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08:18:37 <thin> heh
08:18:51 <thin> when i get on i always whois for my fave people :P
08:19:06 <mur> hmm
08:19:25 <thin> mur: howdy forth newbie
08:19:39 <thin> i440r: wake up
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08:21:44 <thin> wow
08:21:46 <thin> :D
08:21:46 <mur> hmm you coudl have worm as nick name oOO3o
08:21:54 <thin> howdy mrreach :D
08:21:59 <MrReach> hihi!
08:22:15 <I440r> no
08:22:20 <I440r> Zzz.z..... Snort!
08:22:27 <I440r> hi mrreach "_
08:23:10 <Robert> Hi all :)=
08:23:14 <MrReach> heh
08:23:18 <thin> i440r:  "_  ??????
08:23:32 <I440r> its a :) but i cant type
08:23:38 <I440r> damned keyboard keeps dodging my fingers
08:23:39 <thin> lol
08:23:42 <MrReach> oh, thought you had inhaled a fly
08:23:55 <thin> "_ is emoticon for inhaling a fly? :)
08:24:10 <MrReach> had to make SOMETHING up to understand it
08:24:15 <thin> <bleep> "_ <bleep>
08:26:56 <MrReach> I440r: up to more on signals?
08:28:32 <I440r> sure :)
08:28:37 <I440r> more ideas ?
08:28:53 <MrReach> yes, actually
08:29:17 <MrReach> wanted to compare/contrast signal handling with the way that TCL handles events generally
08:29:17 <I440r> :)
08:30:18 <MrReach> with TCL it's _possible_ to handle program flow procedurally, but ...
08:30:53 <MrReach> it is designed around an "event que" that makes program development a dream
08:31:41 <MrReach> there are many things that can create an event
08:32:06 <MrReach> and when an event of specific type occurs, a script can be specified to handle it
08:32:19 <thin> "que"
08:32:22 <thin> or "queue" ?
08:32:38 <MrReach> this includes a file handle becoming readable/writable, socket connections, etc
08:32:55 <MrReach> queue, of course, but can never remember how that's spelled
08:33:44 <MrReach> the beauty of it is that when the GUI is loaded under Win32 or XWin, it's simply more events to handle
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08:35:33 <MrReach> but building an elegant interface for such a beast might be difficult in Forth
08:39:38 <I440r> mrreach the problem is that you have all sorts of event messages being passed arround all over the place between 238496523849 different processes in windows
08:39:58 <I440r> you dont have a "kernel" you have 29378465927843659 pieces parts of a kernel all sending messages to each other all over the place
08:40:04 <I440r> sort of like how gcc compiles :P
08:40:29 <MrReach> actually, they all run in the same thread
08:40:36 <MrReach> one at a time
08:42:22 <MrReach> looks like SARS is totally out of control
08:45:35 <gilbertdeb> wha? the disease?
08:45:43 <gilbertdeb> or a new virus?
08:45:43 <MrReach> yes
08:45:57 <gilbertdeb> why are more people in china dead?
08:46:02 <MrReach> the disease ... and a newish virus
08:46:13 <MrReach> no, raging through Toronto
08:46:47 <MrReach> they can't quarantine as fast as the infections are occuring
08:50:32 <MrReach> at least it has a relatively low mortality rate ... 2-4%
08:50:52 <MrReach> that's still a hell of a lot of people, though, considering a global infection
08:51:45 <gilbertdeb> global infection is likely.
08:51:49 <gilbertdeb> but hopefully impossible.
08:52:08 <gilbertdeb> the whole global village thing is really good for spreading diseases fast.
08:52:15 <MrReach> yep
08:52:37 <MrReach> and we really don't have good isolation protocols in place
08:52:49 <gilbertdeb> it was unexpected.
08:53:13 <MrReach> untrue ... we've been expecting plagues from china for 20 years
08:53:54 <MrReach> their integrated aquaculture and extremely high population density is perfect for mutating viruses
08:54:28 <gilbertdeb> expecting from china?
