00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.08.07 00:04:02 --- quit: Mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:19:41 --- join: htp123 (~tehsux@S0106000d6151238b.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 00:57:25 --- quit: Mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 00:58:04 --- join: Mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:33:06 --- join: Mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 01:45:23 --- quit: Mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:08:38 Hi all! 02:08:55 Just a notice to everybody - the F2 microkernel is finished! 02:09:05 ^__^ 02:11:42 oh yeah? 02:11:46 your own doing? 02:14:12 not really ;) 02:14:28 its adapted from Robert's F 02:14:50 so this is actually stripped down somewhat. 02:15:04 does it support servers etc? 02:15:10 I left out multitasking, as its not needed yet and not tested enough. And thus, also the PIT and IPC code 02:15:14 heh, no 02:15:34 just equal processes. 02:15:38 its minimal. 02:20:30 what is it written in? 02:21:17 assembly 02:21:25 x86? 02:21:31 yes 02:21:39 which is not the greatest arch 02:21:41 but it works 02:21:47 cool 02:21:47 and Robert and I both know it well 02:21:52 and theres tons of docs 02:21:55 :) 02:21:55 yeah 02:32:25 Heh, calling F a microkernel... 02:35:38 --- join: Mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 02:36:36 Robert: it is now ... ;) 02:47:01 --- quit: Mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:54:22 --- join: Mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 04:02:46 --- nick: Tomasu -> TomasuDlrrp 04:02:51 * TomasuDlrrp is away: night 04:06:53 --- join: crc (crc@0-1pool0-79.nas26.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 04:06:53 --- quit: Mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:44:06 --- nick: Mur_ -> mur 05:01:18 --- quit: mur (Remote closed the connection) 05:01:51 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 05:11:26 --- join: ASau (~root@217.16.31.100) joined #forth 05:11:47 Dobry den! 05:13:19 Privet, ASau :) 05:14:18 Good morning ASau 05:17:33 * crc is glad he had the retroforth.org site switched to a different server 05:17:46 The old one died yesterday... 05:17:54 Ouch 05:18:06 Was it one you paid for? 05:18:18 I paid for hosting on it 05:18:36 But the company switched me to a new server a week ago :-) 05:19:05 Ah, OK. 05:51:50 --- join: ASau_ (~root@217.16.31.100) joined #forth 05:51:50 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:52:09 --- nick: ASau_ -> ASau 06:04:35 Yay! I just managed to boot a minimal RetroForth/Native using the 7.0 core! 06:04:43 cool 06:05:19 Still has a long way to go before I have everything I want in it, but it's at least useable as a standalone Forth now 06:08:39 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:08:56 --- join: ASau (~root@217.16.31.100) joined #forth 06:11:31 --- join: Serg[GPRS] (~z@193.201.231.126) joined #forth 06:11:57 Hi p 06:11:58 er 06:11:59 Serg[GPRS] 06:12:00 hiya-a-a-a! 06:40:22 hey, whta about IRC in cellfone 06:40:29 ? 06:40:47 or e-mail in J2ME ? 07:04:18 * crc just uploaded RetroForth/Native 7.1 and added it to the download page 07:10:47 Serg[GPRS]: you want an email client in J2ME? 07:11:05 yes ! 07:11:19 two-way, both get and send 07:14:22 --- join: Ansuz (~user@p508CDFAA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 07:16:09 http://www.reqwireless.com/download-emailviewer.html (commercial, 10 day demo, $20 to purchase) 07:17:13 no, no .. 07:20:27 http://mail4me.objectweb.org/ (free, pop3 & imap, send/recieve) 07:22:03 --- join: sallust (~sallust@80.180-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #forth 07:22:06 tnx, noted 07:22:25 anyway, i'm devoid of comp/inet most of time... 07:22:26 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:23:37 I have access to a computer + internet 18+ hours each day 07:29:35 does it have direct link for download by phone ? 07:30:55 The laptop is always plugged in, and connects whenever I request an email check or web site 07:31:19 The others aren't always connected, but I have connectors+cords in every room :-) 07:32:10 I have a laptop, two desktops, an HP Jornada 680, and a Palm Tungsten E 07:32:29 hehe 07:32:31 I also have a cellphone that I can browse the web (very slowly) on 07:33:15 * Serg[GPRS] now rents a room so can't afford much 07:33:18 I have three more computers at my parent's home 07:33:53 I obtain most of them from the trash, fix them up, and find uses for them :-) 07:34:02 I can't afford much either... 