00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.06.11 00:03:59 on 1 who suffer from hormonal/brain mismatch, 100 physycally OK who do nasty things because of 'advertising' gay-ness in mass-media 00:05:04 some really bad men mak elefant out of a fly, psychically hurting people 00:06:01 not so much, no. 00:06:47 if being 'misgender' is physical problem, why it is 'advertised' so hard, unlike cancer or heart-illness ? 00:06:58 advertized? 00:07:37 yes ! 00:07:48 odd, i don't think i've ever heard it advertised. 00:08:01 shunned maybe. 00:08:05 certainly not advertised. 00:08:37 here <10 kids near CD shack can easily hear a song of very doubtful words 00:08:53 swearing never hurt anybody 00:09:33 like about 'french love' (cunnilingus), lesbian love etc.... 00:09:47 it's on all's TV and radio in prime-time 00:09:55 hrm, good idea.... [goes to turn on some Lords of Acid and T.a.T.U) 00:10:19 what example this shows to young kids ? 00:10:38 man is upgraded monkey, it does what it sees 00:10:47 so? what's wrong with sex? 00:10:54 sex hurts far fewer people than violence 00:10:57 and yet, look at TV 00:11:02 it's covered with violence all the time. 00:11:21 violence is another side of the coin - make all of us mad 00:12:28 truthfully, an open media is a good thing. 00:13:17 i threw out TV after hearing how 'good' is sex under marihuana ;((( 00:13:32 in prime time, was about to look Formula 1 races 00:13:53 *shrugs* marijuana is basically legal here. 00:14:02 most of my friends where i used to live did it sometimes. 00:14:30 heh, everyone in .ca does 00:14:32 ~17:00 MSK, sunday, not to say many young boys watch F1 00:14:45 htp123 - hehehe, not everyone... i don't... but i'm a rare exception. 00:14:58 no? and you live so close to the TPB crew :) 00:15:00 but i'm not, like, religiously against it or anything. i support the legalization. i just don't do it. 00:15:26 i am _against_ anything brain-screwing 00:15:44 i see to match people who lost humane look due to alkohol 00:15:48 marijuana doesn't do any permanent damage to the brain. 00:15:50 tylonol? 00:15:50 to mUch 00:16:02 alcohol is far worse for you 00:16:15 so are prescription drugs 00:16:33 it does slow down the brain quite a bit... so a chronic learns a lot slower while they're still chronic.. 00:16:33 i doubt morphine is good for your brain 00:16:40 but it generally resolves after a couple weeks off. 00:16:42 ick, morphine. 00:16:46 * solar_angel shudders. 00:17:03 yah, and that's legal 00:17:23 after feeling morphine i decided the pain was preferrable. 00:17:35 not to advocate marijuana, but i dont think you can really generalize brain-screwing like that 00:18:15 hey, why NOT advocate it? it seems like one of the nicer recreational drugs out there, and regular users tend to be mellow and kind. 00:18:23 yah, that's true 00:18:30 just because i don't do it myself doesn't mean i don't think it's cool :P 00:18:36 i'd rather meet a stoner in an ally at night then a drunk idiot 00:18:43 definately. 00:19:06 i've met potheads in alleys at night... mostly they just wonder if i have any to sell them or want to buy any from them (alternatively) 00:19:23 or they just smile and talk about how nice a night it is :P 00:19:25 hehe, yah 00:19:42 i just remember one weekend i went to halifax with someone i used to work with and his friend... 00:19:45 we were hacking xboxes 00:19:49 they were smoking a lot of pot 00:19:52 it was quite a weekend... 00:19:57 hehe 00:20:10 on the contrary, i met someone on speed or something the other weekend 00:20:21 ick... paranoia much? 00:20:35 he was running around pounding his chest like a gorilla screaming "lets see a nigger do this" 00:20:41 ick!!! 00:20:42 lol 00:20:49 and came after me when i started laughing 00:20:54 hahaha 00:20:56 now that's scary. 00:21:09 yah but it was mid day and people everywhere so i just kept walking 00:21:19 how did you know he was on speed? 