00:00:00 --- log: started forth/03.05.16 00:34:34 --- join: Fractal_ (byxwnwt@new.cure.for.SARS.found.to.be.strongLSD.com) joined #forth 00:35:46 --- quit: Fractal (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:24:42 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 01:37:03 --- part: a7r left #forth 03:11:08 --- join: sifbot (~sifforth@h0030657bb518.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #forth 03:11:08 Type sifbot: (or /msg sifbot to play in private) 03:49:23 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:43:58 --- join: mur (murr@baana-62-165-186-206.phnet.fi) joined #forth 05:54:35 hi ! 05:54:59 mur: how's your game ? 05:55:20 hey serg! :) 05:55:37 which game? the strategy game? my own? imagination? or life? 05:55:37 :) 05:56:42 u said u was writing or debugging some game ? or it's a bug in my head ? 05:56:49 ah 05:56:55 i was hacking one game :) 05:57:03 changing its configuration and gamefiles :) 05:57:10 it became totally different :) 05:57:16 * mur has also programmed games 05:57:19 but not recently 05:57:48 murr.host.sk/kuvat/maisema.gz is short program for linux X i made long time ago (from stratch) 05:58:19 --- join: PoppaVic (~pfv@s58.waters.gtlakes.com) joined #forth 06:12:02 --- quit: PoppaVic ("(I don't need a reason)") 06:59:45 --- join: PoppaVic (~pfv@s60.waters.gtlakes.com) joined #forth 07:06:25 Mornin' 07:07:09 Not really.. but hi anyway. 07:41:49 4hehe 07:41:57 morning 07:42:06 mornin 08:07:20 irc@home, the new technology, it will make you smile! :D 08:09:50 ha 08:20:23 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.197) joined #forth 08:21:09 Good evening! 08:21:36 g'day 08:22:56 hey 08:23:24 As usual... 08:23:58 I'd like to ask you what about building separate image. 08:24:06 Idea is following: 08:24:51 I can create something like persistent memory snapshot that I am able to load and run from any point. 08:25:19 Has anyone done something alike? 08:25:35 it's akin to a com file 08:25:59 What do you have against such files? 08:26:18 That is the most forthish way to go I think. 08:26:25 assumption is the mother of all fuckups ;-) 08:27:28 I'm sorry but it sounds you're silly ;) 08:27:56 I can take back in case you're younger than 18. 08:28:42 [+] to myself for XAB :) 08:28:44 Sounds like yer lost.. I'm quite a lot older - Perhaps the question(er) and his "issues" need help. 08:29:16 I won't continue. 08:29:24 It's a matter of education. 08:29:38 I'd say: elementary education. 08:29:57 whatever floats yer boat - you just ramble on & on ;-) 08:31:58 JFYI. Compare A.Chekhov and A.Bunin to L.Tolstoy. 08:32:42 mur: Maybe you can say something? 08:33:56 hmm? 08:34:20 I mean my original question, of course. 08:35:05 * mur does not know much about technology. just that it works is good :) 08:35:45 I know, that it works. 08:36:09 I work this way for 2 monthes approx. 08:37:25 I'm more interested in the way to describe in Forth assigning different startup routines. 08:37:59 In this case I'll be able to "compile" separate programs. 08:38:05 "Forth Inside" :) 08:39:13 The goal is simple. 08:39:42 The goal is to avoid compiler for classic OS. 08:40:12 I've heard that even ELF is loaded at constant address, AIR? 08:40:27 I mean Linux. 08:40:55 Everytthing has to load at a "constant address" - it's the constant, and the fixups, that make life interesting. 08:41:39 Keyword: relocation. 08:41:58 No relocation is needed at all. 08:42:00 well, with .com files, I don't believe there was any reloco. 08:42:19 the key was that they always, ALWAYS loaded to 0x0100 08:42:52 now, what they do in DOS/doze, I have no clue anymore 08:43:43 Do you think that .COM file is always position independent? 08:44:26 in cp/m - we only had 64K, and yeah.. As there was no seg-regs, everything was relative to the 100 08:46:48 Do you think you can't have position-independent code for KP580BM3? 08:47:09 I have zero clue what that is. 08:48:16 But I know DOS pretty well. And I know CP/M rather enough. 08:49:17 --- join: karingo (karingo@22.portland-03-04rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #forth 08:49:31 the fun comes when you want those things to be "relocatable" - then you begin heading into the exe and ELF realm. 08:49:34 Good evening! 08:50:16 The relocatable stuff is entirely dependent upon what got laid down and what gets written. 08:52:34 That's have no connection with my question. If you can't write position-independent code, it's your _own_ problems, noone's more anyway. 08:52:54 umm.. Ok. 08:53:19 Well, you have a nice time 08:59:28 --- quit: karingo () 09:12:43 --- quit: ASau ("Toffee IRC client for DOS v1.0/b535") 10:23:58 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 11:06:48 --- join: ez4 (~ez4@pcp01518726pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:07:36 --- join: gengar (~ritchie@rsmith.ccc.ox.ac.uk) joined #forth 11:25:29 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4b88.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 11:43:35 --- quit: ez4 ("Leaving") 12:16:05 --- quit: PoppaVic ("calls it a Knight") 12:29:24 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:34:23 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4b88.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 12:44:32 --- join: futhin (futhin@dial-167.ocis.net) joined #forth 12:45:01 i cry for ice cream 12:56:53 where's my ice cream? 12:57:09 right next to my cheese burger. 12:57:35 the burger is quite hot 12:57:43 it might melt the ice cream 12:57:50 >:D 12:58:07 take some amarreto and peanut butter and mix it up into the melted ice cream 13:03:24 not the greatest mixture, but who cares 13:04:01 --- quit: futhin ("bye") 13:32:42 --- quit: Fractal_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:32:45 --- join: Fractal_ (gvkf@new.cure.for.SARS.found.to.be.strongLSD.com) joined #forth 15:40:43 --- quit: mur ("MURR!") 15:53:31 --- quit: a7r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:07:21 --- join: a7r (~a7r@206.72.82.135) joined #forth 17:57:34 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@207.111.96.118) joined #forth 17:57:34 --- mode: ChanServ set +o TheBlueWizard 17:57:39 hiya all 17:59:34 Evening. 17:59:48 hiya gengar 18:05:46 gotta go...bye all 18:05:51 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 18:26:18 --- quit: gengar ("[BX] Nice boots, wanna fuck?") 18:41:52 --- join: SLACKo (sheriff@62.114.150.226) joined #forth 18:55:01 hello all 18:56:07 hey 18:56:17 hows the forth deving? 18:56:28 nop 18:56:34 sorry 18:56:49 ?? forth cant die 18:56:56 wrong chan 18:56:58 heh 18:57:10 beb 18:57:15 brb; 18:57:16 so what is #forth 4? 18:57:18 kk 19:15:29 --- quit: SLACKo (Remote closed the connection) 19:51:19 --- join: Sonarman (~matt@adsl-64-171-255-190.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 20:29:54 --- join: Klaw (chuck@ip68-4-164-32.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 21:12:00 --- join: Soap` (~flop@202-0-42-22.cable.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 22:01:00 --- join: kc5tja (~kc5tja@ip68-8-206-137.sd.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 22:01:00 --- mode: ChanServ set +o kc5tja 22:56:21 --- quit: Sonarman ("leaving") 22:58:50 --- quit: Klaw (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:11:59 --- quit: kc5tja ("[x]chat") 23:58:57 --- quit: a7r (Remote closed the connection) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/03.05.16