00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.07.06 00:01:53 OK, well, I'm off to bed. 00:01:59 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 00:11:31 --- join: htp123 (~tehsux@S0106000d6151238b.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 00:13:42 --- join: Serg (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 00:14:40 --- quit: Serg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:17:36 --- join: O3BEPH (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 00:18:20 --- nick: O3BEPH -> Serg 00:19:10 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 00:29:55 --- quit: jdrake ("Leaving") 00:30:00 --- join: foobar (fooboo@dialup-4.152.180.226.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined #forth 00:38:30 all your bugs are belong to us! 00:39:22 well, that was a bit painful, but I got it working 01:04:23 yay, this change went well 01:05:19 Change, from buggy to bug-free? 01:08:25 --- join: imaginator (~George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 01:09:11 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 01:10:54 Hoi 01:11:03 To both 01:17:51 Robert: yeah. I'm changing my assembler, and the set of core words used to build it 01:18:07 first change I made took a long time to debug 01:18:18 it was the bigest, but still it shouldn't have taken me so long. 01:18:38 Hehe, congratulations anyway. :) 01:18:40 the next two changes went fairly smothely 01:18:49 (there was debugging involved, but it didn't take long) 01:21:21 --- quit: abcnew (Nick collision from services.) 01:21:23 oh, I'd like to make one more change, but I've finally managed to convince myself to go to bed 01:23:52 Heh. 01:23:54 Well, good night. :) 01:24:05 bubye 01:24:40 --- quit: Herkamire ("bed") 02:50:19 --- part: foobar left #forth 02:58:04 Robert: i looked up guard store - TV tx is illegal here ;(( 02:58:34 :/ 02:58:45 So part of the budget will go to the police? ;) 03:08:11 --- quit: htp123 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:37:09 maybe :( 03:37:49 really, all they can do is confiscate the TX, but i'm afraid they'll like digicam more 03:37:59 than TX 03:38:53 --- join: htp123 (~tehsux@S0106000d6151238b.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 03:56:04 --- join: SolarFire (SolarFire@pD9E592F8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 03:58:11 --- join: crc (crc@0-1pool176-9.nas6.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 04:00:38 * SolarFire greets 04:01:06 * crc greets SolarFire 04:01:19 :-) 04:02:32 crc: current figures are around 5%, only the major, most known events in 20th 04:02:38 Ok 04:04:16 that equals around the non-risk shareholder profits. strange, but fact.. 04:04:59 hrmm, and now back to forth... :-) 04:11:58 * crc continues browsing the #forth logs to see what he missed while away... 04:47:03 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 05:06:46 --- join: Murrlin (murr@dialup-207-218-218-11.ev1.net) joined #forth 05:11:54 --- quit: Murrlin ("Mischief managed! ....Nox.") 05:14:51 --- quit: imaginator (".") 05:22:23 --- join: skylan_ (~sjh@206.186.187.183) joined #forth 05:33:04 * Serg is fighting w/ CSS page design, and almost gave up 05:33:22 i _hate_ the idea of returning to tables 05:38:03 --- quit: onetom (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:42:25 --- quit: skylan (Connection timed out) 05:42:25 --- join: onetom (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 06:05:47 tables are better than frames 06:05:50 dont use frames 06:05:52 use tables! 06:05:58 --- join: chandler (~chandler@chandler.registered) joined #forth 06:06:05 beep 06:06:19 Hi chandler 06:08:36 Hmm... 06:08:45 * Robert notes a GlobalMessage from lilo about clonebots. 06:09:18 A guy once used a shell I provided, to use a bot I had written to attack a channel here on Freenode... 06:09:22 That was pretty lame. 06:09:25 yea, saw some in #emacs 06:20:45 --- join: MorgothDc (~morgoth@gw-bdi-3.ticom.pl) joined #forth 06:21:51 http://www.udc.es/dep/lx/cac/indexeng.htm 06:23:00 --- quit: I4_wrk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:23:16 --- join: I4_wrk (~mark4@168-215-246-243.