00:00:00 --- log: started forth/03.11.18 00:15:04 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.197) joined #forth 00:15:32 Dobryjj den'! 00:16:56 --- quit: ASau (Client Quit) 00:18:42 --- quit: onetom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:19:25 --- join: onetom (~tom@cab.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 03:04:52 --- quit: haroldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:10:14 --- join: haroldo (~haroldo@r200-40-213-240.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined #forth 03:39:37 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 04:52:42 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 06:20:20 --- join: madgarden (~bughead@216.94.153.178) joined #forth 06:47:51 --- quit: warpzero (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:48:44 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 06:53:50 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9548C2C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 07:18:01 --- join: z0d (~z0d@nilus-397.adsl.datanet.hu) joined #forth 07:18:15 good day 07:24:41 --- join: rO| (rO|@dialin-145-254-107-119.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 07:26:08 --- join: I440r (~mark4@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 07:53:20 z0d... is that like General z0d, the evil guy from Superman 2? 07:54:01 nor really. 07:54:22 Darn. 07:54:45 http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/our-games/past/z.htm 07:55:47 though I can be evil at any time... :-> 08:08:45 --- quit: rO| ("thx + bye") 08:18:55 z0d, hi! are you new in here ? 08:19:00 i dont recognize that nick :) 08:20:04 and that url doesnt seem to be working very well... like the server isnt responding 08:20:57 I440r: yes, I'm new. 08:21:39 the URL works for me(TM) 08:24:48 lol 08:24:58 so do you code forth ? 08:25:04 not that thats a pre-requisite :) 08:27:05 I want to learn a bit of Forth 08:27:19 cool. you run linux ??? on an x86 box ??? :) 08:27:40 zigackly 08:28:25 well you can check out isforth.clss.net 08:28:26 :) 08:28:36 do you code x86 asm ? 08:28:44 if you work for a games compay you prolly do 08:29:06 tho these days everyone uses object obfuscated vb for games 08:29:06 I haven't done Assembly in ages 08:29:25 Heh. "object obfuscated vb" 08:29:33 why do you think I work for a games company? :-> 08:29:56 you gave a url for the bitmap brothers. figured thats wher you worked :) 08:30:21 are they located in manchester ? 08:30:27 dunno. 08:30:38 my nick was inspired by the BB game Z 08:30:49 oooh heh 08:32:11 no london 08:32:25 i applied for a job at a games company in manchester years ago - never go the job hhe 08:33:07 How many games use Forth? 08:33:34 Haven't heard of much. Only thing that comes to mind is "MUF" for MUDs. 08:33:35 there's tt.fs :-) 08:34:26 this is the original zod from Z: http://zzone.lewe.com/images/poster/zodsnow.jpg 08:35:19 No no no... THIS is the original Zod: http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/stamp3.jpg 08:35:21 ;) 08:36:02 http://generalzod.net/ 08:36:50 Heh! 08:39:51 tt.fs? 08:46:08 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 08:46:15 madgarden: as light excercise, try to make it a colorized tetris ;) 08:59:46 mmmmm tetris. I think I'll have to make a tetris someday for my system 09:03:52 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 09:08:09 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9548B29.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:12:29 Herkamire: or make it compatible w tt.fs ;p~~ 09:12:51 tt.fs is pure ANS 09:13:12 Why can't I get tt.fs to work under gforth... 09:13:24 works fine for me. 09:15:17 :) my forth is about as far from ANS as anything 09:15:17 brb 09:15:17 --- quit: Herkamire ("restarting") 09:15:18 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:17:47 OK, it works if I INCLUDE instead of copy/pasting it into the console. :) 10:09:10 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:19:44 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 10:47:18 --- join: Robert_ (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 10:49:28 --- quit: Robert (Nick collision from services.) 10:49:44 --- nick: Robert_ -> Robert 11:09:18 what is 'CVT'? 11:10:27 The Center for the Victims of Torture? 11:10:30 --- join: Robert_ (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 11:10:51 Continuously Variable Transmission? 11:11:35 Certified Veterinary Technician? 11:16:37 --- join: Robert__ (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 11:17:04 --- quit: Robert (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:18:02 --- quit: Robert_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:28:51 --- quit: segher (Client Quit) 11:40:08 --- join: soph2 (sophist@d067.wildapache.net) joined #forth 11:42:15 --- nick: soph2 -> sophist 11:47:37 --- join: soph2 (sophist@d087.wildapache.net) joined #forth 11:53:10 --- join: s-phist (sophist@d097.wildapache.net) joined #forth 11:58:10 --- quit: sophist (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:59:27 --- quit: soph2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:02:31 --- nick: Robert__ -> Robert 12:23:33 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 12:32:47 --- join: schihei (~schihei@p5085DBC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:44:21 --- quit: s-phist (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:48:26 --- quit: Robert ("brb") 12:55:36 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 13:02:39 --- quit: Robert (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:02:39 --- quit: schihei (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:06:09 --- join: schihei (~schihei@p5085DBC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 13:11:00 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 13:42:57 --- quit: madgarden ("*poof*") 14:09:49 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 14:38:50 --- quit: Robert ("brb, irssi update") 14:45:56 --- quit: warpzero (Excess Flood) 14:46:41 --- join: warpzero (~warpzero@dsl.142.mt.onewest.net) joined #forth 14:47:15 --- join: Robert (~snofs@c-255a71d5.17-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #forth 15:08:58 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:18:15 --- quit: haroldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:22:04 --- join: haroldo (~haroldo@r200-40-167-28.