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13:17:45 terve arka :) 13:17:53 treve :) 13:18:39 tathi: school. work.sleep. repeat. 13:19:25 Heh. 13:19:36 :) 13:20:14 I've been working 6-2:30 a lot lately...makes me realize how far I've gotten away from being a real morning person... :) 13:21:01 :) 13:21:59 --- join: wossname (wossname@Toronto-HSE-ppp3698994.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 13:23:59 hi wossname 13:24:13 hi arke 13:24:18 anything new? 13:24:21 nope 13:24:44 same here. eh 13:29:04 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 13:44:40 --- join: trapxvi (~trapxvi@CPE0030654f85d8-CM014400102747.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 13:55:13 --- quit: Alcides () 14:19:58 --- join: lalalim_ (~lalalim@pD95EA5A3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 14:35:16 --- join: crc (crc@0-1pool176-47.nas6.philadelphia1.pa.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 14:36:25 --- quit: lalalim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:51:55 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:54:15 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 15:02:22 --- join: arke_ (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 15:02:22 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:04:59 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 15:10:48 --- join: madwork__ (~madgarden@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 15:16:25 http://icfpcontest.org/ 15:17:56 who wants to make forth the choice for discriminating hackers this year? 15:19:16 * gl is pro-ocaml. 15:19:24 :( 15:19:40 would you forgo ocaml in favour of cobol? 15:19:54 :( too. 15:21:19 wth... 15:21:24 discriminating hackers? 15:21:39 care to elaborate on that term? :p 15:22:46 in icfp, languages are competing, not people! 15:23:31 the grand prizes include acknowledgement by the panel of judges that the winner is the language of choice for all hackers worth their salt 15:23:51 the people who were used by the programming languages get the secondary prize of unlimited bragging rights 15:24:55 --- join: doublec (~doublec@coretech.co.nz) joined #forth 15:28:05 whats ... oh link 15:29:36 --- quit: SDO ("Vision[0.9.6-0203]: i've been blurred!") 15:29:40 looks like #forth will be a team 15:29:42 no the question stands, the stupid site doesnt explain what icfp is :p 15:30:52 cough google: http://www.cs.luc.edu/icfp/ 15:31:20 well i find it kinda strange that on teh whole site, i cant find it... 15:31:28 qFox icfp is a conference aboute functionnal programming, the contest is simply ... a programming contest :/ 15:31:33 not a single page with "icfp is..." 15:31:42 ok but, what does icfp stand for? 15:31:46 oh 15:31:57 International Conference on Functional Programming 15:31:59 internationnal conference of functionnal programming ? 15:32:14 s/nn/n/g 15:32:18 well yeah, its on that page that trapxvi just said, but not the .org page 15:32:23 Odd 15:32:34 the .org is just about the contest 15:32:46 yes but they could at least explain what the organisation is about imo 15:33:16 qFox: they assume that if you know about the competition then you would recognize the organization 15:33:26 i gues 15:33:26 s 15:33:33 If you were a pilot you'd know instantly what LAX meant 15:33:53 well i knew it was fly lingo :p 15:33:54 --- join: SolarFire[ (SolarFire@pD95458D4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:33:55 At any rate, if you care what the organization is, you can google for it :) 15:34:09 i are lazy :p 15:34:12 http://www.cs.indiana.edu/icfp04/ <-- it's a link on the main page 15:34:19 That's not till August or September, anyway, right? 15:34:21 None of this discussion is furthering FORTH conquest of the world 15:34:24 June 15:34:30 haha 15:34:45 Oh, OK then. 15:34:55 as sad how it might be, i think thats a lost cause 15:35:17 how=as 15:35:45 Paysan, I think, placed about 10th a couple of years ago. 15:35:52 Without putting a whole lot of time into it 15:36:17 Forth is the extensibility of Scheme and the expressiveness of assembler with the user friendliness of Malbolge 15:36:39 wtf is Malbolge 15:37:02 slava: toy language which is like 10x as bad as brainfuck 15:37:05 slava: worst programming language ever 15:37:06 http://www.fact-index.com/m/ma/malbolge_programming_language.html 15:38:28 This Malbolge program displays "HEllO WORld". 