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03:05:57 <Robert> Privet, Serg_Penguin :)
03:09:15 <Serg_Penguin> HI !
03:10:09 * Robert got to borrow a shortwave radio :))
03:11:32 <Serg_Penguin> RX or TX ? :))
03:11:47 <Robert> Haven't got any transmitting license, so I'm just listening...
03:12:01 <Robert> On the 17m band now.
03:12:47 <Serg_Penguin> here are lotsa unlicensed :((
03:13:03 <Serg_Penguin> lamers w/ bad rigs, who jam all over the spectrum
03:13:04 <Robert> I'm going to get my license soon, so.. 
03:13:07 <Robert> Hehe
03:13:34 <Robert> A guy told me about how he used to chat with his friend on navy emergency channels :P
03:13:38 <Robert> That was in the 30a
03:13:40 <Robert> 30s
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14:52:12 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
14:53:36 <warp0x00> sup
14:53:41 <warp0x00> mr blue wizard man
14:54:25 <TheBlueWizard> hiya warp0x00...and I am not "mr ... man"...just The Blue Wizard
14:54:45 <TheBlueWizard> :)
14:54:50 <warp0x00> do you have a blue wizard hat mr blue wizard man?
14:55:06 <TheBlueWizard> no...wearing a flowing blue robe :)
14:55:15 <TheBlueWizard> no hat here
14:56:57 <warp0x00> oh um
14:56:59 <warp0x00> sup
14:57:41 <TheBlueWizard> nothing much...checking emails, websites, lurking, and will watch TV news
14:57:59 <TheBlueWizard> later: work on some programs
14:58:03 <warp0x00> mmm, mmm, lurking
14:59:47 <TheBlueWizard> warp0x00: what about you?
14:59:48 <mur> terve twb
14:59:55 <warp0x00> what
15:00:04 <warp0x00> TheBlueWizard: i'm good i guess, tired
15:00:29 <TheBlueWizard> hyvää iltää mur! :)
15:00:50 <warp0x00> what language are you people speaking
15:00:56 <TheBlueWizard> mitä kuuluu, mur?
15:01:16 <TheBlueWizard> warp0x00: Suomi (also known as Finnish :)
15:01:31 <warp0x00> oh i see
15:03:38 <TheBlueWizard> mur on suomalainen ja olen amerikkalainen (mur is a Finn and I'm an American)
15:05:40 <warp0x00> im american and i dont understand any other languages than american, c, perl, php, sql, html, basic variants, etc.
15:07:07 <TheBlueWizard> heh...I'm fluent in two languages and understand some French and Finnish, know a smattering of several other foreign languages.  I also know numerous computer languages (at least 15 of them)
15:07:53 <warp0x00> yeah i can never remember all the computer languages i know to list them
15:08:04 <TheBlueWizard> :)
15:08:05 <warp0x00> i admit i know some french but not alot
15:13:36 * warp0x00 is away: walk like a champION
15:19:16 <mur> TheBlueWizard: ok
15:19:20 <mur> i have exam tomrorow
15:19:22 <mur> going sleep now
15:19:27 <mur> i'll be here tomorrow
15:19:31 <mur> see you
15:20:02 <mur> TheBlueWizard: are you interested in semiotics?
15:20:39 <mur> err
15:20:43 <mur> hm'
15:21:47 <TheBlueWizard> semiotics?
15:22:00 * TheBlueWizard has forgotten what that is
15:22:23 * TheBlueWizard decides to google for it :)
15:25:21 <TheBlueWizard> hmm...it looks like semiotics is a big topic
15:25:42 <TheBlueWizard> though I believe you are thinking of sign language...
15:25:54 <Robert> :-D
15:25:57 <Robert> Hi there
15:26:05 <TheBlueWizard> hiya ree :)
15:26:28 <mur> gtg sleep
15:26:32 <mur> exam tomrorow in 6 hours
15:26:45 <mur> hyvää yötä, Robert ja TheBlueWizard 
15:27:27 <TheBlueWizard> yötä :)
15:28:30 <Robert> Good luck, mur 
15:28:37 <Robert> And night.