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined #forth 15:41:47 hello all 15:41:49 hello all 15:41:53 hi arke :) 15:42:02 whats up Herky? 15:43:09 I'm actually working on my forth a bit :) 15:43:47 I just got it to act much like an interactive forth if you use enter (and it still acts like an editor if you use space) 15:45:30 :) 16:13:25 does anybody know how to download IRC? 16:16:12 what? 16:16:24 you mean logs? clients? 16:21:14 no, i mean IRC. 16:21:20 how do u download it 16:22:12 irc is a protocol. what are you talking about? 16:27:03 what is a protocol? 16:27:10 16:27:13 :) 16:30:34 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@ppp-66-124-254-137.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 16:31:34 IRC is a protocol: internet relay chat 16:45:15 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3576567.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 16:48:18 --- join: I440r (~mark4@12-58.lctv-a5.cablelynx.com) joined #forth 17:01:20 protocol (noun): A set of formal rules describing how to transmit data, especially across a {network}. 17:01:42 i know lol 17:01:49 i was being a n00b 17:27:10 arke: well, then what do you mean then? 17:27:49 what do you want to download? a transcript of this chatroom? software to communicate via irc? 17:28:05 nothinfg 17:28:08 i was being silly 18:14:56 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 18:14:56 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 18:15:11 Howdy 18:15:34 hey kc5tja 18:15:38 know perl? 18:15:42 I used to. 18:15:47 ack 18:15:49 lol 18:16:04 im trying to write a fortune-like thing that automatically updates itself using bash.org 18:16:15 called qdb :) 18:16:20 maybe i shouldnt use perl, but something else 18:16:40 but i gotta wget the page, then strip the html, then parse it, then ... then ... then... 18:17:31 I'd use something like Lynx, Links, or w3m to acquire the page and save it to a temporary file instead of hand-parsing/hand-stripping the HTML. 18:17:52 w3m? 18:17:56 I know w3m serves this purpose well, as that's what it was originally designed for. 18:18:32 that would be great 18:18:46 it preserves
-> \n ? 18:18:49 lynx -force_html -dump file.html 18:20:21 Yes, it would have to. 18:20:33 w3m was intended to be used in conjunction with less or some other text utility on the command-line. 18:20:42 hey whats that program that duplicates stdin to stdout and a file? 18:20:51 tee 18:20:55 thanks 18:27:33 Is the ( comment supposed to parse until either a ) or a \n , or just a ) ? 18:27:47 ) 18:27:48 only 18:27:50 (iirc) 18:27:55 (as well as imho) 18:28:17 So, it can be used as a multi-line block comment. 18:28:56 yeep 18:29:19 OK cool. 18:29:57 Of course, it depends on the Forth, but in general, it's supposed to parse to the next ). 18:31:48 ok, w3m -dump works perfect 18:32:03 OK, I had mine parsing to ) or \n 18:32:10 now i need to parse it and create qdb files from it 18:32:15 But I see that \ is supposed to parse to \n 18:32:38 kc5tja: CSH :) 18:41:08 --- quit: arke (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:42:45 See what happens when you use csh? 18:43:00 --- join: arke (~chris@ca-cmrilo-cuda1-c3b-66.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 18:53:32 I thought CSH universally Considered Harmful :-) 18:58:44 csh is good. 18:58:47 so says I 18:59:45 I still think a Forthy shell would be fun. 18:59:56 888naah 19:03:28 Well, poo! 19:04:05 * kc5tja prefers REXX for a command interpreter still. :) 19:05:12 I do remember REXX being fun on the Amiga... used it on our CNET BBS. 19:05:16 AREXX 19:08:16 * kc5tja nods 19:09:01 Even used for simple shell scripting, I think it's more powerful than even Bash script. And if Bash is powerful enough to write a whole source code management tool (larch), then you just know Rexx also has to be quite powerful. :) 19:28:26 you can do anything in bash, but nobody would want to maintain it 19:31:03 You can do anything in bash provided you have the appropriate shell utilities to back you up. 19:31:36 REXX can depend on shell utilities, but also in shared library functions, and even other already-running programs (provided they expose a REXX-compatible interprocess communications channel) 19:33:43 theres a bash forh 19:33:45 forth* 19:33:46 lol 19:34:26 Written with the aid of utilities themselves written in C. :) 19:35:05 lol 19:35:07 lol 19:35:07 lol 19:35:14 i could write a csh forth, im sure 19:38:29 whadda ya think? :) 19:40:03 I would not think it a viable project, personally. 19:40:21 It's **barely** possible in Bash, and Bash is already well known to be overwhelmingly more powerful than csh. 19:59:26 lol 19:59:30 csh allows alot 19:59:42 csh has array support 19:59:45 which bash doesnt, iir 19:59:47 iirc* 20:09:24 its possible 20:09:27 really 20:09:28 it is 20:09:30 however, 20:09:33 it would be hell 20:13:25 And the gain would be questionable. 20:23:00 --- log: ended forth/03.11.18