00:00:00 --- log: started forth/03.10.28 00:27:30 --- join: lupin_sansei (~matthew@210.11.137.196) joined #forth 00:28:50 --- quit: lupin_sansei ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 00:39:06 --- quit: arke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:05:58 --- join: rO| (~rO|@pD9E59D91.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:09:52 --- join: rO|_ (~rO|@pD9E59F44.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:27:42 --- quit: rO| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:55:05 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:57:05 --- join: TreyB (~trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 02:03:33 --- nick: rO|_ -> rO| 02:15:21 --- quit: oooo (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02:15:21 --- quit: mmanning (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02:15:21 --- quit: MysticOne (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02:15:21 --- quit: ianP (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02:15:42 --- join: oooo (o@virgo.bombsquad.org) joined #forth 02:15:42 --- join: MysticOne (mysticone@mysticone.usercloak.freenode) joined #forth 02:15:42 --- join: ianP (ian@inpuj.net) joined #forth 02:15:42 --- join: mmanning (~mmanning@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 07:35:44 --- quit: mmanning (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:35:45 --- quit: oooo (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:35:45 --- quit: ianP (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:35:45 --- quit: MysticOne (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:35:45 --- quit: melinda (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07:36:05 --- join: melinda (melinda@melinda.usercloak.freenode) joined #forth 07:36:05 --- join: oooo (o@virgo.bombsquad.org) joined #forth 07:36:05 --- join: MysticOne (mysticone@mysticone.usercloak.freenode) joined #forth 07:36:05 --- join: ianP (ian@inpuj.net) joined #forth 07:36:05 --- join: mmanning (~mmanning@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 07:37:02 --- join: yasam (~sam@210-54-206-235.dialup.xtra.co.nz) joined #forth 07:41:49 what forths are the mac users here using? 07:48:25 gforth! 07:48:28 (barely) 07:48:30 because I'm a newbie 07:57:45 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 07:58:19 I'm BAAaack 07:58:27 * MysticOne hides 08:15:50 --- quit: rO| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:17:28 --- join: schihei (~schihei@pD9E5C863.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 08:42:21 --- quit: yasam ("dumdumdumdum") 09:00:16 --- quit: mmanning (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:39:22 --- join: tathi (~josh@pcp02123722pcs.milfrd01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:13:28 ni 11:21:41 --- join: mmanning (~mmanning@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #forth 11:22:19 * MysticOne yawns 11:30:32 --- quit: tathi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:07:44 --- join: rO| (rO|@pD9E59C05.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:07:56 re herkamire 12:08:41 just a hi, bit in a hurry 12:30:07 hi rO| :) 13:51:05 --- quit: schihei (Client Quit) 14:04:02 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.200) joined #forth 14:06:41 Good evening! 14:06:54 Dobryj noczer! 14:09:58 hi ASau 14:10:50 Does you have anything new? 14:11:23 Any news? 14:15:53 not I, I just got back from vacation last night 14:16:45 Oh! It's time to start new projects? new life? 14:17:30 I used to find some quite interesting things during vacation. 14:19:04 hi ASau 14:19:08 and herke 14:19:12 and other 14:19:21 privet alekseij 14:19:48 Privet, mur! 14:20:14 hi mur :) 14:21:04 * mur has idea 14:21:57 Hm? What idea? 14:23:17 well program which has multiple modules 14:23:37 or parts, so you dont have to update the whole core 14:23:37 coudl output some digit/serailíal 14:23:51 serial,a nd then you coudl download new parts from website anywhere 14:24:02 e.g. 153523523AK4 14:24:18 then the website program woudl show what modules have been upgraded and you could download them if you wish 14:24:32 of course there could be autoupgrade function too 14:24:42 but that serial coudl be used to transfer the data to server easily 14:26:48 That's good idea. It's flying around me in another incarnation. 14:27:35 I find it as simple method to distinguish versions of words or set of words. 14:27:52 Just by md5 or another hash sum. 14:28:06 well you coudl add new data to the serial 14:28:11 like additional modules info :) 14:28:32 NNNN core version 14:28:43 Yes, once you produce such a hash number, you can use it for ever. 14:28:44 XXNN XX module code, NN version code 14:29:25 e.g. 1000MP02xx00xy01 14:29:37 This looks as a kind of underlying CVS protocol. 14:29:59 then when you run out of module concept you can add hash and continue with new scheme :) 14:30:12 like 492359352330-3252 14:31:20 hmm 14:31:27 perhaps you coudl add locationcode to that 14:31:38 nah 14:31:42 that is too private 14:32:09 then you could name files' 14:32:39 program-upgrade-241511233536.bar 14:32:48 update 14:33:02 I had an idea to hash forth blocks. 