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00:24:43 <ramnull> So, everyone sleeping?
00:26:17 <a7r_> nah
00:27:27 <ramnull> Let's see here. A long in C on an x86 corresponds to one 32bit word, yes?
00:29:49 <ramnull> Yup.
00:32:32 <ramnull> Just parsing out the data from getdents.
00:32:55 <ramnull> It's actually pretty easy once you've got it figured out.
00:33:43 <ramnull> Kinda irritating that I gotta read it into a buffer and then put it into a Forth struct.
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00:37:17 <snowrichard> hello
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01:05:12 <snowrichard> brb
01:07:09 <snowrichard> ok
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02:29:35 <snowrichard> morning.. brb
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02:33:03 <snowrichard> updated my michael program manual
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03:37:55 <snowrichard> updated manual for Michael : http://opensourceincome.com/files/Michael_Manual.html 
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04:54:25 <mur>  
04:54:52 <tcn> heh.. i'm just testing this irc client
04:55:22 <tcn> hm. not bad.
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05:13:09 <serg> hi
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06:15:37 <Robert> Hi
06:16:21 <PoppaVic> Lo. What's the news?
06:16:59 <Robert> News in #forth? Yeah, right..
06:17:33 <PoppaVic> heh - I figured that.
06:19:16 <PoppaVic> Strings in forth sure make strings in C look trivial ;-)
06:20:21 <PoppaVic> But, at least I got the columnized 'words' to work nicer - and quicker.
06:21:33 <Robert> I'm staring to like the Forth way more and more... strlen() isn't supposed to take ages to run :)
06:22:14 <PoppaVic> yeah, that's been an issue since day 1 - but anyone with live braincells does it once-per and uses a var.
06:22:44 * Robert just checked out the Michael things by snowrichard. Another cute little Forth
06:22:56 <PoppaVic> eh?
06:23:13 <Robert> Hm, that was before you joined
06:23:18 <Robert> 12:37:53 < snowrichard> updated manual for Michael : http://opensourceincome.com/files/Michael_Manual.html 
06:23:25 <PoppaVic> loading
06:23:55 <Robert> Yeah.. for(i=0;i<strlen(s);i++) isn't good when the compiler is stupid ;)
06:24:05 <XeF4> hmz, I've been away from a solid net connection for the last 4 months, have any new colorforth clones sprung up?1~ 
06:24:13 <Robert> But still, having to check each character for a zero.. *shrug*
06:24:29 <Robert> XeF4: None that I know of :)
06:24:56 <mur> have anyone coded forth interpreter that woudl work on www-page?
06:25:33 <PoppaVic> well, that for() is just dumb anyway - the programmer shouldn't rely THAT much on a smart compiler.
06:25:51 <XeF4> mur: for generating or with a htmlforms thingy?
06:26:05 <mur> html forms
06:27:29 <PoppaVic> hmm - downloading, Robert - I always enjoy such thingies ;-)
06:28:17 <XeF4> mur: just about any forth that runs on *nix could do that with a pipes wrapper thingy
06:29:56 <XeF4> but if I can find the motivation to do any such thing, it would be a colorforth that works over IRC with mIRC colours =)
06:30:15 <mur> hah
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06:58:59 <Speuler> 'morning
06:59:51 <PoppaVic> lo
07:01:52 <Speuler> hi pop
07:02:21 <PoppaVic> howdy
07:04:06 <Robert> PoppaVic: Right... what you can't see doesn't exist! ;)
07:05:21 <PoppaVic> eruh? oh.. the for()? Well, as I said: programmers like that should be horsewhipped, tarred & feathered, then fired.
07:05:57 <Robert> Haha, right. But then they say "speed doesn't matter these days", and get a raise.
07:06:05 <PoppaVic> ..otoh, shooting them is faster, cheaper & more permanent.
07:06:23 <PoppaVic> yes - and we both know they are still idiots.
07:06:47 <Robert> But well-paid ones :)
07:07:03 <PoppaVic> ..It's one thing to no longer try for the "perfect opcode" Like I use to on my Z80, CP/M box - it's another to be a lazy asshole.