08:54:32 <gilbertdeb> only china?
08:54:34 <gilbertdeb> what about india?
08:54:59 <MrReach> Hanta came from the same region, which alerted us to the problem in the early 80s
08:55:11 <mur> africa suplies also many viruses and bacteria (based diseases) because of not reasonable water control (becuase of poorness)
08:55:16 <MrReach> of course ANY country can host a new virus
08:55:24 <gilbertdeb> mur: but they usually contain it.
08:55:30 <gilbertdeb> ebola didn't go anywhere!
08:55:50 <MrReach> but the way they process human fecal material through plants and fish in China makes it much more likely
08:56:29 <mur> china region has lot of movement (even the state has permitted movement quite well) tourism is in much more larger scale in china than in central africa
08:57:03 <mur> warm lands with bad hygiene give better host for new bacteria
08:57:05 <MrReach> africa does not have the integrated, high-density aquaculture
08:57:13 <mur> no
08:58:13 <MrReach> in any case ... we have yet to devlope good isolation systems ... and people are going to die and be miserable for it
08:58:41 <MrReach> heh, I'm HIV+ ... I wonder what type of isolation would be applicable
08:59:02 <gilbertdeb> dead people aren't ever miserable.
08:59:16 <gilbertdeb> simply does not compute ;)
08:59:16 <MrReach> HAHA!
08:59:28 <mur> there shoudl be help for poor people (of africa etc) if water economy was resonable that helped a lot.
08:59:47 <gilbertdeb> mur: that won't solve the disease problems here.
08:59:55 <MrReach> yeah, diptheria really matters much more to them
08:59:57 <mur> very many children die to diarrhorrea. that coudl be fixed with salt-sugar water 
09:00:11 <mur> gilbertdeb no but it helps much more humankind
09:00:18 <gilbertdeb> ah yes it does.
09:00:25 <MrReach> when it comes to disease ...
09:00:31 <MrReach> we really are all in the same boat
09:01:08 <MrReach> a minor mutation in diptheria ... and we have the next SARS or HIV
09:01:38 <MrReach> the only logical answer is to make sure ALL the human population is healthy
09:01:57 <MrReach> and you're still gonna get new stuff every once and again
09:02:46 <gilbertdeb> diseases are clever than the preventers.
09:02:51 <MrReach> did you ever _read_ The Stand ?
09:03:01 <gilbertdeb> no.
09:03:06 <mur> gilbertdeb it is called evolution :)
09:03:36 <MrReach> it's not a matter of clever ... it's a matter of preparedness
09:03:54 <mur> not everythign can be prepared, though
09:03:54 <MrReach> new diseases *WILL* arise
09:04:00 <mur> yes
09:04:04 <gilbertdeb> mur: yes it is. the medicine we attack these diseases with are a little primitive.
09:04:20 <mur> otherwise there woudl be no bacteria. human digesting system depends on bacteria :P
09:04:39 <gilbertdeb> death is not really that bad a thing.
09:04:51 <mur> a decent water economy in africa, clean food and enough and basic healthcare woudl do miracles
09:04:53 <gilbertdeb> humans only fear it because of the discomfort it causes for the living.
09:04:55 <MrReach> ok, given that a new disease arises, can we identify and contain it?
09:05:20 <MrReach> not at present ... but we capable of doing such
09:05:27 <MrReach> just not prepared to
09:05:37 <gilbertdeb> mur: this is harsh, but better health will lead to a population explosion.
09:05:47 <MrReach> oh fooy
09:05:49 <mur> hmm not necessarily
09:05:56 <gilbertdeb> yes it will :D
09:06:05 <MrReach> to have better health requires better education
09:06:13 <mur> many animals and humans do many children _because_ they have to ensure there are younger to take care of older
09:06:17 <mur> that is kind of insurance
09:06:22 <gilbertdeb> MrReach: surely you are not talking of schooling?