15:38:28 (=<`$9]7<5YXz7wT.3,+O/o'K%$H"'~D|#z@b=`{^Lx8%$Xmrkpohm-kNi; 15:38:28 gsedcba`_^]\\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;:9876543s+O 15:38:51 damn 15:39:04 if you entered icfp with that you'd probably win the judges prize...or something..for persaverance. 15:39:13 It was a joke BTW, I personally thing FORTH is better than C for legibility 15:39:29 FORTH is an assember where the programmer is the pre-processor 15:39:34 Hah 15:39:44 http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/icfp.html 15:39:49 forth entry writeup for the 2002 contest 15:40:15 that was a fun one - building robots to compete on a map. 15:40:55 Oh, I see -- the contest is way before the conference. 15:41:17 I just assumed they were somewhere around the same time...silly me. :) 15:41:20 yes. the reesults are announced at the confernece 15:41:31 although the winners are warned in advance by a few weeks 15:41:49 --- quit: SolarFire (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:42:11 for forth to conquer the world, it would probably need a big visual forth release for windows (oh yes, you know it), and some major companies writing software in forth, for the uh... home market (whats that called? not companies...) 15:42:41 hi doublec 15:42:43 qFox: how about a Forth kernel 15:42:48 Hi slava 15:42:49 doublec, why do you use 'swap put' and not 'set'? 15:42:56 habit :) 15:43:01 trapxvi> helps, but its not enough 15:43:07 I always forget which one has what order so I stuck with the one I remember 15:43:33 doublec, i implemented all common elementary functions with complex arguments. 15:43:49 doublec, in doing so i found a bug in CMUCL's implementation of arctanh ;) 15:43:52 cool 15:43:59 heh, did you let them know? 15:44:05 yea 15:44:38 there will be a new release of factor soon, mostly bug fixes and such, but i also a working database and complex numbers. 15:45:04 qFox: another way to popularity is server side applications (web apps for example). I introduced Scheme into the company I work for as a way of quickly writing web apps and it has worked well. 15:45:22 doublec, i'll work on the httpd for the next release too. 15:45:23 slava: great! I'm keen to try out the database stuff. 15:45:41 and the httpd stuff too. 15:46:36 I'm still getting used to the forth/joy way of doing things. I tend to fall back on my Lisp background, hence my closure/state capturing questions on the mailing list. 15:47:25 at times i do have problems with forth. but they are usually implementation stuff, that makes certain stuff much harder then it should be (like using sockets, or a graphical window). well or having to resort to windows programming 15:47:27 i never use that idiom 15:47:38 which is equally complicated, at least for me 15:47:39 (words that create new words) 15:48:03 as far as i'm concerned, the only word that creates new words is : 15:48:37 yeah, I have to stop writing Scheme in Factor and instead learn Factor :) 15:48:51 doublec, do you find yourself using variables a lot? 15:48:54 it takes a while to get used to the idioms of a different language 15:49:04 doublec, the key is to use them only for configuration parameters and static data and such; not state 15:49:11 slava, yes. Usually when first prototyping the function then I try and work out a better stack usage. 15:49:31 doublec, that probably means your functions are too long 15:49:50 I got pretty good at using the stack when I used forth more heavily but I've pretty much forgotten how. 15:49:53 doublec, i build code up from small pieces. once the pieces are done, the 'main' function fits together nicely. 15:50:08 slava, yep, that sounds like my functions. Too long! 15:50:53 doublec, the length used in the library is good. 15:50:59 is there any implementation with something like 5 stacks? :p 15:51:08 mine has three 15:51:12 data, call, name stack 15:51:22 slava, yes, I like the library code. It's very clear and readable. 