07:07:24 <Robert>  16:07:07 up 3 days, 19 min,  7 users,  load average: 1.40, 1.14, 1.05
07:07:27 <Robert> Argh... load :|
07:07:32 <PoppaVic> Yes.. Which tells me an awful lot about the economy and managment.
07:08:28 <PoppaVic> heh - me & the wife, linux & a modem - days up just don't happen unless I'm coding w/o sleep ;-)
07:08:34 <Robert> Heh, the more you can waste of others' money, the more you get.. That's economy!
07:09:09 <Robert> I'm usually rebooting once every week..when I'm running out of memory :)
07:09:20 <PoppaVic> "Stupid Is as Stupid Does.."
07:10:00 <PoppaVic> Leaks?? Shame on you.
07:11:01 <Speuler> isn't allocated mem supposed to be returned to the system upon termination of the leaking program ?
07:11:15 <Robert> No idea...
07:11:22 <Robert> It's not really leaking, I guess.
07:11:30 <Speuler> (guess kernel leaks have been worked out by now, more or less)
07:11:39 <PoppaVic> yep
07:11:56 <PoppaVic> ..if the program dies, the mem is released
07:11:57 <Robert> After a week I have 10 web pages up, xpdf, irssi, xmms, syplheed - and more :)
07:12:09 <PoppaVic> since I never upgrade my kernel anymore, I wouldn't know.
07:12:52 <PoppaVic> ahhh... prolly 'pache leaking/bleeding.
07:13:21 <Robert> Maybe..
07:13:30 <Robert> Fuck, this Amiga monitor is noisy.
07:13:43 <Robert> At a 10kHz+ freq... annoying :(
07:14:20 <Speuler> instance of apache are usually configured for a limited lifetime, to reduce the effects of mem leaks
07:14:31 <PoppaVic> ahh, the joys of sitting near flyback transformers ;-)
07:15:19 <PoppaVic> <shrug> fuckifiknow.. All I know is my shit doesn't leak, and I know it.
07:15:53 <Speuler> X may be leaky
07:16:35 <Speuler> X 4.3 has a build in protection ... it terminates after a few days ...
07:16:51 <PoppaVic> shouldn't matter for his system if he isn't running shit, but it's acting as a server for others.
07:17:07 <Speuler> ah. no X then
07:17:41 <Speuler> robert, what happened to your "no graphics" attitude ?
07:18:18 <Robert> Speuler: What?
07:18:32 <Speuler> a while ago you declined to run X 
07:18:46 <Robert> I run X for the applications I like.
07:18:55 <Speuler> or was it, your system declined it ?
07:18:59 <Robert> Text-based web browsing sucks.
07:19:01 <Robert> Yeah, that too.
07:19:16 <Robert> I used to have problems with the monitor.
07:19:26 <Robert> Couldn't get more than 640x480.
07:19:50 <PoppaVic> generally, something like w3m and links is ok - the problem is those fuckin' web-heads and their bullshit artsy-fartsy stuff.
07:20:02 <Robert> links is OK, sure.
07:20:10 <Speuler> yes, GUI with that resolution sucks
07:20:10 <Robert> But often you have images and stuff.
07:20:17 <Robert> Also, I miss copy&paste in links.
07:20:21 <Robert> Any idea how to fix that?
07:20:38 <Speuler> gpm could do
07:20:57 <Speuler> left button = mark, middle button = paste
07:21:05 <Speuler> or was it right button ? forgot
07:21:31 <Speuler> but that's mouse stuff
07:21:56 <Speuler> nothing for rodentophobes
07:22:17 <Robert> Hmm...
07:22:30 <Robert> I think the mouse is used for other things in links.
07:22:44 <Robert> It's just like a graphical browser, without the graphics :)
07:22:57 <Robert> Copy & paste _is_ useful.