07:34:33 Though I will be getting a small ARM-based computer later this year to port RetroForth to... 07:34:47 * Serg[GPRS] has to look at trash too 07:34:55 my 1st box was from trash ;)) 07:35:53 My first was an old 386 that someone gave me to play with. My brother dug a bunch out of the trash for me later on :-) 07:36:12 I got the laptop & PDA as a graduation gift 07:36:32 And I traded a Zaurus SL-5500 that I bought for the Jornada 680 07:36:39 * Robert got his laptop as a graduation gift. 07:36:58 Mmm... faster than all my other (9) computers together. 07:37:01 * crc has an article about Forth that Robert wrote on the Jornada :-) 07:37:31 Did I write an article about Forth? 07:37:31 I'm thinking of clustering everything except the PDA, Jornada, and laptop... 07:37:47 * crc thinks it was by Robert 07:37:51 * crc is checking... 07:37:53 Oh.. Perhaps. 07:38:48 It's an introduction to Forth 07:39:38 I think I know which one you mean. 07:45:01 Yup, http://robert.zizi.org/pub/projects/pa/forth.rtf :-) 07:45:34 Old :) 07:54:02 --- join: ASau (~root@217.16.31.100) joined #forth 07:54:43 Dobryjj vecher, Serg! 07:54:55 Anything new? 07:55:17 yeah ! 07:56:48 * Serg[GPRS] rented a room, took vacation and entered TR's course at Scientology center ;)) 07:57:09 TR's = [communication] training routines 08:00:25 auditing? 08:01:20 this is known as fundamental auditor's training, but as good for everyday life 08:01:33 * Serg[GPRS] is certified Dianetics auditor 08:02:46 it was long ago, but this things are hard to forget - "Golden Age of Tech" training makes it forever, since one learned 08:03:58 TR's are drills of basic communication aspects 08:04:32 ah 08:06:02 Brr. 08:06:17 Scientologists suck. 08:12:49 ASau: did u see this, or judge by someone's words ? 08:13:20 Better you go into CPKiO and pick up a girl there. 08:13:37 ...to CPKiO... 08:14:34 i did this damn tens of times - bad result 08:15:16 All these organizations, like "youth against sex before marriage", suck. 08:15:32 They're to go HAX. 08:15:35 'Cause HEX. 08:15:58 i like bright, clever, self-standing girls - NOT the ones hanging around in park waiting for pick-up 08:16:27 and THIS org is not against anything 08:16:27 Serg, you don't know the places. 08:17:33 it started as self-help thing (like NLP later), rapidly hit the past-life memories and named "religion" 08:17:39 but retained self/co-help nature ;))) 08:17:40 --- join: mur_ (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 08:18:03 what is Black Dianetics? 08:18:17 Serg, they masquerade: "youth for marriage before sex." 08:18:50 Or: "youth for strong family." 08:20:51 these are "Unification Church", 'moonies' 08:21:00 Serg, I can tell you a story about psychologist. 08:21:21 Black Dianetics is use of white one for bad purposes 08:21:54 who uses Black Dianetics? 08:23:16 After those meetings I've understood, that only crazy men can ever deal with such organizations. 08:26:30 zardon: crazy evil men, "squirrels" (ones who change tech) 08:28:27 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:30:07 --- quit: Serg[GPRS] ("Gotta run !") 08:41:22 --- quit: crc ("Time for bed... Goodnight all!") 08:50:33 anyone seen tathi ? 08:53:26 Not in a while 08:54:47 grrr dangit :P 08:54:51 go get him robert 08:55:15 * Robert grabs his bike 08:56:02 --- quit: I440r ("brb, swapping CPU's :)") 09:33:44 --- part: Ansuz left #forth 09:57:08 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 09:57:43 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:25:01 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 11:37:27 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:46:20 --- quit: sallust (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:47:20 --- nick: TomasuDlrrp -> Tomasu 11:47:22 * Tomasu is back (gone 07:44:32) 11:51:52 --- join: sallust (~sallust@5.137-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) joined #forth 12:09:28 God kvaell, sallust. 12:17:21 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 12:28:09 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:35:42 --- quit: sallust (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:19:46 --- join: mur_ (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 13:20:08 --- join: sallust (~reynaert@246.40-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #forth 13:32:19 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:37:01 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:37:54 --- nick: mur_ -> mur 14:29:50 --- join: I440r_ (~mark4@216-110-82-204.