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04:39:54 <Speuler> 'morning
04:40:34 <Speuler> 'been adding a useful link to the wiki: http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?MostFrequentlyRequestedPages
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06:01:00 <Robert> hi
06:07:17 <I440r-wrk> hi brb
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06:07:27 <Stepan> hey
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06:18:35 <I440r-wrk> man i need a network like this at home!!!!
06:18:43 <I440r-wrk> 100k per second download heh
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06:34:12 <Robert> Wow
06:34:22 <Robert> I'll get a 10mbit line here soon :)
06:39:02 <XeF4> yay
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06:58:09 <mur> plom
06:58:20 <XeF4> piip
06:58:43 <mur> mitäs XeF4 
06:59:21 <XeF4> sitä ja tätä ja viihdoinkin toimivia kuulokkeita
06:59:38 <mur> :)
06:59:49 <mur> vaihdan maccia
06:59:50 <XeF4> vihdoinkin jopa
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07:01:31 <mur> re
07:03:18 <XeF4> stereo really is something after a year of headphones with only the left earphone working
07:03:23 <mur> :)
07:03:41 <mur> actaully i was amazed how good the mobile phone headphones sound
07:03:44 <mur> 6610's
07:04:13 <mur> (that's why i didn't got too much sleep last night - couldn't stop listening to everything interesting)
07:04:49 <mur> it doens't seem to consume too much battery either
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07:25:10 <mur> hey
07:46:25 <I440r-wrk> :)
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08:01:28 <fridge> I need some headphones
08:01:32 <fridge> portable ones
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12:45:19 <Robert> Hi
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13:40:54 <gilbertdeb> Hmmm. something's new right?
13:52:00 <Robert> Nope!
13:52:13 <Robert> Except I'm coding a little DOS Forth, so that I can base other things on it.
13:52:19 <gilbertdeb> cool!
13:52:25 <gilbertdeb> is it going to replace dos?
13:52:36 <Robert> Nah, I'm using DOS for the FS but not much else.
13:52:44 <Robert> So if you use blocks, it could replace DOS.
13:53:20 <gilbertdeb> I've started tinkering with a forth in C for plan9.
13:53:38 <gilbertdeb> plan9 uses utf by default so I'm planning on changing the syntax slightly.
13:53:50 <gilbertdeb> I learnt a new buzzword for forth :)
13:54:14 <gilbertdeb> instead of typing <= or IF, you can use the real mathematical symbols :D
13:54:28 <gilbertdeb> it won't be ready for a little while, as I have to learn plan9's C first .
13:58:47 <Robert> Heh.
13:58:54 <gilbertdeb> anyway...
13:59:00 <gilbertdeb> the new buzz phrase is ...
13:59:06 <gilbertdeb> can you guess?
13:59:18 * onetom cant
13:59:42 <Robert> "moo"?
13:59:58 <gilbertdeb> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22everything+is+a+verb%22+forth&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=D4o9rI.E2%40murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU&rnum=1
14:00:02 <gilbertdeb> everything is a verb :)
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14:01:53 <schickhj> Hello, I'm searching a good Forth system, which can be integrated for embedding computing. HHas somebody an idea?
14:02:14 <Robert> Write your own.
14:02:28 <Robert> That's probably the easiest if you're going to implement it on an embedded system.
14:02:37 <Robert> "Porting" a Forth isn't a very good idea, I think.
14:03:07 <Robert> You could of course follow a standard or something, if you need compatible code.
14:03:21 <schickhj> Well, I've found ficl, but I'm not sure ow good it is: http://ficl.sourceforge.net/index.html
14:03:40 <TreyB> It works well enough for the FreeBSD folks.
14:03:55 <TreyB> I've ported it to BeOS (with thread support) with very little effort.
14:04:34 <Robert> I wrote a VM and a Forth running inside it, for use on AVR microcontrollers. Maybe you could do something like that?