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 06:27:28 --- quit: I4_wrk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:28:09 --- join: I4_wrk (~mark4@168-215-246-243.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 06:58:33 --- quit: MorgothDc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:09:53 --- quit: Serg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:37:36 wow i just realised something about my ?: construct 07:37:59 i can do an if ... elseif .... else... then !!!! 07:38:28 ern no. scratch that. its not an elseif hrm 07:38:50 ?: ?: xxx yyy <-- xxx gets executed if the top two stack items are non false. otherwise yyy does 07:39:03 it would be like and ?: xxx yyy 07:39:16 which is probably more efficient than two ?:'s 07:39:20 Heh 07:39:26 ignore me. im going insane 07:39:28 bleh 07:39:31 :D 07:39:36 We know, we know.. 07:47:49 shaddap 07:47:55 * I4_wrk thwaps robert with the isforth manual 07:48:14 Ouch, it's getting bigger. 07:48:18 i know :) 07:48:32 are you reading it ??? 07:48:41 im only writing it for YOU ya know :P 07:48:49 Reading the manual is for people who can't read the sources ;) 07:48:52 Hehe 07:49:01 Well, you got a couple of other users ;) 07:49:32 err... who ? 07:49:33 lol 07:49:48 tathi will be soon :) 07:49:51 he is porting it :) 07:50:35 Oh, cool. 07:50:52 Well, there was some other guy who used IsForth because he said gforth was too bloated :P 07:51:02 So your efforts haven't been in vain ;) 07:52:55 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 07:53:07 cool. err who was that ? 07:53:14 Don't remember anymore 07:53:21 lol 07:53:41 actually when i do a release on freshmeat my graph goes balistic hehe 07:53:48 i get about 600 hits when i do a release 07:54:07 Ah 07:54:09 Topaz 07:54:36 That's the guy. 07:59:25 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@mi015.dn178.umontana.edu) joined #forth 08:00:41 yea? cool :) 08:05:40 cool :) I'll have to put a notice up on freshmeat sometime :) 08:07:07 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-MTL-ppp73309.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 08:10:00 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-169-92-181.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 08:10:52 err if i say ... @ execute.... the execute is an implied unnest or not ? 08:11:37 unnest? 08:11:40 exit 08:11:47 don't think so 08:11:55 can i do ... @ execute foo blah bam ? 08:11:57 : foo @ execute 1 . ; 08:12:15 ok. thats what i thunked but i had to make sure lol 08:13:04 gforth works that way 08:13:38 so does isforth but i had to get it straight in my head here, im not able to run isforth here :) 08:13:47 yeah execute is a call not a jump 08:13:55 well i could download it but im too lazy 08:31:46 --- join: tucknip (~Huck@170.141.109.33) joined #forth 08:35:59 lol cute nick :) 08:36:36 Hehe 08:37:12 is tucknip someones bot or someone new in #forth ? 08:37:28 i doth not knowest 08:37:37 knoweth 08:37:43 knowest. 08:37:47 :p 08:38:05 my spelling are much more correcter than what your spelling are! 08:38:06 someone new, I think 08:38:21 cool :) 08:38:30 your spelling might, but what about your grammar? :p 08:38:35 so how did you discover our top secret hideaway ? 08:38:46 grammar? bleh 08:38:48 * qFox mumbles about that damned lock 08:38:56 and my spelling SUX lol 08:39:10 sucks 08:39:11 ;) 08:39:18 told ya :) 08:39:22 hehe 08:40:07 i'll bet robert stole the lock! 08:40:42 >:) 08:40:59 tucknip how did you discover #forth??? (and welcome to #forth :) 08:41:09 Memnonio (loop-hog) site 08:41:30 o_0 ads! 08:41:40 he pays me well 08:42:03 ? 08:42:10 hey we could all go around busy chans on all servers and spam #forth on freenode 08:42:11 :p 08:42:21 do you code forth or are you beginning ? 08:42:35 I code some 08:42:49 I440r> loophog has a site with lotsa forth linkies, its in topic 08:43:23 he does? cool 08:43:37 so loop-hog pays for his web space there ? 08:43:41 is that what you mean ? 08:43:52 tucknip what forth do you use ? 