09:06:24 <MrReach> better education leads to condom usage (this has been proven)
09:06:32 <mur> and if you cannot be sure how many die, you have to minimise risks
09:06:47 <mur> also, educating women will help a lot in these kind of situations
09:07:04 <gilbertdeb> mur in some societies, having a lot of kids is seen as a great thing.
09:07:24 <gilbertdeb> it was a good solution to the problem of attrition some of those societies suffered.
09:07:43 <gilbertdeb> also the pope is against contraceptive usage MrReach.
09:07:59 <gilbertdeb> lots of simple country folk take him terribly seriously.
09:08:01 <MrReach> for example ... nearly everyone in S. Africa has genital herpes ... the open wounds are what is causing the HIV spread ... they think open wounds are the normal human condition
09:08:28 <MrReach> yes, gilbertdeb, you're talking about labor economies
09:08:33 <mur> yes, but in parts of africa children are insurance when you become old. the attitude education is important. there are many mynths and believements and education helps a lot. and if women are educated that will help a lot poor countries situation
09:09:02 <gilbertdeb> mur it will only be a tiny step.
09:09:10 <mur> large for a start
09:09:25 <MrReach> actually, it would prevent 80% of current disease problems
09:09:25 <mur> providing food and water sounds tiny step but it has great benefits
09:10:02 <gilbertdeb> mur so what do you propose? aid?
09:10:05 <MrReach> just teaching people to dig a well rather than drinking surface water would help enourmously
09:10:25 <gilbertdeb> I am sure they can dig a well.
09:10:26 <MrReach> (and how to keep a well clean)
09:10:28 <gilbertdeb> whats so hard about that?
09:10:31 <MrReach> of course they can
09:10:39 <MrReach> but it never occurs to them to do so
09:10:40 <mur> it is not only that you can dig a hole to ground
09:10:44 <MrReach> or that it's important
09:11:11 <MrReach> no, but it would be a big start
09:11:59 <MrReach> "don't drink surface water"
09:12:01 <gilbertdeb> how is it that it does not occur to them to dig a well?
09:12:08 <MrReach> "don't have sex with unhealthy people"
09:12:18 <gilbertdeb> easier said than done.
09:12:27 <MrReach> "people with bleeding genitalia are unhealthy"
09:12:37 <gilbertdeb> now that. is. correct.
09:12:44 <MrReach> gilbertdeb: because it's easier to dip water out of a stream
09:12:59 <fridge> "people with bleeding genitalia are unhealthy"
09:13:06 <fridge> I'm tempted to use that as my new .sig
09:13:08 <gilbertdeb> then they might be encouraged to boil the water and filter it.
09:13:10 <I440r> hi sorry guys, were getting a satelite tv system in stalled with 4 recievers
09:13:11 <MrReach> "use condoms unless your prepared to have children"
09:13:16 <mur> fridge :)
09:13:24 <I440r> the guy to do the install is here and i had to show him where we wanted everything :)
09:13:37 <mur> MrReach not everyone can afford comdoms 
09:13:40 <MrReach> "don't prepare meat if you have open cuts on your hands"
09:13:45 <I440r> i gotta move some things arround in my room to make space for him, one of the recievers is going in here ":)
09:14:04 <MrReach> mur: yes they can ... and those few who can't can be provided them
09:14:26 <fridge> MrReach: changing life long customs would be pretty hard, best way would just get the kids in schools and teach them from the start
09:14:31 <MrReach> condoms are hella cheap
09:14:40 <mur> sex education is far better in parts of africa than in europe
09:14:46 <mur> it's not tabo
09:14:49 <mur> it cant be
09:14:50 <MrReach> yes, that is true ... what is the alternative?
09:14:59 <mur> if half of population may die to that
09:15:16 * mur woudl like to see "book of life" in west too
09:15:17 <gilbertdeb> fridge: if you start too early, and too often, they won't hear you anymore.