14:05:13 <gilbertdeb> so what do you guys think of the nice catch-all 'everything is a verb' buzzphrase for forth? :)
14:05:30 <gilbertdeb> so far we have: You, Forth, machine: simplicity.
14:05:40 <gilbertdeb> now we might have 'Everything is a verb'
14:05:58 <schickhj> TreyB: and how good is ficl in case of ANS Forth compatibility?
14:06:06 <gilbertdeb> in addition to 'BYOF' (bring your own forth) or 'WYOF' (write your own forth) or even just 'WO' (write one).
14:06:26 <gilbertdeb> schickhj do you need ANS compatibility?
14:07:16 <TreyB> schickhj: I can't help you much there.  I think they try pretty hard to stick to ANS, though.
14:08:31 <schickhj> schickhj: well I'm interessted in OFW, so I want to build a minimal OFW system - here I need a forth system, thats the reans of ANS compatibility
14:10:27 <schickhj> and perhaps I can use ficl for a solid basis
14:11:37 <schickhj> that why I asked if someone has experiences with ficl?
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15:27:14 <I440r> who is schickhj ?
15:27:42 <I440r> .
15:28:01 <I440r> erm my irc is screwing up! lol
15:28:15 <Robert> Heh :D
15:28:31 <Robert> He was in here asking about a good forth for embedded stuff.
15:28:42 <Robert> TreyB started talk about ficl
15:28:46 <Robert> talking
15:39:26 <I440r> well i messaged him and he didnt respond at all :P
15:41:35 <Robert> He's been idling for an hour and a half, probably sleeping or something ;)
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16:04:04 <I440r> hi grant
16:04:14 <I440r> yea robert i figured that :)
16:04:24 <I440r> oh is ficl his ?
16:04:34 <I440r> i cen never remember whose that is heh
16:05:09 <Grant_> Hey I440r
16:05:10 <Grant_> :)
16:07:03 <I440r> brb going home
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16:42:50 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
16:56:48 <Robert> Hi
16:56:51 <Robert> And good night :)
16:56:55 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Robert
16:56:58 <TheBlueWizard> bye rpc
16:57:02 <TheBlueWizard> ack!
16:57:07 <TheBlueWizard> bye Robert :)
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17:03:06 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Sonarman
17:03:21 <Sonarman> hi
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19:18:37 <TheBlueWizard> hiya gilbertdeb
19:19:06 <gilbertdeb> hI 
19:19:24 <gilbertdeb> I discovered a new slogan for forth...
19:19:29 <gilbertdeb> wanna hear it?
19:19:35 <TheBlueWizard> sure
19:20:05 <gilbertdeb> 'everything is a verb'.
19:20:35 <gilbertdeb> whadya think?
19:21:44 <TheBlueWizard> um.....I don't think so :)
19:21:57 <gilbertdeb> why not?
19:22:01 <TheBlueWizard> like, variables certainly aren't verbs :)
19:22:11 <gilbertdeb> ok ok,
19:22:17 <gilbertdeb> 'everything is a verb'. 
19:22:21 <gilbertdeb> except variables :D
19:22:48 <gilbertdeb> OR
19:23:06 <gilbertdeb> 'everything is a verb' <note see really long exception below>
19:23:08 <gilbertdeb> etc.
19:23:22 * TheBlueWizard pours some marbles under gilbertdeb's feet
19:24:01 <gilbertdeb> 'stands for a second'.
19:24:09 * TheBlueWizard watches gilbertdeb dancing like crazy then watches him falls down
19:24:13 * gilbertdeb rolls and falls in a small heap.
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19:26:12 <TheBlueWizard> :)
19:29:31 <gilbertdeb> so how would you complete the sentence: 'Everything is a ...' ?
19:31:24 <TheBlueWizard> that would be too simple a way to describe Forth this way
19:31:40 <TheBlueWizard> so I wouldn't fill in that blank
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19:32:06 <gilbertdeb> c'mon.
