07:14:48 --- log: started forth/03.11.19 07:14:48 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 07:14:48 --- topic: 'where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, data structure and algorithm design, and occasionally Forth' 07:14:48 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Wed Oct 15 21:47:35 2003] 07:14:48 --- names: list (clog elmex haroldo warpzero Robert z0d onetom skylan Zoopee @ChanServ chandler ianP mur MysticOne oooo) 07:16:22 --- join: schihei (~schihei@grz5.rz.fh-albsig.de) joined #forth 07:22:02 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 07:23:37 --- join: madgarden (~bughead@216.94.153.178) joined #forth 08:11:14 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:29:29 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:57:44 --- join: Mulder (~mark@scc-nat.stchas.edu) joined #forth 08:57:54 --- part: Mulder left #forth 09:00:37 --- join: melinda (melinda@melinda.usercloak.freenode) joined #forth 09:02:35 --- join: I440r (~mark4@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 09:29:00 --- quit: I440r ("brb") 09:34:16 --- quit: Robert (Remote closed the connection) 09:34:47 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 09:40:25 --- join: I440r (~mark4@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 09:47:40 --- quit: I440r ("grr sox sux") 09:50:13 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9548DDB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 10:26:19 --- quit: schihei (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:26:19 --- quit: Robert (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:26:19 --- quit: melinda (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:26:19 --- quit: Herkamire (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:26:20 --- quit: skylan (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:26:42 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9548DDB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 10:26:42 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 10:26:42 --- join: melinda (melinda@melinda.usercloak.freenode) joined #forth 10:26:42 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 10:26:42 --- join: skylan (sjh@vickesh01-4820.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 10:36:35 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 10:36:48 --- join: ratziggur (~bughead@216.94.153.178) joined #forth 11:16:22 --- join: I440r (~mark4@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 11:16:42 Hi :) 11:17:03 ! 11:17:18 hi 11:20:50 --- log: started forth/03.11.19 11:20:50 --- join: clog_ (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 11:20:50 --- topic: 'where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, data structure and algorithm design, and occasionally Forth' 11:20:50 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Wed Oct 15 21:47:35 2003] 11:20:50 --- names: list (clog_ I440r madgarden skylan Herkamire melinda Robert clog elmex haroldo warpzero z0d onetom Zoopee oooo MysticOne mur ianP chandler @ChanServ) 11:37:04 --- quit: I440r ("bleh!") 11:37:44 --- quit: clog (Success) 11:37:45 --- nick: clog_ -> clog 11:43:08 --- quit: melinda (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:47:58 --- log: started forth/03.11.19 11:47:58 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 11:47:58 --- topic: 'where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, data structure and algorithm design, and occasionally Forth' 11:47:58 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Wed Oct 15 21:47:35 2003] 11:47:58 --- names: list (clog madgarden skylan Herkamire Robert elmex haroldo warpzero z0d onetom Zoopee oooo MysticOne mur ianP chandler @ChanServ) 12:11:13 --- log: started forth/03.11.19 12:11:13 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 12:11:13 --- topic: 'where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, data structure and algorithm design, and occasionally Forth' 12:11:13 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Wed Oct 15 21:47:35 2003] 12:11:13 --- names: list (clog madgarden skylan Herkamire Robert elmex haroldo warpzero z0d onetom Zoopee @ChanServ chandler ianP mur MysticOne oooo) 12:23:16 --- join: jma (~jma@h-64-105-21-62.DNVTCO56.covad.net) joined #forth 12:28:50 --- log: started forth/03.11.19 12:28:50 --- join: clog_ (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 12:28:50 --- topic: 'where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, data structure and algorithm design, and occasionally Forth' 12:28:50 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Wed Oct 15 21:47:35 2003] 12:28:50 --- names: list (clog_ jma clog madgarden skylan Herkamire Robert elmex haroldo warpzero z0d onetom chandler ianP mur MysticOne oooo @ChanServ Zoopee) 12:30:40 --- join: schihei (~schihei@p5085DF54.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:44:41 --- quit: clog (Connection timed out) 12:44:42 --- nick: clog_ -> clog 12:57:49 I need to come up with an OS license for one of my own projects that I want to use and develop for integration into products at work. Any ideas? Maybe Artistic... 13:05:40 public domain? 13:06:31 Well, that doesn't let me keep any changes I make. PD will let them take the code and own it. 13:07:02 PD means you can do whatever you want with it 13:07:07 (and so can anybody else) 13:07:53 Yes, which means that the code is theirs. I don't want that. I want it to me mine, but I just let them use it. ;) And any improvements I make to it at work can be applied to the standard distribution. 13:08:29 how about lgpl 13:12:08 I don't agree that PD makes it theirs. 13:15:23 PD doesn't restrict them from making it theirs. It lets them do anything at all with it. That includes slapping their own copyright onto their modified version of the code, AFAIK. And that sucks for me, since I want to keep "free" any improvements I make in the code. 13:16:40 http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?public+domain 13:17:22 I can't keep my copyright if it's PD. 13:33:32 nope 13:33:42 what do you want a copyright for? 13:35:03 Because it's my code. :) 13:50:36 --- quit: jma () 14:02:35 --- quit: madgarden ("*poof*") 14:29:39 --- join: I440r (~mark4@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 14:38:57 --- join: jamc (dne@as3-6-8.asp.s.bonet.se) joined #forth 15:00:09 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 15:19:12 --- quit: haroldo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:21:43 --- join: haroldo (~haroldo@r200-40-213-125.