15:51:36 cant wait till i have a standalone forth cpu to play with 15:51:45 --- part: qFox left #forth 15:51:45 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 15:52:02 doublec, you should see the new math code. complex valued forms of trig/hyperbolic functions and their inverses, as well as exp, pow, sqrt all in about 70 lines of code 15:52:20 doublec, and its readable too, as long as one understands RPN math 15:52:39 --- quit: crc ("Going to sleep now...") 15:52:57 slava, that's pretty impressive. I find well written forth/factor code to be very readable when in short definitions like you do. 15:53:19 once they get too long then it gets a tad difficult. The stack manipulations hide the intent of the function. 15:53:33 short definitions have the side effect of 'naming' each particular aspect of the code. 15:53:42 when breaking things up into small words though I have trouble coming up with relevant names. 15:53:47 that's tough yes. 15:54:03 but at least it makes me think about what I'm are doing. 15:56:40 --- quit: trapxvi (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:11:06 --- quit: tathi ("rebooting") 16:11:11 --- quit: wossname ("woah") 16:25:41 --- join: blockhead (default@dialin-642-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net) joined #forth 16:30:04 --- join: trapxvi (~trapxvi@CPE0030654f85d8-CM014400102747.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:30:23 --- quit: trapxvi (Client Quit) 16:30:26 --- join: trapxvi_ (~trapxvi@CPE0030654f85d8-CM014400102747.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:31:35 --- quit: arke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:31:54 --- nick: trapxvi_ -> trapxvi 16:36:15 --- join: arke (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 16:36:39 guys, please tell everybody that's not here, and remember well: 16:36:47 my computer is getting sold. I won't be here much longer. 16:37:36 i take it you're not getting another computer? 16:37:46 with what money? 16:38:25 heh i just read the weblog that started the rumours on the hl2 sourceleak busts 16:38:26 that answers the question, I guess 16:38:28 sucky stuff 16:38:52 hey, let's start a rumour :D 16:39:11 your computer is getting old, so you wont be here much longer? thats .... bs really :p 16:39:13 windows was actually written by chuck more, who is actually bill gate's ex-lover :D 16:39:21 moore 16:39:22 unless you're on a 486 and cant find spare parts 16:39:29 that's the rumour 16:39:53 well i heard there were busts made 16:40:18 but so far i've tracked it down from some website, to slashdot, who appears to claim this by some guy's weblog, who only got raided, not busted 16:40:25 so i'm not sure if they indeed busted anyone 16:40:47 --- part: trapxvi left #forth 16:41:03 but to think a bunch of agents could just walk in and take random stuff they think they need, and get away with it, to never see the stuff again, is just sickening 16:41:16 regardless of you being guilthy or not 16:41:20 guilty 16:41:28 Steve Jackson games 16:43:13 --- quit: arke ("Leaving") 16:43:29 also, i saw some flashes of hl2, and cs on the hl2 engine from some e3 report on tv, which looked pretty smooth (unlikely on my computer though) 17:28:47 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:34:38 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576712.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 17:55:29 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:57:57 qFox, the solution is for everybody to behave like the agents :) 18:01:33 * blockhead walks in and takes random stuff he thinks he needs 18:05:34 'nn all, time for MW 18:05:37 --- quit: blockhead ("laugha while you can, monkey boy") 18:07:28 --- part: slava left #forth 18:11:33 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:35:31 wooo kestrel 18:40:35 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@207.111.96.86) joined #forth 18:40:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 18:40:42 hiya all 18:43:53 Hiya TBW 18:44:03 hiya tathi :) 18:45:30 My forth now will boot straight from Open Firmware, as well as running under Linux. 18:45:53 whoa cool 18:46:14 Still not anything I'd consider actually usable yet, but it's getting better. 