07:23:00 <Speuler> is my preferred text mode browser too
07:23:07 <Speuler> but no idea how to c&p
07:24:36 <Speuler> not even running gpm
07:26:18 * Speuler watches star trek
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07:49:01 <Fahr> Speuler, you alive?
07:50:10 <mur> he is 
07:50:17 <Fahr> great
07:50:21 <Fahr> is he responding, too?
07:50:41 <mur> probably. but * Speuler watches star trek
07:50:50 <PoppaVic> nah, he's had a Vulcan Neck-Pinch
07:51:06 <Fahr> uhm
07:51:07 <Fahr> huh?
07:51:28 <onetom> Robert: use shift+mouse so u can direct mouse events not 2 the console application
07:51:34 <PoppaVic> I don't balame him - FOX is screwing me outta' my dose of Voyager, anymore
07:51:43 <PoppaVic> blame, too
07:52:01 <onetom> Robert: in case of mc this is the proper solution too
07:52:13 <Fahr> hmm
07:52:22 <Fahr> well, I hope he comes back soon :S
07:52:32 <PoppaVic> "not 2"?
07:52:39 <Fahr> ?
07:54:21 <PoppaVic> Boy.. It is a LOT nicer to use 'words' when you get it columnized, sheesh.
07:56:09 <onetom> PoppaVic: not to
07:56:37 <onetom> PoppaVic: just pronounciate my digits when they dont make sense as numbers
07:57:33 <onetom> PoppaVic: & pronounciate them as wrong as u can 2 achieve sense. that is 2 also means "to" not just "too"
07:58:03 <onetom> PoppaVic: like f8 = faith
07:58:18 <onetom> PoppaVic: gute n8
07:58:36 <PoppaVic> umm.. 'f8' is a key.
07:58:55 <onetom> thats the trick
07:59:09 <onetom> wo context u cant apply the above rule
07:59:38 <onetom> but in the sentence: my f8 is Bing here, its obvious that im not refering 2 the ke
07:59:41 <onetom> y
07:59:50 <PoppaVic> I hate that AOLishness.
07:59:56 <Fahr> me too
07:59:57 <onetom> many ppl hate
08:00:05 <PoppaVic> dude - you need less LSD
08:00:20 <Fahr> what is so wrong with proper language?
08:00:20 <onetom> still many ppl let me use it
08:00:38 <Fahr> why does everybody have to be 'l33t' - usually the greatest morons, too
08:01:02 <onetom> Fahr: everythin is wrong w proper lang
08:01:13 <onetom> Fahr: just as wrong as w my abbrev.ed version
08:01:24 <Fahr> *sigh*
08:01:40 <PoppaVic> it's a waste of my time to even try to make sense of that crap.
08:01:58 <Fahr> abbrevations are quite ok, common ones like 'brb' 'bbl' or 'ppl', but using NUMBERS to indicate words is just a little too
08:01:59 <onetom> Fahr: but mine is easier 2 produce 4 me. of course it demands more processin on the other side
08:02:19 <onetom> Fahr: lil 2.. yea, 4 the very 1st time
08:02:57 <mur> can someone test png alpha work in browser?
08:03:00 <onetom> Fahr: but the mind can easily adapt 2 anythin
08:03:08 <PoppaVic> yeah, I can deal with abbrev. that you'd read in a doc or text. AOLism is just the mark of a whore.
08:03:44 <Fahr> PoppaVic: what then about commonly used internet ones like 'brb' or 'ppl' - I have no problem with those really
08:03:57 <onetom> PoppaVic: ppl usually say this & sayin this all the time make them think its a universal truth
08:04:06 <onetom> PoppaVic: but its just a selfmade illusion
08:04:35 <PoppaVic> Fahr: I agree - brb & such is just sensible - like acronyms
08:04:47 <Fahr> ok
08:04:58 <Fahr> but those are common
08:04:58 <onetom> PoppaVic: eg, if i start sayin that u r serbian & i start sayin it using many names on many channels
08:05:04 <mur> <ZomB> can you guys keep a secret?
