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I have to get ready for work soon. 09:28:51 Dobryjj vecher! 09:29:20 Privet, ASau :) 09:29:30 Privet, Robert! 09:29:57 What does it mean "guard code"? 09:30:08 No idea. 09:31:11 Or, "code guard"? I've forgotten exact sequence. 09:34:03 I would need to know how it's used in a sentence. 09:34:16 I'm familiar with precondition and post-condition code though. 09:34:21 Not sure if that's the same thing. 09:36:57 http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?TerseControlStructures 09:37:03 in "see also" 09:37:17 "Guarded code" 09:37:50 --- quit: I440r (Remote closed the connection) 09:38:25 I *think* it means something like pre-conditions. 09:39:05 I.e. "if then "? 09:39:07 E.g., a vector addition word, for example, would need to make sure that, given A+B, A, B, or both are atoms, OR that both A and B are vectors of the same length. 09:39:44 + is undefined, mathematically, for two vectors of differing lengths. 09:42:48 And what is assertion then? 09:43:14 An assertion is the physical device used to enforce a pre-condition or post-condition. 09:43:44 An assertion is also different from a guard in that it will break out of the program completely, often right back to the operating system or programming environment. 09:43:52 A guard, in contrast, just returns an error value. 09:45:22 Hm. Do they mean "not ?;" in their words? 09:46:31 hey kc5tja 09:46:44 I don't know what you mean by "not ?;". 09:46:46 warpzero: Howdy. 09:47:01 Oops, it's getting fairly 'late.' I need to get ready for work. 09:47:07 oh 09:47:08 well 09:47:13 then ttyl 09:47:32 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 09:47:55 Their... Late. 09:51:17 privet alaeksie 09:51:49 --- quit: Herkamire (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:51:49 what 09:56:34 Privet, mur! 10:02:00 kak dela? 10:03:15 Nichego. 10:17:13 --- join: blockhead (grunlar@dialin-539-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net) joined #forth 10:23:36 hiya 10:38:01 ih 10:38:19 ;)' 10:38:22 terve 10:39:47 mitä arke? 10:42:42 " 10:42:44 :) 10:47:41 "' 10:50:04 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9E5C2E7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 11:48:29 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 13:48:52 --- quit: blockhead ("Client Exiting") 13:54:18 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@gh-1102.gh.rice.edu) joined #forth 14:20:35 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@207.111.96.32) joined #forth 14:20:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 14:20:41 hiya all 14:20:51 Hi 14:20:53 hey 14:20:58 hiya Robert 14:21:02 TheBlueWizard: did i sent you url? 14:21:14 terve mur...saw your email...thanks 14:22:34 hi. 14:23:46 hiya Nutssh 14:40:18 --- quit: dubious ("Leaving") 14:56:57 is there a tool that i can merge two partitions together ( i want to merge a partition into my root partition(make it bigger) ) ? 14:57:10 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-165-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 15:03:59 scope: parted may do that nowadays 15:36:28 * ayrnieu stretches. 15:42:13 * Sonarman picks at a scab. 15:42:53 sonar - don't do that, it'll only heal more slowly. 15:43:24 slower healing is worth the fun of picking at it. 15:44:03 You want a perfectly toned and healthy 'bod' for those nude-beach days. 15:45:30 it doesn't matter if the scab is in my nostril 15:46:08 besides, even if it were anywhere else, nobody on the beach would notice, what with my huge... 16:01:09 gotta go...bye all 16:01:42 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 16:20:11 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576567.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 16:31:25 --- quit: Robert ("brb") 16:33:44 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-9d5a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 16:36:21 hiya a;; 16:36:24 Sonarman: wanna laugh? 16:38:42 Sonarman: I accidentally deleted 2/3 of my mp3 collection 16:39:13 i'm not laughing, only smiling sadistically 16:39:51 the RIAA must have hired a telepathic manipulator or a cleirc 16:39:53 cleric 16:40:16 I guess so. 16:40:25 All my REd Hot chili peppers stuff is gone 16:40:31 same with offspring and AC/ 16:40:32 d 16:40:33 DC 16:40:45 but strangely enough, my rush stuff and my dio stuff is still there 16:40:54 and my own songb 16:41:51 i've got Amon Amarth - Amon Amarth 16:41:57 :) 16:49:35 Y2K isn't untill 2048 16:49:36 1K = 1024 16:52:09 Don't delete the sacred Rush! 16:52:19 I love Rush :) 16:52:28 Me too! Heh. Listened since I was 8. 16:54:46 :) 16:54:53 brb. food stuck in throat 17:03:27 --- quit: qFox ("if at first you dont succeed, quit again") 17:11:04 hah amon amarth 17:14:08 ianp: the band or the mountain? 