15:28:44 <Robert> ree: Hi there ;)
15:29:42 <TheBlueWizard> mur: ja hyvä onni :)
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15:33:33 <TheBlueWizard> hiya skylan
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18:02:00 <TheBlueWizard> well, gotta go...bye all :)
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18:56:14 <kc5tja> Gone for some food.
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20:09:43 <arke> kc5tja!
20:09:44 <arke> :)
20:09:48 <kc5tja> Heyas
20:10:51 <arke> kc5tja: i found a super sweet language the other day
20:10:57 <arke> kc5tja: and I'm using it for teh server
20:11:01 <arke> kc5tja: guess what it is.
20:11:32 <kc5tja> Lisp.
20:11:47 <arke> nope
20:11:49 <arke> not even close
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20:13:47 <arke> I'll give you a giant huge massive hint
20:14:03 <arke> an OOP language which is 100% backwards compatible to C
20:19:21 <chandler> ObjC
20:21:58 <arke> :)
20:22:02 <arke> such a sweet language
20:22:05 <arke> i love it
20:22:10 <Sonarman> arke: why?
20:22:21 <arke> Sonarman: I don't know. I just do.
20:22:33 <arke> I've always been a fan of C, and C++ was just too ... well, weird :P
20:22:43 <arke> and i _do_ like oop
20:41:57 <kc5tja> Objective C is an outstanding languge.
20:42:01 <kc5tja> I like it a lot too.
20:42:22 <kc5tja> Unfortunately, Linux support for it is lack-luster, at best.
20:44:03 <arke> theres gobjc
20:44:04 <arke> and
20:44:10 <arke> its completely compatible with C
20:44:17 <arke> so whats the problem? :)
20:47:03 <kc5tja> The problem comes in that you cannot dynamically load Objective-C class implementations like you can under NeXTStep (though under GNUStep, I believe they have this facility working.  But it's highly GNUStep specific.)
20:49:06 * kc5tja is away: errands
20:49:11 <kc5tja> back in a bit.
20:56:12 <arke> kc5tja: what do you mean with that?
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21:31:58 <kc5tja> re arke
21:34:31 <arke> re kc5tja 
21:34:40 <arke> objc is teh sw33t
21:36:00 <kc5tja> :)
21:40:54 <kc5tja> That's OK.  I'm writing my text editor using literate programming.
21:41:09 <kc5tja> TeX is a bad-ass typesetting language.
21:41:10 <kc5tja> :)
21:41:27 <kc5tja> It definitely suffers from a lot of inconsistencies though.
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22:10:18 <arke> argh
22:10:25 <arke> my computer keeps freezing :(
22:10:32 <kc5tja> Yeah, you're just not staying connected for some reason.
22:10:39 <kc5tja> Oh... :(
22:10:54 <arke> bad
22:10:55 <arke> very bad
22:10:58 <arke> aaaaargh
22:11:00 <kc5tja> Linux?
22:11:04 <arke> yep
22:11:09 <kc5tja> !?
22:11:10 <arke> just did a bios Fail-safe
22:11:13 <kc5tja> Buggy kernel version?
22:11:17 <arke> not really
22:11:22 <arke> 2.4.21-99-athlon
22:11:42 <arke> booted up, and realized that fail-safe disables USB
22:11:47 <arke> and my mouse is USB
22:11:51 <arke> so i had to reboot again.
22:12:01 <arke> for some reason, my init takes forever. I have to fix that.
22:12:23 <kc5tja> hmmmm
22:12:37 <kc5tja> What do you mean by `forever'?
22:12:49 <kc5tja> It takes a long time to access the harddrive?
22:13:21 <arke> well
22:13:35 <arke> after some reiserfs message, it takes like 30 seconds to start init
22:13:44 <arke> but then it takes 2 minutes for some NFS thing
22:13:48 <arke> but I already fixed the latter :)
22:16:57 * kc5tja always makes sure to disable NFS.