00:21:22 my mom's boyfriend's screwed up son burned himself in half on PCP... 00:21:34 slava, i'm just guessing. he was constantly running around and stuff 00:21:42 he now has in-depth, two-way conversations with God. 00:21:43 htp123, speed wouldn't have that effect 00:21:48 could've been pcp or something else, or nothing and he was just crazy 00:21:49 i bet he was just a nutcase 00:21:55 religious zealot 00:22:02 well, he seemed a bit too crazy 00:22:12 * Serg[XDSL] fetches 2-barrel 12-gauge pistol 00:22:12 scitzophrenia etc 00:22:18 maybe 00:22:48 when on drugs you still generally know what reality is and what it isn't; unlike serious mental illness 00:22:51 its just that none of the crazies i've ever seen where this active 00:23:19 anyway, i'm against anything chemical what alters perception or thinking 00:23:31 Serg[XDSL], stay away from doctors then 00:23:49 shrinks g 00:24:00 hehehe, ya, avoid shrinks 00:24:02 damn scary folk. 00:24:02 i mean, except real pain, surgery etc 00:24:20 is the angst of a homeless man lacking alcohol not real man? 00:24:23 the chemical soup that shrinks prescribe is scary. 00:24:31 s/man/pain/ 00:24:37 you know... 00:24:47 i know a couple people who have gone through/are going through ECT. 00:24:50 now *THAT* is scary shit. 00:25:05 brrrrrrrr.... 00:25:13 damn 00:25:16 i read a book on psychiatry crimes 00:25:21 woohoo... "TATU - Ya Soshla S Uma" 00:25:33 i nearly womit all over the bus ;((((( 00:25:33 Serg[XDSL] - ECT is still regularly practiced. 00:25:34 the only good tatu song is robot 00:25:40 htp123 - robot is cool :) 00:25:45 i like a lot of their other stuff too though 00:25:54 i love their cover of How Soon is Now 00:25:56 i actually havent heard any others :) 00:25:59 i just like robots 00:26:04 oh :P 00:26:11 ever hear of informatik? 00:26:16 yah 00:26:22 but i never actually heard their music 00:26:35 aside from shitty samples 00:27:00 it's more industrialish right? 00:28:17 oh definately. 00:29:02 cool. i should check them out again 00:30:48 do you listen to industrial stuff? 00:35:48 yep 00:36:24 i pop E and dance to trance with light sticks woaaaah!! 00:36:40 all other music sucks woahhhh! 00:36:47 do you feel up random strangers? 00:37:02 ohh yeah 00:37:09 nice 00:37:14 i have drugged sex with nubile girls 00:37:20 nah 00:37:24 i'm joking about the whole thing 00:37:24 using glowsticks? 00:37:30 but i like rave music in general 00:37:31 yah i figured :) 00:37:34 except for drum & bass 00:37:54 i especially like certain trance where it isn't repetive 00:38:04 rave music is cool... 00:38:09 keeps changing unpredictably etc 00:38:09 i moved towards something heavier though 00:38:11 i like EBM. 00:38:15 ebm? 00:38:23 goaish stuff is pretty cool too 00:39:50 electronic body music 00:39:58 half-way between rave and industrial :P 00:43:12 --- quit: solar_angel ("laterish.") 00:46:10 --- join: Topaz (~top@exten-halls-131.soton.ac.uk) joined #forth 01:09:20 --- join: solar_angel (~jenni@Toronto-HSE-ppp3685160.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 01:26:23 --- quit: [aXe] ("http://www.unrealsector.com") 02:38:21 Herkamire: do you have a wiki ? 02:38:42 i wanna add myself to #forth description 02:56:04 --- quit: htp123 ("*") 03:26:12 C=a+++b; 04:07:49 --- join: daved (~dave@adsl-ull-144-184.41-151.net24.it) joined #forth 04:07:51 hi 04:08:30 any ficl developer here? 04:15:17 i'll try later 04:15:19 --- quit: daved ("Leaving") 04:21:24 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 05:21:18 --- quit: solar_angel ("*vanishiness*") 05:27:11 --- topic: set to 'FORTH programming language. Info: http://forth.bespin.org/resources/introduction ANSI: http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpans.htm FIG83: http://forth.sourceforge.net/standard/fst83/ || :NOTICE: Kestrel project update! See http://www.falvotech.com/weblog for more details.' by qFox 05:27:17 howsaboutthat... 05:28:13 i'm not sure if the first was from this chan though... found it in my forth links and its shorter then the tutorial link :p 05:29:06 * qFox hides 05:29:30 --- join: crc (crc@0-1pool176-46.nas6.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 05:29:33 Hi 05:29:37 crc + qFox 05:29:37 Hello 05:29:44 nono i'm hidden! 05:29:51 Lies. 05:30:01 oh... well.. hi then :) 05:30:29 Any success on the compression? 05:30:52 converted my frequency count code to bitwise optional 05:31:09 so instead of only being able to count bytes (8bit) i can also count in <8 bits 05:31:21 Ah, nice. 05:31:24 How about > 8 bit? 05:31:33 i will adjust, but the problem is storage 05:31:47 What storage? 