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02:18:28 <warpzero> you know what
02:18:49 <warpzero> i am having a hard time resisting the urge to write my language in forth
02:19:01 <warpzero> because forth is a better systems programming language than c will ever be
02:43:25 <Robert_> esp for compilers and the like...
02:43:45 <Robert_> I've written all my language tools in Forth since...uh.. I learned Forth :)
02:44:04 <Robert_> Still use other languages for various things, but nothing beats Forth when it comes to languages,
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02:49:09 <warpzero> Robert: why isn't the kernel in forth
03:00:38 <Robert> Laziness, basically.. I already had a semi-working one in asm
03:00:59 <Robert> But if you look closer, disk drivers, "file system" and some other stuff is in Forth.
03:01:47 <warpzero> i wish i had you to implement my language -_-
03:01:57 <Robert> No. You DON'T.
03:02:09 <warpzero> why not
03:02:26 <Robert> Just look at that piece of crap and you'll understand :P
03:02:43 <warpzero> well to help me with it
03:02:45 <Robert> Well, I guess the compiler is OK. But the rest...
03:02:53 <warpzero> its in c right nwo
03:02:55 <warpzero> :(
03:02:59 <Robert> Especially the disk/fs drivers.
03:03:25 <Robert> Oh, hehe. I've used C for interpreters too, but not since I learned Forth :)
03:03:35 <warpzero> i don't know enough forht
03:04:04 <Robert> Just a matter of a few days of studying :)
03:04:14 <warpzero> i would probably have to re-implement it
03:04:33 <warpzero> not like forth isn't re-implemented every other day
03:04:34 <warpzero> but
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03:27:58 <Robert> Hi qFox 
03:28:28 <qFox> 'mornin
03:44:31 <warpzero> sup
03:44:50 <warpzero> are strings in forth like strings in C?
03:46:58 <qFox> if you mean zero terminated, not afaik
03:47:02 <warpzero> no i mean
03:47:07 <warpzero> allocate yourself
03:47:26 <qFox> ." puts the string in the memmory and returns an address to the string
03:47:43 <warpzero> what about operations like concatentation etc.
03:48:04 <qFox> you have to code that yourself dont you?
03:48:19 <warpzero> yeah i thought so
03:48:22 <qFox> so unless the words you use coding that, alloc the space, you have to
03:48:38 <qFox> i dont know of a standard concat word in forth
03:50:11 <warpzero> hmm
03:50:24 <warpzero> give me something to say about forth
03:50:57 <qFox> forth is not fortrain.
03:52:08 <warpzero> I have 6 pages on forth but I need 10.
03:53:45 <qFox> ah
03:53:58 <qFox> well there's enough material about forth online
03:54:04 <warpzero> yeah
03:54:06 <qFox> did you do background info?
03:54:13 <qFox> when it all began etc
03:54:13 <warpzero> there's enough material in the damn gforth manual
03:54:18 <qFox> hehehe
04:06:32 <warpzero> forth is so cool
04:10:15 <warpzero> hmm what should i talk about now
04:12:07 <lucifer> once going forth, you don't go back?
04:13:35 <lucifer> need more bad jokes?
04:15:04 <qFox> once you forth, you cant abort
04:15:10 <qFox> hm
04:15:22 <qFox> that sounds better, especially if you know pringles :p
04:15:33 <qFox> i mean, sounds better then it looks
04:45:57 <warpzero> fuck
04:46:01 <warpzero> i am out of things to discuss
04:59:02 <phubuh> oh man now i want pringles
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10:41:42 <Speuler> 'day
10:45:00 <Robert> Hi Speuler :)
10:45:38 <Speuler> ah, the_rob
11:03:54 <Robert> Yes, god dag
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13:15:19 <warpzero> hey forthers
13:15:36 <mur> hi¨
13:17:10 <Herkamire> Speuler: how's bashforth coming?
