00:00:00 --- log: started forth/03.09.04 00:07:48 --- quit: Robert ("brb") 00:11:52 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h31n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 01:03:17 --- join: edrx (root@200.216.37.142) joined #forth 01:17:15 any emacs users here? 01:17:35 I got some ideas for a forthish environment on top of emacs 01:17:45 should be less than 100 lines for the kernel 01:17:57 (100 lines of emacs lisp, of course) 01:23:30 not much 02:32:18 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 02:32:28 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Client Quit) 02:47:55 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:04:46 --- join: gilbertdeb (~knoppix@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 04:53:12 --- quit: gilbertdeb ("Client exiting") 04:55:29 --- quit: onetom (Remote closed the connection) 04:55:33 --- join: onetom (~tom@cab.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 05:58:17 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 06:03:43 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 07:15:00 --- join: hovil (~matt@CommSecureAustPtyLtd.sb1.optus.net.au) joined #forth 07:17:03 Hi hovil 07:17:33 hola 08:18:21 --- join: jma (~jma@h-64-105-21-62.DNVTCO56.covad.net) joined #forth 08:42:50 --- quit: jma () 08:57:17 --- join: gilbertdeb (~gilbert@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 09:08:18 morning gilbert 09:08:53 aloha Suzanne 09:09:29 * gilbertdeb is fighting viruses on windows 09:09:32 this is no fun! 09:09:48 heh 09:09:56 got infected ? 09:10:02 a friend. 09:10:06 ah 09:10:17 the other week, i had broken IDE drivers on my XP machine.... 09:10:37 i tried a few things, but rapidly came to the conclusion that it would take a 'restore system' from the CD 09:11:11 but, when you restore from CD, all of the hotfixes are removed, by the time i had opened my browser on windowsupdate, i was infected by a worm 09:11:28 no idea why the firewall s/w didn't catch it, but it didn't 09:12:50 which worm?? 09:13:13 the current one i'm battling is apparently called winkbs 09:13:15 not quite sure, it was during the height of blaster, but it was NOT blaster 09:13:26 it did however spread via RPC as best as i could tell 09:14:06 the odd thing is that, when I boot from floppy and remove c:\windows\system\winkbs.exe ... by the time I reboot back into windows, it's been renamed to winkawp.exe 09:14:24 and it _keeps_ doing that! 09:14:30 * Suzanne nods 09:15:18 --- join: gilbertbsd (~gilbert@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 09:16:13 I actually delete the .exe 09:16:20 I just can't find whats spawning it. 09:16:38 gilbert, tbh, i'd just reinstall 09:16:42 its easier in the long run 09:17:12 dl a firewall (KPF is my choice) and AV program, on another machine, and install them with windows, and the PC disconnected physically from the net 09:18:12 I don't have the installers and neither do they. 09:19:00 time to get them to pay for a copy of windows, then :P 09:19:17 :D 09:19:41 Hi 09:20:21 brb 09:20:33 --- quit: gilbertbsd ("Told you I could quit any time!") 09:21:19 --- join: gilbertpix (~knoppix@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 09:22:38 --- join: Herkamire (~jason@h000094d30ba2.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 09:23:31 leave gilbertdeb! 09:24:16 I'm fighting viruses too 09:24:28 hovil, which one? 09:24:38 me too, truth be told 09:24:42 I think its the flu 09:24:46 but mine is the more traditional 'cold' variety 09:24:46 har 09:25:28 a teaspoon of vodka 09:25:33 make that two if you're large 09:25:48 gilbert, i'd rather not, being an ex-alcoholic and all 09:26:15 hmmm. 09:26:23 but any cough medicine has some alcohol 09:26:28 I will try your advice when I get home from work 09:26:42 gilbert, so? 09:26:52 last time i took cough medicine was, ummm, about 18 years ago ;P 09:27:13 hehehe. 