18:46:34 OF ++ 18:46:48 And now I can play around with writing device drivers and such. 18:47:33 Yeah, I thought about just playing in OF, but I couldn't figure out how to intercept keyboard input so I could translate it to dvorak. :) 18:49:02 lol 18:49:53 Well, and I wanted a little forth for PPC Linux. 18:50:57 i just use gforth on ppc 18:51:05 but its not very uh little 18:51:19 I used gforth for a while. 18:51:43 Forget why I stopped. 19:07:25 I haven't been at the new job three months yet, and already most developers know I'm some sort of weird Forth insano. 19:07:50 heh. 19:08:10 Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 19:08:17 did they put up a "cross" sign in an attempt to ward you off, madgarden? :) 19:08:22 Hehe. 19:09:01 Well, everyone there is pretty cool, we have fun, and it's probably a good thing in their eyes that I have different ideas. 19:09:21 To be honest, almost all of them didn't really know what Forth is. 19:11:25 well, you can spout various "wild" claims about Forth, like can have a fully functional Forth system including a usable editor AND an assembler, in less than 20K...and enjoy watching their reactions :) 19:12:57 Yep, I've mentioned that to one of them. I really don't think he quite understood the magnitude of that. :) 19:13:28 hehe 19:14:36 I do have my Forthy C scripting system though, which I'm certain can be put to good use as an tool for embedded system debugging and testing. 19:18:11 So, maybe a chance to convert some of them later on. ;) I'll wait 'til my 3 months are up though. ;) 19:18:22 gotta go...bye all 19:18:38 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 19:21:22 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-74-218-202.san.rr.com) joined #forth 19:23:07 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 19:25:21 * madgarden waves at kc5tja 19:28:11 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-164-60.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 19:31:32 Greetings. 19:32:01 Not sure if folks noticed the topic for this channel, but the Kestrel distribution package 0.1.3 is now available. 19:32:45 Still no hardware files, but the software that is included includes a skeletal simulator that actually half-way works (/- still not yet implemented though) and the assembler, which definitely DOES work (though there are one or two known bugs in it, which I'll fix sooner or later) 19:32:50 Still no docs on it yet though. 19:36:25 what are the MachineForth colon and semi-colon words? 19:40:34 --- join: Alcides (~webmaster@adsl-64-166-19-102.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 19:50:54 --- quit: Alcides (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:02:03 hey kc5 20:04:46 kc5tja> of the 50something mails i sent out, i got a whole of 3 replies, 2 agreeing, 1 .... dunno what he wanted actually, and none from the isp 20:06:07 on an unrelated note, true crime is probably one of the best games i've played the past few months. it could do with some graphical improvements (better anti-aliasing for one...), and the game might be slightly on the easy side, but overall its a good game 20:12:24 --- quit: Herkamire ("leaving") 20:25:51 --- quit: qFox ("this is mirc's last attempt of communication...") 20:29:28 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 20:29:56 --- join: Herkamire (stjohns@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 21:06:04 --- join: arke (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 21:06:24 ok, I'm gonna have to sell something that's worth $50 21:08:37 and it won't be my computer or car 21:08:47 although if I can't find anything else, it'll have to be one of those/. 21:14:24 anybody, how can i make big bucks fast? 21:14:28 without any risk or anything? 21:23:53 I had a car that was worth about $50... 21:29:25 I need the car. 21:31:42 clean houses 21:32:05 phht 21:32:07 yea right. 21:32:09 Aack. Sorry for being afk. 21:32:33 Sonarman: ': is the MachineForth version of :, and ;' is the MachineForth version of ;. 21:33:08 Sonarman: The reason for the tick marks is to distinguish them from the normal : and ; words, which still have significance even after the assembler environment is loaded. 21:33:54 kc5tja: got any tips on how to make mucho money very quickly? 