17:15:26 --- join: XeF4 (~xef4@thymine83.gprs.suomen2g.fi) joined #forth 17:28:08 --- quit: Nutssh ("Client exiting") 17:45:35 arke: Forth + Rush: Discuss. ;) 17:48:35 the band 17:48:42 where is the mountain? 17:50:15 ianp: Amon Amarth is the name in the elvish language (either Quenya or Sindarin, I'm not sure) of Mount Doom in Tolien's books 17:50:21 you know the band? 17:50:29 yeah, isnt that a black metal band or swomething 17:50:35 s/Tolien/Tolkien 17:50:41 \/wii sonarman 17:50:47 woops! 17:50:50 yeah, Viking Metal :) 17:50:52 i blew my cover 17:50:58 ahah yeah 17:51:18 what do you mean, you blew your cover? 17:51:54 and what was \/wii sonarman? are you using some perl irc client or something? 17:52:01 :-) 17:53:33 do you like the band? 18:01:30 --- join: I440r (~mark4@12-160.lctv-a5.cablelynx.com) joined #forth 18:04:51 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 18:04:51 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 18:10:37 --- quit: XeF4 ("pois") 18:36:06 * kc5tja is away: household chores 19:10:30 --- join: blockhead (default@dialin-65-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net) joined #forth 19:49:01 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@gh-1177.gh.rice.edu) joined #forth 19:56:57 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:57:16 --- join: arke (~chris@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 20:00:21 --- join: slava (~slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 20:15:50 --- quit: blockhead ("Client Exiting") 20:22:28 ianp: i'm listening to Amon Amarth right now :) 20:24:17 woot 20:24:26 i have a huge folder of daeth and black metal i never listen to 20:24:29 i think i have it in there 20:25:07 awesome :) 20:25:13 I have Once Sent From The Golden Hall 20:25:22 that's the album, yeah 20:25:26 pretty nice! 20:25:34 I love At The Gates 20:25:40 they are very medievil like this 20:25:45 swedish death metal 20:26:24 hey guys 20:26:27 i need some opinions 20:26:54 what, arke? 20:27:53 ianp: i've never heard At the Gates (or maybe I have, I just don't remember), I would request a song of theirs at snakenetmetalradio.com, that is, I would if my account were finally activated 20:28:17 I need an opinion/suggestion: I have a 13GB HD and a 60GB HD, I plan to install SuSE, Debian, and Windows 2k (yes, all three), and have some space which all 3 can read/write (fat32?). What would be the best partitioning, and could the 2 linuxes share a swap partition? 20:28:50 i registered in mid-late-November, and I still haven't received my confirmation e-mail :) 20:29:15 the 2 linuxes could share a swap partition, yes 20:31:21 as for the partitioning scheme, i would dedicate the 13GB HD to Windows, and have a 10 or 5 GB FAT32 transfer space on the 60gb hd, maybe 128mb-1gb of swap on the 60, and the rest of the 60 evenly divided between SuSE and Debian 20:31:34 but that's just me 20:31:48 and i've never done anything like that before 20:31:48 I'd give everything to Gentoo. 20:32:06 I certainly would not 'evenly divide' anything between two different linux distributions. 20:32:40 arke: but Arch Linux looks pretty cool, check it out: http://www.archlinux.org/about.php 20:33:09 CRUX also looks kind of interesting 20:33:32 bleh, YA precompiled-packages linux distribution. 20:33:35 ayrnieu, what would you do? would you have a shared home directory between the two distros? 20:33:50 Sonar - I would never have two distributions on the same computer. 20:33:55 ayrnieu: Arch also gives the option of compiling from source JUST LIKE GENTOO 20:34:05 Sonar - oh, it uses portage? 20:34:18 ok, i will rephrase myself 20:34:29 ayrnieu: Arch also gives the option of compiling from source AS DOES GENTOO 20:34:44 Sonar - so? You can do that with any distribution. 20:34:56 ok, third rephrasing :) : 20:35:24 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 20:35:34 --- quit: ayrnieu (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:37 --- quit: fridge (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:38 --- quit: cmeme (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:38 --- quit: kc5tja (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:38 --- quit: skylan (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:43 --- quit: scope (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:44 --- quit: ooo (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:35:50 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4751.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: scope (~junk@njd.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: ayrnieu (~irc@206.61.132.138) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-33-164-15.