14:33:09 hmm? 14:33:23 hashtables are nice 14:33:38 damn 14:33:45 2 emails to be replied :(( 14:33:56 For I could insert and shift all positions having no problems with LOAD 14:35:34 ;) My work is to reply on letters. But I don't reply on every one, 'cause I had to work! 14:37:25 BTW, I've found one pretty wonderful solution. 14:37:41 Just look! 14:37:57 ( Here starts ANS'94 code... ) 14:38:01 : TIMES 14:38:07 POSTPONE >R 14:38:15 POSTPONE BEGIN 14:38:20 POSTPONE R> 14:38:26 POSTPONE ?DUP 14:38:32 POSTPONE WHILE 14:38:32 --- join: rO|_ (rO|@pD9E59C05.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 14:38:42 POSTPONE 1- 14:38:51 POSTPONE >R 14:38:55 ; IMMEDIATE 14:39:06 Now you can write: 14:39:32 : TEST 10 TIMES ." La " REPEAT ; 14:43:34 --- quit: rO| (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:44:26 --- nick: rO|_ -> rO| 14:51:02 --- quit: ASau () 15:08:15 err that was hit and run. he didnt gimme a chance to respond lol 15:08:41 thats HORRIBLE ans code 15:09:45 thats an abuse of "postpone" 15:49:52 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-160-165-100.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 16:49:26 --- quit: slava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:22:09 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 17:22:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 18:10:13 --- join: tgunr (~davec@A17-205-109-66.apple.com) joined #forth 19:03:06 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:47:58 * kc5tja sighs -- I really must find the time to ride my bike into work. 19:48:09 It'll give me some much needed exercise. 19:48:19 * kc5tja is gaining weight like I've never done before. 19:48:25 Or at least, it feels like it. 20:10:48 kc5tja: how often do you do aikido? 20:11:19 I haven't been going recently. 20:11:26 I just haven't had any time what-so-ever. 20:11:29 If I'm not in school, I'm at work. 20:11:35 (In-N-Out Burger) 20:43:20 ahh, collage life ;) 20:45:57 Yes. 20:55:09 It is, indeed, most annoying. 20:55:23 In many respects, I wish I didn't have college. 21:02:21 Herkamire: Speaking of which, I haven't seen you here lately either. Where've you been? :) 21:03:10 vacation. 21:03:46 from MA to WA 21:03:54 Must be nice. :) 21:04:06 then down to Los Angeles 21:04:19 it was a very nice month 21:04:36 Gee, just a few hours south, and we could have met. 21:04:51 * kc5tja lives in San Diego. 21:18:02 :) 21:35:15 that would have been cool 21:35:27 I'll let you know next time I'm in southern CA 21:35:50 * kc5tja nods 21:36:37 * kc5tja fiddling with my staff again, playing with the concepts behind the Constantinesco torque converter. 21:37:22 There must be a way to realize this kind of torque converter without the use of one-way clutches. 21:38:12 A planetary gear set used as a transmission (such as that used in the Toyota Prius), by far, comes the closest I've seen to this concept. 21:38:43 The only problem with it is it requires some means of variably coupling energy from the sun gear to the ring gear. 21:39:11 The Prius' solution requires the use of a computer, plus two dual-purpose motor/generators. 21:39:25 (which is the ideal transmission for an electric hybrid vehicle) 21:39:46 But I'm looking more for a mechanical-only solution, which is why the Constantinesco transmission is intruiging to me. 21:42:06 I'm probably not making too much sense. 21:43:27 --- join: jma (jma@dialup-67.31.180.238.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) joined #forth 21:48:04 you want reverse too? 21:57:20 that longhorn crap sure is ugly 21:57:26 you still want to use constantinesco on pedal power? 22:00:38 Not for my personal application. 22:00:50 Herkamire: OR something like it, ideally. 22:01:15 s/OR/Or/ 22:01:30 ianP: Is it worse than XP? 22:07:32 --- quit: Herkamire ("goodnight") 22:13:43 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 22:13:53 kc5tja - oh god yes 22:14:14 http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=14694&category=main 22:14:29 http://www.neowin.net/staff/creamhackered/longhornbuild4051/desktop.jpg 22:14:34 such blatant inutility 22:14:38 waste of space 22:15:04 theyre supposedly doing some crazy stuff, to be slating the release of this stuff so far agead 22:15:43 Are they dispensing with overlapping windows, and returning to panes? 22:16:00 I like panes, but the way they were implemented in Windows 1.0 wasn't exactly optimal. :) 22:16:35 Nope -- next picture answered my question. 22:16:43 Yeah, the titlebar alone is like 128 pixels tall. That's insane. 22:20:34 Thank goodness I use Linux. Sheesh. 22:20:45 That is the single most ugly operating system I've ever seen in my life. 22:21:55 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~z@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 22:23:34 hi ! 22:23:52 i just buyed a CD full of ZX Spectrun stuff ;)) 22:24:11 and 2 CD of Amiga, but did not test yet 22:34:32 Hello 22:34:41 brb 22:40:10 back 22:47:04 hi 22:47:21 i'm eager for Forth on ZX ;)) 22:51:03 * kc5tja nods 22:51:14 I'm eager to just make some additional income. :/ 22:51:39 Preferably with a whole lot less work than what I'm putting forth in In-N-Out Burgers. 23:36:02 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/03.10.28