00:00:00 --- log: started forth/03.06.02 01:07:32 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 01:07:44 ren 01:07:46 re ;) 02:08:11 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 02:20:52 --- join: mur (murr@baana-62-165-186-239.phnet.fi) joined #forth 04:06:07 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 04:08:28 re 04:08:44 privet serjuska 04:09:30 i wrote a one-liner general text parcer ;) 04:09:56 : } ASCII { WORD COUNT TYPE EOLF? ?; QUERY RE ; 04:10:25 } some text { some forth code } some more text 04:11:33 if we define some markup words, we can make a typesetter or kinda like this 04:12:50 today i'll remake it to get \prefixed forth words, not only { curly braced } 04:27:06 :) 04:29:26 --- nick: mur -> mor 04:29:33 --- nick: mor -> mur 04:30:31 so it won't take to be Knuth to write yet another typesetter 04:30:46 AFAIK, PostScript has something in common w/ Forth ? 04:38:07 hmmm 04:38:13 maybe the stack look 04:38:30 postscript uses stacked code 04:38:40 maybe 04:49:33 Knut's spring/glue model is really mega kewl ;) 05:24:13 --- join: sifbot (~sifforth@h0030657bb518.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 05:24:13 Type sifbot: (or /msg sifbot to play in private) 05:43:44 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.197) joined #forth 05:44:33 Good evening! 05:44:33 hi ASau !!!! 05:44:39 Privet! 05:45:17 What are you doing now? 05:45:22 Any projects? 05:45:29 nope ! 05:45:52 month for seeking job, month for patching all holes here 05:46:11 wrote NNTP news sucker in perl ;) 05:46:25 Hm. 05:46:36 and yesterday, revised my old parser in Forth 05:46:56 Hi :) 05:47:15 I'm still going to write mail and news delivering in Forth. 05:47:25 * Robert notes his shampoo bottle was made in Sweden, but with only russian, latvian and ukranian text. 05:47:51 But I'm struggling FPU. 05:48:03 ugh are you sure it was made in sweden, not ordered from sweden 05:48:18 * mur just doenst get what is the catch in .coop 05:48:43 mur: "Made in Sweden" 05:49:05 mur: But it didn't even say what was in it :D 05:49:18 mur: Only lots of silly french, latin and russian words. 05:49:21 * Robert pffffs 05:49:53 bottles usually say bullshit 05:49:54 Robert, learn Cyrillic alphabet and you'll understand composition. 05:50:00 >:) 05:50:01 the National Cooperative Business Association (NCBA) and Poptel and supported by the International Cooperative Alliance (ICA). 05:50:03 ASau: I know most if it... 05:50:10 grr wtf is behind those words 05:50:22 ASau: But interpreting it in the shower, without glasses... :) 05:50:27 but what firms 05:50:38 'components identical to natural' 05:52:00 Practically all words are (usually) chemical terms. 05:52:27 ASau: Which doesn't tell me if it's shampoo or soap :) 05:52:57 Both shampoo and soap are just the same. 05:53:09 They have minor differences. 05:54:15 Sometimes it's better to use soap instead of shampoo. 05:54:28 Yes.. but it's better if I get something in my hair which does NOT make it a rat nest :) 05:55:30 You've got hard water (i.e. high concentration of Ca++ and Mg++ ions)? 05:56:17 * Serg_Penguin Reboots 05:56:28 Happy booting! 05:56:36 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:57:08 ASau: No idea, never measured. ;) 05:57:22 Hm. 05:57:36 It's just plain to recognize. 05:57:59 Or maybe we have much experience in such skills here. :) 05:58:07 Hehe. 05:58:31 Have you ever drunk water from wells? 05:58:37 Yes. 05:59:20 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 05:59:24 wb serg 05:59:35 Then you should have noticed that the taste of water differs from well to well... 05:59:38 re 06:00:01 How do you feel after reboot? ;) 06:00:34 ASau: No, I haven't :) The only well I've been using is the one on the island where my grandparents live in the summer. 06:00:57 dizzy ;( 06:01:22 Hm. Then it's too hard to explain. 06:01:32 Too hard to explain taste of a dish. :) 06:02:28 BTW. ;) 06:02:43 CKOPO CE3OH... BCE HA MOPE!!! 06:03:11 How are you going to spend you summer time? 06:03:31 ASau: point him to school non-organic chemistry book 06:03:58 or organic ? 06:04:15 Hmm. I've passed inorganic 3 years ago :) 06:04:21 i usually stay here ;) don't like travelling 06:04:58 I belive Moscow is not good place to spend summer... ;) 06:05:37 Kuz'menko? 