09:15:35 <MrReach> in villages where condoms have been provided, birth rates declined dramatically, so did disease
09:15:48 <gilbertdeb> MrReach: I say the key is television.
09:16:02 <MrReach> TV, Radio, Newspaper
09:16:11 <MrReach> it's not that we don't have the ability
09:16:21 <MrReach> it's that we don't have the desire ... yet
09:16:26 <mur> gilbertdeb radio is more important. tv's aren't as normal in africa
09:16:30 <gilbertdeb> if they spend enough time watching trash on tv, and they get bombarded by enough ads on tv, it will set forth a trend where they'll need to buy the trash they see.
09:16:48 <gilbertdeb> to buy the stuff, they have to work... and it becomes a vicious cycle !
09:17:13 <MrReach> it's funny ... in the little country where the Tibetan monks flooded ... someone started selling cable TV ...
09:17:24 <MrReach> flooded = fled ...
09:17:45 <gilbertdeb> mur so have you been to africa?
09:17:49 <mur> yes
09:17:54 <mur> multiple times
09:17:55 <gilbertdeb> where?
09:18:02 <mur> mainly north africa
09:18:03 <MrReach> now, I saw Tibetan monks praying in orange robes ... and behind them the kids were imitating WWE and bashing each other with chairs
09:18:11 <mur> that is not the worst area i know
09:18:11 <gilbertdeb> mur middle east?
09:18:21 <mur> yes there too
09:18:26 <mur> gilbertdeb and you?
09:18:31 <gilbertdeb> I've been to miami.
09:18:36 <gilbertdeb> umm, I stay in miami :)
09:18:47 <gilbertdeb> i should leave this country sometime.
09:19:11 <MrReach> one doesn't have to go specific regions to understand that something volatile might come from there
09:19:46 <MrReach> one SHOULD travel outside the USA, though, to realize that everywhere is not like here
09:19:57 <gilbertdeb> how long were you in Tibet for?
09:20:12 <MrReach> no, it was a Nova program on PBS
09:20:25 <MrReach> I found it incredibly disturbing
09:20:56 <mur> gilbertdeb if you want to become shocked. take a normal bus (not tourist but regular) that takes you to méxico. then go to outskirts. that is a difference.
09:21:22 <MrReach> I would recommend against that unless you happen to have dark skin
09:21:43 <gilbertdeb> whats wrong with a bus trip to mexico?
09:21:59 <MrReach> dangerous
09:22:20 <MrReach> no so bad in central mexico
09:22:33 <MrReach> but life is not valued in N. mexico
09:22:48 <gilbertdeb> tijuana ?
09:22:57 <MrReach> among others
09:23:33 <MrReach> it's rough country
09:23:41 <MrReach> rough country produces rough people
09:23:50 <MrReach> the same can be said of Alaska
09:24:04 <gilbertdeb> s/rough/tough in alaska
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09:24:15 * MrReach nods
09:24:33 <MrReach> hate to stereotype like that ... but in managing risk one has to
09:25:31 <MrReach> Florida has its own problems, of course
09:25:36 <gilbertdeb> :) 
09:25:41 <gilbertdeb> one word: Fidel!
09:25:52 <MrReach> I've been thinking of making a purchase offer on Cypress Gardens, btw
09:26:43 <gilbertdeb> cypress gardens?
09:27:11 <MrReach> one of the world's best gardens ... closed its doors on Sunday
09:27:24 <MrReach> 800 different plant species
09:27:48 <MrReach> 50-100 different animal species (being sent to zoos)
09:28:07 <MrReach> butterfly house ... the whole bit
09:28:43 <Robert> Wow. What would you do with it, try to attract more visitors? Or just live in the jungle? :)
09:28:54 <MrReach> thought you'd know about it, because Winterhaven isn't very far from Miami
09:29:19 <MrReach> close down most of the services ...