05:31:48 as you go higher, so do the total number of possibilities 05:32:06 for 8bit you have 256 possible outcomes (bytes) 05:32:10 for 9bit its 512, etc 05:32:21 each outcome has his own counter (32bit) 05:32:33 hence as you go up, so does the storage, rather rapid 05:32:55 Yes. 05:32:58 plus i cant really display it anyhow. well perhaps the 512, but more will result in major graphs 05:33:08 which i'm not sure my code can handle... :) 05:33:17 :) 05:33:36 but first i need to adjust the other script (the one that makes the graph) to bits 05:33:48 because now it'll just draw 256 items nomatterwhat 05:35:44 but right now i NEED to get on my math 05:35:57 because i just got word we'll start moving first of july 05:36:00 The compression math or the homework math? 05:36:06 homework math 05:36:11 i have the exam 3 august 05:36:21 and it needs to be done together with the move 05:36:21 Oh, fun. 05:36:26 What are you studying? 05:36:31 math 05:36:33 yeah uhm 05:36:35 :) 05:36:38 Heh 05:36:46 Details kplzthx 05:36:59 i dont know how to specify it, i can tell you the dutch one but that will tell you very little i'msure 05:37:06 lets see 05:37:57 hmmmm differentiating (no that is a different word...) 05:38:10 hmmm what was that word 05:38:23 Calculus? 05:38:26 f(x)=x and f'(x)=x 05:38:34 Derivatives 05:38:36 thassit 05:38:37 Incorrectness? 05:38:41 :D 05:38:45 derivatives 05:38:54 I see... 05:39:00 and the derivatives from logarithms 05:39:12 the log<>e<>ln things as well 05:39:15 Mmm, fun. 05:39:22 alot of graph stuff 05:39:27 linear program 05:40:00 and some economical shit thats seriously boring 05:40:05 :( 05:40:40 actually most of this gunk is boring. only the derivatives and logaritms were intresting (but not easy) to do. 05:40:44 "If Joost has 3 joints and sells them to Marie for 1 euro each, how much money does Joost get?" 05:40:51 the graph stuff and the rest is crap 05:40:58 hmm no not that simple 05:41:03 :P 05:41:13 like uhm, for example 05:41:13 You're in some sort of economics program? 05:41:16 no math 05:41:27 i want to go to univerity next year 05:41:31 AI 05:41:38 Ah, OK. :) 05:41:43 How old are you now? 05:41:45 but since i dont have a qualifying diploma, i need to make some exams to prove i can do it 05:41:47 23 05:41:53 Ah, OK. 05:41:59 and in this case that was an english test, and 2 math exams 05:42:18 i've passed one math exam with an 8 (1-10) 05:42:35 and the english exam, well i dont have the final score yet but will be a 6 or 7 05:42:49 so everything will be riding on this last exam 05:43:33 If everything goes as planned, I'm going to the computer tech program at KTH this fall. 05:44:38 this thing was about argiculture. to grow z hectares (? size of land) of plant x and y. they ask you to maximize the formula O=250p+500q 05:44:43 under these conditions: 05:44:55 p+q<=18 05:45:02 2p+3q<=36 05:45:12 100p+300q<=2700 05:45:21 p>=0,q>=0 05:45:36 so then you need to draw a graph and draw these conditions 05:45:45 and you'll get a nice area of possible outcomes for the formula 05:45:55 and you need to pinpoint the one that gives max O 05:46:04 (this one is quite easy actually) 05:46:33 Ah. 05:46:47 Yes, I did that a couple of years ago. 05:46:54 Pretty nice technique, while still being so simple. 05:47:00 yep 05:47:10 big part of this book is about that stuff 05:47:25 but i underrated it when i started to learn for this exam 05:47:34 i thought this one was going to be easier then the other one i did 05:47:39 alas, its the other way around 05:47:40 hehe 05:48:00 but i'll get it. i better... 05:48:17 :) 05:50:58 --- quit: crc ("Sleeping (Will be back tomorrow)...") 06:18:01 --- quit: dpb9cpu (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:01 --- quit: slava (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:01 --- quit: onetom (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:01 --- quit: teehee (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:03 --- quit: I440r (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:03 --- quit: zardon (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:03 --- quit: SDO (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:03 --- quit: ChanServ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:18:04 --- quit: Topaz (calvino.freenode.net 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It's done (kind of) but needs a total rewrite, since my goal is to make it useful. 15:00:57 'making useful' generally means adding words, not rewriting them 15:01:40 Not really, the ground I'm standing on is giving in. 15:01:54 Had to throw that first version together in a hurry, for school. 15:01:55 i heard my name 15:02:14 heh, ok ... now to make clean and elegant? 