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01:10:43 <hovil> I've seen utilities that provide such features
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09:20:44 <I440r> hi crc
09:23:16 <crc> Hello I440r
09:26:02 <I440r> :)
09:26:25 <I440r> we chatted before right ? - i THINK i remember chatting with you but... its old age, you ferget things :P
09:26:49 <crc> It's been a while. I moved recently and lacked 'net access for about a month or two.
09:28:29 <I440r> ouch hhe where did you move to/from ?
09:28:53 <crc> Just across town.
09:29:15 <crc> I'm still in PA, just outside Philly
09:31:01 <I440r> aha
09:31:47 <crc> I didn't have much time then anyway. Since I work in retail, I was pretty busy :)
09:33:29 <I440r> :)
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12:20:32 <arke> hi
12:23:53 <warpzero> Sup?
12:26:01 <arke> Nothing.
12:26:07 <arke> I got an aqua look now
12:26:09 <arke> its pretty
12:27:36 <warpzero> I hate the aqua look.
12:29:11 <MysticOne> I have an aqua look ... on my OS X box
12:30:00 <arke> MysticOne: bastard. i want one.
12:30:06 <MysticOne> go buy one :)
12:30:07 <arke> warpzero: i think it is exceptionally pretty.
12:30:51 <warpzero> I have the aqua look on my OS X box too.
12:30:59 <warpzero> When its booted into OS X which it isnt.
12:31:46 <MysticOne> I don't dual boot the mac
12:31:53 <MysticOne> it's nice and happy in its own OS :)
12:32:30 <warpzero> I don't really dual boot mine.
12:32:35 <warpzero> Its nice and happy in linux.
12:32:35 <I440r> i would like to know why isforth isnt found when googling for forth :/
12:33:42 <arke> :-/
12:33:50 <arke> wow.
12:33:56 <arke> xchat is saying 'snot' twice.
12:34:07 <warpzero> Huh?
12:34:07 <arke> but it actually means server notices.
12:34:10 <arke> lol
12:34:15 <arke> but it truncates
12:34:23 <arke> snotices truncates to snot
12:34:27 <arke> ^_^
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12:34:42 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
12:38:03 <arke> hi TheBlueWizard
12:38:22 <TheBlueWizard> hiya arke
12:39:02 <arke> whats up?
12:39:13 <Robert> Hi Wizard
12:39:32 <arke> :)
12:40:46 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Robert
12:41:08 <TheBlueWizard> arke: right now, I'm querying mathbot for info :)
12:41:17 <arke> :)
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13:46:14 <TheBlueWizard> gotta go...bye all
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16:48:09 <Infiel> so, any nice forths with good libraries and documentation out there?
16:48:24 <Robert> Does source code count as documentation?
16:48:39 <Robert> What system are you using anyway?
16:49:10 <Infiel> x86
16:50:31 <Robert> Looking for a Forth that runs under another operating system?
16:50:56 <Robert> gforth is pretty well-documented, and it runs on many systems.
16:51:27 <Robert> I usually use isForth, a Linux Forth (unfortunately without much documentation).
16:56:05 <Infiel> Is there anything in the form of graphics libraries?
16:56:10 <Infiel> for either of the above
16:57:06 <Robert> For isForth - no. Not sure about gforth, but I think not.
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17:28:01 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all...just checking in
17:28:15 <tathi> hi
17:28:31 <TheBlueWizard> hiya tathi
17:32:47 <tathi> not much going on here.
17:35:17 <Mark4> hi
17:35:28 * Mark4 making some ammo for my ar-15 :)
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17:36:25 <TheBlueWizard> hiya I440r :)
17:37:13 <I440r> :)
17:45:42 <fridge> I440r: what do you use it for?
17:46:18 <fridge> overthrowing governments? :)
17:46:19 <I440r> use what for?
17:46:22 <I440r> the ar-15 ?
17:46:28 <I440r> not recently :)
17:46:35 <I440r> i hunt paper
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17:48:20 <I440r> i wanna do high power rifle competitions - that takes accurate cartridges - the MOST accurate are maded with a LEE loader which is what im using
17:48:49 <I440r> however - mine is unmodified. if you modify it to do only a partial neck resize you have a way more accurate cartridge
17:49:13 <I440r> of corse the accuracy is also dependant on the triger actuator :)
17:50:13 <fridge> my parents just bought a farm
17:50:42 <fridge> I was going to get a gun license and go kill som wabbits
17:51:33 <I440r> fridge where are you ?
17:51:43 <I440r> you dont NEED a lisence for the gun
17:51:54 <I440r> if its a long gun you dont need a permit to carry it eithger
17:51:55 <fridge> in australia
17:52:00 <I440r> you might need a hunting lisence
17:52:17 <I440r> ooh i didnt think you could get ANY firearms in australia
17:52:18 <fridge> we don't have as liberal gun laws as across the pacific
17:52:39 <fridge> they banned fully auto and semi autos
17:52:47 <I440r> and as a result austrilia is in the top 3 highest violent crime rates in the world
17:53:05 <I440r> along with england
17:53:07 <fridge> lots of illegal handguns around =(
17:53:16 <I440r> which banned ALL guns
17:54:01 <fridge> I440r: where do you get that data from?