09:29:42 <MrReach> just keep the admission gardens and the B&B open
09:30:06 <mur> available for visitors?
09:30:12 <MrReach> yes
09:30:28 <MrReach> the problem is ...
09:30:57 <MrReach> there's *LOTS* of infrastructure in place ... and the owner is going to want money for all of it
09:31:24 <MrReach> canals, electric boats, 10,000 seat grandstands
09:31:50 <MrReach> when it closed, there were 500 employees
09:32:01 <MrReach> no wonder it wasn't profitable
09:32:45 <MrReach> I can probably make a go of it at $3,000 an acre
09:32:55 <MrReach> probably not at $50,000 per acre
09:33:04 <MrReach> (200 acres altogether)
09:34:22 <mur> $10M woudl be one of price
09:35:05 <MrReach> well, it depends on the terms of the loan and the capacity of the B&B/hotel
09:35:14 <gilbertdeb> lets see, interest rates are pretty low now, so all you need is a good american express card :)
09:36:05 <MrReach> the rates would be fairly high ... a business loan as much as a mortage, although fairly well sucured
09:36:19 <MrReach> maybe 8-9%
09:36:32 <MrReach> sucured=secured
09:36:33 <gilbertdeb> and you think it'll turn a profit?
09:36:54 <MrReach> I can see serious problems in how it was run
09:37:11 <MrReach> animal care is incredibly expensive
09:37:23 <MrReach> they did water sports shows
09:38:13 <MrReach> in fact, their most notable image in 13 water skiers stacked in a pyramid ... that image is known nationally ... they invented that
09:39:01 <MrReach> a 30 bed B&B should be capable of paying for the grounds keeping
09:39:26 <MrReach> anything else is butter
09:40:26 <gilbertdeb> assuming full occupancy?
09:40:44 <MrReach> it's one of the top 5 places in the USA to get married
09:40:53 <gilbertdeb> hehehe.
09:40:53 <MrReach> 90% occupancy
09:40:58 <gilbertdeb> and I haven't heard of it.
09:41:05 * gilbertdeb should leave the house more often.
09:41:09 <MrReach> did you get married recently?
09:41:48 <gilbertdeb> If I left the house more often, I might have.
09:41:53 * MrReach laughs
09:46:36 <MrReach> http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=13&x=269&y=1936&z=17&w=1
09:49:39 <gilbertdeb> I wonder if I can see my house from that.
09:49:52 <MrReach> probably
09:49:59 <MrReach> I can see mine
09:51:42 * mur cant :)
09:54:33 <gilbertdeb> they are old photos!
09:54:40 <MrReach> some are
09:54:43 <MrReach> some aren't
09:54:47 <gilbertdeb> I was gonna say that was a terribly powerful spy cam.
09:55:12 <MrReach> heh, they aren't real time, silly
09:55:31 <mur> well well.. but some other hrmm instances can use satellites to do that real time..
09:55:46 <MrReach> yep
09:55:46 <gilbertdeb> but with so much zoom?
09:56:06 <MrReach> in 1972, I remember my dad pointing at the TV
09:56:07 <mur> even better
09:56:50 <MrReach> where the news was showing satellite images of Gerald Ford climbing out of a limosine at the Kremlin
09:57:04 <MrReach> you could clearly see his bald head
09:57:12 <MrReach> and that was in '72
09:57:50 <MrReach> I was like 4 years old
09:58:06 <mur> goign out now
09:58:08 <mur> see you later
09:58:17 <MrReach> be well, mur
09:58:29 <Robert> Bye
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10:24:19 <MrReach> http://www.cypressgardens.com/noframe/photos/images/DSCN1113.jpg
10:24:40 <MrReach> oh, hell, there's a waterslide
10:26:00 <gilbertdeb> Pyramid and 2 flagbearers.
10:26:22 <MrReach> yep
10:26:35 <MrReach> want the index page?