15:02:22 qFox: just in passing 15:02:30 MrReach: Yes. :) 15:02:44 :) 15:07:11 --- quit: Fractal (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:11 --- quit: mur (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:13 --- quit: futhin (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:13 --- quit: Klaw (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:13 --- quit: cmeme (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:13 --- quit: lalalim_ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:13 --- quit: zardon (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:14 --- quit: SDO (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:14 --- quit: ChanServ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:14 --- quit: arke_ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:15 --- quit: I440r (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:15 --- quit: madgarden (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:15 --- quit: Herkamire (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:15 --- quit: fridge (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:15 --- quit: topher|away (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:17 --- quit: Robert (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:40 --- quit: warpzero (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:40 --- quit: qFox (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:40 --- quit: kuvos (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:07:51 --- quit: MrReach () 15:08:10 --- join: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: topher|away (~chris@lsanca1-ar42-4-61-175-184.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-bf5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: lalalim_ (~lalalim@p508AB370.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: arke_ (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: I440r (~mark4@168-215-246-243.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: kuvos (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: Herkamire (~stjohns@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: zardon (~zardon@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: SDO (~SDO@co-trinidad1a-156.clspco.adelphia.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-113-231-53.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3575988.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: Klaw (chuck@ip68-225-243-23.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: Fractal (jah@selling.kernels.to.linus.torvalds.at.hcsw.org) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: mur (~mur@smtp.uiah.fi) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- join: futhin (thin@bespin.org) joined #forth 15:08:10 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +oo ChanServ futhin 15:19:17 --- nick: lalalim_ -> lalalim 15:33:58 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 15:41:54 --- quit: I440r (Remote closed the connection) 15:56:13 --- quit: Topaz (Remote closed the connection) 16:29:25 --- nick: topher|away -> topher 16:44:32 --- join: I440r (~mark4@216-110-82-1.gen.twtelecom.net) joined #forth 16:46:11 --- join: solar_angel (~jenni@Toronto-HSE-ppp3685160.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 16:51:57 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@pc68dn1d.ppp.FCC.NET) joined #forth 16:51:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 17:07:19 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:22:15 --- join: blockhead (default@dialin-699-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net) joined #forth 17:45:27 --- join: htp123 (~tehsux@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) joined #forth 18:01:20 --- quit: qFox ("this is mirc's last attempt of communication...") 18:24:31 --- quit: slava (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:34:32 --- quit: topher ("Client Exiting") 18:36:27 --- join: topher (~chris@lsanca1-ar42-4-61-175-184.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 18:48:19 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-74-218-202.san.rr.com) joined #forth 18:48:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 18:48:32 hi kc5tja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 18:49:01 wait, let me resize my console window so I can see what it is you just sent me. 18:49:04 :) 18:49:11 :) 18:49:24 That's 76 exclamation points, you realize. 