08:49:58 --- quit: chandler ("Reconnecting") 08:52:42 --- quit: I440r (Excess Flood) 08:55:53 currently using a spreadsheet program i wrote in gforth 08:55:59 --- quit: madwork (Excess Flood) 08:57:43 --- log: started forth/04.07.06 08:57:43 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 08:57:43 --- topic: 'FORTH programming language. Info: http://forth.bespin.org/resources/introduction ANSI: http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpans.htm FIG83: http://forth.sourceforge.net/standard/fst83/ Links: http://members.dsl-only.net/~loophog || Kestrel project weblog: http://www.falvotech.com/weblog || Note: this chan is publicly logged.' 08:57:43 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Thu Jul 01 21:50:42 2004] 08:57:43 --- names: list (clog wossname I4_wrk Robert fridge_ harm^kuvo madgarden I440r cmeme tucknip Sonarman warpzero Herkamire onetom skylan_ htp123 qFox [Forth] lalalim @ChanServ ianp Klaw slava SDO Fractal) 08:58:06 --- log: started forth/04.07.06 08:58:06 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 08:58:06 --- topic: 'FORTH programming language. Info: http://forth.bespin.org/resources/introduction ANSI: http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpans.htm FIG83: http://forth.sourceforge.net/standard/fst83/ Links: http://members.dsl-only.net/~loophog || Kestrel project weblog: http://www.falvotech.com/weblog || Note: this chan is publicly logged.' 08:58:06 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Thu Jul 01 21:50:42 2004] 08:58:06 --- names: list (clog wossname I4_wrk Robert fridge_ harm^kuvo madgarden I440r cmeme tucknip Sonarman warpzero Herkamire Fractal SDO slava Klaw ianp lalalim [Forth] qFox htp123 skylan_ onetom @ChanServ) 08:58:32 --- quit: Herkamire ("out") 08:58:50 oh yeah, freenode is going fubarrrr 08:58:58 --- join: SolarFire (SolarFire@pD9E592F8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 08:59:47 --- join: mur (~mur@128.214.123.8) joined #forth 08:59:49 lol 09:02:17 it's easier for me to type "foo" instead of "foo @" 09:04:13 i notice on comp.lang.forth that Marcel Hendrix has added "+to" to his Forth 09:04:17 its also faster to execute 09:04:35 another reason 09:04:41 ugh i hate that shit its not "to" and "+to" its !> STORE-TO and +!> PLUS storeto 09:05:18 TO is a politically corrected name so that non forthers who are used to object obfuscated c++ can handle forth 09:05:28 ... so instead of "foo 99 + to foo" it's "99 +to foo" 09:05:33 much shorter 09:06:21 FUCK them. if you cant look at ! and see STORE or you can look at > and see TOO then you shouldnt be using forth 09:06:21 ANS controls all 09:06:21 yes 99 +!> foo 09:06:21 ans doesnt control me 09:06:21 isforth.clss.net <-- look here 09:06:30 i hate what the ans NONFORTH standard is doing to this language 09:07:37 Linux only 09:07:37 i'm one of the sheeple who still uses windoze 09:08:48 :/ 09:09:03 dont worry 09:09:04 :p 09:09:07 it's very restrictive in some ways 09:09:14 so bite the bullet. you might as well, everyone will eventually be running LINUX!!!! 09:09:19 resistance is futile 09:09:22 nnnnnnnegative 09:09:24 I hope so! 09:09:37 topple the wintel beast! 09:09:48 you h8s intel? : o 09:10:00 billy gates wants a monopoly 09:10:35 he has it 09:10:42 well. close enough to one 09:10:43 :) 09:11:08 the motorola 68000 series seemed superior to the 80x86 family 09:11:57 hah, 8 registers is enough for anybody 09:12:14 eight 32-bit date registers (D0-D7), eight 32-bit address registers (A0-A7); no segmented memory 09:13:36 segments aren't such a terrible thing 09:13:52 "data" not "date" 09:13:53 no segmented mem is good :\ 09:14:57 but no segments is better :) 09:15:03 or at least easier 09:15:14 the Intel registers look confusing: Ax Bx H whatever 09:15:23 right 09:15:47 ;( 09:16:58 --- nick: harm^kuvo -> kuvos 09:20:18 anyway, i like words like +!> or +to that make programming faster and easier 09:20:50 it's stupid to have to type "foo 99 + !> foo" 09:22:24 or worse foo @ 99 + foo ! 09:23:26 right. One good thing about old variables: they're easy to increment: 99 foo +! 09:23:38 thanks to +! 09:24:21 but one of the creators of Gforth disagrees! 