22:17:20 <arke> :)
22:17:26 <arke> eenyway
22:17:37 <arke> everything seems to work now
22:17:41 <arke> i think i blame it on gaim
22:19:09 <ree> hey
22:19:22 <kc5tja> re ree
22:19:23 <kc5tja> :)
22:19:29 <kc5tja> That was fun to type.  :)
22:19:51 <arke> ree!
22:19:52 <arke> :)
22:22:58 <ree> yeah
22:23:04 <ree> my nick is unusually fun to type :)
22:25:05 <kc5tja> :)
22:25:15 <kc5tja> I like my nick -- people hate it.  :)
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22:25:24 <kc5tja> Guarantees a nice, clean, unique nick for me on any server.
22:25:42 <Sonarman> and it's so creative :)
22:26:26 <ree> hehe
22:26:30 <ree> bold is fun!
22:26:43 <ree> ree = sexy
22:26:54 <Sonarman> hello i am so sloppy i forget to end my bolds
22:27:00 <ree> so how is everyone's forthing going?
22:27:14 <kc5tja> Sonarman: Actually, it's not.  It's my amateur radio callsign.  It's assigned by the FCC.  I didn't have to think of it.  :)
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22:27:43 <Sonarman> kc5tja: yeah, i know.  that's why i bolded the so, to try to convey sarcasm
22:27:51 <kc5tja> Ahh :)
22:28:16 <ree> hey, using bold to denote sarcasm is so creative!
22:28:20 <ree> :)
22:28:23 <ree> j/k
22:28:35 <ree> bold isn't used enough on irc
22:29:04 <Sonarman> it's such a good thing you added the j/k to indicate you were joking, otherwise i might have gotten really offended
22:29:20 <Sonarman> :)
22:29:25 <Sonarman> j/k
22:31:24 <ree> heh
22:33:50 <kc5tja> Bedtime for me.
22:33:55 <kc5tja> Work in the morning.  :/
22:34:07 <ree> hmm, forth dimensions looks cool
22:34:39 <Sonarman> ree: did you see the post on usenet by the guy who was offering to give away his collection of forth dimensions issues?
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22:37:12 <ree> nope sonar
22:37:22 <ree> I'm not even into forth _yet_ heh
22:37:25 <ree> just asm atm
22:37:30 <Sonarman> ree: cool :)
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22:37:33 <ree> haven't exactly decided on it yet
22:37:56 <Sonarman> ree: i can't say i'm into forth yet either; i still have a lot to learn
22:38:02 <arke> this is fucking pissing me off
22:38:02 <Sonarman> (about it)
22:38:12 <arke> why the FUCK does it keep freezing!?
22:38:36 <Sonarman> maybe X drivers?
22:39:14 <arke> well
22:39:19 <arke> it never had any problems before today
22:40:20 <Sonarman> have you tried booting into windows?
22:40:32 <arke> not dualbooting
22:40:46 <arke> grrrrr
22:41:02 <ree> I'm just not sure what benefits a stack-based approach offer
22:41:15 <arke> ree: .
22:41:21 <arke> ree: space, man!
22:41:32 <arke> ree: you know how much space C uses? tremendous!
22:42:12 <ree> I'm not talking about C hehe
22:42:19 <ree> or any other language
22:42:21 <ree> just forth :)
22:42:53 <ree> I am not sure if DNOS is big enough to even write code in a "hll"  
22:43:18 <arke> naaaah
22:43:21 <arke> dnos = asm only.
22:43:39 <arke> OK
22:43:53 <Sonarman> ree: what is DNOS?
22:44:01 <arke> each time i was ripping when it crashed, it crashed on the second track at 60%
22:44:03 <ree> a network os project
22:44:06 <arke> which is where i am right now
22:44:13 <Sonarman> distributed network os?