08:05:04 <mur> * Bratalabi is now known as Bratalarm
08:05:05 <mur> <Maloeran> that's an unusual question to ask on a public 80 users channel 
08:05:08 * PoppaVic solved the problem.. Next?
08:05:15 <onetom> PoppaVic: then that irc population would think u r really serbian
08:05:58 <onetom> Fahr: belive it or not, my numberin abbrevs r also common... here eg.
08:06:05 <Fahr> onetom: can you actually also NOT type nonsence? just for a few minutes?
08:06:23 <PoppaVic> mur: stay off that LSD/PCP shit - it makes you even less understandable.
08:06:25 <onetom> Fahr: & believe it or not, i use it just as much in my native language
08:06:41 <onetom> Fahr: whats more i also mix 2 two
08:06:46 <onetom> eg:
08:06:54 <onetom> 1 kutyad?
08:07:04 <onetom> van kutyad?
08:07:04 <Fahr> ...
08:07:15 <onetom> means: do u have a dog?
08:07:21 <Fahr> how nice
08:07:24 <Fahr> and yes, I do
08:07:26 <mur> PoppaVic some weird pseudoscientist came to #asm and tells about his weird research. he thinks himself as psychiatrist.. 
08:07:26 <Fahr> now please shut up
08:07:35 <onetom> but we pronounce _van_ just line _one_
08:07:57 <Robert> Oh, great.. Forth fighting.
08:08:12 <Fahr> Forth Fighting?
08:08:22 <fridge> cool
08:09:02 <Fahr> well, it is time for me to leave, I'll try to contact Speuler later...
08:09:07 <Fahr> bye people
08:09:44 <Robert> See you Fahr
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08:10:57 <mur> why is irc weird now?
08:12:21 <PoppaVic> irc is usually weird - just not forth, usually.
08:12:24 <fridge> I thought it had always been weird
08:12:40 <PoppaVic> ..actually, forth is just dead, typically.
08:15:27 <Robert> :(
08:17:32 <mur> Robert, PoppaVic, and fridge? do you have a graphical browser in hand? could you test if png transparency works in it, http://murr.host.sk/tmp/pngalpha.html
08:19:09 <Robert> 1 looks OK, 2 doesn't.
08:19:15 <Robert> And I'm using Opera 6.11
08:19:25 <mur> what does 2 say?
08:19:34 <mur> can you dcc me screenshot?
08:19:38 <Robert> Heh, now it suddenly works.
08:19:50 <Robert> The lower part was just red.
08:20:00 <Robert> Maybe it wasn't loaded.. I don't know.
08:20:25 <mur> Robert does it look the same than correct (on right) one?
08:20:44 <Robert> Now they both do, yes.
08:22:01 <fridge> ni-mh batteries are cool
08:23:52 <fridge> I'm using safari
08:24:35 <mur> fridge do the look likein correct image?
08:25:08 <fridge> 1 isn't blended in either, 2 is blended in both
08:25:36 <mur> so right and left ones are similar? what version of safari is it?
08:25:43 <fridge> mur: yes
08:26:03 <fridge> safari public beta 2
08:26:56 <PoppaVic> back a bit later - need the phone...
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08:30:23 <mur> thanks!
08:59:05 <Klaw> i like safari
08:59:09 <Klaw> but it needs the prefix
08:59:17 <Klaw> http://url.com/script?%s
08:59:21 <Klaw> that fun stuff
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09:26:28 <Robert> Hi snowrichard
09:26:36 <snowrichard> good morning
09:27:10 <snowrichard> I updated the manual for that little language I was working on
09:27:10 <Robert> I checked that Michael page of yours, cute little language :)  It's meant to be embedded in C programs, right?
09:28:25 <snowrichard> Actually right now the main() function is an interpret loop.  if i were to embed it somehow I'd have to make a few changes.
09:28:49 <snowrichard> but I have it in a CVS
09:30:25 <snowrichard> but there is spare opcode space yet so I could write application specific C functions if I needed to.
