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03:54:57 <Speuler> 'morning
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04:56:54 <snow_richard> morning folks
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05:02:30 <bashfire> moin speuler, schon wach? ;-)
05:02:45 <Speuler> *augenreib*
05:03:30 <bashfire> http://www.forthfreak.net/wiki/index.cgi?rOI
05:03:47 <Speuler> ok
05:03:59 <Speuler> wollt gerade sagen "tag Roi' :)
05:04:29 <Speuler> pd9e59d7c.dip.t-dialin.net - - [11/Sep/2003:13:54:24 +0200] "GET /wiki/index.cgi?action=edit&page_id=rOIComments  :)
05:05:26 <bashfire> i wasn't sure if that kind of 'tone' is alright for you.. so it is?
05:05:54 <bashfire> better you grumble b4 than after..
05:07:54 <Speuler> yeah, plenty of space
05:08:12 <Speuler> tone is fine. if someone feels offended, he can edit it :)
05:08:19 <Speuler> i'm not into form
05:08:34 <Speuler> i prefer content
05:08:35 <bashfire> glad to hear :-)
05:09:04 <bashfire> maybe i'll add some 'content' also ;-)
05:09:25 <Speuler> if you would like to, please, by all means
05:10:39 <Speuler> you've been exploring the wiki quite a lot this morning :)
05:10:52 <Speuler> know it better than me by now, probably
05:11:00 <Speuler> *g*
05:14:13 <bashfire> 144 pages are quite alot and i've already read 12 of them..
05:15:14 <Speuler> some people, expecially crc, did a fine job to add content
05:16:28 <bashfire> ack
05:28:28 <Speuler> bashfire, is your nick anyhow related to the bash shell ?
05:41:45 <bashfire> yo ;-)
05:43:46 <bashfire> i find nicks used as memos *useful*.
05:43:49 <Speuler> you're a bash freak ?
05:45:31 <bashfire> compared to you, i'm not a freak ;-)
05:45:54 <Speuler> you're aware of bashforth ?
05:47:13 <bashfire> yes
05:47:18 <Speuler> ok
05:50:12 <bashfire> it's a good idea
05:52:01 <bashfire> it's more useful than a lot would think
05:57:02 <Speuler> i get more hits on the source than i did expect when putting was putting it on the net
05:57:15 <Speuler> hmm
05:57:25 * Speuler needs coffee mee seems
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06:30:52 <bashfire> re Herkamire
06:34:59 <bashfire> Speuler: i would like to put some questions on the wiki. some which i don't expect to be answered soon or full on IRC. or which could be topic-starters.. (second edition of my ForthFAQWiki coming soon, until then)
06:36:00 <Herkamire> hi bashfire :)
06:36:15 <bashfire> howdy :)
06:36:35 <Herkamire> bashfire: were you in this channel before under a different nick?
06:36:59 <Speuler> bashfire, sure
06:37:18 <bashfire> Herkamire: rO| here
06:37:26 <Speuler> hi herk
06:38:20 <bashfire> Herkamire: to draw the line to ForthFAQWiki, deluxe
06:40:20 <bashfire> but usemod was quick+spartanic lol
06:41:23 <bashfire> i want xml to get it fully (and easy) into the workflow
06:42:31 <bashfire> a wysiwyg xml wiki
06:43:16 <bashfire> not sure if the first version will be written in forth :(
06:45:30 <Herkamire> hi Speuler :)
06:46:05 <Herkamire> wysiwyg xml?
06:46:29 <Herkamire> I thought you had to edit wikis in the browser?
06:46:51 <bashfire> yes, in the browser
06:47:16 <Herkamire> there's a browser with wysiwig xml editing?
06:47:49 <bashfire> wysiwyg yes, xml is what i will do
06:48:27 <bashfire> umm, not a browser, a cgi
06:49:35 <bashfire> taking away the pain "you have to install this and that for viewing/handling our pages" ...
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06:52:43 <bashfire> svg and vrml/x3d will still need that though. but this doesn't relate to wiki up to now anyway. for beyond..
06:53:04 <bashfire> s/for/far/
06:54:17 <bashfire> Speuler: questions like
06:54:31 <bashfire> how much Watts can we expect the x25 cpu to draw?
06:55:06 <Speuler> haven't seen J.Fox visiting the wiki yet :)
06:55:19 <Speuler> or C.Moore, in that respect
06:55:41 <bashfire> (i like to mount 25-100 units on the board)
06:56:00 <bashfire> not i misunderstanding..
06:56:44 <bashfire> multi die, multi cpu, multi blade, multi rackunits
06:59:17 <bashfire> since 100.000 units minimum were an obstacle, this solves the puzzle for me
07:01:03 <bashfire> i can use the teraips very well and 24/7
07:01:31 <Speuler> w/o purchasing a nuke
07:04:40 <bashfire> seriously, not *a* misunderstanding
07:05:39 <bashfire> ok i'm a dreamer ;-)
07:07:18 <Speuler> just found an interesting bug in bashforth.     : ls ( -- ) ." *"  ;  \ this word displays the contents of the current dir :)
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07:18:01 <onetom> Speuler: lill
07:18:03 <onetom> loll
07:48:35 <Speuler> ah
07:48:45 * Speuler tried  to decode "lill" :)
07:49:21 <Speuler> hi 1tom
07:49:32 <Speuler> almost wrote 1tim
08:06:56 <Herkamire> anybody want to be my python consultant for a few minutes?