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 14:30:00 hi I440 14:30:13 --- nick: uxx -> rpc 14:37:50 --- quit: I4404__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:59:48 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@207.111.96.12) joined #forth 14:59:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 15:06:25 --- join: mur_ (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 15:08:31 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:23:32 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 15:24:04 --- join: mur (~mur@mgw2.uiah.fi) joined #forth 15:24:20 mur moi 15:24:32 Hoi. :) 15:24:57 Robert hoi ;) 15:26:13 Hur gaat es with dig? 15:49:27 gotta go...all bye 15:49:30 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 16:05:03 anybody around? 16:05:27 yah 16:07:29 i just got factor working on 32-bit SPARC :) 16:07:38 so that's x86, ppc32, sparc32 supported. 16:07:45 factor? 16:07:48 64-bit arches are next but not for a couple of weeks 16:07:56 htp123, my forth-like (vaugely) language 17:08:18 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 17:10:53 --- quit: mur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:27:55 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-59.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 17:29:09 Hey 17:29:25 hi 17:30:47 hi 17:30:50 wheres tathi lol 17:51:32 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 18:04:03 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:35:48 --- join: doublec (~doublec@coretech.co.nz) joined #forth 18:37:16 doublec! 18:39:18 hi slava! 18:40:50 doublec, have you tried the factor jedit plugin? 18:42:00 slava, no, not yet. Have you more work on it? 18:43:04 doublec, it has reload current buffer in factor, eval selection in factor 18:43:18 doublec, and you can type "foo" jedit in the interpreter to open the source definition of foo 18:43:50 slava, very nice! I'll take a look. 18:44:08 doublec, maybe tonight i'll get the word list in the editor going 18:44:17 doublec, code completion is also quite easy to add 18:44:26 doublec, since jedit has various frameworks for all this 18:44:38 doublec, check out my screenshot at factor.sf.net/snap.png 18:44:55 slava, how does it communicate with factor? Through the telnet implementation? 18:45:09 doublec, embeds it. socket commuication is planned later 18:45:19 doublec, since it would be nice to run native factor this way too 18:45:27 cool! 18:45:53 I'll definitely take a look since it'll save the 'copy/paste' or reloading of files way I do currently. 18:46:12 for native factor i use a set of macros with similar features currently. 18:46:22 what's your EditorOfChoice? 18:47:02 currently emacs since I do mostly Scheme and it has good support for it. 18:47:16 but i pretty much tend to use whatever is handy. 18:47:38 most everyone else where I work uses jedit tho. 18:47:44 really? 18:47:47 yep 18:48:11 they were amazed when I told them I chatted to the author of jedit often. 18:48:52 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 18:48:53 its just a text editor, its not like i cured AIDS 18:49:11 true 18:49:46 :) 18:49:52 have you done any hacking on cont-responder lately? 18:49:53 but commonly used software packages (especially editors) get a following and people don't relalize than ordinary developers develope them. 18:50:23 not for the last couple of days. I've got a project to finish in the next two days for work so have been sidetracked by that. 18:50:32 ok, no problem 18:50:45 what other SLIME features can I emulate in the plugin? 18:50:54 do you use any fancy scheme mode in emacs? 18:51:11 I use 'quack' but none of the features of it really. 18:51:22 I mainly just use the 'evaluate last s-expression'. 18:51:29 and load file. 18:51:58 occasionally evalulate highlited region. 18:52:05 one thing i just thought of is highlighting known word names in the buffer, by looking at USE: and IN: declarations 18:52:17 that would be cool. 18:52:35 oh yeah, I use 'autocomplete' too. 18:53:07 basically the SideKick plugin provides a framework for language stuff on top of jEdit's modes framework. once I write a sidekick module for factor, we'll get completion, browsing and live error checking 'for free'. 