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- join: ooo (o@virgo.bombsquad.org) joined #forth 20:35:50 --- mode: brunner.freenode.net set +o kc5tja 20:36:15 ayrnieu: Gentoo gives you an organized, easy-to-use system for compiling packages from source and managing said packages, AS DOES ARCH 20:36:23 but whatever :) 20:36:36 i've never used Arch 20:36:46 Sonar - oh, nifty. 20:37:10 :D 20:37:19 sharing home would be teh sweet 20:37:19 it just looks like it might be a better/nicer chiuce than debian 20:37:21 choice 20:37:24 naah 20:37:31 it seems debian is much better still 20:37:42 and debian seems to be completely bugless (or at least woody). 20:37:50 which would spoil me rotten after suse >_< 20:37:55 except that you'd have a great deal less prebuilt software and an intentional absense of conveniently UI'd system-management tools. 20:38:00 yeah but woody uses 2 1/2 yr old software 20:38:33 naah, not that old 20:38:37 Sonar - please don't emit obviously wrong statements like that. 20:38:43 and sarge, which has recent (but not as recent as gentoo) is kind of borky to me 20:38:51 ok, i exaggerated, sorry 20:39:02 sarge = testing, sid = unstable, right? 20:39:17 sorry, i meant to say sid when i said sarge 20:39:18 * ayrnieu studies Chinese. 20:39:55 I just ate some chinese. 20:39:56 :> 20:40:15 * Sonarman calls the police to report ianp's cannibalism 20:40:32 hahaha 20:40:34 bash 20:40:59 if it didn't make you laugh out loud, then don't bash it 20:41:16 Sonarman: it was just a dog! 20:41:28 ho ho 20:41:45 it did ^___^ 20:41:50 ianp: are you in asia right now? because if not, i'm going to call the police on you 20:41:52 my dad yelled at me ... :( 20:42:53 because of the contents of an IRC window? 20:43:05 no, because I laughed out loud. 20:43:07 dumbass. 20:43:28 you spelled "genius" wrong 20:43:56 why did your laughing make him yell at you? 20:45:52 because he was watching a movie 20:46:32 sorry 20:46:37 we'll try not to be funny in here 20:47:40 you better not. I'll fucking ban you, bitch 20:47:58 gak! 20:48:46 * Sonarman performs the heimlich maneuver on fridge 20:49:12 was that a dick that was caught in his throat? HA. HA. HA. shutup 20:49:56 * arke stealthily retracts his penis and spends 5 minutes rolling it up and stuffing it into his pants 20:51:23 --- quit: fridge (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:24 --- quit: ayrnieu (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:24 --- quit: cmeme (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:27 --- quit: scope (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:27 --- quit: skylan (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:28 --- quit: ooo (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:28 --- quit: kc5tja (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:51:28 * Sonarman gives arke a Glad(R) Garbage Bag condom 20:51:38 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4751.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: scope (~junk@njd.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: ayrnieu (~irc@206.61.132.138) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-33-164-15.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- join: ooo (o@virgo.bombsquad.org) joined #forth 20:51:38 --- mode: brunner.freenode.net set +o kc5tja 20:51:40 don't get mad, get Glad(TM)! 20:52:02 20:57 < KriegGoD> !seen my.penis.but.i.am.a.male 20:52:02 20:57 < fubar_> KriegGoD, my.penis.but.i.am.a.male? hmm... I'm trying to 20:52:02 remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember 20:52:02 my.penis.but.i.am.a.male. 20:52:07 just now in #linux :) 20:52:24 --- quit: fridge (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:24 --- quit: ayrnieu (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:24 --- quit: cmeme (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:26 --- quit: scope (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:26 --- quit: skylan (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:27 --- quit: ooo (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:27 --- quit: kc5tja (brunner.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:52:33 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: skylan (~sjh@vickesh01-4751.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: scope (~junk@njd.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: ayrnieu (~irc@206.61.132.138) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: fridge (~fridge@dsl-203-33-164-15.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: cmeme (~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- join: ooo (o@virgo.bombsquad.org) joined #forth 20:52:33 --- mode: brunner.freenode.net set +o kc5tja 20:52:41 STOP THE FUCKING SPLITS DMWATERS PLEASE 20:52:44 that's classic :) 20:52:46 heh 20:52:46 arke - what happened to that KriegGoD fellow? 