10:26:47 <gilbertdeb> they hid it didn't they?
10:26:57 <MrReach> only the main page
10:27:14 <MrReach> if you go to yahoo's "other results from this site" you can see other stuff
10:27:45 <gilbertdeb> hmmm. the pictures I see here look a bit like lion country safari in w. palm beach
10:28:07 <MrReach> haha!
10:30:42 <MrReach> I couldn't possibly pay fair market for this and make a profit
10:32:44 <MrReach> no wonder he hasn't had any offers
10:32:44 <gilbertdeb> get rid of the animals and make it a real garden.
10:32:47 <gilbertdeb> the veggy left will love you for that.
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10:43:07 <I440r> hi tgunr 
10:43:08 <I440r> wb mrreach
10:43:14 <I440r> im sort of only semi here atm
10:43:20 <MrReach> yep
10:43:27 <MrReach> installs are a bitch
10:49:27 <tgunr> i just woke up
10:49:51 * MrReach offers tgunr some thick coffee
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10:50:29 <tgunr> yes, the pot is on, i was up till 5am and now finally have nested loading in Open Firmware, yea
10:50:52 <MrReach> heh
10:50:54 <tgunr> it has been bugging me for about 5 years
10:51:06 <gilbertdeb> so whats the answer?
10:51:08 <gilbertdeb> 42 ?
10:51:09 <gilbertdeb> :)
10:51:19 <gilbertdeb> j/k
10:51:46 <tgunr> anyone else here using emacs for forth editing?
10:52:09 <tgunr> I would like to share some forth-mode code
10:52:12 <MrReach> hell no
10:52:27 <MrReach> might want to ask in c.l.f
10:52:37 <MrReach> or just post it
10:56:12 <gilbertdeb> ah. time to pass out.
10:56:22 <gilbertdeb> 24 hr uptime exceeded.
10:56:27 <MrReach> sleep well
10:56:34 <gilbertdeb> g'day.
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10:56:44 <tgunr> did you go look up on jobs.apple.com?
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11:24:08 <thin> all those who were talking about SARS & china read this:
11:24:09 <thin> http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99feb/germs.htm
11:32:47 <thin> mrreach: you there? :)
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11:36:08 <tgunr> interesting reading
11:36:25 <thin> yep
11:40:20 <tgunr> ...theory that human homosexuality might result from a "manipulation" of a host by a germ with its own agenda. 
11:40:30 <tgunr> thinks an intersting theory!
11:41:58 <thin> yeah
11:42:08 <thin> it's been done on smaller organisms actually
11:42:25 <thin> there's even this parasite that changes the sex of these small bugs
11:43:47 <tgunr> so all we have to do is nuke all the bacteria and viruses and we become immortal!
11:44:49 <fridge> welcome to the world of tomorrow!
11:45:57 <tgunr> but I still have to do my taxes :(
11:47:09 <thin> we depend on bacteria to digest our food
11:47:54 <thin> we're also filled with fungus
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11:48:03 <sifbot> Type sifbot: <forth code here> (or /msg sifbot <forth code here> to play in private)
11:48:04 <thin> it grows throughout our entire body
11:48:21 <thin> sifbot: get lost
11:48:22 <sifbot> thin:   Word not found: get  
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11:52:32 <Herkamire> *#$#& ISPs
11:52:57 <Herkamire> but (after almost 3 hours) I'm online again!
11:55:51 <mur> welcome Herkamire
11:57:12 <Herkamire> I'm 100% moved.
11:57:17 <Herkamire> it's beautiful here
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12:16:47 <thin> you moved to cypress gardens? ;)
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12:20:22 <Herkamire> thin: not quite :) but I have a huge room with 6 windows two of which are big skylights
12:20:29 <Herkamire> I can hear the birds outside
12:20:35 <Herkamire> it's sunny
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13:55:56 <ramnull> How long do you guys think is a practical length for a filename? 32 characters?