18:49:41 so? :) 18:50:00 * blockhead ponders the numeric significance 18:50:02 Generally considered not good netiquette. :) 18:50:17 Actually, 75. I didn't realize the last '1' was a '1' and not a '!'. 18:50:31 kc5tja: :) 18:50:33 kc5tja: freeciv? 18:50:45 What about it? 18:50:49 --- quit: solar_angel ("*gone*") 18:51:05 If anyone should be erupting in exclamation marks, it ought to be me. 18:51:24 $666.62 take-home income for the previous two weeks. 18:51:37 Virtually double what I was making at In-N-Out. I'm majorly stoked. 18:51:54 less in sewer ants :D 18:52:01 Still will be living on a shoe-string budget all the next two weeks, BUT, I'll at least have 90% of my debts cleared out of the way with this new-found cash. 18:52:27 it's a beautiful thing 18:52:32 Time for a party for me, as far as I'm concerned. Time for some Pink Floyd. 18:52:38 congrats 18:52:50 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE00096ba44261-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 18:53:48 pink flyod? wait: you're in a *good* mood :D 18:54:13 * blockhead has always found pink floyd to be very depressing (although sonically interesting) 18:54:18 blockhead: Nothing beats good quality progressive rock. 18:54:36 blockhead: Don't worry -- Genesis is next. 18:54:41 not saying pink floyd is bad, just that it is depressing 18:54:56 Not all of it. 18:55:06 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-66-124-254-158.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 18:55:11 I'm listening to Live at Pompei right now. 18:55:30 the band Live? 18:55:44 Animals isn't depressing -- but it is totally social/economic satire. 18:56:18 hiya kc5tja 18:56:22 Sonarman: No. Live At Pompeii is an album/live show that Pink Floyd as an artistic experiment. 18:56:37 Sonarman: Imagine a concert with *zero* members in an audience. Literally. That's what it was 18:57:02 re TheBlueWizard 18:57:27 hiya Sonarman and slava 18:57:34 hi TheBlueWizard 18:57:53 kc5tja: interesting :) 18:58:12 kc5tja: have you heard the rerelease of the final cut? 18:58:20 dang, didn't see slava and Sonarman :o hi guys :) 18:58:40 rerelease? does that mena the Final Cut was not so final :D 18:58:46 topher: Nope. Not particularly interested either. It really isn't Pink Floyd. It's Roger Waters exploiting the rest of the PF band members. 18:59:18 kc5tja: oh 19:00:37 topher: Let's put it this way: Gilmore and Waters are absolutely not on speaking terms. :) 19:00:44 Even after all these years. 19:00:47 kc5tja: is that why they broke up? 19:01:41 topher: Look at the credits for all the albums since Dark Side. You'll see that Waters takes *increasing* amounts of credit for things like music, lyrics, etc. -- things that David is solely responsible for in the band (consider the change in the sound of the band from when Syd Barrett led the band's musical development to when Gilmore joined) 19:02:03 Gilmore is *pissed* with Waters, because he's not getting any credit for the work he puts/has put into the band. 19:03:15 * blockhead listens to devo's "gut feeling" 19:04:34 so that's the reason they split? 19:06:31 Hi 19:06:36 topher: Well, like I said, Roger was increasingly "abusive" with the band too. He kept accusing Rick Wright of not playing the right way, kept laying into Nick Mason for his ineptitude, etc. 19:06:49 People just get sick of people around a megalomaniacal control freak. 19:06:59 I have some recordings from there 19:07:02 Especially one that tries to micromanage the rest of the band members. 19:07:13 i can imagine, that's too bad too 19:07:16 Echoes. 19:07:20 heh, coincidentally the song playing right now on this internet radio station is a cover of a PF song 19:07:47 I really do wish PF would put out another album, even if it's not main-stream. 19:07:50 * Robert imagines a death metal cover of Bike. 19:07:52 I'd definitely purchase a PF import. 19:08:01 cover? who is doing it 19:08:23 HAhah! Or a country, cry-in-your-beer style cover See Emily Play. :D 19:08:32 * blockhead likes the trance techno covers 19:08:37 Robert: hehe 19:08:40 Or maybe a rap version of Time. 19:08:49 Yes. 19:08:56 no seriously, there is a techno version of "time" 19:09:04 Whoa 19:09:25 Time is quite amenable to that sort of musical style, I guess. 