06:05:52 ne panimat 06:05:55 ju 06:05:55 grr 06:05:56 :) 06:06:19 moscow has good connections with railroads :) 06:06:22 Better go here (Chem. dep. MSU) and look at books here. 06:06:44 you can go by train to beijing too from moscow 06:06:46 to finland 06:06:49 mongolia 06:06:57 even to vietnam by train! :) 06:07:10 some fu... bureacrats wanna take railstations out of Moscow 06:07:21 all the 7? 06:07:29 dunno, some 06:07:42 so in case of disaster, we have no chance to escape ;((( 06:07:53 hmm aren't jaroslavskaja and some other in the very centre? 06:08:49 most rae maybe 1/2 from centre to edge - optimal for mass escape 06:09:31 some are near center road ring 06:09:33 I'd say that Paveletsky is not so close to center to move it... 06:10:04 they wanna build markets and skyscrapers instead ;(( 06:10:13 damb bribed bitches 06:10:14 * mur is playing simtower :P 06:10:20 I'd say that all those stations are not in the center. 06:10:45 once public transportation disappears the masschaos is ready 06:10:53 yeah ! 06:11:21 moving will badly hit even usual transport flow 06:11:25 the best place to "show opinion" is in front of the annoying firms 06:11:37 Here mass transport is organized in very interesting way. 06:11:40 the firms dont want to get bad publicity 06:11:47 what do you mean? 06:12:48 Here you can see "arterias", where you can find any transport easy. 06:13:02 Those are central streets. 06:13:14 arterias = signs? 06:13:21 And 2 steps aside those arterias you have nothing. 06:13:34 The major ways. 06:13:47 hmm 06:13:49 E.g. 06:14:12 heh, Moscow was planned at time when people was poor slaves of pentagram kagal, almost no one had personal cars 06:14:27 Serg. 06:14:35 so then ppl got richer and many personal cars - we have terrific road jams 06:14:36 Moscow is not a town. 06:14:49 It is a set of small villages. 06:15:32 heh 06:15:50 One day I've realized that from MSU to MISIS obszhaga and from MSU to Dolgopa it takes 1 hour of time to get. 06:16:09 Approx. 1 hour. 06:16:59 Univ. --- Belyaevo, and Univ. --- Timiryazevskaya, is 1 hr. 06:17:43 Moscow was a town only before 60th. 06:19:59 * mur thinks that helsinki public transportation is excelent :) 06:19:59 BTW, in my native town (800 000 ppl.) 1 hr. road is from center to the farest edge by trolley-bus. 06:20:31 And 1 hr. of "Metro" (that is train) is another town. 06:21:23 I belive Helsinki is not 11 mln. ppl. ;) 06:22:37 That is quite a good illustration of the most terrific rule: 06:22:49 "Moscow is not Russia. 06:22:59 It is quite another state." 06:23:04 as everything in RU, Moscow is thunk by ass ;( 06:23:17 Moscow is not Russia. 06:23:56 * Serg_Penguin likes grid planning ;) 06:24:01 like NY 06:24:04 Have you been in Vladimir, Kalinin, Tambov... anywhere else? 06:24:08 no 06:24:27 Then you have just nothing to compare. 06:24:43 they are worse or better ? 06:24:57 Just take a trip to near situated towns like Ryazan. 06:25:16 They are just too different to compare. 06:25:48 That is (one of many reasons) why Moscow is _not_ Russia. 06:25:58 i was in Obninsk - no sign of any bus, no building >5 storeys, very loose town 06:26:22 Small town is "just another song". 06:26:33 Take a look at big town. 06:26:46 There is empiric rule: :))) 06:26:58 Hahaha: 28-05-2003: Spanish peacekeepers crashed in Yak-42 06:27:17 ref = checkpoint.aero 06:27:27 a town of less 100 000 population is not a town, it's a village 06:27:28 Plane crashes are very fun, yes... 06:28:02 a town of greater 1 mln population also is a village, 06:28:18 heh 06:28:18 only rather big one. :) 06:28:25 ASau depends on what scale you compare 06:28:53 compared to 100 million city clusters in japan, moscow looks quite small too 06:28:56 I say it is empiric rule. :) 06:29:14 Here is Russia :) 06:29:44 I think towns with 20 000 inhabitans are quite big.. ;) 06:32:08 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:33:25 hehe 06:33:44 * mur thinks of creating teleport org and registering teleport.aero >:) 06:34:21 i wonder if it woudl pass 06:34:23 :) 06:45:20 heh, have a look at the end of the list of europe http://www.uia.org/members/home.php 07:16:42 I'm back 07:23:20 back 07:39:22 --- quit: clog (^C) 07:39:22 --- log: stopped forth/03.06.02 07:39:49 --- log: started forth/03.06.02 07:39:49 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 07:39:49 --- topic: 'Interested in publishing an article on or about Forth? If so, we'd love to showcase it on a new #Forth portal site, currently in development! Contact thin or kc5tja via memoserv for details. ::: Also remember to check out Jeff Fox's articles, located at !' 