09:27:20 I try to not take any medicine at all. 09:27:32 no, not even paracetamol 09:29:00 * Suzanne stares oddly at gilbert 09:29:09 :) 09:29:19 when I fall sick, I fast and rest. 09:29:22 no, the odd stare is for calling it 'paracetamol' :P 09:29:29 heheh. 09:30:12 what should I call it? 09:30:15 ah tylenol 09:30:33 can you even BUY pain reliever called 'paracetamol' in the US ? 09:30:41 tylenol 09:30:48 s/paracetamol/tylenol/ 09:30:52 yeah, but its not called 'paracetamol' 09:32:36 you say 'paracetamol' to most americans, even american doctors, and you get a blank stare 09:32:47 --- quit: gilbertdeb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:33:07 heheh. 09:33:19 they should have paid closer attention to that one movie ... 09:34:21 it appears my friends machine has 3 different viruses on here. 09:34:32 anyway, i tend to find ibuprofen works best :P 09:34:44 and to be more specific, 'Motrin's formula 09:35:38 tho, if i ever start getting really bad migraines again, i'll have to track down the 500mg asprin tablets i used to rely on ;P 09:37:05 trainspotting! 09:37:07 thats where. 09:37:19 yeah, they would have learnt about paracetamol there :D 09:37:20 gilbert, yeah, but thats a british movie anyway ;P 09:37:29 no-one ever pays any attention to british movies 09:37:35 don't they? 09:37:39 i do 09:37:42 worst film industry in the world :) 09:37:47 I'm going to see dirty pretty faces as soon as I have some more free time. 09:37:50 at least if they have dead babies on the ceiling 09:38:01 sad thing is, they produce some real gems every now and t hen 09:38:16 Suzanne, can't be and people do! 09:38:22 james bond, pinewood studioes 09:38:25 *studios 09:38:36 like, oh, anything before 1967, LS&TSB, Snatch, Trainspotting, Shallow Grave 09:38:48 gilbert, most people don't think of bond as 'british movies' 09:38:57 don't they? 09:39:03 I also prefer british humor 09:39:10 literary humor ie. 09:39:12 gilbert, same deal with the superman movies, they're generally not considered 'british movies' 09:39:23 superman movies are british??? 09:39:28 gilbert, pinewood again 09:39:34 really! 09:39:39 gilbert, yep, iirc 09:39:53 gilbert, i know that they built a 'replica of metropolis' at pinewood for them :) 09:40:25 gilbert, US funding, UK production 09:40:32 monty python! People here like that as well. 09:40:37 which is pretty much the same deal with bond 09:41:10 gilbert, of course, the idea of 'cheap production' in the UK is mostly dead 09:41:17 oz rules for cheap production these days 09:41:24 what do you mean? 09:41:34 they have cheaper labour? 09:41:37 *labor? 09:41:40 gilbert, pretty much 09:41:55 gilbert, most major movies these days use australia for production 09:42:03 gilbert, matrix and star wars movies, etc 09:42:12 pay peanuts, get monkeys 09:42:36 yes I didn't realize cheaper production was why. 09:43:16 then it will move to india 09:43:20 then to ... 09:43:32 hovil, indochina 09:43:33 I thought there was something about the oz landscape that encouraged them to make movies there. 09:43:45 gilbert, nope, production costs are the majority of the issue 09:43:55 gilbert, watch 'the matrix' not much oz landscape... 09:44:01 but its 100% filmed in oz 09:44:12 sydney iirc 09:44:26 heh, doesn't really matter when you are standing in front of a blue screen for 90% of the time 09:45:20 iirc, you can just about make out that it's oz, if you know how oz looks around the cities, in the 'top of the skyscraper, jump' scene 09:45:33 well, it is a service economy afterall (Tm) 09:46:11 and Suzanne, don't you worry good old georgy dubya is gonna create the first new job in months by making a manufacturing czar! 09:46:16 yay for jobs! 09:46:35 the job to make other ... jobs 09:46:43 a metajob 09:48:04 gilbert, eh? 09:48:19 gilbert, i avoid following the news unless something 'important' happens, so you might have to enlighten me ;P 09:49:13 but how will you know something important happens if you don't watch the news?! 09:49:21 hovil, someone tells