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14:50:29 its overcomplicated. those lotsa descriptors.. 14:50:43 but have a look at enth's or menuetos boot code 14:51:54 i have a arm machine right next to me, but i want to first get a interactive prompt template, i want to dive in with a forth 14:51:55 * rk wants to make a portable x86 asm forth 14:52:10 http://www.ynet.com.au/sean/download.html 14:52:18 http://www.menuetos.org 14:52:20 but kb, mouse/network etc all are better suited for interrupts 14:52:31 onetom: thanks 14:52:36 np 14:52:56 I was looking at the enth kernel 14:53:23 the middle part of the interrupt gate in the idt is constant 14:54:01 so i thought about writing two times the phys address and then overwriting with const to build the idt in real time 14:54:28 overwriting the middle dword, that is 14:55:25 rk: I want to build that too, but portable in the sens thats the internals are easy to understand 14:56:12 dma requires interrupts too, from what I understand 14:56:35 suprdupr: hehe, with me protable in the sense that most of the code is osindep and one file that provides osdep functions 14:57:30 suprdupr: so, one for DOS, one for windows, one for linux, one for standalone, etc. 14:57:52 why not just standalone 14:58:15 native is the way to go, easier to write code for it and then port to various OS, if needed 14:58:47 IMO color code is the most readable code, and for those who cant see colors or have lcd displays, visual cues shoudl do the trick 14:59:14 like newdefinition: for red words etc 15:00:00 i rethought about macro/forth words 15:00:36 best way is to have a united dic 15:01:29 ? 15:01:52 when ones using visual cues, let say : for defs etc 15:02:06 no no noĆ» 15:02:14 united dic ? 15:02:28 colorofrth have two dictionaries 15:02:31 yes 15:02:42 i thought implementing in my forth a forth word 15:02:46 start of code are macros 15:02:49 your primitives 15:02:55 and then when forth executes 15:02:59 it changes the compiler 15:03:14 or just use another copy to get readonly code 15:03:30 to have words compile call only, no more macros 15:04:15 i have a token to compile a call to a defined word and another to execute the defined word right now 15:04:30 thats okay 15:04:38 but u r prec sentence is not clear 15:04:46 s/prec/prev 15:05:40 show an example 15:06:15 show both the textual & the binary representation 15:08:47 --- quit: Stepan (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:08:47 --- quit: Fractal (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:08:47 --- quit: suprdupr (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:09:08 --- join: suprdupr (CrowKilr@HSE-Windsor-ppp251645.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 15:09:08 --- join: Stepan (~stepan@frees.your.system.with.openbios.org) joined #forth 15:09:08 --- join: Fractal (bron@we.brute.forced.your.pgp.key.at.hcsw.org) joined #forth 15:10:49 --- join: rk_ (~rk@ca-cmrilo-docsis-cmtsj-b-36.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 15:16:49 --- quit: rk (Nick collision from services.) 15:17:01 --- nick: rk_ -> rk 15:17:22 im sure there's a cleverer way to get user input than what's out there 15:17:38 * suprdupr is stuck on this 15:19:11 in al, 61h ;) 15:20:54 damnit.. i cant make directfb 2 call my gforth words :) 15:21:29 i should make some event handlers in 4th somehow tho.. :/ 15:22:19 space triggered word input should work 15:22:36 event handlers from forth is kind of unexplored 15:23:03 on native hardware using the idt 15:47:04 --- quit: suprdupr ("will try to get inspiration and something written about keyboard input handling") 16:21:27 --- quit: rk (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:21:27 --- quit: ooo (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:21:28 --- quit: proteus_ (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:22:47 --- join: proteus_ (~username@sgi.scigames.com) joined #forth 16:23:49 --- join: rk (~rk@ca-cmrilo-docsis-cmtsj-b-36.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 16:23:49 --- join: ooo (~o@jalokivi.netsafir.com) joined #forth 16:25:03 --- join: rk_ (~rk@ca-cmrilo-docsis-cmtsj-b-36.vnnyca.adelphia.net) joined #forth 16:41:45 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21:41:18 <-- ian_p has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21:41:20 <-- onetom has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21:41:22 --> ooo (~o@jalokivi.netsafir.com) has joined #forth 21:41:24 --> onetom (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) has joined #forth 21:41:26 --> ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #forth 21:41:28 --- niven.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ 21:41:30 --> gilbertdeb (gilbert@fl-nken-u2-c3b-118.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined #forth 21:41:34 --> ian_p (ian@inpuj.net) has joined #forth 21:41:36 Oh, I'm pretty sure that it DID see. :D 21:42:02 :) 21:42:06 i didn't see me leaving. 21:42:28 Netsplit. 21:48:26 --- nick: proteus_ -> proteusguy 21:59:49 --- join: Forther (~forthman@co-trinidad1a-42.clspco.adelphia.net) joined #forth 22:08:35 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.140) joined #forth 22:09:43 hi 22:14:43 re 22:15:42 today i'll got my 1'st film out of process ;)) 22:15:51 to see huge expo errors ;(( 22:16:10 --- join: Etaoin (~david@cs2416077-217.houston.rr.com) joined #forth 22:16:25 Perfection comes with time. 22:16:39 Use past experiences to refine future activity. 22:18:30 yeah ! i made notes of every shot - conditions and settings 22:19:06 * Serg_Penguin was busy writing in notebook more than aiming the camera 22:20:02 and, finally, i'll see what errors are fatal and what can be lived with ;) 22:20:38 ..... 22:21:07 heh, people here really demand the ASCII editor what i announced but did not release ;)) 22:21:19 Serg_Penguin which? 22:21:34 ASCII art ed. in Forth 22:21:51 I thought there were already 5 million + ascii editors to choose from! 22:22:12 see TheDraw - cursor goes all time right !!!! 22:22:33 i can not even turn off auto-move ;(((((((( 22:22:54 in my ed, it goes in the direction it was arrowed before 22:23:15 or no auto-move at all, only by arrows - it's GREAT ! 22:23:48 if i wanna draw a vertical line, it's damn boring to hit arrows 3 times after right auto-move 22:25:25 --- quit: jstahuman ("Lost terminal") 22:25:38 gilbertdeb: do u know any good ed what has my main feature ? 22:25:56 or one w/ open-source, what can be easily modiFU..ed ? 22:26:23 no. 22:26:42 and this is the damn reason why i started mine 22:26:44 I use ed, vim, sam, wily. 22:26:56 have you ever seen acme or wily? 22:26:56 for ASCII gfx ???? 22:27:03 Nooo 22:27:09 I thought you meant ascii text. 22:27:14 n/m :P 22:27:22 no, only VI what i failed to steer 22:27:33 and F4 in various commanders 22:29:31 they really lack auto-slanted line like """---___ 22:30:20 ;)) 22:31:26 also, they lack flood fill, auto-anti-alias etc... 22:51:02 --- join: proteus_ (~username@216.27.161.121) joined #forth 22:52:43 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:07:51 --- quit: Forther (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:13:55 Zzzzz 23:13:58 --- quit: gilbertdeb ("Client Exiting") 23:26:44 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 23:43:22 --- quit: kc5tja ("[x]chat") 23:59:59 --- log: ended 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