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19:32:16 <gilbertdeb> 'everything is an object' ...
19:32:20 <I440r> tbw!
19:32:29 <gilbertdeb> sayeth smalltalk.
19:32:31 <I440r> lol
19:32:33 <TheBlueWizard> hiya I440r!!! :)))
19:32:38 <I440r> 'nothing is an objecg'
19:32:50 <I440r> obhect even
19:32:55 <I440r> argh
19:33:00 <I440r> i cant type!
19:33:01 <TheBlueWizard> gilbertdeb: I still refuse to fill in a blank...too simplistic
19:33:29 <gilbertdeb> okay what about 10 sentences? :D
19:34:10 <TheBlueWizard> 10 sentences might do it...but I am not in the mood to write that up :)
19:35:10 <gilbertdeb> I440r I came upon this setence in c.l.f "everything is a verb"
19:35:34 <gilbertdeb> but Tbw wisely said 'variables are not verbs'.
19:37:31 <gilbertdeb> and I've been trying to get him to come up with a 'Everything is a ' ... sentence.
19:37:36 <gilbertdeb> can you think of one?
19:37:37 <I440r> heh
19:37:51 <I440r> everything is a lie!
19:38:00 <gilbertdeb> aha!
19:39:45 <TheBlueWizard> LMAO!!!   That's a good one...but, it is still too simplistic :P
19:40:07 <I440r> everything is everything :)
19:40:11 <I440r> thats an absolute truth
19:40:18 <I440r> but is still simplistic
19:40:28 <I440r> simplistic therefore cant be a disqualification
19:41:11 <I440r> aha!!!!!!!!1
19:41:17 <I440r> even MORE simplistic
19:41:17 <TheBlueWizard> yeah...but I think gilbertdeb wants a "brilliant" one liner that says everything about what Forth is
19:41:24 <I440r> everuthing IS
19:41:47 <I440r> erm thas what my motto is, "isforth because 'forth is;"
19:41:51 <I440r> its a hanging sentence
19:41:57 <I440r> forth 'is' what you want it to be
19:42:01 <I440r> its anything at all
19:42:10 <gilbertdeb> a Verb?
19:42:48 <gilbertdeb> :)
19:43:59 * TheBlueWizard pours more marbles on the floor :)
19:46:03 <I440r> brb
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19:50:29 <TheBlueWizard> hiya I440r again!!! :)))
19:50:38 <gilbertdeb> where are you getting the marbles from??
19:50:41 <I440r> :)
19:51:03 <gilbertdeb> do you know how TRICKY it is to stand still on marbles? 
19:52:07 <gilbertdeb> ah I quoted too eagerly:
19:52:36 <gilbertdeb> Forth has nouns, verbs and prepositions (at least) at the semantic
19:52:36 <gilbertdeb> level. Of course, at the underlying (virtual Forth) machine level
19:52:36 <gilbertdeb> everything is a verb --and a transitive one, at that-- because it
19:52:36 <gilbertdeb> performs an action.
19:53:04 <gilbertdeb> false 'Everything is a verb' alarm.
19:53:07 <gilbertdeb> sorry.
19:53:39 <gilbertdeb> I offer 3 of my fattest goat for compensation.
19:54:42 <gilbertdeb> and there already was a 'everything is a' in forth namely: 'everything is a word'.
19:54:43 <gilbertdeb> :)
19:55:46 * TheBlueWizard gladly takes those three fattest goats, place them on a big altar bowl, and machine guns them to death :)
19:57:06 <gilbertdeb> awww!
19:57:16 <gilbertdeb> you were meant to do it gently with a dagger!
19:57:31 <gilbertdeb> one clean slice from end to end around the neck!
19:57:36 <gilbertdeb> not destroy the offering!!!
19:57:56 <gilbertdeb> you'll have to wait 3 months for the remaining goats to fatten :|
19:59:20 <TheBlueWizard> I do sacrifices my way --- the EXTREMELY VIOLENT WAY!!! :)
19:59:30 <gilbertdeb> Hmmm.