09:30:54 <snowrichard> the source code is in the download
09:31:56 <snowrichard> the next major thing I wanted to add was ncurses interface to make screen handling a little easier (data entry forms) 
09:32:36 <Robert> What will you use it for, then?
09:32:40 <snowrichard> and a CASE instruction
09:33:24 <snowrichard> hadn't really thought about what to use it for, I just have had these ideas kicking around in my head for a while about how I want a language to work for me.
09:34:00 <snowrichard> The file include capability is much improved now, the include files can include other files.
09:35:31 <Robert> Nice :)
09:35:53 <snowrichard> up to 10 deep.
09:37:05 <snowrichard> this second version is a little more memory efficient.  I had been parsing a whole file into a token list, and then running the list.  This one gets a token at a time from input as needed. 
09:38:10 <snowrichard> I also changed the dictionary from a linked list to a fixed size array, which eliminated a recursive search.
09:41:17 <snowrichard> this version is much easier to understand I think too because while I am parsing the tokens I set a token type, then the compile or execute routine just uses a switch statement to decide what to do.  I did have a bunch of convoluted if statements, and it was looking up stuff over and over again. 
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09:44:00 <snowrichard> wb
09:45:30 <mur> thanks
09:45:54 <Robert> How do you handle memory? A separate playground for the Forth program, or does it use the interpreter's memory?
09:46:42 <snowrichard> it uses malloc.  the programs are supposed to only write inside of their variable's area
09:47:05 <Robert> Okay... so they can in theory do bad things?
09:47:30 <snowrichard> well, yes just like normal C I guess
09:47:42 <TreyB> Or normal forth.
09:47:59 <Robert> :)
09:48:16 <Robert> Not always, especially not when intepreted.
09:57:38 <snowrichard> so anyway after I got the second version running last night I added examples to the manual that were cut and pasted from an actual run.
09:58:52 <snowrichard> and I noticed I didn't have a DROP and added that too
10:03:57 <snowrichard> http://opensourceincome.com/files/Michael_Manual.html
10:05:49 <Robert> Hah.
10:06:00 <Robert> Forgetting drop might cause some trouble ;)
10:11:32 <snowrichard> well I haven't done a great deal of programming in forth and I was working from memory when I chose the operator set.
10:14:01 <snowrichard> but there are only 53 words defined now, so there is much more that could be added. 
10:14:41 <snowrichard> and some of those are 0bran and bran which aren't used by the user directly
10:28:38 <snowrichard> but on an unrelated topic have any of you ever used an HP-41C? I used to have one and I sold it for a song.  
10:28:52 <Robert> Heh
10:29:02 <snowrichard> I mean I sold it cheap
10:29:04 <Robert> Don't even know what that is. :)
10:29:10 <Robert> Calculator?
10:29:36 * XeF4 back for a bit
10:29:42 <snowrichard> HP calculators use RPN too, that was my first exposure to using stacks. (but the stack is only 4 deep)
10:30:51 <snowrichard> it was alpha numeric. you could have it ask questions, etc. 
10:31:52 <Robert> :)
10:32:26 <snowrichard> I was on a ship, no room for a real computer, but this fit in my pocket
10:33:06 <XeF4> excuses, excuses :-)
10:33:35 * XeF4 was on a ship and packed 2 C64s and an Amiga 500 into his cabin =)
10:33:44 <snowrichard> we found space to set up our stereos though :) 
10:34:03 <snowrichard> I didn't have a cabin, just  a bunk
10:34:09 <XeF4> (which was ~2x2.5m and shared with another)
10:34:41 <XeF4> unfortunately, the monitor did not fit, so I never got to use them..
10:34:55 <mur> XeF4: poor
10:35:04 <XeF4> mur: ??
10:36:21 <snowrichard> you could also have alpha labels for the programmable function keys, which was cool.
10:36:22 <mur> nothing
10:36:25 <mur> bad luck
10:48:44 <XeF4> onkohan 'unstable' tällä hetkellä suhteellisen vakaa?
