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01:01:34 <kc5tja> Bedtime for me.
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07:37:25 <Robert> Hey
07:37:40 <mur> robert robust
07:39:24 <Robert> :)
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09:05:26 <gilbertdeb> \
09:05:41 <mur>  /
09:06:10 <gilbertdeb> terve mur
09:06:22 <yasam> |
09:06:39 <mur> terve gilpertti
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09:09:47 <yasam> tenakotou
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09:25:34 <gilbertdeb> yasam, I have a severely limited vocabulary :)
09:27:16 <yasam> it means 'hello all' but it is not your vocabulary thats lacking its in Maori
09:28:28 <gilbertdeb> how do you use forth?
09:30:04 <yasam> type in words which are then interpreted ;)
09:30:34 <gilbertdeb> beyond that? :)
09:35:09 <yasam> like I use a pencil; for sketching out and developing any crazy ideas that pop into my head
09:35:32 <yasam> for whatever, I dont know what else to say :(
09:36:17 <yasam> at the moment, I need cross platform graphicsd words to use it in any major capacity
09:40:05 <gilbertdeb> how did you come upon forth?
09:40:55 <yasam> I was evaluating all the free programming environments for the macintosh
09:43:11 <gilbertdeb> ah!
09:43:14 <gilbertdeb> that'd do it :)
09:43:23 <gilbertdeb> did you encounter prograph as well?
09:45:13 <yasam> I only gave prograph a quick look, it was a graphical language right/
09:45:17 <yasam> ?
09:45:40 <gilbertdeb> yes.
09:46:07 <gilbertdeb> not necessarily for creating graphics though :)
09:46:32 <yasam> I think I had some trouble getting it working
09:49:04 <yasam> a quick find reveals, I stil have it though
09:52:36 <yasam> a graphical DAG forth might be interesting, if it could be implemented simly and the source manipulation wasnt too clumsy
10:12:17 <yasam> gilbertdeb: are you using forth on Mac OS X?
10:13:56 <gilbertdeb> No, I don't have a mac.
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13:17:48 <rO|> hello everybody
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13:50:51 <rO|> welcome augur
13:51:21 <augur> danke
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13:54:31 <thin> anybody want to explain the forth ircbot idea?  what kind of features do you expect?
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16:25:24 <arke> hello all, im back :)
16:27:41 <kc5tja> re
16:27:57 * kc5tja just picked up a beacon from the very southernmost tip of Mexico.
16:29:36 <arke> hrm?
16:30:22 <kc5tja> xe1srf has a beacon transmitting on the 10m band (28187.4kHz)
16:30:30 <kc5tja> Here's his personal information:
16:30:40 <kc5tja> FERNANDEZ MAS RODRIGO
16:30:40 <kc5tja>  CALZ. M?XICO XOCHIMILCO #101, SN. LORENZO HUIPULCO 14370
16:30:40 <kc5tja>  M?XICO DF 
16:30:40 <kc5tja>  MEXICO 
16:30:47 <kc5tja> :)
16:31:01 <kc5tja> That's quite a distance from where I live.
16:31:30 <kc5tja> Even if Mexico is just 30 minutes away from me, he's so far away that it'd take a 6 hour plane trip to get to.  :)
16:31:41 <kc5tja> 1,300 miles by my estimate.
16:33:44 <arke> how long does it take to transmit info from you to him?
16:34:07 <kc5tja> Let me do the math.  Just a second...
16:35:11 <kc5tja> By the time his signal reaches my antenna, it is 7ms old.
16:35:12 <kc5tja> :)
16:36:45 <arke> wow
16:36:54 <arke> i imagines it to be much longer
16:37:01 <arke> what exactly is ham radio, how does it work, etc.
16:37:25 <kc5tja> Ham radio is a licensed service (I have a Federal license to transmit on the ham bands).
16:38:06 <kc5tja> We just ragchew (kind of like what CB was supposed to be), we hold formal nets for various interests, which are basically on-air conducted meetings, etc.
16:38:21 <arke> fun :)
16:38:29 <kc5tja> There are a variety of modes of communications too: AM, CW, SSB, FM, PSK31, AFSK, RTTY, PacTOR, etc.
16:38:34 <kc5tja> Not restricted to just voice.
16:38:43 <arke> :)
16:38:50 <kc5tja> We can even send images over the air through a variety of image modes (SSTV, ATV, D-SSTV, etc)
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16:49:22 <kc5tja> Wow.  A beacon to LU4FHH on 10m.  At this time of day.  That's impressive.  :D
16:49:30 <kc5tja> That's Lithuania!