19:59:42 * gilbertdeb backs away very slowly and quietly from tbw
20:00:00 * TheBlueWizard laughs rather darkly
20:07:31 <TheBlueWizard> gotta go...bye all
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22:14:42 <arke> y0
22:16:21 --- topic: set to 'Welcome to #forth ---- Talk to us about all of your ANS/Color/whatever Forth needs  .... and don't forget to say Moo.' by arke
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22:20:08 <arke> greets, Serg_Penguin
22:20:21 <Serg_Penguin> hi
22:20:45 <arke> check out the l33tz0r topic ... I made it! aren't you proud of me?
22:20:45 <arke> lol
22:21:15 <Serg_Penguin> heh ;)) it gotta be informative
22:21:23 <Serg_Penguin> i like cute links in topics
22:21:28 <arke>  it _is_ informative
22:21:54 <Serg_Penguin> it does not even say what da hell Forth is ;((
22:22:22 <Serg_Penguin> maybe, it just a microcar control util what's unable even to turn ;((
22:22:41 <Serg_Penguin> from viewpoint of one who lazily scrolls /list
22:22:47 --- topic: set to 'Welcome to #forth, the IRC channel for the programming language that originated as a prank ---- Forth forum: forum.forth.bespin.org ---- Talk to us about all of your ANS/Color/whatever Forth needs  .... and don't forget to say Moo.' by arke
22:27:26 <Serg_Penguin> i propose:
22:28:28 <Serg_Penguin>  - the most extensible and versatile progging language and philosophy. Visit http://forum.forth.bespin.org
22:28:40 <Serg_Penguin> coz #forth is already here
22:28:57 <Serg_Penguin> and nothing ex IRC chaneel may be listed by /list
22:30:30 <arke> huh?
22:31:49 <Serg_Penguin> what's unclear ?
22:32:56 <arke> <Serg_Penguin> coz #forth is already here
22:32:56 <arke> <Serg_Penguin> and nothing ex IRC chaneel may be listed by /list
22:33:17 <Serg_Penguin> #forth is already in a text given by /list
22:33:47 <Serg_Penguin> and why saying in /topic what it is IRC channel ?
22:33:55 <Serg_Penguin> what else it can be ?
22:34:22 --- topic: set to 'Welcome to the most versatile and extensible and l33t programming language (which incidentally started out as a prank) ---- Forth forum: forum.forth.bespin.org ---- Talk to us about all of your ANS/Color/whatever Forth needs  .... and don't forget to say Moo.' by arke
22:35:11 <Serg_Penguin> let it stay ;))
22:37:50 <arke> what now?
22:38:51 <Serg_Penguin> huh, the one by kc5tja was definitely better, despite i can't recall it
22:39:28 <Serg_Penguin> and the one by thin, w/ ultratech.com link, was ze best ;))
22:39:40 <arke> yeah. i wonder who changed it
22:39:52 <arke> --> You are now talking on #forth
22:39:52 <arke> --- Topic for #forth is MOO
22:39:52 <arke> --- Topic for #forth set by BATHMAN at Tue Sep 16 12:01:27
22:46:02 * Serg_Penguin is investigating Java 4 mobile phones
22:46:18 * Serg_Penguin is planning to buy Samsung M50
22:46:34 * arke is writing a forth for an IRC bot ....
22:48:04 <Serg_Penguin> ;))
22:50:28 <arke> in PYTHON!!!
22:50:29 <arke> and
22:50:33 <arke> i know nothing about python
22:50:34 <arke> :)
22:50:40 <arke> hm
22:50:50 <arke> can i do character arithmatic in python?
22:55:06 <Serg_Penguin> hell dog knows
22:55:21 <Serg_Penguin> better write BOT IN FORTH than FORTH IN BOT ;))
22:55:53 <arke> not my choice ... not my project
22:58:28 * arke is away: sl33p
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