me, usually 09:50:00 or i get woken up at absurd times (as was the case with 9/11, i woke up when the first plane hit the tower *shrug*) 09:50:22 i dunno if i 'heard' something or what, but i woke up 09:50:24 I listen to the news too much... hard to avoid when I listening to programmes on the radio and they tell the news every half hour 09:50:42 hovil, the problem is, the news is designed to make you listen/watch the news 09:50:48 Suzanne, I didn't know anything important happened. I am on a mailing list (mises.org) that alerts me every now and then when bush is doing things contrary to the way austrian economics prefers :D 09:50:58 so their goal is rarely to inform, but to addict you to their media 09:51:05 Suzanne, I don't watch the news at all! i have enough entertainment via irc :) 09:51:09 Suzanne: *nod* 09:51:33 sometimes I listen to npr though. I don't own a tv, and I don't subscribe to any news magazines or newspapers. 09:52:01 I do watch dailyshow.com with jon stewart online. 09:52:02 I subscribed to new scientist magazine 09:52:06 THat is news. 09:52:13 as well as onion.com :) 09:52:33 gilbert, the only problem with 'when bush is doing things contary to the way austrian economics' is that you don't know whether it's bush being stupid, or austrian economics being 'broken' ;) 09:52:42 hahahah 09:53:12 gilbert, don't forget that austrian economics embraced the concept of 'send someone to infilitrate our neighbor's government, and take over the world' :P 09:53:17 I have a soft spot for the mises.org stuff simply because they don't throw in math to obscure the inaddequacies of their arguments. 09:53:28 hehehehe 09:53:41 ever since that one english man invented economics, its been hell since then ... 09:53:45 alfred marshall. 09:54:28 may he turn to dust at this pronouncement. 09:55:07 wouldn't that require him not to have turned to dust already ? 09:55:26 if he's been in the ground 80 years already, there's a fair chance you're too late :P 09:56:10 you'd be surprised at the resilience of the properly buried. 09:56:38 wtf is with slashdot ?? 09:56:53 they've been... slashdotted.... it would seem :/ 09:56:54 its very existence? :) 09:57:17 hehehe 10:00:10 hmmm /. /.ed? 10:00:33 --- quit: Herkamire ("leaving") 10:00:52 gilbert, i dunno, i'm getting a lot of 'document contains no data' from their pages 10:00:59 me too 10:01:19 I'm finding a lot of sites unreachable 10:01:27 it is back up. 10:01:39 maybe there is another virus/worm doing its rounds? 10:01:40 mplayerhq.hu, abc, freshmeat 10:02:00 hmmm 10:02:07 well, sobig.g isn't due til the 11th 10:02:35 hehehe 10:03:21 there were a bunch of MS vulns released last night 10:03:35 but none of the sites hovil listed, or /. should be running MS code 10:03:48 still, could be a worm or something sucking bandwidth, i suppose 10:05:08 man, viruses/worms on windows are simply bizzare! 10:05:21 I'm glad I don't (Yet) have to deal with them in linux... 10:05:33 by the time linux gets slammed, I'd have moved safely on to plan9 10:05:52 and that luckily enough is too obscure for anyone to bother with as of now :) 10:06:03 gilbert, its just a matter of time before something big hits linux, tbh 10:06:30 thats why I'm in the middle of transitioning :D 10:06:42 very slowly though ... 10:06:58 my os of choice has always been freebsd though. 10:07:13 Lovely, lovely, loooooovely os 10:08:35 gilbert, mine is OS X :P 10:08:56 same mother, different fathers :D 10:11:51 I think i got rid of it... 10:11:58 I *hope* I got rid of it. 10:12:14 and I just got paid 80 bucks. 