16:49:33 <kc5tja> (I think!)
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18:40:46 <arke> heu
18:40:48 <arke> hey
18:41:43 <kc5tja> re
18:41:58 <kc5tja> Just after you left, I heard a beacon from Lithuania.  :D
18:44:59 <arke> :D
18:45:25 <arke> i thought about the US totalitarian thing a little more
18:45:32 <arke> i think youre completely right
18:46:36 * kc5tja doesn't want to get political here.  It's a hot topic that can upset a lot of people.
18:46:54 <arke> tr00
18:47:09 * arke considers creating #politics
18:47:30 <arke> oh, nevermind, it already exists 
18:47:40 <kc5tja> :)
18:47:49 <arke> but, theres nobody there
18:48:37 * kc5tja isn't much interested at the moment, if you're inviting me to discuss politics.  :)
18:48:45 <arke> naah
18:48:51 <kc5tja> I'm very tired from school today.
18:48:54 <arke> i sometimes really get into the mood tho
18:49:26 * kc5tja nods
18:49:43 <arke> heh
18:49:45 <arke> :)
18:50:08 <arke> i should create a webcomic targeted at programmers :)
18:50:20 <kc5tja> GPF already exists.  :)
18:50:40 <arke> link?
18:51:21 <kc5tja> http://www.gpf-comics.com
18:52:02 <arke> :) thanks
18:56:38 * arke reads Penny Arcade and GPF at the same time
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19:27:29 <gilbertdeb> hi lo
19:27:33 <kc5tja> re
19:27:57 <gilbertdeb> forth ircbot ?
19:28:04 <kc5tja> Not my idea.
19:32:37 <gilbertdeb> an ircbot should be like the old squeak bot.
19:32:44 <gilbertdeb> I forget what it was called though.
19:33:17 <kc5tja> Explain
19:33:42 <gilbertdeb> it was an squeakopaedia
19:33:55 <gilbertdeb> you queried it for most things squeak related and it'd produce them.
19:34:18 <gilbertdeb> definitions, url's, books online, small parsable squeak strings.
19:40:17 <gilbertdeb> I believe herkamire had a forthbot that could parse forth strings.
19:40:34 <gilbertdeb> combine that with a bot a forthcyclopaedia and voila!
19:41:02 <gilbertdeb> or ... a forthquizer :)
19:41:51 <kc5tja> hmm
19:46:26 <gilbertdeb> the squeak bot is called oi btw.
19:46:31 <gilbertdeb> I think it can be /msged
19:47:29 <gilbertdeb> nope. scratch that.
19:48:38 <kc5tja> oi?
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19:48:40 <kc5tja> Why oi?
19:50:37 <gilbertdeb> I dunno why they call it oi.
19:50:39 <gilbertdeb> lemme ask.
19:51:04 <gilbertdeb> <gilbertdeb> oi, oi
19:51:04 <gilbertdeb> <oi> Jedi Knight Oi says SQUEAK!
20:30:49 <gilbertdeb> hey arke you seem to have stabilized!
20:30:51 <gilbertdeb> what did you fix?
20:31:56 <kc5tja> Heh -- stabilized.
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21:03:53 <kc5tja> clear
21:03:54 <kc5tja> err
21:04:02 <kc5tja> It helps to add the slash.  :)
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21:10:28 <arke> ay!!
21:10:34 <arke> GPF is funny :)
21:10:52 <kc5tja> I lost interest in it towards the end, but overall, I agree.
21:10:54 <kc5tja> It's a good strip.
21:11:12 <arke> lost interest? :P
21:11:21 <arke> i have never lost interest in a comic... ever
21:11:38 <arke> not megatokyo, not 8bit, not penny arcade, not sabrina, not nimby
21:14:45 <arke> :)
21:14:57 <kc5tja> I do.
21:15:02 <kc5tja> I haven't read a webcomic in a while.
21:15:14 <kc5tja> I should catch up on Dilbert, Sluggy Freelance, and especially Schlock Mercenary.
21:16:00 <arke> ok, i lied --- i _did_ read dilbert for a while, but then I stopped because it started getting boring and filling up my mailbox
21:19:08 <gilbertdeb> arke, you lie 2 mths to december?
21:19:16 <gilbertdeb> santa's gonna check his list you know?
21:19:26 <gilbertdeb> especially this close to that day.
