so there would be a ,>r wich would compile the instructions to push the rstack 11:59:35 but i do mean something like c's #ifdef so that i can have a list of variables stating what components should be compiled and what not 11:59:44 so you could define : ,2>r ,>r ,>r ; 12:00:41 when entered into the source without the comma, in compile color my editor automatically sticks in a _call_ (execute color) to the macro instead 12:00:46 ok, so : ifdef ( -- f ) ' @ ; 12:01:20 Sonarman> well no, because how will that word stop words from being compiled? 12:01:26 true OGGSupport ! 12:01:37 i believe that is some internal component you need to alter 12:01:55 ifdef OGGSupport [IF] 12:01:58 for which i have far too little knowledge of (for win32forth). heck you dont want to mess with w32f anyways :p 12:02:07 : play-ogg blah blah blah ; 12:02:10 [THEN] 12:02:52 you could do it any number of ways 12:03:16 yes but how about this 12:03:20 : mainloop 12:03:23 dostuff 12:03:24 domorestuff 12:03:26 writestuff 12:03:30 doevenmorestuff 12:03:30 ; 12:03:47 what if i didnt want the write stuff, or none of the do stuff 12:03:50 qFox: doesn't look like a loop to me 12:03:51 and i know 12:03:52 and you want to conditionally disable the compilation of parts of mainloop 12:03:55 ah ok 12:03:59 i didnt say loop. 12:04:13 i meant at all 12:04:20 see if you add if's for that 12:04:27 those if's are still compiled (As is the rest) 12:04:29 no, you wouldn't need to modify the internals, i don't think 12:04:34 and the if's are executed, either way. 12:04:42 thats exactly soemthing i'd like to avoid 12:04:52 FORTH is quite amusing... as your profiency at FORTH increases, your programs become simpler and simpler 12:04:56 to just "jump" while compiling, and executing 12:05:06 unlike any other language i know 12:05:16 lisp too 12:05:19 (except maybe LISP) 12:05:21 heh yeah 12:05:22 you'd just need to write an immediate word that checks a variable, and then either just lets the code continue compiling, or jumps to the end of the "special" part 12:05:29 exactly 12:05:34 FORTH and LISP aren't totally dissimilar, it has to be said 12:05:34 that would mean messing with the internals 12:05:37 io 12:05:37 imo 12:05:38 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:06:09 Topaz, my factor language combines aspects of boht 12:06:29 i'm just saying, i'd really like ifdef, but its not something easily done in forth 12:06:45 why do you need ifdef? 12:06:51 qFox: i should have one done in a few minutes. 12:06:55 just put the bits you want conditionally compiled in another source file 12:07:06 thats the alternative yes 12:07:17 but it would still mean you'd have to have an if 12:07:25 hm 12:07:27 no wait 12:07:35 nevermind that 12:07:51 but to create an extra file for every bit of code is very undesireable 12:08:04 factor does sound interesting 12:09:12 Sonarman> i'm very curious to your solution, if its "valid" 12:09:13 and somewhat buggy and incomplete :) 12:09:24 (factor, not Sonarman's solution) 12:16:07 qFox: got it 12:16:17 \ gets new word from input stream. if at EOL, refill input buffer and try again 12:16:17 : name-> 12:16:17 name dup 0= if 2drop refill drop recurse exit then ; 12:16:17 12:16:17 : #endif ; immediate 12:16:19 12:16:22 : defined? ( -- f ) 12:16:24 bl word find nip ; 12:16:27 12:16:29 : #ifdef ( -- ) 12:16:32 defined? if exit then begin name-> s" #endif" compare while repeat ; immediate 12:16:34 12:16:37 : enableBlag ; 12:16:39 : test 12:16:42 #ifdef enableBlag 12:16:45 ." blag enabled" cr 12:16:47 #endif 12:16:50 #ifdef enableQwax 12:16:52 ." qwax enabled" cr 12:16:55 #endif ; 12:17:01 why is blag enabled by default? 12:17:10 i think most users obviously want qwax 12:17:26 i believe that blag is far superior 12:17:32 haha 12:17:37 what's blag/qwax? ;) 12:17:44 Topaz: RTFM 12:17:57 :D 12:18:02 :D 12:18:21 * Topaz consults the Book Of Foo(tm) 12:20:28 wrong volume 12:20:31 it's in Baz 12:25:05 * Herkamire makes an addition to his notes file: 12:25:06 foo, bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud. 12:29:17 IIRC the scsh manual has the BEST variable names 12:29:21 * Sonarman looks for them 12:30:02 (foo frobbotz) 12:30:02 (blatz garglemumph)) 12:30:16 heheheheheeh 12:30:20 hahaha 12:30:46 garglemumph, woah 12:32:18 --- quit: wossname ("kris what") 12:36:18 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:46:12 * Tomasu is back (gone 10:55:49) 13:41:30 --- quit: Fractal (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:46:31 --- join: Fractal (jah@selling.kernels.to.linus.torvalds.at.hcsw.org) joined #forth 13:51:05 Hi there 13:56:49 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 14:15:13 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 14:15:42 Herkamire, here ya go. 800Mhz PowerPC board that is only 3" long. http://www.8080.net/html/200403/n131128030.html 14:16:30 ooh, doubles as a coffee table? 14:20:00 eheh. 800mhz ought to keep your cup warm t oo 14:21:05 --- join: kuvos (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 14:21:09 --- quit: kuvos (Client Quit) 14:21:12 damn! 14:21:49 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@82-169-140-229-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl) joined #forth 14:21:53 qFox! 14:22:24 goddamnit 14:22:30 i feel so stupid right now 14:22:36 and clueless 14:22:41 :( 14:22:46 What are you failing with? 14:22:51 i had a trojan on my server 14:22:59 for 3 days 14:23:06 that sucks!! 