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03:46:04 <serg> hi folks
03:46:12 <serg> hi folks !
03:46:30 <Robert> Hi :)
03:46:34 <serg> how can i get built-in help in irssi ?
03:46:47 <Robert> /help
03:47:08 <serg> nothing (typed in chan)
03:47:34 <Robert> Check window 1.
03:47:39 <serg> how ?
03:47:41 <Robert> Press Escape, then 1.
03:47:55 <Robert> Or Alt+1 (at the same time) works in some terminals.
03:48:01 <Robert> /win 1  also works.
03:48:40 <Robert> Hint, pressing Escape and then 'a', will get you to the next window in which something has happend.
03:49:12 <serg> aha ! not showing a hint how 2 get help is lame :)))
03:49:25 <serg> i'll say it 2 irssi authors :(
03:50:06 <Robert> Hehe.
03:50:18 <Robert> Well, why not read the introduction to irssi? :)
03:50:20 <Robert> www.irssi.org
03:54:21 <serg> how can i keep running progs across logout ? (i often go up/down, testing hardware)
03:55:23 <Robert> Use screen.
03:55:38 <Robert> When you log in to my computer, run "screen".
03:55:44 <Robert> Then you get a new shell.
03:55:50 <Robert> Now run the program you want.
03:56:15 <Robert> If you want to disconnect, press ctrl+a then d, and type "exit".
03:56:50 <Robert> If you did this (or if you're disconnected), the next time you login, you type: "screen -x"
03:56:55 <Robert> And you will return to that program.
03:57:17 <serg> will try now
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03:58:29 <serg> re from screen
03:58:38 <serg> now ctrl+a d exit ?
04:00:19 <serg> i'm back - tested succesfully !!
04:14:20 <serg> z
04:17:48 <Robert> Hi.
04:18:02 <Robert> Nice :)
04:18:14 * Robert was having some breakfast.,
04:21:19 <serg> Serg is having half-dead dvd-rom :(((
04:23:42 * Robert isn't having any DVD :)
04:27:48 <serg> here some game magazines have DVD instead of CD
04:28:17 <serg> and one good beginner's Linux distro is on DVD
04:40:04 <serg> z
04:48:27 <serg> i'll IRC from local host :))
04:48:39 <serg> switching screens eats traffic :((
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05:10:13 <Robert> Hi Kitanin :)
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05:50:24 <Robert> Hi.
05:50:30 <Serg_Penguin> hi :)
05:51:26 <Serg_Penguin> i didnt code from winterval, damn ! do u have some ideas 2 code, tiny, not OSes ?
05:51:46 <Robert> A nice little game? :)
05:51:52 <Serg_Penguin> yeah !
05:52:36 <Serg_Penguin> turn-based or real-time ?
05:52:53 * Serg_Penguin is biased towards former
05:53:30 <Robert> Hehe..
05:53:32 <Serg_Penguin> or kinda like Zork, utilizing Forth interpreter :)
05:53:46 <Robert> Port SMB to Forth!
05:53:54 <Serg_Penguin> SMB ?
05:54:26 * Serg_Penguin hopes not Samba =8-{Z}
05:54:52 <Robert> Super Mario Brothers!
05:55:13 <Serg_Penguin> hmm...
05:55:26 <Serg_Penguin> platformer ?
05:57:23 <Robert> Yeah
05:58:13 <Serg_Penguin> i'd better write Prehistorik 2003 :)
05:58:30 <Serg_Penguin> Preh 2 is my favorite platformer
05:59:55 <Serg_Penguin> but generally i dislike them
06:00:12 <Robert> I just love SMB, but not many other ones.
06:00:20 <Serg_Penguin> i loved pre2 4 it's endless secrets :)
06:01:23 <Serg_Penguin> how much does it weight ? what about ripping gfx/levels - will one complain ?
06:03:07 <Robert> Heh.. no idea.
06:03:10 <Robert> Probably :P
06:04:43 <Serg_Penguin> for what do u love it ?