07:39:49 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Tue May 27 22:19:17 2003] 07:39:49 --- names: list (clog ASau sifbot mur Fractal TreyB @ChanServ paxl fridge_ onetom Robert ianni) 07:43:58 We count towns since 12 000 inhabitants... ;) 07:48:36 I've been in towns either 12, 30, 60, 100, 300, 800, 1000, 1100, 5000 and 11000 *10^3 ppl. :) I know what I compare ;) 07:54:24 I don't know how many there are in this town.. 07:54:37 Probably not more than 10 or 20 thousand. 07:54:42 Maybe even less. 07:55:42 If you can cross the town by feet in less than an hour, it is no more than 30 thousand. 07:58:26 Well, I should go. 07:58:35 Do vstreczi! 07:58:37 --- quit: ASau ("Toffee IRC client for DOS v1.0/b535") 08:01:12 An hour?! That's a looong way. More like 20 minutes here, and then there's lots of areas with no housing. 08:02:41 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 08:03:16 * Serg_Penguin is fighting hard w/ a really lame RU proggie 08:03:35 what does it do?= 08:04:32 --- quit: clog (^C) 08:04:32 --- log: stopped forth/03.06.02 08:04:41 --- log: started forth/03.06.02 08:04:41 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 08:04:41 --- topic: 'Interested in publishing an article on or about Forth? If so, we'd love to showcase it on a new #Forth portal site, currently in development! Contact thin or kc5tja via memoserv for details. ::: Also remember to check out Jeff Fox's articles, located at !' 08:04:41 --- topic: set by kc5tja on [Tue May 27 22:19:17 2003] 08:04:41 --- names: list (clog Serg_Penguin sifbot mur Fractal TreyB @ChanServ paxl ianni Robert onetom fridge_) 08:04:51 exports some info from book-keeping database and sends it to tax department under crypto 08:06:11 really, a set of different buggy proggies from buggy-headed vendors, joined by some buggy glue code 08:27:17 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 08:49:20 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 08:49:38 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Client Quit) 08:55:37 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4774.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 09:49:16 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 10:16:38 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@ip68-8-206-137.sd.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 10:16:38 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 10:20:13 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp82331.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 10:25:36 --- join: deluxe (~deluxe@pD954599C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 10:25:56 --- quit: wossname ("B&") 11:39:59 --- nick: mur -> murbrb 11:50:52 --- part: Speuler left #forth 11:58:45 hey 11:58:54 re 11:59:03 hey kc5tja, what's going on? 11:59:21 * kc5tja just finished re-watching Chuck Moore's/Jeff Fox's video on 1x Forth. 11:59:44 werd. 11:59:55 I downloaded Enth last night, it's pretty cool 12:00:13 I tried XcolorForth yesterday, and it just isn't stable. 12:00:24 nod. 12:00:39 Enth's Flux ColorForth is the first one I've used, and it looks like it works pretty well. 12:00:41 If this is a direct transliteration of Chuck's own code, I can't see how he managed to implement Okad in it -- it's so thoroughly unstable as to be useless. 12:00:59 So I'm thinking XcolorForth's author really flubbed up somewhere. 12:01:10 which xcolorforth? url? 12:01:33 The 27-key keyboard layout that Chuck uses is surprisingly easy to use once you get used to it (took me only about 15 minutes). 12:01:42 But I still prefer a full Dvorak keyboard over the 27-key layout. 12:03:11 this seems totally whack, but enth doesn't seem to have <<, >>, lshift, or rshift. 