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08:21:20 <Herkamire> I wonder how long it will take my girlfriends 400Mhz AMD k6 to compile xfree and mozilla-firebird and 10 or 15 dependancies
08:21:56 <Herkamire> I hope it will be done by tomorrow morning
08:22:20 <Herkamire> 12 hours would be cool, but I can wait 20
08:22:26 <Robert> This is why I use Debian :)
08:22:52 <Herkamire> yeah. I was going to use binary packages for the base install, but I couldn't find them.
08:23:33 <Herkamire> whatever. she can definately use the optomization I'll get this way.
08:23:45 <Herkamire> she just won't have a computer today :)
08:25:14 <Herkamire> it might take her 10 hours to build mozilla. I hope firebird is quicker
08:25:58 <Herkamire> it seems to be crunching away at xfree, perhaps HD speed is more a factor that CPU speed
08:54:01 <Speuler> Herkamire, i could tell you how long it took on an 1800 celeron, maybe you could extrapolate from that
08:55:23 <Speuler>  10364 secs for xfree4-3
08:56:02 <Speuler> 40 secs for drm
08:56:40 <Herkamire> I think a lot of it has to do with the speed of the hard drive. also she only has ~64MB of ram, so that might slow it down
08:56:50 <Speuler> indeed
08:58:24 <Speuler> firebird i compiled just yesterday
08:59:58 <Speuler> 8262 secs
09:01:04 <Speuler> the compiled version was btw. much snappier than the binary version which i've installed before
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10:50:12 <tathi> Yay, my forth is mostly back in one piece again. ;)
10:50:51 <XeF4> what did you do to uhwhole it?
10:52:45 <tathi> nothing too serious
10:52:48 <tathi> renamed a bunch of stuff
10:52:53 <tathi> reworked the initialization
10:53:01 <tathi> and linking
10:54:06 <tathi> just took longer than I thought it would
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18:07:22 <arke> y0 all!!!!!!
18:07:38 <arke> i f34r n0n3, f0r 4th sh4ll guid3 m3!!!
18:08:09 <tathi> dork ;)
18:08:50 <arke> naah. geek gone l33t.
18:08:53 <arke> which is a good thing
18:09:17 <Klaw> out of the frying pan and into the kettle
18:09:33 * arke does things like        : d00p dup ; : sw4p swap ;  : 0v3r over ; : r0t rot ;
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18:39:07 <snow_richard> hello
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19:03:26 <onetom> arke: hehe.. its sooo annoying, that its already charming ;)
19:03:41 <onetom> arke: why do u do things like that?
19:03:53 <onetom> imean, why r u doing...
19:08:38 <arke> : d00p dup ; ????
19:11:05 <uuter> is that legit Forth?
19:11:58 <uuter> if thats the question, the answer is yes
19:20:07 <arke> its just fun
19:20:41 <arke> i prefer seeing code like d00p m00 @    over    dup moo @
19:20:42 <arke> :P
19:53:01 <fridge> hehe
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22:50:58 <gilbertdeb> aloha
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23:04:44 <mur> morinng
23:07:07 <Robert> mur!
23:07:13 <Robert> I'm going to school now
23:07:21 <Robert> Take care of the other forthers!
23:08:59 <gilbertdeb> terve mur
23:09:08 <mur> terve
23:09:14 <mur> Robert:  your shell is very shell :/
23:09:18 <mur> ups
23:09:22 <mur> very slow
23:17:41 <Serg_Penguin> hi :))
23:17:57 <Serg_Penguin> how are your projects ?
23:18:31 <Serg_Penguin> mine are rotting - work, girls .. :))
23:19:16 <gilbertdeb> woo hoo!
23:19:23 <gilbertdeb> good job Serg
23:21:33 <mur> ;)
23:22:53 <mur> sounds great
23:25:38 <Robert> mur: :/
23:25:48 <Robert> mur: I'm SSHing  to the shell from school now :)
23:25:53 <mur> :)
23:26:03 <mur> do you notice any lag?
23:26:05 <Robert> mur: It's extra slow now since I'm uploading some files to another server.
23:26:11 <mur> ah
23:26:14 <mur> i thought so
23:26:20 <mur> except i thought you were downloading
23:26:26 <Robert> You'll have to live with it for maybe 20 more minutes.
23:28:01 <mur> np
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23:40:38 <Serg_Penguin> mur: did u write a nice sprite game you were talking about ?
23:41:34 <mur> uhhh
23:41:34 <mur> no
23:41:36 <mur> ;)
23:41:45 <mur> grr, this mac keyboard
23:41:46 <mur> :P
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