21:34:04 arke: Work for In-N-Out. 21:34:12 phht. 21:34:15 they didn't want to hire me. 21:34:29 arke: Then go to a different INO store location. 21:34:42 Or check on their website for a listing of stores that are hiring. 21:35:10 But, that being said, if you're willing to relocate yourself down to San Diego, cari.net is still hiring, as far as I know. 21:35:12 uhg. 21:35:17 heh 21:35:21 they wouldn't hire me. 21:35:24 The biggest thing, though, is to never give up. 21:35:36 I'm about to. 21:35:46 Don't. 21:35:48 Trust me. 21:35:49 I did. 21:35:59 Then I found myself in a position where I couldn't get myself hired for a full year. 21:36:15 I ended up on unemployment insurance, which still didn't pay all the bills. 21:36:44 What kind of credentials or skills do you have? 21:38:03 credentials? none. 21:38:15 skills? I can code, I can set up computers, I can build them. 21:38:30 but not even the fucking low-life local computer store would hire me. 21:38:38 so, I'm stuck with McDick's. 21:38:39 Why not? 21:38:44 and I still haven't gotten promoted 21:38:54 because I "don't stand up for myslef" 21:39:00 becasue if I do, I get bitched out. 21:39:02 so I don't. 21:39:12 but that's whats preventing me from getting promoted. 21:39:14 I can't win. 21:39:32 Then I'd bitch back. 21:39:38 That's part of that "standing up for yourself" bit. 21:40:00 But you also gotta have all your ducks in a row before doing that, so that you have some leverage to win an argument with. 21:40:08 anyway, that's not the question I asked "why not" to. 21:40:27 You said that even the lowliest of computer stores won't hire you. That's what I asked "why not" to. 21:43:37 I will say this much though -- starting within the next two weeks or so, my hours at work will be changing towards mid-shift, and ultimately night-shift. Therefore, do not expect me to be able to work on Kestrel stuff very much in the near future. 21:57:09 --- quit: arke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:59:35 --- quit: doublec ("Leaving") 22:00:02 --- join: Sonarman_ (~matt@adsl-64-169-93-130.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 22:05:27 --- quit: Sonarman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:09:24 --- join: Serg (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 22:09:56 --- join: arke (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 22:10:15 --- nick: arke -> worthless_shit 22:11:36 OK, I'm going to bed. 22:11:42 night. 22:12:06 worthless_shit: what a nasty nick ! 22:12:09 same to you. And good luck. I know how you feel -- I've been there myself. 22:12:15 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 22:12:20 No you haven't. 22:12:34 because you haven't yelled at the person you love most 22:28:46 http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/04/002224&mode=thread&tid=102&tid=108&tid=126&tid=156&tid=187 22:34:28 --- nick: Sonarman_ -> Sonarman 22:35:11 --- join: arke_ (~Chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-100-108.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 22:36:49 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 22:53:21 --- quit: worthless_shit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:53:43 --- nick: arke -> worthless_shit 23:06:26 java ? hmm... 23:06:43 i believe more in source portability than in Java 23:06:46 --- nick: worthless_shit -> arke 23:07:05 early Unix was not in Java, but was ported perfectly 23:08:15 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 23:09:51 serg: portability is a myth 23:15:50 god. 23:16:04 functional programmers are such fucking elitist assholes sometimes. 23:16:32 me: 23:16:40 me: , right? 23:16:45 somebody: correct. 23:16:46 me: thanks. 23:16:58 somebody_else: what are you're doing here, you're a forth guy? 23:17:16 yet_another_guy: we don't like Forth programmers here. 23:17:27 arke has left #scheme (assholes.) 23:18:35 * arke is away: sleep. 23:19:55 ack. 23:20:00 this posses me off 23:20:05 pisses even 23:22:27 take a Thick Red Thing and piss them w/ cold carboxyde 23:26:47 ??? 23:26:53 * arke has decided to not sleep 23:28:10 lol 23:28:16 * futhin joins #scheme 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/04.06.03