13:18:29 <Herkamire> Speuler: thanks for adding to my wiki
13:56:07 <Speuler> hi herkamire
13:56:39 <Speuler> bashforth has been in a state of "about finished" for several months now
13:57:19 <Herkamire> :)
13:57:27 <Speuler> nice initiative, your wiki
13:57:47 <Herkamire> I like that p
13:58:00 <Herkamire> that introduction to forth linked from your wikipedia page
13:58:28 <Herkamire> just inserted all the missing spaces... 112 of them!
13:58:42 <Speuler> ?
13:58:52 <Herkamire> http://burks.bton.ac.uk/burks/language/forth/hopl.htm
13:59:08 <Herkamire> nice artilce, but missing a space between 2 words in 112 places
13:59:53 <Speuler> that article was written by phil koopman
14:00:13 <Speuler> ultimatecontrol
14:00:17 <Speuler> smallenough
14:00:21 <Speuler> ah, i see what you mean
14:01:09 <Herkamire> is koopman famous?
14:01:30 <Speuler> i didn't contribute anything to that article
14:01:42 <Speuler> yes, you could say so
14:02:25 <Speuler> but it gives the authors name in the header, as well as in the footer
14:03:10 <Speuler> i have no idea how what makes you think i have anything to do with it
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14:10:03 <Herkamire> Speuler: I was just saying I liked it. I'm glad you have a link to it. I've been looking for a good forth intro
14:10:07 <Speuler> right, now i know
14:10:14 <Herkamire> I didn't think you wrote it
14:11:10 <Speuler> http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?ForthTutorials
14:11:32 <Speuler> the second one is quite good
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14:16:26 <Herkamire> what is koopman famous for?
14:17:38 <Speuler> he has written "stack computers: the new wave" for example
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14:20:20 <Speuler> http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/stack.html
14:20:26 <Herkamire> nice :)
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18:23:15 <Sonarman> ARKE
18:23:28 <Sonarman> ARKE
18:23:43 <arke> hey guys
18:23:45 <arke> what is up with kc5tja?
18:23:47 <arke> is he really moving to NY?
18:23:49 <arke> hi Sonarman
18:23:51 <arke> (I'm at my friends house btw)
18:23:53 <arke> (friend) hi
18:24:27 * blockhead wakes up.  whoa.  activity!
18:25:52 <blockhead> hi arke, hi arke's friend  :)
18:26:52 <arke> (friend) hi hi arke wants to talk to you
18:26:57 <arke> Eh, sorry :)
18:27:02 <arke> blockhead: hi there
18:27:09 <arke> anyway
18:27:15 <blockhead> :)
18:27:17 <arke> whats up with kc5tja? 
18:27:38 <arke> He said he'd be moving (or so it seemed), and he hasn't repsponded to my email yet, so is he really moving? :(
18:27:46 <arke> and in $2k debt?
18:28:04 <blockhead> arke - sounds like you know about as much as I do
18:28:12 <arke> :()
18:28:13 <arke> ``
18:28:14 <blockhead> :/
18:28:14 <arke> :(
18:28:17 <arke> :)
18:28:26 <arke> know anybody who would know?
18:28:32 <arke> or maybe a log time so I can check teh logs?
18:29:06 * blockhead checks his logs
18:29:11 <blockhead> brbr
18:29:20 <Sonarman> meme.b9.com has a search function
18:29:30 <Sonarman> grep kc ny :)
18:29:56 <arke> :)
18:30:09 <arke> !give everyone a beer
18:30:15 * arke gives everyone a beer
18:30:27 <arke> damn retarded friend ^_^
18:30:40 <arke> screw you
18:30:48 <arke> (friend said that :))))))))
18:32:43 <blockhead> mmmmmmm, beer
18:33:43 <Sonarman> arke: i've got a couple new songs :)
18:33:59 <Sonarman> and a new CD
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18:41:03 <Sonarman> arkejanastu
18:51:24 <blockhead> 'nn all
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20:53:36 --- topic: 'A channel dedicated to the Forth programming language, its implications, its application, and its philosophy.  :UPDATE:  Donations for development work on the ForthBox Kestrel are being accepted!  Donations towards development will be applied to the final purchase price.  Please see http://www.falvotech.com/weblog for more details.'
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20:55:37 <Sonarman> <nice>
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