12:03:29 Neither does Chuck's Forths. 12:03:36 He just uses 2* and 2/ . 12:03:48 To multiply by 8, 2* 2* 2* is used instead of 3 LSHIFT. 12:03:55 yeah, but damn. 12:04:09 * a7r augments his code. 12:04:16 I think 2* and 2/ makes more sense, but the compiler should optimize that. It's trivial to optimize. 12:04:28 Interpretation doesn't matter -- that can be as slow as a sloth. 12:04:50 maybe, but I'd counter that >> is more signifying the actual operation you're interested in, i.e. shifting bits over a position. 12:05:05 even though the operations are one and the same. 12:05:33 Well, to me, 2* and 2/ indicate shifts. :D Just how I always learned about them. 12:05:41 yeah, seriously. 12:06:12 I guess my predilection to C is shining through. 12:06:20 Hehe :) 12:07:44 kc5tja: you ever used the 'vars' word before? 12:07:55 Never heard of it. 12:08:07 Oh, wait . . . 12:08:25 For ColorForth, I think that tells the compiler that all future red words are variable definitions instead of code definitions, right? 12:08:32 yeah, I think so 12:08:47 I might have seen it used a couple times in that context. 12:09:37 it looks like it terminates with a white colon, so I end up w/ something like: 12:10:34 varskfunc: 12:10:40 --- nick: murbrb -> mur 12:10:51 and I'm wondering what the significance of the colon is in this case, consider it's not used for defining anything anymore. 12:11:07 VARS tells the parser that all subsequent words are variables. 12:11:14 : tells the parser that all subsequent words are colon definitions. 12:11:20 Ah! 12:11:26 So in your example above, both k and func would be variables. 12:11:55 yeah, I know how it works, cuz I wrote the code. :) I just wasn't sure about the significance of picking colon in a colorforth 12:12:06 but that makes complete sense. 12:29:48 kc5tja: this might sound odd, but do the colorforths usually have do ... loop? 12:29:56 No. 12:30:08 Generally, looping in ColorForths take one of two forms: 12:30:48 1. FOR . . . NEXT. The input parameter to FOR is the number of times to loop (note it's automatically and always equivalent to for( i = 0; i < limit; i++ ), where limit is passed on the data stack) 12:31:25 2. Recursion (This is Chuck Moore's current method). : LoopExample ." Hello world!" DUP 10 < IF 1+ LoopExample THEN ; 12:31:33 ah, sick. 12:31:52 is 'i' still available in FOR ... NEXT? 12:31:55 Yes. 12:32:05 Although, it usually can be accessed with R@ too. 12:32:11 okay. 12:32:23 I actually kind of like Chuck's solution better. 12:32:34 It forces factoring. 12:33:28 Whoops; I stand corrected about the FOR/NEXT construct. 12:33:37 for( i = limit; i != 0; i-- ) 12:33:49 Oh, hrm. 12:33:51 It's a count-down instead of count-up loop. 12:34:37 shit, my sha1 code depends pretty heavily on a forward loop. 12:34:48 * a7r massages the code. 12:34:51 You can always code your loops like C internally does: 12:35:06 initialization BEGIN test WHILE loop-body increment REPEAT 12:35:37 This is, actually, how I typically do all my loops in Forth. I haven't touched DO/LOOP or FOR/NEXT in years. 12:35:38 :) 12:46:45 cool, I'll have to work on those techniques. 12:48:40 :) 12:49:08 * kc5tja is always looking for new ways to improve his code and source code legibility. Especially the latter. 12:49:22 I find DO/LOOP and FOR/NEXT too confusing -- they don't make sense to me. 12:49:42 I always think in terms of, "While this is true, do this." Or, "Do this until X." 12:53:08 nod. 12:58:35 sifbot: words 12:58:36 deluxe: ." .( : if then do loop repeat until exit ... 13:13:47 --- quit: a7r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:05:10 --- join: tcn (tcn@tc3-login26.megatrondata.com) joined #forth 14:05:39 Hi tcn 14:11:20 hey 14:15:06 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 15:07:41 --- join: bwb (~bwb@ip68-4-121-108.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 15:07:46 Going to go. 15:07:47 re bwb 15:07:49 hey 15:08:13 I can stick around for a few minutes if you want; but i do need to get something to eat, and get ready for aikido. 