09:25:15 I sent him code for +TO and he said it wasn't needed, that "foo 99 + to foo" is, and I quote, "good"! 09:26:05 he wants programming in forth to be as tedious as possible, i guess 09:26:13 were you here yesterday under a different nickname? 09:26:42 very late last night 09:27:15 what did you call yourself again? 09:27:41 may have been foobar 09:29:29 right 09:32:29 create +to_pad 128 allot 09:33:07 hmm? 09:33:51 implementaion of +to in ANS Forth 09:36:33 so "99 +to foo" compiles what "foo 99 + to foo" would, exactly 09:38:16 :noname ' >body +! ; 09:38:22 :noname ' >body postpone literal postpone +! ; 09:38:27 interpret/compile: +to immediate 09:38:46 :-) 09:39:00 no need for a psecial pad 09:40:15 i also hate postpone 09:40:26 use compile and [compile] dammit! 09:40:27 :P 09:40:42 --- quit: ChanServ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:40:53 i'll try it 09:43:03 ANS makes it warmer and fuzzier 09:43:25 :) 09:44:18 --- join: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) joined #forth 09:44:18 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +o ChanServ 09:45:25 It works! Sonarman may be a guru. 09:47:07 you'd need to define interpret/compile: outside of gforth 09:47:08 correction: works for VALUEs, but not for self-fetching local variables (Gforth won't let you tick them). 09:47:27 ah 09:47:36 Very good try, however. 09:47:48 I'm not used to using ">body". 09:48:22 self fetching local variables... you mean constants? 09:48:50 no; : try 99 { foo } foo 100 + . ; 09:48:55 prints 199 09:49:00 { } ? 09:49:10 { } are comments in win32forth 09:49:19 dont know what they are in gforth 09:49:19 the curly braces indicate local variables 09:49:25 ehr 09:49:26 k 09:50:59 my +to definition is very long-winded; i tried using [compile] and postpone in it, but they didn't work; don't know why 09:53:03 { } aren't comments in win32forth 09:53:18 i think they are in SwiftForth 09:53:22 well, after then -- they are comments 09:53:26 s/then/the 09:53:52 --- quit: warpzero (Excess Flood) 09:54:58 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@mi015.dn178.umontana.edu) joined #forth 09:55:19 * SolarFire greets warpzero 09:57:26 : testit { 2 . } 3 . ; ok 09:57:27 testit ok 09:57:28 eh 09:57:29 yes. : foo { xx -- xx*2 } xx 2* ; 09:57:49 in gforth 09:58:51 --- quit: Sonarman ("Lost terminal") 09:59:01 has anyone ordered from Offete Enterprises? 09:59:04 : testit4 2 . { 3 . } 4 . ; ok 09:59:04 testit4 2 ok 09:59:10 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-169-92-181.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 09:59:29 ok so i dont know what { means in win32forth, perhaps it works like \ or something :\ 10:00:44 newbie question: my IRC client always shows that clog is in the room, but he never talks. Why? 10:00:52 oh, loolks like they are lcals after all 10:00:57 clog is a 'bot' 10:01:06 oh 10:01:23 clog logs this channel and publishes it online 10:01:34 and tehre are also just people who idle ;) 10:01:50 the logs are published at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs 10:01:59 onetom is also a bot 10:02:00 very handy 10:02:08 there are acutally two or three loggers here 10:02:10 SolarFire: what does it od? 10:02:13 do 10:02:31 it's an aibot, analyzing 10:02:59 forth.tech.nu says: 10:03:04 does it make those statistic graphs? 10:03:11 very clever bot. sometimes speeking too 10:03:15 and the 'who said what the most' things? 10:04:00 clog great coder, rumored to be the next Chuck Moore, /whois him for more info 10:04:09 oops 10:04:31 i guess they were joking 10:04:40 hehe 10:05:21 jk nm. onetom is our always industrious thomas ;-) 10:06:06 yeah, and the same site says he's a "top forther" but talks weird 10:06:22 just wanted to tease him out of his hawt working day.. 10:07:18 has anyone ordered books from Offete Enterprises? 10:07:41 run by Dr. Ting, i think 10:08:04 yep was closed for sometime 10:08:49 mail thefox and ask.. 10:09:30 i've sent them a check for "Seeing Forth" by Jack Woehr 10:09:45 Jeff Fox 10:10:11 w/ or w/o prior contact? 