22:44:18 <ree> yeah
22:44:22 <arke> :)
22:44:40 <ree> or DIST network os.. we're not sure yet
22:44:41 <ree> heh
22:44:44 <Sonarman> arke: maybe it's copy protection :P
22:44:58 <arke> no
22:45:06 <arke> 1) thats not the only time it freezes
22:45:13 <arke> 2) it doesnt, ive ripped that CD before
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22:52:44 <ree> heheh
22:52:54 <ree> time to downgrade the kernel :)
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22:55:11 <arke> i am gonna cry
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22:56:11 <ree> downgrade your kernel arke
22:57:11 <arke> ree: nope.
22:57:14 <arke> :)
22:57:23 <arke> i think it was my graphics card. 
22:57:29 <arke> it was hanging kinda loose in the socket
22:57:31 <ree> if you want more than a 5 minute uptime..
22:57:35 <ree> hehe
22:57:41 <arke> l0l
22:57:48 <arke> hrm
22:57:51 <arke> this still sucks.
22:58:14 <arke> wow, _this_ gnome is actually about as pretty as KDE
22:58:30 <ree> I think kde is ugly 
22:58:37 <ree> but has the highest integration
22:58:45 <arke> KDE with Keramik is pretty good looking
22:59:12 <ree> most people find gnome prettier hehe
22:59:17 <ree> just sloppy
22:59:58 <arke> hehe
23:00:08 <arke> the gnome that came with suse 8.1 was uuuuugly
23:00:15 <arke> this one is actually quite nice
23:00:30 <arke> and the buttons are like the keramik theme ones ....
23:00:31 <arke> :)
23:08:44 <arke> it seems that i fixed it.
23:08:49 <arke> it hasnt crashed in
23:09:02 <arke> 18 minutes
23:09:56 <warp0x00> sup guys
23:10:21 <Sonarman> hey warp0x00 
23:10:41 <arke> hey warp0x00 
23:10:51 <warp0x00> whats going on?
23:11:14 <arke> my compie likes to freeze at seemingly random times lol
23:11:37 <warp0x00> uh oh
23:11:43 <warp0x00> check your kernel
23:11:45 <Sonarman> warp0x00: were you the one who wanted to create a bumper sticker that says "Hey Intel, turn your endian around!", months ago?
23:12:07 <warp0x00> yeah well it was more like hey intel, you're sticking it in the wrong endian but yeah
23:12:57 <Sonarman> hah :)
23:13:21 <warp0x00> how do you know this
23:14:32 <Sonarman> i dunno... it just suddenly "came" to me... perhaps in a dream
23:14:38 <Sonarman> just kidding :)
23:14:58 <Sonarman> i remembered you saying it, or someone you were having a conversation with saying it
23:15:16 <Sonarman> now i just wanted to see if i remembered correctly
23:15:26 <warp0x00> this was maybe like a year ago or more
23:15:55 <Sonarman> 6-8 months
23:17:39 <Sonarman> sorry if it was a weird thing to ask
23:19:52 <warp0x00> yeah man you're creeping me out
23:19:56 <warp0x00> that was a long time ago
23:20:01 <arke> its funny tho
23:20:02 <warp0x00> i certainly didn't hang out in here
23:20:04 <arke> :)
23:20:13 <ree> there is a little thing called logs
23:20:16 <Sonarman> it was in #gentoppc
23:20:18 <Sonarman> IIRC
23:20:20 <ree> and associaton :)
23:20:23 <warp0x00> itt i only hung out in #gentoo-ppc yeah
23:20:58 <Sonarman> and you had windowmaker on your iBook next to your dual-head PC :)
23:21:15 <warp0x00> damn straight
23:21:25 <warp0x00> i still would but uh i broke that ibook
23:22:26 <arke> OK, I haven't crashed at all since i did the graphics card thing
23:22:41 <arke> now time to rip a CD and see if it freezes or not
23:22:42 <arke> hopefull not
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23:23:32 <warp0x00> okay bye
23:23:32 <warp0x00> wtf
23:26:24 <arke> eek
23:26:27 <arke> the dreaded 60%
23:26:33 <warp0x00> i always miss kcalphanumericstring
23:26:37 <arke> please work
23:26:40 <warp0x00> and he makes me happy
23:26:49 <arke> heh
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