18:53:31 very nice 18:53:59 and this is much easier than eg a java module, since we have a usable parser api. 18:57:30 doublec, a major disadvantage of the plugin is that if you do an infinite loop, the editor does down 18:57:57 slava, http://www.xoltar.org/2004/aug/05/jedit-nice-mode.html 18:58:04 More people discovering jedit :) 18:58:18 Is that because it's embedded and the call never returns? 18:58:31 doublec, yeah, it all runs in the event loop 18:58:45 doublec, i don't want to put it in its own thread because many of jedit's apis are not thread safe, and i'd like to be able to use them 18:58:52 doublec, out-of-process factor will fix the problem eventually i guess. 18:59:51 i'll email that guy to see if he wants the mode in the distribution. 19:00:17 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:00:25 slava, maybe a thread that calls the factor stuff and waits on a lock that the factor code releases. It can then time that out if need be? 19:01:48 too complicated ;) 19:02:19 :) 19:02:47 i'll try and have all the same features available over the socket protocol 19:03:36 did you have a look at the pragmatic parsing paper? 19:03:41 not yet. 19:03:48 along with the FP paper, those are still in my pile 19:04:16 so many good papers to read, so little time. 19:04:23 yeah 19:04:46 I have a pile of papers on making web applications secure that I've been working through. 19:04:56 the stack effect of make-image has chagned to ( image -- ) 19:05:06 you can define : mi "factor.image" make-image ; in your ~/.factor-rc 19:05:12 ok, thanks. 19:05:24 reason i made the change is that when running the plugin from jEdit, CWD is not necessarily the factor dir 19:05:29 is that in CVS now? 19:05:32 and java provides no way of changing the current process cwd 19:05:33 yes 19:06:38 i get build errors in the java cvs code 19:06:52 what file? 19:06:52 ahh, it's the jedit stuff. 19:06:55 oops 19:07:01 i need to fix build.xml 19:07:46 for jedit do you recommend the development or stable version for the factor stuff? 19:08:27 the plugin requires the devel 19:08:35 ok 19:08:38 you might even use cvs 19:08:57 I'll do that 19:09:31 cvs is basically 4.2final (pending resolution of PDF doc build!!!) it has the factor mode included 19:09:47 i updated factor build.xml in cvs 19:09:55 ok thanks 19:09:57 now, it will only build the jedit stuff if the jedit classes are in your class path. 19:10:16 so to build the plugin version, env CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:.../jedit.jar ant 19:12:04 ok, all builds and runs now. 19:17:48 --- join: mur (~mur@kyberias.uiah.fi) joined #forth 19:17:55 I see you've changed the gui look too. 19:18:27 slava, how do I use the factor mode from jedit? 19:19:13 are you using jedit from cvs, or devel pre15? 19:19:16 cvs 19:19:20 its already there 19:19:29 fiels with .factor extension will open with factor mode 19:19:34 I can see I'm in factor mode and it's syntax highlited etc. 19:19:36 otherwise, add this to the first 10 lines of the file: 19:19:41 :mode=factor: 19:19:48 oh a jedit 'mode' is just syntax highlighting 19:19:48 looks cool! 19:19:51 there's nothing else ;) 19:20:09 but build Factor.jar with jedit support, and stick it in ~/.jedit/jars/ 19:20:18 then either restart jedit or go plugins->plugin manager, and load the plugin there 19:20:46 --- quit: mur_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:22:15 what does the jedit support in Factor.jar do? 19:22:50 it adds a menu Plugins->Factor 19:23:18 you can assign shortcuts to these commands etc 19:24:02 i use A+f f run file, A+f s evaluate selection, A+f l listener 19:25:26 I don't see a 'Plugins->Factor'. I do see 'Factor.jar' loaded in the plugin manager tho. 19:25:46 that means it didn't compile with the jedit support 19:25:54 ahh, you're rogjt 19:25:57 err, right 19:26:22 just unload it, recompile it, and reload it 19:27:50 hmm, I can't get ant build to build the jedit support in. I have the jedit jar in my classpath. weird. 