06:05:06 <Serg_Penguin> btw, what is 'port' w/o original gfx or levels ?
06:05:34 <Robert> Heh, how would I know? :P
06:05:40 <Robert> I just...like it.
06:05:43 <Robert> Might just be nostalgy.
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06:28:32 <Robert> Hi
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07:18:56 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all..will be brief
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07:19:39 <Robert> Hey
07:19:45 <Robert> tathi & TheBlueWizard :)
07:19:53 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Robert :)
07:19:56 <TheBlueWizard> hiya tathi
07:20:02 <tathi> :) hey hey
07:20:53 <tathi> I haven't done any forth in so long...
07:21:56 <Robert> Niether have I, but don't worry, my Faith(tm) is still strong.
07:22:51 <TheBlueWizard> : do-forth job" Forth" find work be-happy ;     tathi do-forth
07:22:52 <TheBlueWizard> :)
07:22:59 <tathi> heh
07:23:16 * TheBlueWizard didn't know Faith is trademarked
07:23:32 <tathi> I was snowed in yesterday, so I did start rewriting my forth to have longer names
07:23:38 <Robert> www.whitehouse.org :)
07:23:43 <Robert> Department of Faith!
07:23:56 <tathi> but then I found this car-racing game that I started writing in C, and got distracted by working on that :P
07:24:37 <TheBlueWizard> Robert: you're having Faith in Bush?  For economy recovery?
07:24:48 <TheBlueWizard> heh
07:25:02 <Robert> Err..right.
07:25:14 <Robert> I'm happy it's not my country he's ruining :P
07:26:46 <TheBlueWizard> lol...some would disagree...for example, the deficit is skyrocketing now...I'm a deficit hawk (meaning I don't want to see a big deficit, except during Real War (tm))
07:28:52 <tathi> perhaps we should shoot him
07:31:34 <TheBlueWizard> lol...but let's wait until he is finished eating Saddam and Osama bin Laden...quite a greasy messy job that he needs to do first ;)
07:32:31 <Robert> Well... if he can make a public enemy, he could surley make them disappear!
07:33:46 <TheBlueWizard> lol....he doesn't have to make public enemies....he just have a mano a mano with them ;)
07:35:10 <Robert> Mano a mano?
07:35:38 <TheBlueWizard> face to face
07:35:43 <TheBlueWizard> man to man
07:36:45 <Robert> Maybe the problem is that there are too few of the public enemies :)
07:37:45 <TheBlueWizard> I say there are a lot of public enemies....just that most of them are hidden :)
07:44:21 <TheBlueWizard> gotta go...bye all
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08:23:13 <Kitanin> mailing*
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11:38:50 <Speuler> hi
11:40:22 <Robert> Hi :)
11:41:03 <Speuler> anyone interested in my "new" project :  forth as bash script ?
11:41:23 <Speuler> t'is well on the way :)
11:42:21 <I440r> i was going to write a forth interpreter in bash and then write a bash interpreter in forth and have them do battle with each other :)
11:42:30 <Speuler> excerpt:  function next {
11:42:30 <Speuler>    w=$ip
11:42:30 <Speuler>    ip=$(($ip+1))
11:42:30 <Speuler>    xt=${m[$w]}
11:42:30 <Speuler>    ${m[$xt]}
11:42:31 <Speuler> }
11:43:15 <Speuler> function branch {
11:43:15 <Speuler>    ip=$((ip+${m[$ip]}))
11:43:15 <Speuler> }
11:43:47 <Speuler> t'is of course a fun project
11:44:11 <Robert> For insane people.
11:44:17 <Speuler> thank you
11:44:25 <I440r> :)
11:45:46 <Speuler> function code {
11:45:48 <Speuler>    set $1=$dp  
11:45:48 <Speuler>    shift
11:45:48 <Speuler>    primitive
11:45:48 <Speuler>    for word in $*
11:45:48 <Speuler>    do
11:45:49 <Speuler>       push $word
11:45:52 <Speuler>       comma
11:45:53 <Speuler>    done
11:45:57 <Speuler> }
11:49:39 <Speuler> bashforth rulez
11:49:43 <onetom> ive also started such a beast
11:50:01 <Speuler> ok. shall me merge ?