10:49:08 <mur> no idea
10:49:43 <XeF4> oooh
10:49:52 <XeF4> wrong window
10:50:16 <snowrichard> wrong language for me
10:50:40 <XeF4> er, is debian unstasble reasonably solid at this moment?
10:58:01 <Robert> Sure.
10:58:11 <Robert> I haven't had any problems.
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12:59:59 <XeF4> hallo.
13:02:42 <Robert> Hey
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14:08:05 <kc5tja> re
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14:18:33 <snowrichard> hey
14:19:09 <kc5tja> Howdy
14:19:31 <snowrichard> hello.  Do you have xmms?
14:19:42 <kc5tja> I do.
14:19:55 <snowrichard> can you test a shoutcast stream I am broadcasting right now?
14:20:14 <kc5tja> I can try.  I've never used xmms for shoutcast before.
14:20:39 <snowrichard> just open http://csf.dynu.com:8000/listen.pls
14:22:43 <kc5tja> My xmms isn't doing anything.
14:23:11 <snowrichard> mine didn't either. let me restart it
14:23:33 <kc5tja> I mean, it didn't even try to access the network.
14:23:44 <XeF4> couldn't connect to host
14:23:45 <kc5tja> I got no diagnostic messages or anything.
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14:26:37 <kc5tja> xmms could at least have told me.  :/
14:28:16 <XeF4> "file could not be played.  precisely why this is so is none of your concern. please try later."
14:29:15 <kc5tja> I don't get that.
14:29:19 <kc5tja> It just ... sits there.
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14:29:41 <snowrichard> http://csf.dynu.com:8000/listen.pls
14:30:30 <kc5tja> Nope.  I don't think my xmms is compiled right or something, because it just doesn't respond.  No errors, no success, no nothing.
14:30:42 <snowrichard> its working for me now
14:31:02 <kc5tja> I'm using 1.0.1 if that makes any difference.
14:31:15 <kc5tja> (which it probably will)
14:32:47 <snowrichard> try http://csf.dynu.com:8000
14:33:48 <kc5tja> via web or via xmms?
14:33:53 <snowrichard> web
14:34:05 <snowrichard> its a web page for the server
14:34:26 * kc5tja nods
14:34:27 <kc5tja> I got it.
14:34:41 <snowrichard> so you can connect even if you can't play the stream
14:35:11 <kc5tja> Yes.
14:35:11 <snowrichard> if you were to use Konqueror it would play it with Kaboodle
14:35:27 <kc5tja> Well, maybe if I had a more recent xmms version, it'd play it too.
14:35:39 <kc5tja> But my xmms just didn't even try to hit the network, let alone actually load the stream.
14:35:56 <kc5tja> My version is aparently borked.  :(
14:38:38 <snowrichard> it was amazingly easy to set up.
14:38:45 <snowrichard> the server I mean
14:39:07 * kc5tja nods
14:39:10 <snowrichard> there are two binaries, a server and a broadcast client
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15:31:42 <Robert> Argh!
15:31:52 <Robert> 10 seconds.
15:32:02 <snowrichard> hello rober
15:32:02 <Robert> That bastard.. :P
15:32:05 <Robert> Hi snowrichard
15:32:49 <snowrichard> was playing with shoutcast, installed a linux server
15:33:17 <Robert> Southcast, what's that?
15:33:44 <snowrichard> streaming audio broadcast
15:34:15 <snowrichard> from the people  that make winamp but you can listen with xmms on linux
15:34:57 <Robert> Ah, okay.. Listening through "Delicate sound of thunder", local mp3s.
15:35:46 <snowrichard> http://csf.dynu.com:8000/listen.pls is the  stream I have up now, only a few songs so you'd get bored pretty quick
15:35:46 <Robert> So.. now I have to find out how IsForth does ASCII -> integer conversion.
15:35:56 <Robert> Any interesting songs?