10:12:29 hmmm. what might I waste some dough on today? :) 10:14:31 thats right! lion's commentary on unix. 10:14:37 No, no, I'm not a geek. 10:14:42 * Suzanne wooos 10:15:01 merely curious about what you people read :D 10:15:12 just used one of my elisp files for the first time, properly ;) 10:15:44 elisp? as in emacs lisp? 10:15:48 yeah 10:15:58 one of my .el files gives me a 'purge-buffers' command 10:16:13 which drops all buffers that aren't saved, and haven't been touched in 5 minutes 10:16:16 erm 10:16:21 that aren't unsaved 10:16:50 good good! 10:17:12 have you ever looked at acme or wily? 10:17:17 nope 10:18:14 my other major elisp code, is just a few lines that does auto-guard-locking for C/C++ :) 10:18:49 ie, i hit c-c tab and it slaps in #ifndef/#define/#endif around the .h file, with the filename encoded into __H_filename_ 10:19:08 ah. 10:19:38 which reminds me, i can't remember if i fixed it to look for comment lines at the start of file... 10:19:59 (since a lot of my .h files are objective-c and so need // -*- objc -*- 10:20:25 my biggest headache with emacs is keeping everything 'generic' enough 10:20:57 i use cvs to control my .bashrc/.bash_profile/.emacs/.emacs.d across all my machines (linux, windows and OS X) 10:21:21 generic? 10:21:22 and so have to keep things in each one generic enough that they don't break on a specific machine :) 10:22:36 well, for example, i have to make sure i don't put something like (setq scheme-program-name "/usr/local/bin/guile") in .emacs 10:23:15 because that would break my environment on OS X where guile is in /sw/bin/guile-1.6 :) 10:24:33 so basically you need a script to maintain that then! 10:24:46 no, i have .emacs.local for things like that 10:24:56 which is included by .emacs if it exists 10:25:11 but i need to think about stuffing variables in .emacs, and if they're 'portable' enough 10:27:46 sounds rather complimacated. 10:27:54 why not just log into one machine? 10:28:21 One machine, to bind them all... 10:28:28 because tramp is slow 10:30:56 what might tramp be? 10:31:35 i can't remember what it stands for, but its a way to access files on remote machines with transparent methods 10:31:42 ie, ssh, scp, ftp, rsync, etc 10:32:43 I see. 10:35:39 Plan8 :) 10:35:41 oops. 10:35:44 s/8/9 10:35:47 /g 10:41:21 * Suzanne stares blankly at elisp 10:41:48 am i insane... or should... 10:41:49 (defun find-uncommented-line (comment-char) 10:41:49 (if (char-equal (following-char) comment-char) 10:41:49 (point) 10:41:49 (lambda () 10:41:49 (next-line) 10:41:51 (find-uncommented-line comment-char)) 10:41:55 ) 10:41:57 ) 10:42:01 doh 10:42:04 i know what i forgot :P 10:43:09 that looks very much like C! 10:43:13 traitor!!! 10:43:17 ? 10:43:27 the parenthesizing :D 10:43:33 you're missing ))))))))))))) 10:43:41 you did ) 10:43:42 ) 10:43:42 oh, i can't stand that way of writing lisp 10:43:43 ) 10:43:50 Hrmmm. 10:43:55 i find it difficult to count )s once it gets above about 4 :P 10:44:11 you don't count, you let the editor do it for you :D 10:44:13 so i like the )s to match the block that opens them, that way i can read it faster 10:44:23 needs to RLE closing brackets there are so many of them ;) 10:44:29 gilbert, thats ok if you don't mind randomly deleting/reinserting )s to find your position :) 10:44:37 heheheh. 10:44:53 seriously, i find my indentation easier, and i'm not alone 10:45:14 since lisp uses some pseudo PN, I'm sure it is possible to write lisp w/o any ((('s at all, and then have the editor insert them as needed. 10:45:15 now, as to why defun is evaluating my call immediately instead of postponing it for runtime, is a puzzle 10:45:27 (defun test-comment-check () 10:45:27 (goto-char (point-min)) 10:45:27 (find-uncommented-line ?; ) 10:45:27 ) 10:45:27 (lambda nil (next-line) (find-uncommented-line comment-char)) 10:45:43 the '(lambda nil' bit is what emacs spits back on ctrl-j 10:49:56 hmmm. my windows/temp directory is empty but the antivirus thing sees files there... 10:50:04 gilbert, hidden files ? 10:50:10 * Suzanne glares suspiciously at ?; 10:50:11 nothing is hidden. 10:50:26 I unhid everything to make sure 10:50:37 damn. 10:50:47 emacs is lying somewhere 10:50:56 and so is windows :( 10:51:10 I'm going to look for a latest norton 10:51:13 (char-equal ?; ?; ) 10:51:13 59 10:51:13 (char-equal ?; ?2 ) 10:51:13 59 10:51:17 that just is NOT right 10:51:56 i bet it's interpreting ?; as a comment 10:57:03 does anyone use emacs? 