19:28:01 doublec, ok, try editing build.xml, there is a line like this: 19:28:07 19:28:10 remove the if= part. 19:29:34 ok, that gave me the plugins/factor option. Selecting Factor/Listener gives me 'Unknown action: factor' 19:30:12 oh 19:30:15 i forgot to add a file to cvs 19:30:53 doublec, do a cvs up and confirm that actions.xml and dockables.xml exist at the root of the Factor/ dir and rebuild 19:32:34 that did it, nice! 19:34:29 thanks for your help, I'll definitely be using this. 19:35:09 doublec, i'll have something using the sidekick plugin framework checked in tonight 19:35:17 ok 19:35:19 doublec, then you'll see next/prev word definition actions at least 19:35:26 doublec, and probably a word list window 19:35:41 note that almost all windows are 'dockable' so you can have it either way 19:35:52 ok, cool 20:09:31 slava, In jvm factor, If I do 'clear' I get the following on the stack: 20:09:36 { "\e[2J\e[H" } 20:09:47 doublec, you're calling clear from the ansi vocab 20:09:54 doublec, is there USE: ansi in your ~/.factor-rc? 20:10:02 yes, that's it. Thanks. 20:10:08 add USE: builtins after it 20:16:23 --- join: solar_angel (~jenni@MTL-ppp-157567.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 20:17:03 hi solar_angel 20:17:09 hi slava 20:17:25 i'm going insane 20:17:31 trying to get some java software to generate PDFs 20:17:38 lol 20:17:46 i'm writing procedural texturing software. 20:17:50 in, of all things, a mix of C and Python 20:18:09 sounds like more fun than i'm having 20:18:32 hehehe, not really. 20:18:37 i have to write a modulo distance function. 20:41:46 --- join: mur_ (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 20:46:11 --- quit: htp123 ("*") 21:01:20 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:13:22 --- quit: solar_angel ("nyo") 21:13:31 ping slava 21:13:35 yo 21:13:45 slava, http://factor.modalwebserver.co.nz:9000/test/ 21:13:50 native factor httpd! 21:14:04 nice! 21:14:14 i take it 'test' is the only responder that runs :) 21:14:18 a real hack though. 21:14:19 :) 21:14:23 'inspect' should work wihtout any effort 21:14:28 how much of a hack? 21:14:38 I coded regexp that checked for the strings that httpd uses and wrote routines to do it. 21:14:56 So I could obviously hack httpd to use the new words 21:15:06 can you send me the source? 21:15:12 yup 21:15:27 It's ugly though. I just quickly did it to see how easily I could bring it up. 21:15:37 Inspect works but nothing appears 21:15:44 (except for 'global') 21:16:12 well, send me the source and i'll try to reuse as much as I can when i get httpd running in a proper manner in the next few days 21:16:14 http://factor.modalwebserver.co.nz:9000/inspect/ 21:16:34 yup. I'm heading off soon so thought I'd spend half an hour trying it out. Nice to know it's not far away at all. 21:16:37 that's odd -- is broken? 21:18:31 seems to be 21:21:14 slava, "stdio" get [ 5 write ] with-stream 21:21:18 slava, should that work? 21:21:25 in java it exits the interpreter 21:22:41 you're right 21:22:43 i'll investigate 21:23:54 doublec, oh i see now 21:23:59 doublec, with-stream closes the stream when its done. 21:24:04 slava, ahh, ok. 21:24:07 doublec, one solution i can propose is disabling fclose on stdio 21:24:17 since it gets closed when we exit anyway, right? 21:24:22 why else would you close stdio? 21:24:24 slava, sounds good 21:24:39 slava, no reason that I can think of immediately 21:24:54 doublec, i'll make a new 21:24:59 ok 21:27:34 doublec, update cvs 21:27:49 ok 21:28:54 ( 1 ) "factor.image" make-image 21:28:54 ERROR: factor.FactorParseException: resource:/library/platform/native/stream.factor:107: Undefined: 21:30:02 dang i didn't test the native factor :) 21:30:04 cvs up and try agian. 21:31:27 slava, that fixed it. The closing of stdio is no longer a problem too. 21:39:55 slava, a slight c factor difference. Any comment line (with a '!') that has a colon in it ':' causes an error. 21:41:58 doublec, rather, ! must have a space after it. 21:42:12 slava, ahh, that'll be it. 21:42:20 I'll fix my cont-html code. 21:42:44 you'll find that a) native factor is more pedantic about syntax b) its error reporting sucks. 21:42:46 b will be fixed. 21:42:58 a is the *reason* the native parser is so short :) 21:43:02 :) 21:44:04 What's the equivalent of ' define' in native factor? 21:44:25 define ( word quot -- ) 21:44:37 i need to abstract this difference away 21:44:41 i haven't got around to it yet. 21:57:16 slava, in native factor '65 write' prints 'A' instead of '65'. Is that correct? 21:58:42 yes. 21:58:45 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-33-167-9.