14:23:08 what puzzles me is how it got there in the first place 14:23:13 did you see the #ifdef code? 14:23:28 i've had it from the moment i first got internet on that installation of 2k 14:23:45 Sonarman> no sorry, the moment i figured i actually did have a trojan i went beserk 14:24:05 thing is, first time my server made contact with internet, it went haywire 14:24:15 i noticed 14:24:30 some deuchbag that i gave a free shell account to was "testing" exploits before. "just to see if it was secure" .. maybe your own user installed the trojan 14:24:30 oh 2k. 14:24:34 and did some netstat stuff and checked running procs but saw nothing in the proclist 14:24:50 i did see a huge bunch of connections in netstat, but they all pointed to tiscali, my new provider 14:25:03 my gf's windows box is so full of viruses, spyware and hacks that it's not even funny. 14:25:04 being new with adsl i kinda figured that was normal, even thoug ha voice in my head said that was stupid 14:25:23 over the past two days i notice i had a continous upload of about 3-5k 14:25:28 qFox, geez 14:25:34 still, i figured thats just adsl, what do i know 14:25:35 you musta been part of some DDoS thing 14:25:48 well i found some logs indicating i was part of a botnet 14:25:57 i had the frogger backdoor 14:26:08 i hate people who do that kind of crap. 14:26:10 explorer32.exe (why the fuck i did not see that executable before god knows) 14:26:27 you didn't see it because you weren't looking for that kind of stuff. 14:26:30 no i was 14:26:54 i know most of the default windows procs that are supposed to be running 14:27:11 but this is a adv server that has a couple of extra crap procs running 14:27:38 i've shut almost anything down now, but i'm still at a complete loss how i got the damn trojan in the firs tplace 14:27:42 it was a clean installation 14:27:46 explorer32.exe isn't a default windows proc? 14:27:50 no 14:27:51 explorer is 14:27:57 sneaky 14:28:04 explorer32 is a common way to make it look real 14:28:19 the only real versions are explorer.exe and iexplore.exe anything else is fake and virus 14:28:36 i did not know that. i'll have to pick through my gf's box tonight. 14:28:56 so what does explorer32.exe do? monitor some port and give any connecting computer admin privileges? 14:28:56 well i'm a customed to checking out procs and see whats not supposed to run 14:28:58 that sounded dirty. but you know what i meant 14:29:18 thats why i feel so goddamn stupid right now 14:29:31 i should never have thought it was something to do with my isp 14:29:37 bah. 14:29:43 explorer32 is a backdoor, one of many 14:29:51 couldnt find anything readable in the executable 14:30:03 isn't there some scanner that can automatically find that stuff? 14:30:06 i did find some irc server log, but nothing in there i could actually log on to unfortunatly 14:30:15 yes i'm running an online scanner right now 14:30:18 just in case 14:30:46 yikes. another 3 hits 14:30:52 what the hell wasx going on there 14:31:39 qFox, did you have the latest Win2K service packs and updates installed? 14:31:58 c:\winsows\system32\vsmon.exe \windowsup.exe and \autoclk.exe 14:31:59 yes 14:32:16 that was actually what i thought was going haywire the first time that box got internet 14:32:18 What ports do you have open? I recently got a trojan when I opened the RPC ports. 14:32:25 i figured it was downloading updates and patches and whatever 14:32:34 right now i only have a few left 14:32:52 although i'm not comfortable with 139 open, i believe its not a good idea to shut it either 14:33:08 hold on i want to get rid of these three files 14:33:13 why? I've got very few open ports. 14:33:52 if you cut your network cable you'd be trojan-proof. 14:34:49 On a side note, I think I'm to the point in my MFC+Forthy adventures where passing Forth code in windows messages would be simpler and more flexible than making a bunch of WM_BLAH handlers that suck info out of lParam and wParam. 14:34:57 maybe you should firewall everything but http, https, smtp and pop? 14:35:04 well at least those three files werent running 14:35:15 well thats just it, i detest firewalls and virusscanners 14:35:22 they slow things down and are a regular pain in the ass 14:35:32 qFox, I use AVG, the free virus scanner. 14:35:32 madwork, interesting. 14:35:41 i've been online for over 5 years without a firewall and no problems 14:36:00 for ddossattacks you add the sender to the filter, and you shut the box off properly. 14:36:09 free scanner? man. i should use that. 14:36:10 i just dont understand how i got the trojan 14:36:26 i've scanned the box now and think i got rid of pretty much everything 14:36:33 just one port open i'm not quite sure about 14:36:39 qFox, if you had some open ports before you installed your Win2K updates, you probably got script kiddied with the various exploits. 14:36:39 but its controlled by svchost 14:36:50 the moment i get online? 14:36:53 YES. 14:36:58 That's exactly what happened to me. 14:36:59 the instant... 14:37:02 qFox, I used to work for a dsl provider. the always-on nature of dsl attracts a lot of people to scan our ip blocks. 14:37:12 well, possibly, if you say so. 14:37:20 the box has been updated in the mean time 14:37:20 I didn't have those RPC ports open for very long, and BAM. Trojan. 14:37:39 well no this was really instantly 14:37:48 the modem gets internet 14:37:51 qFox, then I guess it was a magic trojan. 14:37:52 the computer gets online 14:37:56 and it went haywire 14:37:58 i guess. 14:38:02