10:11:03 no contact 10:11:15 just visited the web site 10:11:48 check still hasn't cleared, so i wonder if they're inactive 10:11:58 SolarFire: no, im absolutely not :) 10:12:08 :-) 10:12:10 it's alive! 10:12:33 see see onetom is still here ;-) 10:12:44 a sort of Eliza intelligence built into him! 10:13:11 u know i use irssi & it notifies me about the sentences containing my by coloring the irc window number w a different color 10:13:36 onetom sees colors? 10:13:47 ic that's the way to wake you up.. 10:13:49 he may be the next Chuck Moore! 10:13:56 (colorforth, you know) 10:14:14 we call that mechanism a highlight 10:14:24 tucknip: :)) 10:14:42 he has no words for me :( 10:14:53 tucknip: i actually have my own color editor 10:15:40 the web site for Stoical (forth-like), says that Moore is clinically insane! 10:16:43 color3 words16 for11 tucknip6 to8 make5 him14 happy!8 10:16:58 lol 10:17:10 MY EYES 10:17:17 haha 10:17:18 dont. do. that. 10:17:31 the yellow is unreadable 10:17:36 i mad(e) it w my editor and its irc-color-converter word 10:17:45 dont forget some people have a black background tucknip 10:17:50 tucknip: on a white bg, it is of course 10:17:59 (he's mentally challenged) 10:18:10 all irc clients should have an option to strip colour codes 10:18:21 he know what i said! 10:18:21 black bg rlz 10:18:59 Uncanny! He puts Eliza to shame! 10:19:00 fridge_: or convert them to font styles 10:19:04 tucknip: :p 10:19:08 too much white on the screen hurts my eyes 10:19:21 I should write a custom css for my browser some day 10:19:24 fridge_: and too much love will kill u? ;) 10:19:33 haha 10:19:44 fridge_: come out of the dark! 10:19:52 onetom: it would make you very sore, at the least 10:20:36 It may soon become impossible to tell the bots from the humans! 10:20:56 fridge_: it was just a quote from some lyrics 10:21:02 :)) 10:21:03 tucknip: isn't it already? ;-) 10:21:14 yes 10:21:24 fridge may be a bot 10:21:48 and you, SolarFire? 10:21:59 hrmm no comment 10:23:48 i looked at kc5tja's website (Kestral computer) 10:24:19 tucknip: bugger all, i dunno 10:25:24 it was sad to see that his previous job was at a burger joint??? 10:25:42 or maybe he was an executive for the company 10:25:50 I'm feeling about as employable at the moment 10:26:03 good luck 10:26:11 well, I have a job in IT already, but I want another one that doesn't require me to work upside down hours 10:26:58 ie, its 3am and I'm at work =( 10:27:29 fridge_: don't we need wise and peaceful people just everywhere? 10:30:36 I'm sure someone else could do it 10:30:51 and be equally as caring 10:30:58 and nuturing to the internet as I am 10:32:03 fridge_: do what only you can do 10:32:25 got an interview on thursday 10:32:28 =D 10:32:51 :-) thumbs up ;-) 10:34:22 The Hand That Rocks the Cradle 10:34:26 ez nincs meg vkinek? 10:35:22 what language is that? 10:35:50 hungarian 10:36:01 gnarly 10:36:24 well, takes time to get in tune.. 10:36:45 but is well rewarding 10:41:24 ooops :) 10:41:25 sorry 10:43:31 whoever programmed this guy had some sense of humor 10:44:12 now I'm starting to think tucknip is a bot who disguises his botiness by making the same accusation at others 10:45:37 now i'm starting to think fridge is bot who disguises his botiness by accusing others of disquising their botiness by acusing others 10:46:55 elll me what you think about fridge is bot who disguises his botiness by accusing others of disguising their botiness by accusing others . 10:48:40 wossname: lol 10:49:07 ps i am disguising my bothood by mispelling common and short words 10:49:55 If you were a bot, would you know it? Or would you think you were human? 10:51:13 antivirus update is underway, hold on. ;-) 10:51:15 i'll deal with my existential angst by hunting down and retiring other bots 10:51:30 Bladerunner. 10:51:52 you're not supposed to come out just like that, you're supposed to keep the whole thing going :( 10:52:40 Check out stoical.sourceforge.net/summary.php 10:52:53 --- join: jdrake (irc_user@CPE00045afdd0e8-CM014410113717.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 10:53:04 He says that Chuck Moore is insane. 10:53:07 wossname: who told you that? ;-) 10:53:10 moore is clinically insane? 