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 21:58:48 there is no implicit >str in native factor 21:59:01 write interpetes a fixnum as a char 21:59:14 to write code that runs in both, only pass strings to write 21:59:21 ok, cont-responder mostly works except for that so I'll patch it up and then I'll have cont-responder working in native factor. 22:00:00 --- join: hefner (~hefner@pool-141-157-14-108.balt.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 22:00:31 doublec, its great that you got it working so easily 22:00:52 doublec, did you tacke de-regexpifying url-encoder yet? 22:01:28 because i was going to do that myself right now :) 22:02:22 "[a-zA-Z0-9/_?]" is the only re in it so I wrote a function that did it manually. 22:02:46 ugly though as it checks for each option in a cond :-) 22:02:58 all 60 odd lines... 22:03:06 wait 22:03:14 i have something almost identical elsewhere 22:03:32 * slava is going to hell for pasting this here 22:03:33 in native factor, how do I convert a number to a string? 22:03:34 : letter? CHAR: a CHAR: z between? ; 22:03:34 : LETTER? CHAR: A CHAR: Z between? ; 22:03:34 : digit? CHAR: 0 CHAR: 9 between? ; 22:03:34 : printable? CHAR: \s CHAR: ~ between? ; 22:03:35 : quotable? ( ch -- ? ) 22:03:37 #! In a string literal, can this character be used without 22:03:39 #! escaping? 22:03:41 dup printable? swap "\"\\" str-contains? not and ; 22:03:46 doublec, str>number -- to fail with exception 22:03:53 parse-number -- to fail by pushing f 22:04:01 ahh, that's it. 22:04:06 the latter exists in java factor too. 22:04:33 i think we can start the 'regex replacement' with something for character classes 22:05:15 sorry, I want to convert a number into a string: 5 -> "5" 22:06:24 oh sorry oops 22:06:26 number>str 22:06:35 --- join: LOOP-HOG (~jdamisch@sub22-119.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 22:06:42 wait 22:06:45 that doesn't appear to be in native factor 22:06:47 better to use unparse 22:06:56 unparse ( obj -- str ) 22:07:01 unparse is tho. Thanks 22:07:14 in native factor, it works with 'atoms' -- strings, numbers, booleans. 22:07:26 in java factor you can unparse lists and vectors too, but don't rely on this 22:08:01 ok 22:08:17 i'll write a document describing the differences at some stage. 22:08:19 mostly they're minor 22:10:04 a couple of the cont-responder examples now work! 22:10:32 cool! 22:10:55 there's the odd funny character here and there due to me writing numbers out so I'll hunt those down. 22:14:28 how do? 22:14:32 slava, I've sent you the files and instructions on how to get it going. 22:14:57 --- nick: LOOP-HOG -> FORTH-MEME 22:15:35 obviously doing what I'm doing to get regexp working is not a good idea. 22:15:50 But it'll be trivial to modify httpd to not use it instead. 22:16:17 doublec, the factor plugin now 'parses' files with a dummy function 22:16:26 doublec, this means i remember how to use all my APIs :) 22:16:36 :) 22:16:58 now to generate the list of words. this is actually easier than setting up the services.xml for the plugin etc :) 22:24:01 --- join: crc (crc@0-1pool0-4.nas26.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 22:24:06 hi 22:24:16 Hello 22:24:18 --- quit: mur_ (Remote closed the connection) 22:24:37 have you hugged a FORTH lately? 22:24:53 * crc is the developer of RetroForth :-) 22:24:54 --- join: mur (~mur@uiah.fi) joined #forth 22:25:01 * slava hugs FORTH-MEME 22:25:05 :^) 22:25:18 lol 22:25:20 * slava goes back to writing java code :-P 22:25:41 haha 22:40:42 doublec, still there? 22:41:29 slava, yes 22:41:43 doublec, is it ok if i change the plugin to have one global interpreter, and not per-view? 22:41:57 each view would have its own repl, but they'd share their namespaces etc 22:42:12 slava, sounds fine to me. 22:42:30 right now they're completely independent, but sidekick has no notion of 'parsing buffer X in view Y' 22:42:33 only 'parsing buffer X' 22:48:22 I'm heading off now. Talk to you later. 22:50:53 --- quit: FORTH-MEME () 22:52:21 --- quit: doublec ("Leaving") 22:56:08 --- quit: zardon ("leaving") 23:17:34 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-74-218-202.san.rr.com) joined #forth 23:17:40 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 23:17:47 hi kc5tja 23:17:50 Greetings. 23:17:58 * kc5tja does a happy dance -- 4 day weekend. w00t!! 23:19:21 A four day weekend? You're lucky :-) 23:19:53