10:57:07 i do 10:57:10 well I guess with lisp 10:57:20 thats a bit of a silly question hehe 10:57:33 do you use gnu or xemacs? 10:57:49 gnu 10:58:15 the main reasons to use xemacs disappeared around version 20 10:58:29 which was? 10:58:51 prior to late in v19 only xemacs did syntax highlighting and a bunch of other stuff 10:59:00 I've tried to use emacs a few times, I always end up getting frustrated and running back to the teat of vim 10:59:07 these days, gnu does most of the things xemacs does 11:00:32 is there a forth major mode available? 11:00:55 yes 11:01:16 Forth mode: 11:01:16 Major mode for editing Forth code. Tab indents for Forth code. Comments 11:01:16 are delimited with \ and newline. Paragraphs are separated by blank lines 11:01:16 only. Block files are autodetected, when read, and converted to normal 11:01:17 stream source format. See also `forth-block-mode'. 11:01:57 I might give it another shot 11:14:46 * Suzanne starts to lose her patience 11:16:13 --- join: knoppix_ (~knoppix@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 11:22:31 --- nick: knoppix_ -> gilbertdeb 11:22:45 ok, thats done 11:26:30 of course, i'll have to rewrite it all in a few months 11:26:49 (elisp is planned to be replaced 'soon' with scheme) 11:32:56 --- quit: gilbertpix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:42:13 --- quit: Robert ("2.4.22") 11:45:44 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h31n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 12:12:05 --- nick: hovil -> fridge 12:38:43 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79382.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 13:16:56 --- join: knoppix_ (~knoppix@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 13:40:47 --- quit: gilbertdeb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:42:17 --- nick: knoppix_ -> gilbertdeb 14:32:32 --- quit: wossname () 14:53:34 --- quit: fridge ("http://lice.codehack.com") 15:09:51 Suzanne, we love you, don't get pissed :) 15:10:35 Heh. 15:17:32 --- join: knoppix_ (~knoppix@fl-nken-u2-c3b-178.miamfl.adelphia.net) joined #forth 15:25:36 --- join: crc (~crc@AC861B90.ipt.aol.com) joined #forth 15:25:36 hey 15:26:04 could som1 gimme a url what contains a java applet? 15:27:05 hm.. ugy tunik kifexik ez a dog.. ;( 15:27:07 oops 15:35:25 --- quit: gilbertdeb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:36:16 --- quit: SDO (Connection timed out) 15:37:02 --- quit: SDO_AMD (Connection timed out) 15:39:22 --- part: knoppix_ left #forth 15:43:35 --- quit: crc ("I was using TinyIRC! 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I've put all the information on it into the RetroForth page 16:40:00 deleting the references to it should do 16:40:11 Ok 16:40:23 keep the links 16:40:38 Is there a link to your wiki on forth.bespin.org? 16:40:39 on RetroForth, they only show, but aren't active 16:40:52 on RETRO you can click them 16:41:21 don't think so. the wiki is too new for that 16:41:44 a bit more than 24 hours now 16:42:26 Ahh. That makes a difference 16:42:43 i intend to demonstrate threading types as slides 16:43:12 Ok. 16:43:24 did so for a forth introductory course before. worked well for understanding the processes 16:43:25 I noticed the one for indirect threading 16:48:39 if you want to put any images on which you don't want to externally link, screenshots of flux and the like, send them to me, i'll put them into the wiki dir, for local linking 16:49:26 Ok. I'll do that 16:49:40 Any formats you prefer for images? 16:50:03 you could saft them to l@forthfreak.net 16:50:18 jpg or png would be fine 16:51:29 Ok. 16:53:02 --- join: cduce (~cduce@stu03119.cariboo.bc.ca) joined #forth 17:00:05 --- quit: crc ("I was using TinyIRC! 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Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information.") 