21:20:11 <gilbertdeb> that fancy new shrinkwrapped forth you were expecting from forth.com ? he's not gonna get it.
21:23:58 <arke> *gasp*
21:24:02 <arke> but ... but ...
21:24:07 * arke cries his heart out
21:24:20 <arke> im not gonna get a shiny new forth ... *wimper*
21:24:25 <arke> *sniff*
21:24:33 <gilbertdeb> awww c'mon get yourself together man!
21:24:48 <gilbertdeb> I'll put in a word for you.
21:24:59 <gilbertdeb> especially since you're now stable :)
21:25:02 <gilbertdeb> Good word.
21:25:47 <arke> really?
21:25:50 <arke> you would do that for me?
21:25:52 <arke> yay!
21:26:36 <gilbertdeb> yes yes. I can't stand to see people leak from the eyes.
21:26:40 <gilbertdeb> we martians 
21:26:42 <gilbertdeb> oops.
21:26:52 <gilbertdeb> Ummm, we earthlings don't like that much.
21:27:04 <arke> what forth do you think ill be getting? :)
21:27:51 <gilbertdeb> if you don't write an arkeForth?
21:29:29 <arke> oh, i will
21:29:32 <arke> but
21:29:44 <gilbertdeb> but?
21:29:51 <arke> i want my own pretty full-o-nice-features COTS Forth
21:30:08 <gilbertdeb> how does a nice shrinkwrapped forth from forth.com sound?
21:34:13 * gilbertdeb yawns.
21:34:26 <gilbertdeb> Santa's Oversized helper is tired.
21:40:45 <kc5tja> Heh
21:40:53 <kc5tja> COTS?
21:41:04 <kc5tja> Ooh. Commercial Off The Shelf
21:41:18 <gilbertdeb> heheh.
21:41:21 <gilbertdeb> pretty good.
21:41:29 <gilbertdeb> I was about to make some BS up.
21:41:54 <gilbertdeb> Hey if CM is busy why not invite beth rather?
21:42:15 <gilbertdeb> she can't be THAT busy? ;)
21:43:09 <gilbertdeb> given how active she is on clf, I bet she'll be flattered by the offer :)
21:43:27 <arke> beth?
21:43:36 <gilbertdeb> forth.com big mama
21:45:17 <arke> i should look more at the names of the people who post on clf...
21:45:52 <arke> whos boojum?
21:45:59 <gilbertdeb> dunno.
21:46:06 <gilbertdeb> beth rather == ER
21:46:08 <arke> it was signed chuck
21:46:25 <gilbertdeb> chuck's last irc nick was chipchuck
21:46:42 <arke> :)
21:50:24 <gilbertdeb> I think He should have been forth, but I suppose that would have been rather confusing.
21:50:36 <gilbertdeb> I am Forth :D
21:53:08 <arke> :)
21:58:07 <arke> hehe
21:58:11 <arke> code-aholics anonymous
21:59:02 <kc5tja> heh
22:04:47 <gilbertdeb> I keep up with my comics too.
22:04:53 <gilbertdeb> family guy, daria, pink panther ...
22:10:57 <kc5tja> i have no life -- I am playing with the program tempest_for_eliza.
22:10:58 <kc5tja> :)
22:11:59 <gilbertdeb> I'm being walloped by gnuchess yet again.
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22:20:07 <Serg_Penguin> hi, i have an opinion on ircbot
22:20:23 <Serg_Penguin> i want this function: 
22:20:54 <Serg_Penguin> _  /back -l 17
22:21:02 <Serg_Penguin> or /back -t 10
22:21:15 <Serg_Penguin> prints what happened before i joined
22:21:24 <Serg_Penguin> last L lines or T minutes
22:23:09 <gilbertdeb> :)
22:23:24 <kc5tja> Actually, that is pretty useful.
22:23:47 <gilbertdeb> what about clog?
22:25:11 <kc5tja> Why not a compromise: I like clog, and it does a nice job.  So why not have the bot, upon request, dump the URL for today's current log page?  This way, the user can click on the link directly, and jump right to the logs, without consuming too much traffic bandwidth here.
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22:31:57 <gilbertdeb> :)
22:32:14 <gilbertdeb> are you getting this, Clog?
22:41:12 <Serg_Penguin> i mean, echo not into #forth, but /msg or /dcc to asking user
22:43:53 <kc5tja> Yes.
22:44:00 <kc5tja> That's what I mean too.
23:14:52 <kc5tja> Well, bedtime for me.
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