00:00:00 --- log: started forth/04.02.07 00:12:45 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@216.27.161.121) joined #forth 00:13:02 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:13:23 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@216.27.161.121) joined #forth 00:16:28 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:16:55 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 00:37:57 --- quit: |Chris| (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:42:55 --- quit: fridge ("Client exiting") 01:56:52 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-113-229-157.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 03:28:50 --- part: Nutssh left #forth 03:31:53 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 04:37:07 --- quit: OrngeTide (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 06:27:59 --- join: fsabrewul (mason@fennec.stairclub.com) joined #forth 06:28:06 anyone around? 06:28:53 joo 06:28:58 yes 06:29:25 hey mur 06:29:28 in a definition 06:29:33 i've seen {}s 06:29:35 like 06:29:39 : somedef { ; somename } 06:29:43 can you explain that to me? 06:29:43 sorry i dont know much about forth :/ 06:29:46 doh 06:29:47 ;) 06:30:35 hmm 06:31:40 its hard enough doing searches for braces 06:31:45 and finding 0 documentation 06:33:46 ": cuda-write{ _adr _len ; _actual _data } " 06:33:50 uhg 06:34:41 looks like grouping data to me from previous programming experience 06:35:29 and also what it looks to me that cuda-write stores either location and lenght or list of data. that looks much like string of chars or array to me 06:35:58 cuda-read probably reads this string of data 06:36:34 but on the other hand it woudl not make sense to have ; as or 06:36:49 perhaps it writes to address _len amount of data 06:37:19 and maybe {} are used to describe where code is and ; can be overwritten to end clause 07:54:55 --- join: |Chris| (~chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 07:54:59 <|Chris|> hiya all 07:57:07 hi 07:57:13 any suggestions for tortilla 07:57:21 <|Chris|> nope. 07:57:28 <|Chris|> mur: you going to figuk? 07:58:04 nah 07:58:09 i'd feel lonely there :P 07:58:17 <|Chris|> heh 07:59:07 <|Chris|> how do you make screenshots? 07:59:29 <|Chris|> under X 08:04:46 you coudl use gimp 08:10:06 <|Chris|> eek no 08:29:07 <|Chris|> hrm, checking out the "new" epiar tree. 08:29:17 <|Chris|> from CVS? 08:29:19 <|Chris|> er 08:29:22 <|Chris|> From CVS. 08:29:35 <|Chris|> the code seems clean 08:31:50 <|Chris|> eek, compiling shows lots of warnings 08:32:23 <|Chris|> and it failed ^_^ 09:10:21 --- join: haqqer (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp80350.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 09:40:20 --- join: moritz_ (~moritz@pD9E1E3BD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:40:29 hello 10:08:12 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:12:44 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 10:22:59 'mornin all 10:23:11 Morning. 10:25:55 hey 10:48:01 --- join: blockhead (grunlat@dialin-746-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net) joined #forth 10:48:29 Hi 11:05:55 what do you guys think of colorforth/ 11:06:43 never tried it 11:07:45 i ought to play with it. it seems like an interesting concept. 11:08:09 i'd like a forth OS that was a little less minimal :) 11:09:24 slava, i keep toying with the idea of writing one. I'm thinking about putting together a small silent PC (running off compactflash) as a dev box for forth. 11:09:45 my current PC gives me a headache sometimes cuz it's so noisey 11:10:25 that and i just want an excuse to get another computer:) 11:10:28 cool 11:10:32 what kind of ideas do you have for this? 11:10:37 but i don't want to buy enough flash to run linux on it. 11:10:58 slava, well framebuffer video only. i think hardware text console is really gross. 11:11:07 I want to port my portfix lang to JNode (jnode.sf.net); then I'll have a forth-like OS :-) 11:11:15 i'm kind of a Mac fan. so i like small simple little GUIs 11:11:30 but I thought you were a mac fan :D 11:12:10 blockhead, i like system 7. but i didn't like system 8,9 or X 11:12:16 yeah a forth with framebuffer video would be neat 11:12:51 OrngeTide: yes! exactly! :) 11:13:42 slava, my biggest complaint is that text mode doesn't support unicode very well. and I have a collection of public domain bitmap unicode fonts that i'm just dying to use. I wrote some C-based stuff to compress and render them quickly while they are compressed. 11:14:02 --- part: OrngeTide left #forth 11:14:09 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 11:14:13 oops. wrong button. 11:31:51 --- quit: qFox ("if at first you dont succeed, quit again") 11:34:19 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 11:39:06 --- quit: slava ("Leaving") 11:39:54 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 11:46:15 I try to like java, I really do 11:46:21 in theory it sounds good 11:46:32 but anytime I do anything with it I get angry 11:46:47 try my text editor: www.jedit.org 11:47:53 why? 11:48:00 is it better than vim? 11:51:01 that's subjective 11:51:13 its more like emacs than vim 11:51:37 but i think its nice :) its had 6 years of development 11:57:38 --- join: downix (~downix@adsl-218-51-24.mia.bellsouth.net) joined #forth 12:01:28 hi downix 12:02:20 hey 12:13:49 * warpzero humms 12:15:38 --- part: fsabrewul left #forth 12:35:32 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:41:54 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 12:58:33 --- quit: haqqer ("assert > perror+exit X^(") 13:07:13 --- quit: |Chris| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:12:39 --- quit: downix ("Leaving") 13:22:58 --- quit: moritz_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:34:22 --- join: dubious (~marc@209.71.234.197) joined #forth 13:35:30 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:43:04 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:43:23 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 13:54:22 --- quit: blockhead ("Client Exiting") 14:20:38 --- part: dubious left #forth 14:36:28 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:36:57 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 14:39:34 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@register.rice.edu) joined #forth 14:58:57 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:59:17 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 15:11:32 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:18:07 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 15:22:30 --- quit: Nutssh ("Client exiting") 15:38:46 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 15:44:42 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@register.rice.edu) joined #forth 16:14:59 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:16:16 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 17:48:28 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:49:03 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 17:53:06 --- quit: Nutssh ("Client exiting") 18:17:53 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@forthfreak.net) joined #forth 18:17:59 'day 18:19:19 --- quit: qFox (Client Quit) 18:19:37 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 18:20:05 Good morning, Speuler, 18:20:39 hi rob 18:21:05 * Robert just downloaded season 11 of the Simpsons 18:25:43 Pirate! doh! :) 18:36:58 --- quit: qFox (Client Quit) 18:37:14 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 18:44:09 Yes. 18:44:12 I am truly evil! 18:44:30 I lead the society to anarchy and chaos by watching copyrighted material. 18:45:52 --- quit: qFox (Client Quit) 18:46:14 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 18:48:53 --- quit: qFox (Client Quit) 18:49:02 --- join: qFox (C00K13S@cp12172-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) joined #forth 19:03:17 --- part: Speuler left #forth 19:06:15 --- quit: qFox (Client Quit) 21:16:09 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-164-154.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 21:47:41 --- quit: fridge ("Client exiting") 21:52:38 --- quit: warpzero ("Tried to warn you about Chino and Daddy Gee, but I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail.") 22:05:55 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 22:06:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 22:36:14 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@gh-1081.gh.rice.edu) joined #forth 22:36:29 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 23:16:13 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 23:20:04 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 23:50:36 i think i'm just going to use isforth as my dev environment. i haven't found any stand-alone forths i like. time to build a boot image that jumps straight into isforth. :) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/04.02.07