15:36:12 <snowrichard> our own stuff (my sister and I)
15:36:18 <snowrichard> christian
15:36:34 <Robert> Oh... then I should stay away ;)
15:37:22 <snowrichard> well i don't have to worry about licensing if I am broadcasting original stuff.  But it is only to test the concept anyway
15:41:53 <XeF4> whee, the stream works
15:42:14 <snowrichard> thanks I was wondering
15:42:33 <snowrichard> yes it shows 1  listeners now
15:43:18 <snowrichard> 80.74.207.174] starting stream (UID: 7)[L: 1]{A: FreeAmp/2.1.1}(P: 0)
15:46:09 <snowrichard> one of the songs is messed up pretty bad.  sounds like chipmunks
15:46:54 <snowrichard> faulty conversion to mp3 when I was learning how
15:49:39 <snowrichard> that bad huh? well thanks for testing it
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15:55:41 <tcn> hey
15:56:30 <Robert> Hi :)
15:56:50 <Robert> Any idea where isforth converts ascii strings to integer numbers?
15:57:13 <tcn> hmm.. 'number' or '>num' or something
15:57:18 <Robert> OK, thanks.
15:57:19 * Robert greps
15:58:37 <Robert> "number", it seems. Thanks :)
16:00:34 <tcn> say, you seen i440r here lately?
16:00:43 <XeF4> some minutes or hours ago
16:00:59 <XeF4> er, 1.5hrs ago
16:02:43 <tcn> hm, how about crc?
16:03:08 <XeF4> oh btw, I copied that colorforth-in-halfwaydone project to a floppy and set up Debian on the ship's laptop, so maybe, just maybe, motivation permitting.. 
16:03:17 <XeF4> about the same time as i440r
16:03:52 <tcn> oh. damn. gotta talk to them about isforth & retro
16:05:51 <Robert> XeF4: More like .5 hours.
16:07:25 <tcn> anyone want my Tinyirc client? :)
16:08:09 <Robert> Sure :)
16:08:13 <Robert> What's it written in?
16:08:33 <tcn> C
16:08:43 <Robert> I'd like to try it anyway.
16:08:48 <tcn> I thought someone like i440r would like to mess with it
16:08:57 <tcn> convert it to isforth :)
16:09:00 <Robert> Heh.
16:09:19 <Robert> Parsing IRC in Forth.. *shrug*
16:14:03 <tcn> ok, http://bespin.org/~tom
16:14:09 <tcn> tinyirc.c
16:14:27 <kc5tja> Gotta go -- school.
16:14:32 <tcn> later kc
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16:18:05 <Robert> OK, I'll check
16:22:14 <Robert> Hmm. Can't compile it
16:23:49 <tcn> problem?
16:24:03 <tcn> i use: gcc tinyirc.c -o tinyirc -lncurses
16:24:14 <Robert> tinyirc.c: In function `updatestatus':
16:24:14 <Robert> tinyirc.c:235: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
16:24:14 <Robert> tinyirc.c:239: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
16:24:15 <tcn> that's what I forgot to add :)
16:24:18 <Robert> Oh.
16:24:31 <tcn> an integer *IS* a pointer :)
16:24:37 <Robert> Still getting those errors, though.
16:24:43 <Robert> You forther!
16:24:56 <Robert> This i C, dammit ;)
16:26:59 <tcn> must be you have a different 'time' structure
16:27:10 <Robert> Aww.
16:27:15 <Robert> Stupid non-standard standards.
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16:27:25 <tcn> just comment out the offending line :)
16:28:28 <tcn> what's your OS, robert?
16:28:30 <Robert> Lazy. I'll get it pre-compiled from apt later ;)
16:28:56 <Robert> None. Well... at least nothing that I'm going to tell you about!
16:29:06 <Robert> http://robert.zizi.org/ for my project.
16:29:08 <Robert> +s
16:31:19 <tcn> well, dinner time
16:31:24 <Robert> OK, see you
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23:41:14 <a7r_> hey
23:41:41 <serg> hi
23:45:01 <a7r_> what's going on?
23:45:41 <serg> having trubble w/ HP4020i CD-R in WinXP :(((
23:46:17 <serg> and hacking old DOS accounting database
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