18:34:37 Suzanne, Re: "Suzanne starts to lose her patience" 18:38:17 SDO, with emacs :P 18:38:25 SDO, or more accurately, with elisp 18:39:19 (if (...) (...) (lambda () ... ) was returning the lambda expression, not the evaluation of it, like i'd have expected, using cond instead worked tho 18:40:19 probably should have used progn instead of lambda tho :) 18:41:25 or slapped another () around it.. whatever :) 19:16:56 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-169-94-248.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 19:22:55 : cup esc char-emit [ emit-num ." ;" emit-num char-emit H ; 0;16438512H 19:22:56 *the terminal*:134: Interpreting a compile-only word 19:22:56 : cup esc char-emit [ emit-num ." ;" emit-num char-emit H ; 19:22:56 ^ 19:24:27 * Suzanne stares blankly at arke 19:26:02 i dont get it ... whats wrong? :P 19:26:10 * Suzanne shrugs 19:26:20 ..damn gforth. 19:26:21 * Suzanne continues staring blankly at call/cc 20:31:31 --- quit: arke (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:32:05 --- join: arke (~rk@ca-cmrilo-docsis-cmtsj-b-36.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 20:47:24 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@66-91-231-74.san.rr.com) joined #forth 20:47:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 20:48:01 kc5tja: y0 20:48:21 0y 20:48:26 * kc5tja just got back from aikido. 20:48:57 Did 3-man randori tonight. I'm so pooped from it, I can hardly focus on the screen. 20:49:13 Unlike all the other students he called up, I got to go twice. 20:49:18 That really sucked. :) 20:49:45 But that's OK; it's all part of training for my 3rd kyu test. 20:50:10 brb -- going to stretch out a bit. 20:50:13 Maybe that'll help. 20:50:14 3rd cutest 21:00:31 Note to self: stretch more often after class. It definitely helps with the muscle tension. 21:05:07 --- join: jma (jma@dialup-65.56.47.92.Dial1.SaltLakeCity1.Level3.net) joined #forth 21:05:27 hello all, my leaf editor is now available for d/l @ http://www.simforth.com/leaf 21:07:28 cool 21:07:30 --- join: rk (~chris@ca-cmrilo-docsis-cmtsj-b-36.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 21:07:34 windows only? 21:09:16 yeah 21:09:22 sorry if ur a linux guy :( 21:16:17 HEATHEN!! 21:16:19 ;P 21:16:28 --- quit: arke ("Client Exiting") 21:16:35 *gasp* me?! 21:16:47 :) 21:16:54 You will burn at the stake for your crimes against humanity!! ;D 21:17:03 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:17:28 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4d49.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 21:17:32 I knew it would happen... only a matter of time 21:18:28 regardless of being for Windows, I'd appreciate any feedback if you can look at it 21:20:27 I don't run Windows, sorry. 21:20:35 But can you give a quick executive summary? 21:21:25 syntax highlighting geared just for Forth (strings, too: s" sldfkj" is highlighted) 21:21:41 you can send data to your compiler: 21:21:55 typing 1 2 + . cr and hit Shift+Enter and it will open the compiler and execute it 21:22:04 you can highlight text and do the same 21:22:20 bookmarks (and hit ctrl+enter to execute from previous bookmark to caret) 21:22:34 another cool feature is file-based wordlists 21:22:42 but jma, you haven't mentioned anything my current editor can't do, yet :P 21:22:54 it comes with forth.txt sf (SwiftForth) and w32f (Win32Forth) 21:23:01 suzanne, don't know about it :) 21:23:01 what is your cuurent editor, Suzane? emacs? 21:23:06 sonar, yep 21:23:09 Explain those. 21:23:22 to continue... :) 21:23:41 those will create the highlighted words, and when you hover the mouse, it will display the stack notation for the word 21:24:05 Suzanne emacs is evil and should be banished, as well as any who use it 21:24:23 I like emacs... but not on Windows... yeuch 21:24:36 rk, vi user ? :) 21:24:49 VIM 6.x!!! :P 21:24:51 rk is just angry because parentheses confuse him 21:24:56