10:53:15 solarfire: ;~ 10:53:31 that's a good website :D 10:53:31 http://stoical.sourceforge.net/summary.php says so 10:53:48 i wish i could see his twisted and terrifying dreams 10:54:11 i can imagine no better recommendation for a programming language than that cthulu himself inspired its construction 10:54:21 tucknip: that happens if you project yourself on others.. so, take care ;-) 10:54:29 Yog sothoth! 10:54:56 In R'lyeh, dead Cthulu lies dreaming. 10:55:42 Lovecraft rules. 10:56:05 remembers his father's mail: forgive him, he doesn't know what he says 10:56:16 good ol' lovecraft 10:56:33 chuck moore will be eaten first if he completes his masterpiece 10:56:47 lol 10:57:38 The Old Ones will return; Moore prepares the way. 10:59:27 Lovecraft was a fan of Poe. I think that Poe was the first to propound the "Big Bang" theory, in his "Eureka". 11:01:26 unfortunately i'm not that well read in old horror :( 11:01:29 haha 11:02:34 * fridge_ looks for some stoical syntactic examples 11:02:38 Eureka was non-fiction, describing the birth and growth of the universe, starting with a "big bang" (all matter was originally concentrated at the center). 11:03:43 the old-time radio program "Suspense" did a good rendition of Lovecraft's "Dunwich Horror". 11:08:58 Mr. Liles writes interesting stuff: 11:09:14 For reasons that I've yet to fully appreciate, both Hewlett Packard calculators and Reverse Polish computer languages appear to have an unhealthy effect on the human psyche. Luckily, however, they also happen to stimulate the pleasure centers of the brain. Take note; You have been warned, and yet you have also been encouraged. 11:14:21 those RPN calculators were never understood by one of my math teachers in years past. There was only one person with one in the class, but stumped him :p 11:18:11 i've had an HP calculator for many years; built like a rock and i never had to change the batteries 11:19:13 batteries? what are they 11:19:21 LOL 11:24:41 --- join: Murrlin (murr@dialup-207-218-234-139.ev1.net) joined #forth 11:37:25 how would I give a string to ficl without having memory problems? 11:39:24 or.. if I allocate a memory location for it, will it be automatically freed once it is off the stack? 11:40:49 if the string was allocated by malloc in C, then you could probably free the memory with FREE in Ficl 11:41:20 as long as Ficl's FREE is just libc's free() 11:41:45 i won't have control of when the actual thing is done being used 11:43:17 this looks kind of interesting: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~williams/archive/forth/strings/smodel.html 11:43:21 anyway 11:44:09 you could export a functino from C to ficl that notifies the C code that a string is done being used, and then the string's memory could be freed from C 11:44:30 that is just messy 11:44:45 ficl would have to deal with this situation in its design 11:44:51 what is it you're trying to do withstrings, exactly? 11:45:01 i want to make sure I don't have memory leaks 11:45:12 i am giving strings to forth 11:45:29 i guess I will have to ask the mailing list 11:46:03 if I can find it, as it was mentioned yesterday 11:46:26 ficl should handle the memory itself 11:46:44 so if I malloc memory will it handle the rest itself? 11:47:23 don't know 11:51:54 should have kept my mouth shut 12:01:21 sounds ficl to me 12:12:33 i just sent an email off John Sadler 12:18:41 onetom may know the answer 12:25:12 --- quit: Murrlin ("Mischief managed! ....Nox.") 12:29:37 :/topic #forth 12:38:56 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:53:16 --- join: Bullrush (~Bull@196.44.2.197) joined #forth 13:04:10 --- part: Bullrush left #forth 13:07:11 hi tathi - you done yet ??? :) 13:14:40 Nope. Got sidetracked by a couple of other things. 13:15:26 :/ 13:15:35 cant be as important as isforth :P 13:15:44 bah. 13:16:02 it's not like I actually need it for anything. ;) 13:16:13 !!!!!!!! 13:16:15 lol 13:16:36 but look at all the cred points you get for doing it! 13:16:38 hehe 13:16:42 :) 13:17:34 I got bogged down in double-cell math, actually. 13:17:54