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00:39:55 <I440r> hi cmeme
00:40:00 <I440r> are you new in here ?
00:40:07 <I440r> dont think ive see you before heh
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00:58:24 <arke> pdd. irssi can connect, but xchat can't. lol
00:58:37 <arke> odd*
01:00:06 <I440r> you need ident
01:00:16 <I440r> xchat lags on connect if you dont ident
01:00:42 <arke> ident?
01:01:34 <I440r> yes you need to have an ident server running
01:03:32 <arke> er...
01:03:39 <arke> wussat?
01:03:39 <arke> why?
01:03:39 <arke> etc.
01:03:52 <I440r> your in linux yes ?
01:03:58 <I440r> are you behind a firewall ?
01:04:14 <arke> yes
01:04:21 <arke> and yes
01:04:59 <I440r> the firewall is a problem - but then thers midentd
01:05:07 <arke> hrm
01:05:10 <arke> whats the point of ident?
01:05:11 <I440r> you need to have an ident server on your firewall 
01:05:17 <I440r> its a bullshit thing
01:05:29 <arke> ...
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01:18:25 <arke> hi rO| 
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02:11:10 <snowrichard> http://richardsnow.is-a-geek/isforth.html
02:11:22 <snowrichard> draft manual going to sleep again now
02:12:26 <snowrichard> http://richardsnow.is-a-geek.net/isforth.html
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02:20:58 <fridge> snowrichard, word on the street is that you are a geek
02:38:33 * rO| wishing you all a good new one ;-)
02:39:10 <rO|> hi arke, how are you doing?
02:40:10 <snowrichard> hi just got out of shower
02:40:30 <snowrichard> that domain name belongs to dyndns.org
02:40:40 <snowrichard> free dynamic dns
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04:32:27 <snowrichard> morning has broken
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05:17:21 <snowrichard> hello
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05:25:52 <Robert> Morning
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07:04:38 <MysticOne> arke: btw, xchat doesn't lag if you don't have ident, but the server will lag if you're not either accepting ident or refusing ident (i.e., if you drop the packets, it'll just sit and wait forever)
07:04:49 <MysticOne> I440r: and ident isn't some bullshit thing, it actually makes a lot of sense
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09:34:32 <arke> hi kc5tja 
09:49:55 <kc5tja> re, but bye as well.
09:49:58 <kc5tja> I have to get to work.
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11:52:37 <I440r> MysticOne, ident is bullshit, i can pick any ident i want so it doesnt identicy ANYONE
11:52:48 <I440r> theres no reason for an irc server to INSIST you ident
11:53:03 <I440r> also - everyone can have exactly the SAME ident
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12:00:22 <MysticOne> I440r: go get on a shell that runs identd where you have only one username
12:00:30 <MysticOne> I440r: you *cannot* change it
12:00:53 <MysticOne> I440r: skr1pt k1dd13z usually have bots and accounts on shells like this, and it makes them much, much easier to block
12:02:34 <I440r> most people on irc ARENT running from a shell
12:02:47 <I440r> an ident is not a sigiatrure
12:02:59 <I440r> if it was it would be better but also far far worse
12:03:05 <MysticOne> man ...
12:03:08 <MysticOne> you really don't have a clue
12:03:29 <I440r> ident is pointless.
12:03:37 <MysticOne> how about pick a topic to argue that you're not ignorant on?
12:03:41 * MysticOne puts I440r on ignore
12:03:43 <I440r> if a script kiddie abuses his shell he would LOSE it with any REAL admin
12:03:48 <I440r> fuck you too
12:04:34 <I440r> if the ISP
12:04:46 <I440r> ermif the ISP ran the ident then fine 
12:04:55 <I440r> but he doesnt
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13:01:57 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
13:05:50 <Robert> Terve :)
13:08:23 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Robert :)
13:42:27 <mur> terve :)
13:42:34 <mur> terve tbw, terve Robert 
13:43:39 <TheBlueWizard> hiya mur :)
14:15:53 <TheBlueWizard> gotta go...bye all
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17:04:39 * warpzero is away: Away message.
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17:39:19 <I440r> i imaginator
17:39:22 <I440r> hi even
17:40:04 <warpzero> Lol.
17:40:08 <warpzero> Sup I440r
17:40:16 <I440r> bored
17:40:19 <warpzero> Sup imaginator
17:40:24 <warpzero> Oh yeah?
17:41:31 <imaginator> Hi
17:42:13 <warpzero> Let's have a party guys.
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17:52:58 <imaginator> I'm up for a party.
17:59:16 <warpzero> Sweet.
17:59:16 <warpzero> Your place or mine?
18:12:42 <imaginator> It would have to be a virtual party.
18:13:07 <imaginator> I was thinking on the floor of #Forth
18:13:39 <imaginator> Go #Forth and party!
19:22:52 <madgarden> Go #forth and metacompile.
19:34:18 <warpzero> Go #forth and make bad puns.
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20:55:23 <snowrichard> hello
20:56:07 <snowrichard> can someone do me a favor and send an email to richard2@richardsnow.is-a-geek.net to test my mail server setup?
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21:06:38 <arke> the new offspring CD kicks ass...
21:21:13 <MysticOne> only CDs I'll get nowadays are Dream Theater and anything they do on the side
21:21:15 <MysticOne> that's about it
21:21:31 <MysticOne> except that my coworker has some really cool metal albums from lesser known artists
21:31:35 <arke> the cool things about linux is that when I look at porn, and mozilla freezes, I can always ctrl+alt+backspace into terminal mode and say I just booted a new kernel.
21:33:29 <MysticOne> umm... yes
21:34:19 <arke> :d
21:34:24 <arke> you're supposed to laugh :)
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22:22:55 <arke> hiya
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22:47:19 <arke> 5C5C5D5C5D5C5D5C5D
22:47:25 <arke> oops, sorry
23:40:42 <arke> can anybody using osx tell me the exact use for each button in the title bar of a window?
23:40:45 <arke> i know the furthest left is close, but i need to know the otherss..
23:47:06 <hovil> minify and maximize I think
23:47:43 <arke> shade is in the middle, maximize on the right of the left group?
23:51:08 <I440r> i wish windows had shade
23:53:16 <arke> I440r: i agree.
23:53:19 <arke> its such a great feature.
23:53:44 <arke> especially one with such an outdated graphics system concept WHICH DOESNT USE SEVERAL VIRTUAL DESKTOPS
23:53:50 <arke> serisoult
23:53:53 <arke> fucking learn, MS
23:54:02 <arke> the concept has been around longer than I have been alive.
23:57:59 <arke> uugh.
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