15:08:26 nah don't have much to say.. 15:09:14 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 15:16:14 --- quit: tcn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:01:45 --- quit: deluxe ("bb") 17:08:32 --- join: futhin (futhin@dial-9.ocis.net) joined #forth 17:09:47 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@ip68-8-206-137.sd.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 17:09:47 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 17:10:41 oh hey! 17:10:43 i just got on 17:10:45 re 17:11:00 * kc5tja is going to skip aikido tonight. After getting some food, there's just not enough time to get ready, I think. 17:17:13 i wish i took something liike that 17:18:19 Aikido is great fun. 17:18:25 I highly recommend people try it. 17:21:00 it sounds fgun 17:25:11 back 17:25:40 I never knew PalmOS pdas and cell phones could swap addresses, reminders, etc 17:34:19 * kc5tja nods 17:34:37 There are industry standards for things like business cards, telephone numbers, etc. 17:34:46 It's all part of the IrDA standard, I believe. 17:35:09 yeah dad said that 17:35:20 he was on a comitee or something for irda standard iirc 17:35:46 I just didn't know it covered business cards and reminders 17:36:10 i'm really interested in those tabletop laptops.. 17:36:15 er 17:36:17 tablets 17:36:37 --- quit: mur ("sleep finally succeeds. sleep requested. req ok. seq ok. start!") 17:36:43 a tablet could be great for the creative juices.. 17:37:10 the only problem is that it's windows.. there won't be any new organizational paradigms.. 17:37:33 futhin: I need to think of what to get for college... want something portable.. I prefer keyboard tho... it would be useful for taking notes maybe (as useful as a pad of paper and pencil ;) 17:38:09 I'll prolly just stick with a pc laptop of some sort.. no tablets 17:38:42 futhin: is there no support for tablets and linux? 17:38:57 bwb: the tablets are both laptops (w/ keyboards) & tablets.. 17:39:00 it's convertable 17:39:07 the monitor portion swings around 17:39:19 and then you close the laptop and the monitor is facing outwards 17:39:38 or you open it up and swing it back to face inside and it's a laptop 17:41:06 ah 17:41:18 is it just the digitizer that doesn't work in linux? 17:42:05 i would doubt that linux has much in the way of pen-writing recognition.. 17:42:08 but i dunno 17:42:14 bwb: get a thinkpad, or one of the new Japanese-only Zaurus PDAs. 17:42:16 linux sucks too :P 17:42:22 sucks less 17:42:27 but still sucks 17:43:06 a7r: japenese-only? 17:43:21 bwb: they haven't been released in the US yet.. Dynamism carries them however. 17:43:38 what is special about them? 17:43:46 they're just .. cool. 17:43:53 heh 17:44:04 I have a 200mhz thinkpad.. but will want something to replace main machine 17:44:05 400 MHz PXA255, flip keyboard, they run Linux and the hardware is pretty well understood, etc. 17:44:33 hum cool.. doubt I would use it much tho 17:46:20 http://www.dynamism.com/zaurus7xx/index.shtml 17:47:16 how big is it? 17:47:43 ah there are dimensions 18:04:14 All OSes suck. 18:04:23 Even Forth sucks, because it's an OS when natively hosted. ;) 18:05:42 I keep on crashing Enth, because of my misuse of color. 18:05:45 arg. 18:06:48 thin: Danger -- bespin is acting weird. I can neither edit nor log into the Zope installation. 18:12:40 thin: Seems to be fixed now. Not at all sure what was going on. 18:15:13 --- quit: a7r (asimov.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18:16:00 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 18:26:56 yeah, i want a little PDA 18:27:04 just something i can run like C and forth on would be ok 18:27:11 prorgam on the train 18:41:44 ianni: I have a handspring visor 18:41:47 don't like it tho 18:42:10 it can do handsprings? wowww! 18:42:12 :P 18:46:01 no one can say that i'm not silly 19:09:26 --- join: thin (futhin@dial-255.ocis.net) joined #forth 19:09:47 My article is published on the site. 19:09:52 ok 19:09:55 Well, editorial. It's not a true article. 19:09:56 :) 19:10:10 * kc5tja downloads some videos from UT website, to have a local copy. 19:10:44 I've got tape1.rm (the home interview), Fireside chat 1998, and 1x Forth (this last one is REALLY interesting). 