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined #forth 15:33:16 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:37:43 --- join: arke (~chris@ca-cmrilo-cuda1-c3b-66.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 15:50:05 greetings and salutations, fellow earth creatures 16:04:34 --- quit: jamc ("I appoint you ambassador to Fantasy Island!!!") 16:14:46 --- quit: onetom (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:15:38 --- quit: z0d (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:15:43 --- join: onetom (~tom@cab.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 16:15:51 --- join: z0d (~z0d@nilus-397.adsl.datanet.hu) joined #forth 16:16:04 --- quit: Herkamire (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:16:04 --- quit: skylan (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:16:04 --- quit: Robert (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:16:12 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 16:16:12 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 16:16:12 --- join: skylan (sjh@vickesh01-4820.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 16:24:28 --- quit: Herkamire (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:24:28 --- quit: skylan (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:24:28 --- quit: Robert (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:24:38 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 16:24:38 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 16:24:38 --- join: skylan (sjh@vickesh01-4820.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 16:30:03 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-165-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 17:12:53 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.197) joined #forth 17:13:19 Dobroe utro! 17:15:02 hi ASau 17:17:31 Yesterday I started NPX coding. 17:18:10 It seems my Forth changes to something shell-like. 17:18:14 :) 17:25:11 It also seems I've found a simple way to write a compiler of ITS or DTC. 17:26:25 Words just run or build code, depending on STATE 17:26:54 Calls are opened just plain inlining. 17:27:11 No optimization at the time. 17:36:16 Does anyone know (have a link to) text editor in Forth? 17:36:54 Or a library, that maintains structures needed for it? 17:40:47 pygmy 17:40:50 :) 17:41:01 ASau: kc5tja is writing VIBE which is a vi-like block editor. should have a bunch of the parts you'd want. it's written for gforth I believe. 17:41:04 http://forth.bespin.org/Members/kc5tja/vibe-2.1.fs/view 17:41:22 IIRC, pygmy has screen editor, not a text. 17:41:38 :) 17:44:18 VIBE is also a screen editor 17:45:17 Well, screens are good. 17:45:52 They were good if I started writing them since the very beginning. 17:46:10 But I had not done. 17:47:31 It's too late to rewrite every thing into screens. I'm too lazy not to do this. 17:53:54 Maybe, I'll be back. 17:53:56 --- quit: ASau ("Toffee IRC client for DOS v1.0/b535") 18:22:26 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576567.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 20:30:43 --- quit: elmex ("leaving") 20:42:54 where people get together to talk about CVT, stirling engines, tesla turbines, 20:42:54 17:36 < ASau> Or a library, that maintains structures needed for it? 20:42:54 17:40 < arke> pygmy 20:42:54 17:40 < arke> :) 20:42:54 17:40 < Herkamire> ASau: kc5tja is writing VIBE which is a vi-like block 20:42:56 editor. should have a bunch of the parts you'd want. it's 20:42:59 written for gforth I believe. 20:42:59 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 20:43:12 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-165-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 20:43:20 crap sorry 20:44:41 --- quit: Sonarman (Client Quit) 20:45:45 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-165-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 20:46:49 --- part: madgarden left #forth 21:24:58 --- join: I440r (~mark4@12-58.lctv-a5.cablelynx.com) joined #forth 21:47:43 --- join: haroldo_ (~haroldo@r200-40-164-191.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined #forth 21:49:13 --- quit: haroldo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:52:51 --- quit: warpzero (Excess Flood) 21:53:34 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 22:17:49 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 22:20:31 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 22:22:39 hi ! 22:22:39 hi I440r ;))) 22:22:39 any new inventions ? ;) 22:23:06 Hey Serg_Penguin! 22:23:13 Privet :) 22:23:19 hi ;) 22:23:20 How are you? 22:23:27 hmmm.... 22:23:35 Haven't seen you in a while 22:23:36 some good, some bad 22:23:59 serg! 22:24:27 i enlisted to a pre-hischool courses - math, phys, etc... 22:24:29 not yet, but for a while i wasnt able to l;og into my clss.net account 22:24:41 now i can :) 22:25:01 i have some minor changes but nothing worth a release 22:25:08 yet 22:25:46 do u know a computer 'Setun' - RU machine of base 3, not 2 ? 22:25:53 Heh. 22:25:55 Exotic. :) 22:26:05 How modern is it? 22:26:16 it has 2 stacks and its ASM was pretty like Forth 22:26:22 6070's 22:26:28 ancient 22:26:47 Heh, cool 22:27:04 So, why didn't they continue bulding trinary computers? 22:27:23 dunno 22:27:40 top secret then fresh, trash then rotten 22:27:58 only some geeks stored pieces of docs 22:30:06 Heh,. 22:30:23 Didn't want the yankees to steal your secret base-3 computers, eh? :P 22:30:39 http://www.google.com.ru/search?hl=ru&inlang=ru&ie=windows-1251&q=trinary+computer+russia&lr= 22:31:14 google in russian, yay. 22:31:25 I think I can live without that computer, to be honest. 22:31:36 Going to brush my teeth now, leaving in half an hour. 22:31:43 Experiments at the university :) 22:31:46 With school 22:32:00 what kind of experiments ? 22:32:46 Uhm.. 22:33:07 For example, radioation in a.. uhm.. very cold box, so you can see traces after the particles. 22:33:13 Supraconducting 22:33:14 etc. 22:33:42 'bubble camera' :)) 22:34:50 while talking to mur, i invented a falling-disk shutter for photo-camera ;)) 22:35:33 no springs, no release mechanism ;)) 23:12:18 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 23:20:15 --- quit: Herkamire ("bedtime") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/03.11.19