17:54:24 <fridge> I think I'd feel safer here than in say, sudan
17:54:26 <fridge> =)
17:54:34 <TheBlueWizard> Japan also bans handguns...yet it has low crime
17:56:01 <I440r> true
17:56:06 <I440r> but
17:56:19 <I440r> their society also has a habit of not reporting crimes
17:56:39 <I440r> because a victim is dishonored and thus looses face
17:56:50 <TheBlueWizard> maybe....but I doubt it
17:57:02 <I440r> so i think the statistics for japan are skewed
17:57:30 <I440r> get on a bus. rape a teenager going home ON THE BUS
17:57:35 <I440r> chances are she wont report it
17:57:44 <I440r> because SHE is at fault for having been raped
17:57:57 <I440r> it reflects on her
17:58:28 <I440r> thers also sweeden
17:58:44 <I440r> it truely does have a low crime rate for a NORMALLY unarmed populace
17:58:57 <I440r> but every single household is REQUIRED by law to have some sort of firearm 
18:00:16 <fridge> majority of males serve in the armed forces for 2 years or something aswell/
18:00:16 <fridge> ?
18:00:31 <I440r> no. ALL
18:00:38 <I440r> they are required to serve
18:00:48 <I440r> its not optinal :)
18:01:26 <fridge> I440r, I doubt someone with cystic fibrosis, for example, would be required to serve
18:02:17 <I440r> medical reasons notwithstanding national service is compulsory
18:03:25 <TheBlueWizard> even those who claim on religious ground or asserts being a conscientious objector are required to serve nonetheless?
18:03:37 <I440r> i believe so
18:03:48 <I440r> and RIGHTLY so
18:04:00 <I440r> i think this country would be far far better if we still had a draft
18:04:13 <I440r> minimum of 2 years if drafted sounds good
18:04:57 * TheBlueWizard doesn't think it would be that good an idea....some will actually leave the country as a result
18:06:04 <tathi> heh
18:06:08 <I440r> good
18:06:31 <I440r> hmmm there you go... for anyone to gain residency rights they have to serve 10 years minimum
18:06:38 <I440r> if they get out early they LEAVE the country
18:06:55 <MysticOne> and what country are we talking about here?
18:07:01 <I440r> if they come back after that they start over :P
18:07:03 <I440r> USA
18:07:10 <I440r> when im dictator ill enact that law
18:07:12 * fridge labels I440r a troll
18:07:16 <MysticOne> fridge: I agree
18:07:31 <I440r> aliens required to serve 10 years prior to full citizenship being given
18:07:34 * MysticOne notes if he's forced to join the military, he'll go AWOL and kill I440r 
18:07:42 <I440r> :)
18:07:48 <I440r> you forget im armed :P
18:07:55 * TheBlueWizard agrees that I440r is becoming a troll now
18:08:12 * Herkamire agrees
18:08:52 <fridge> I think a draft is stupid
18:09:06 <MysticOne> I440r: if having a gun makes you invunerable, then I guess you got me there ... of course, last time I checked, that wasn't the case
18:09:08 <Herkamire> I think the military is stupid.
18:09:17 <fridge> If the population won't volunteer of their own accord, there is something wrong with the governments argument for going to war
18:09:25 <MysticOne> fridge: agreed
18:09:32 <I440r> im bulletproof
18:09:35 <I440r> :)
18:09:36 <MysticOne> I'm fine in supporting my country if it's justified
18:09:41 <I440r> <-- captain scarlet
18:09:48 <fridge> you'd find a lot of willing hands if ground forces started landing on american shores, I'm sure.
18:09:52 <tathi> here we go again.... *sigh* :P
18:09:55 <Herkamire> I think the president is stupid and corrupt
18:10:04 <MysticOne> I think I want my dinner to finish because I'm hungry
18:10:08 * TheBlueWizard doesn't think ianp is bulletproof...cuz he can /kick him off here :)))
18:10:09 <MysticOne> but it'll be a few more hours
18:10:20 <TheBlueWizard> oops, I mean I440r, not ianp
18:10:28 <I440r> lol
18:10:33 <I440r> i can kick back :
18:10:36 <I440r> p
18:10:57 <TheBlueWizard> yeah right <acid tone>
18:11:06 <TheBlueWizard> :)
18:11:09 <I440r> hehe
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18:17:40 <TheBlueWizard> well, gotta go...bye all
18:17:52 <I440r> nite dood
18:18:13 <TheBlueWizard> bye I440r
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19:28:46 <slava> does something like lisp's 'format' make sense in a concatenative language?
19:29:19 <slava> i've thought it would simplify and shorten a lot of code i have here, but consuming variable numbers of params off the stack might get messy.
20:16:02 <TreyB> Do we ever see Albert Mitchell visit here?
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23:10:20 <kc5tja> wELL, i THINK i'M GOING OFF TO SLEEP.
23:10:22 <kc5tja> err.
23:10:23 <kc5tja> wow.
23:10:32 <kc5tja> Yeah, definitely bedtime for me.
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