20:52:59 ayrnieu: ? 20:53:10 he has signed off 20:53:24 arke - "what happened to that person named KriegGoD in #linux after he did that" 20:53:40 he laughed :) 20:53:53 oh, how nice. 20:54:04 (>^_(>O.o)> 20:54:05 GAY KIRBY! 20:58:50 * fridge snorts 20:59:21 could be pokemon too. 20:59:33 JiiiiglypOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF! 21:00:21 PikachOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 21:00:36 "Brock, will you please leave my pokemon alone?" 21:00:46 "At least use a condom, gosh.." 21:01:34 "Misty! Pikachu! How... how... could youuuu?" 21:02:14 Well, I don't feel so bad anymore now for knowing the names of the main characters in pokemon. 21:16:14 ¬_¬ 21:16:20 Y2K isn't untill 2048 21:16:20 --- quit: Nutssh ("Client exiting") 21:16:22 1K = 1024 21:31:06 Ok guys, I might not be here for a while, I'm gonna be redoing stuff (as in, new parts for box, installing new OSes) 21:31:14 I'll likely be here on and off though 21:31:18 So see ya ! 21:31:29 (you may say "bye, good luck" now) 21:31:54 BYE 21:32:10 crap i forgot to flush my blocks to disk 21:32:40 NICE FUCKING GOOD LUCK WISH 21:32:43 --- quit: arke ("leaving") 22:06:10 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@gh-1177.gh.rice.edu) joined #forth 22:06:11 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:52:16 --- quit: Nutssh ("Client exiting") 22:52:28 --- join: Nutssh (~Foo@gh-1177.gh.rice.edu) joined #forth 23:00:11 --- quit: Sonarman ("Orodruin Resort and Spa") 23:13:54 --- join: arke (~arke@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 23:14:08 welcome to windows, chris :/ 23:14:26 har har 23:14:43 however, this time, I'm running Windows 2k again, which is infinetely better than XP 23:14:53 And I'll be running SuSE soon 23:14:56 and then debian, too 23:15:00 So it'll be good :) 23:15:33 brb, stupid reboot shit 23:15:37 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:18:04 --- join: arke (~arke@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 23:18:08 aaaand back :) 23:19:19 aah, yes, the few joys of windows... 23:19:36 "found new hardware" "look on the internet" "found it! driver installed" 23:21:51 linux is definetely missing that. 23:23:20 then again, we should all be using small cd-player size boxes running firmware forth 23:27:00 :) 23:30:11 debian and suse? 23:30:17 at the same time? 23:30:55 arke: kudzu is almost there, and most releases are updated with errata packages anyway 23:31:16 but seeing as most drivers are for things in the kernel 23:31:39 it takes a lot of effort to provide a single driver 23:32:04 heh 23:32:08 like nvidia, look at how much effort has gone into getting that to compile against various kernels, and it still has problems 23:32:17 SuSE has alot, but its buggy and ... well ... not complete :) 23:32:30 thats because nvidia makes odd cards :) 23:32:30 I guess as a end user, technical difficulties are no excuse 23:32:56 linux is the future anyway. 23:33:14 with IBM backing, OSX helping, MS has no chance :) 23:34:03 Hrm. 23:34:06 I have no life. 23:34:15 I install the OS, get internet to work, and download xchat. 23:34:18 I have no life. 23:34:19 :P 23:37:17 I'm in a rut, too 23:37:30 just kinda plodding along until my fiance finishes university 23:39:01 :) 23:42:13 brb, reboot shite 23:42:24 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:44:46 --- join: arke (~arke@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 23:48:22 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:50:36 --- join: arke (~arke@wbar8.lax1-4-11-099-104.dsl-verizon.net) joined #forth 23:53:36 :( 23:53:45 It seems that Cable in my room isn't connected :( 23:54:00 I could either do it tonight while parents snore or wait for my dad to do it tomorrow morning. 23:54:13 I think there's porn on at night. 23:54:52 * arke grins 23:55:06 its midnight here. 23:55:10 * warpzero grins also 23:55:16 I could either start installing SuSE 23:55:18 Two minutes to midnight =) 23:55:27 or get TV to work and go to sleep while wanking to free cable porn 23:55:34 o/~ two, minutes, to miiidnight / and the cow jumped over the moon o/~ 23:55:44 ayrnieu, more like 48.27 seconds 23:55:47 Something like that. 23:55:57 arke - sure, now. 23:56:10 so what do you think I should do? 23:56:12 suse? 23:56:14 I still have lots to do... 23:56:15 suse sucks. 23:56:23 suse is buggy, but neat 23:56:27 i like suse. 23:56:32 but its buggy 23:56:35 so im triple booting 23:56:39 windows, suse, debian 23:56:47 probably woody. 23:58:32 dude 23:58:34 gentoo 23:58:40 gentoo? 23:58:42 ack! 23:58:48 patchage, eh? 23:58:49 ack! yourself 23:59:00 gentoo is simply the best 23:59:15 Ack. 23:59:32 simply the best 23:59:33 Firmware forth is simply the best XD 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/04.01.17