19:09:49 i think trance/techno ppl do a lot of covers since they're more into mixing/editing than the rest. the stairway to heaven trance remix ive heard is a good example 19:09:50 * blockhead tries to imagine KMFDM or Rammstein doing PF covers. That would be ... interesting 19:09:53 I'm not sure I'd like it though, if I were to hear it. Much of the meaning of the song might be lost with the new choice of instruments, new rhythms that techno often imposes, etc. 19:09:54 the band doing this here (hyuk) cover of Astronomy Domine is Voivod 19:09:54 I have Time on my web page. 19:10:36 stairway to heaven tracnce? The DJ Mystik version? or someone else? 19:10:38 Astronomy Dominae -- now that's a song I haven't heard in a loooong time. I'd like to grab a copy of that again someday. 19:11:11 Nice one.. but I really think some parts of the early pink floyd is electronics noise. 19:11:18 And annoying electronic noise. 19:11:30 kc5tja: gnutella :) 19:11:36 Sonarman: Sorry, don't touch it. 19:11:42 i could DCC it to you 19:11:49 Sonarman: No you couldn't. Firewall. :) 19:12:01 I can put it on my public www server. 19:12:07 If you REALLY want it. 19:12:11 kc5tja: that's odd. I've got a firewall yet can DCC 19:12:23 Robert: How can you say it's "annoying" electronic noise, and then turn around and play up techno? 19:12:37 Isn't the very definition of techno "mind throbbingly annoying electronic noise?" 19:12:48 kc5tja: Techno has never passed through my wires. 19:12:53 you know you want it :D 19:13:09 kc5tja: not if you like techno :D 19:13:19 kc5tja: Someone else was speaking about techno. Not I. 19:13:29 Techno's roots is in progressive music, to be 100% honest. 19:13:36 usually if someone tell me that somethign is "annoying eletrocin noice", I'll want to check it out :D 19:13:50 * blockhead changes "noice" to "noise" 19:13:55 blockhead: Hehe 19:14:06 i thought you were just saying "nice" in a Cockney accent 19:14:11 You need to be way out of your mind to like that, but I guess that's part of Pink Floyd. 19:14:22 Mainstream oddities, or whatever. 19:14:24 Robert: To like what? 19:14:26 hrm 19:14:29 Sonarman: cool! 19:14:29 Electronic noise. 19:14:32 when playing CD on the computer, it lags. 19:14:33 Robert: What? 19:14:41 Robert: cat /dev/hda > /dev/sound 19:14:43 kc5tja: Techno as well as certain parts of PF songs. 19:14:59 i can't play CDs on my computer :( 19:15:02 * blockhead likes cockney accents 19:15:12 Robert: So I take it you don't like Echoes then. 19:15:12 * blockhead listens to Kraftwerk; "Tour de france" 19:15:22 topher: your turn, btw :) 19:15:29 Robert: Which is anything but random electronic noise. 19:15:39 arke: oh 19:15:39 kc5tja: I don't, and I do. 19:15:44 Robert: And PF != techno in any way, shape, or form. 19:15:56 kc5tja: Mid section, noise. Rest... 19:16:04 kc5tja: Are you misunderstanding me on purpose? 19:16:26 kc5tja: YOU did the connection PF <-> noise, I never mentioned it (except when replying to you). 19:16:34 kc5tja: I mean PF <-> techno. 19:16:38 arke, topher: you guys playing freeciv? 19:16:43 19:03 < Robert> Nice one.. but I really think some parts of the early pink 19:16:43 floyd is electronics noise. 19:16:43 19:03 < Robert> And annoying electronic noise. 19:16:46 Sonarman: yeah 19:16:51 Looks like a direct association BY you. 19:16:54 Sonarman: yeah 19:16:54 cool 19:17:28 * blockhead wonders which pink floyd tunes are eletronic noise? Might have missed some good tunes :D 19:17:28 kc5tja: I never mentioned techno. 19:18:07 You also have to remember, Pink Floyd is a burn-out band (well, was). The point of the music is to induce an altered state of mind (I find it works quite well, for me, without drugs of any kind). 19:18:07 * blockhead listens to ... one of his own tunes :D 19:18:21 It's very feral and animalistic. 19:18:39 kc5tja: Yes. 19:18:47 Until, that is, Waters became the maniac that ripped the band apart. 19:19:01 Although Comfortably Numb does sound special after a joint. 19:19:03 * arke listens to some more Rush :) 19:19:10 Yoko ripped the band appart 19:19:18 Klaw: Wrong band. 19:19:21 ;) 19:19:27 Haha. Hi 19:19:28 But then, Yoko would rip ANY band apart. 19:19:42 oh, lemme play. love killed cobain! 19:19:44 :D 19:19:45 okay, im done 19:19:48 People would be walking down the street, see her, and go, "Hey look -- it's Yoko. Yoko...Yoko?! OOH NOOO!!!" 19:20:00 :D :D 19:20:14 what do spiders and yoko ono have in common? 19:20:24 What's that? 19:20:26 blockhead: Interstellar Overdrive. 19:20:28 (this joke will be in poor taste) 19:20:36