11:50:04 <onetom> those times when futhin was also here
11:50:19 <onetom> Speuler: no, it was just a dumb hack
11:50:32 <onetom> Speuler: tho my awkforth worked afair..
11:50:41 <Speuler> onetom: anything working yet ?
11:50:51 <onetom> ?
11:51:19 <Speuler> any components of your bashforth functional ?
11:51:40 <onetom> no
11:51:48 <onetom> ive dropped it
11:51:51 <Speuler> ah
11:51:57 <onetom> it was even more terrible than awkforth :)
11:51:58 <Speuler> virtual machine more or less works here
11:52:07 <Speuler> got both stacks
11:52:34 <Speuler> lsat change rendered it partly non-functional again
11:52:36 * onetom is ill. he feels bad.
11:52:36 <Speuler> last
11:55:50 <Speuler> if it's microbe-caused, have a few beer for desinfection
11:57:51 <Robert> 20:55:55 < shapr> I heard someone in #debian ask if german was the official language of finland.
11:57:54 <Robert> Hah.
11:58:05 <Robert> Now THAT shows how well-educated you are.
11:59:15 <Speuler> depends. after all, french and dutch (don't tell a belgian:) are the official languages of belgium
11:59:33 <Speuler> or french and english of canada
12:00:17 <Speuler> if someone never heard of a language "finish", one may conclude that.
12:00:37 <Speuler> because their currency were "mark" and "penning"
12:00:46 <Speuler> finmarks, ok
12:01:35 <Speuler> (german currency was "mark" and "pfennig")
12:01:52 <onetom> Speuler: heh, thx
12:02:48 <Speuler> onetom: why, was it you who asked ?
12:13:08 <Speuler> I440r: ok. works again. want a copy of bashforth
12:13:09 <Speuler> ?
12:13:37 <Speuler> or wanna wait till it has been developed a bit further ?
12:14:16 <I440r> sure :)
12:14:23 <I440r> wanna email it to me ?
12:14:26 <Speuler> email to ?
12:14:30 <I440r> i440r mailcity com
12:14:37 <I440r> inject the missing bits :)
12:15:44 <Speuler> btw, my string stack lib is pretty usable now
12:16:03 <I440r> cool - whats a string stack ?
12:16:05 <I440r> heh
12:16:45 <Speuler> s" foo" push$    s" bar" push$   swap$   2 split$  rot$   merge$  ...
12:17:04 <Speuler> uses dynamic mem
12:17:13 <Speuler> keeps reference counters per string
12:17:17 <I440r> what applications would use it ?
12:17:22 <Speuler> (for dup$ etc)
12:17:40 <Speuler> free$ releases unused string memory
12:18:09 <Speuler> i did an example add$  (bignum calculation) with it
12:18:25 <Speuler> can add two numbers of 1000000 digits each :)
12:19:29 <Speuler> also right$ left$ mid$  in there
12:19:37 <Speuler> positive and negative indici
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12:19:46 <Speuler> jsut as with split$
12:20:17 <Speuler> reverse$  translate$
12:20:25 <Speuler> and some more
12:20:31 <Speuler> general purpose
12:21:14 <Speuler> gone pheeding me
12:21:19 <Speuler> l8er
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19:19:22 <Speuler> 'morning
19:22:25 <Herkamire> mornin
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23:36:58 <Serg_Penguin> http://www.rolemancer.ru/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1591
23:37:04 <Serg_Penguin> oops
23:45:15 <Jaster> Lots of .ru-jibberish ;)
23:55:21 <Serg_Penguin> good RPG site :)
23:56:07 <Serg_Penguin> i just mispasted 2 MIRC instead of Opera
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