13:56:23 <ramnull> I see alot of people using a full 256 chars, but that seems a bit excessive for a filename.
13:58:46 <fridge> yeah
13:58:53 <fridge> 32 is very reasonable
13:59:39 <fridge> I think iso9660 says 31 is the maximum allowed for its format
13:59:52 <ramnull> Just checking.
14:00:13 <ramnull> Making some simple file utils for IsForth.
14:00:16 <fridge> so I like to keep it under that otherwise you have to resort to trickery to make the cd work
14:01:08 <ramnull> Suppose I could have "isofile" and "nixfile" created depending on the context.
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16:07:06 <Speuler> tach
16:12:38 <Speuler> a bashforth benchmark which takes 7.8 sec under debian, runs in 5.5 sec under gentoo...
16:12:59 <MrReach> bye, take care folks
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16:13:29 <Speuler> that's about 30% quicker
16:15:22 <Speuler> jesus ...
16:15:33 <Speuler> gforth comparison:
16:15:43 <Speuler> real    0m3.494s (gentoo)
16:15:51 <Speuler> real    0m12.541s (debian)
16:16:07 <Speuler> but that's v5.0 vs v6.1
16:22:26 <Klaw> how about freebsd
16:22:32 <Klaw> show some love
16:22:48 <Speuler> haven't got that here
16:23:09 <Klaw> no love.
16:23:49 <Speuler> actually, the one machine where bsd was running on runs linux now
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16:34:56 <futhin> klaw: i am!
16:34:59 <futhin> i'm aLL ABOUT LOVE
16:37:43 <futhin> if u ignore the monster, he grows, he becomes bigger and stronger and quicker and cuter
16:37:52 <futhin> WORDDD
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16:45:51 <Klaw> cuteness inverse proportion to age and size
16:46:12 <Klaw> erp.
16:46:46 <Klaw> my brain is fried as a dead armadillo on a texas highway in mid-july
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17:03:48 <Robert> Neat
17:04:00 <Robert> For a not-so-serious page with no contents, that is :)
17:04:05 <futhin> robert: how should i categorize people?
17:04:12 <Robert> Hm?
17:04:17 <futhin> how should i categorize the channel members (if at all) ?
17:04:36 <futhin> don't you worry, i'll be adding content
17:04:41 <Robert> :)
17:04:47 <futhin> i was just busy but i'll have some freetime for the next few days
17:04:48 <Robert> I don't know.. just list us.
17:04:57 <futhin> most of which i'll be spending with books
17:05:01 <futhin> like atlas shrugged
17:05:34 * futhin is a devour of books.  all books fear!
17:05:47 <futhin> i start and read until i stop
17:06:11 <futhin> most people are pussies, they read in the evenings or something :P
17:06:57 <Robert> I'm a multitasking boy.
17:07:36 <Robert> 5 minutes of reading text 1, 5 minutes of reading text 2, 5 minutes of reading text 3, 30 minutes of IRC, etc.
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19:02:06 <ramnull> What's up?
19:03:07 <ramnull> Hey I got a question.  If I do "create fooTable " do I have to recreate/recompile the entire table everytime I add or remove an entry?
19:03:56 <ramnull> Or can I just allot x amount of space for the table and add/delete stuff as long as I stay within that space?
19:04:10 <Robert> Yes.
19:04:24 <Robert> It's just like allocating space on the heap in any other language.
19:04:43 <ramnull> Gotcha.
19:04:47 <Robert> You get a memory block, and as long as you stay within it, nobody will bother you :)
19:06:26 <ramnull> I can just go "create footable 256 allocate 0 , " and then take it from there.
19:07:47 <Robert> Hmm.. not allot?
19:08:32 <ramnull> Your right, allot would be better.
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21:35:24 <Klaw> where did chuck go?
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21:42:10 <Klaw> http://www.strangegizmo.com/forth/ColorForth/msg00879.html
21:42:12 <Klaw> well i guess so
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