19:10:59 * kc5tja is getting dispelling the user illusion now, and will probably grab Fireside chat 1999 too. 19:11:15 fun fun 19:11:27 It's all very interesting. 19:11:49 i've talked to you about mirroring the entire UT site and then remaking the site so that it isn't so sucky :P 19:11:57 I don't like to stream off of UT's website because it takes forever, the player gets out of sync, and I can't conveniently rewind or fast-forward. 19:12:14 You would need to talk to thefox about that. 19:12:30 well i would remake it then show it to jeff and say "want it?" :P 19:12:31 Speaking of which, I haven't seen Jeff log on here in a while. 19:12:46 he logged in under another nickname 19:12:47 once 19:12:49 or twice 19:12:50 kitsune 19:12:53 yeah 19:12:56 He has a number of log-ons. 19:13:46 yeah, he wants to hide on this channel :P 19:14:05 Hide? 19:14:12 nah 19:14:24 nevermind 19:17:46 kc5tja: so how long did it take to write the editorial? :P 19:17:58 --- quit: a7r (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:19:32 --- quit: futhin (Success) 19:19:50 success! wow! it's like a fortune cookies! 19:19:54 -s 19:21:50 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 19:23:24 ?? 19:23:34 hola. 19:23:38 Oh, your quit message. 19:23:46 hah, what was it? 19:23:49 It took about 2 to 3 hours to write. 19:23:57 a7r: No, futhin's quit message. :) 19:24:02 oh, haha 19:24:09 a7r: It simply reads, "Success" 19:26:23 hehehe 19:27:56 yeah, but i didn't do it 19:28:03 i was disconnected from the internet 19:28:20 so that's the quit message generated by freenode.. 20:01:12 Man, I hate downloading 100MB images from the net. They take forever, and I'm on a cable modem. 20:01:41 uh.. 100mb only took about 15 minutes for me on my cable modem.. 20:02:06 i guess you're not used to the 15 minute long downloads? :P 20:02:46 I've been downloading this file for a lot longer than 15 minutes. 20:03:23 Oh good, it just finished. 20:04:17 DOGGONE IT! IT DROPPED MY CONNECTION! 20:04:27 ouch! 20:04:30 I maxed out his monthy bandwidth allotment! :) 20:04:35 lolll 20:04:42 Fortunately, I got 102MB of it. 20:04:46 It's a 108MB file 20:05:08 hopefully you can resume :P 20:10:30 I don't believe Phoenix/Firebird supports resume 20:10:33 I haven't seen it yet. 20:19:22 --- quit: a7r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:23:20 --- quit: thin ("Leaving") 21:05:24 kc5tja: at least when your downloading 100MB images on a cable modem, the internet is still usable for other things 21:05:36 s/internet/the connection/ 21:05:42 s/the // 21:06:29 Yeah 21:06:29 :) 21:06:35 That is quite definitely true. 21:07:03 Excuse me while I overload Jeff Fox's site again. :) 21:07:12 Downloading the Fireside Chat '99 file(s). 21:07:16 File. 21:07:26 After that, I intend on getting the two ColorForth files. 21:07:36 His speeches are always very interesting to me. He's an *excellent* speaker. 21:59:20 Off to bed. 21:59:28 --- quit: kc5tja ("THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK") 22:00:03 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 22:28:39 --- join: Serg_Penguin (Serg_Pengu@212.34.52.142) joined #forth 22:30:47 hi 22:38:25 kc5tja is missing ;( 22:38:57 i was about to ask him where he lives in USA 22:47:57 --- quit: sifbot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:09:43 back 23:09:49 Serg_Penguin: I can answer that question 23:10:04 Serg_Penguin: Near San Deigo, California 23:10:23 Serg_Penguin: I'm a bit north.. between San Diego and Los Angles 23:11:29 did you ever had your windows shot out, like him ;( ? 23:11:39 * Serg_Penguin had never been under fire 23:12:01 no... 23:12:06 dunno where he lived when that happened heh 23:12:06 but heard of some shootings 23:12:27 I've never even encoutered a hostile situation of any sort 23:12:39 is living in USA so dangerous ? 23:12:44 Serg_Penguin: Don't let that scare you of US or anything :) 23:13:04 in my view no.. but it depends on where you live 23:13:05 big place 23:13:56 * Serg_Penguin was deadly threatened only once, but sorted things out and got away w/ only one face hit ;) 23:14:14 heh 23:14:16 where do you live? 23:14:23 Moscow 23:14:30 ah 23:14:40 cool 23:17:09 but no I'm not really living with fear in the US or anything :) 23:17:40