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02:56:56 <Robert> Hi Serg
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04:01:10 <mur> i have font which includes deluxe
04:03:39 <deluxe> hello mur. already woken up? ;-)
04:04:10 <mur> yes
04:04:17 <mur> i guess
04:04:24 <mur> deluxe, do you run linux and x?
04:04:34 <deluxe> aha
04:04:46 <deluxe> why?
04:04:46 <mur> murr.host.sk/kuvat/maisema.gz
04:04:59 <mur> it is a interactive landscape i made last night before going to sleep :)
04:07:15 * deluxe thinks his desktop is too slow
04:07:31 <mur> it is not desktop
04:07:41 <mur> it is small X applictaion
04:07:44 <mur> 70 KB
04:07:53 <mur> mostly graphics
04:08:57 <deluxe> i'll try it on a bigger machine, ok?
04:09:07 <mur> uhm
04:09:10 <mur> i run 166 mhz
04:09:14 <mur> it runs fine  on it
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10:58:52 <deluxe> hello silent
10:59:24 <mur> thank you
11:00:24 <deluxe> hey mur!
11:00:33 <mur> i was playing monopoly
11:00:40 <deluxe> what for actually?
11:00:43 <mur> it is extra fun with fixed coient
11:00:49 <mur> gtk one
11:00:56 <mur> we fixed the net game a bit
11:00:57 <mur> :)
11:01:01 <mur> want to play?
11:22:10 * deluxe is 98% in work mode
11:22:44 <deluxe> mur: thx for the offer, though
11:23:04 <mur> :)
11:23:11 <deluxe> mur: you know jazzmatazz?
11:23:17 <mur> no
11:23:58 <deluxe> it's club sound, quite decent... ;-)
11:24:13 <mur> you listen to it now?
11:25:29 <deluxe> didn't hear that for ages, but sometimes i remember the refrain of a song
11:26:56 <deluxe> ain't no time to play
11:27:10 <deluxe> gotta work, everyday
11:27:20 <mur> how long?
11:27:52 <deluxe> i think the cited song is called moves
11:28:19 <I440r> hi
11:28:38 <deluxe> hi freak :-)
11:29:23 <deluxe> hi forth freak :-)
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11:32:34 <I440r> again
11:32:59 <mur> i'm going play again
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14:24:58 <Speuler> 'evening
14:25:25 <Robert> Hi.
14:25:46 <Robert> Hmm. I have a feeling my teacher wouldn't appreciate this linked list homework to be written in Haskell.
14:27:57 <Speuler> :)
14:28:08 <Robert> But it's so clean!
14:29:41 <galexand> oh maybe i should learn haskell or ml!
14:31:52 <Robert> :)
14:36:58 <Speuler> ml has a good name too
14:37:05 <Speuler> ocaml comes with debian
14:37:39 <Speuler> user satisfaction seem to be high
14:41:29 <Robert> Hm.
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17:22:28 <mur> hmm
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19:12:53 <Speuler> hi
19:13:15 <Speuler> how's the job doing ?
19:14:56 <I440r> still looking
19:15:07 <I440r> not found anything yet
19:15:16 <I440r> lots of emails sent - no replies
19:17:38 <Speuler> that problems seems to haunt you
19:18:37 <Speuler> i know of a case where you've sent an email, and the recipient said he didn't receive any
19:19:44 <Speuler> running your own smtp server, or using provider's server ?
19:20:36 * Speuler profoundly distrusts providers' smtp servers
19:21:18 <Speuler> with own server, i can at least check the log file
19:25:54 <I440r> no. 
19:26:00 <I440r> no point when im on a dial up
19:28:22 <I440r> brb
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20:08:56 <arke> you know what i like about forth?
20:10:12 <Speuler> couldn't imagine
20:10:38 <arke> fuck you very nicely <--- can be perfectly valid forth
20:11:04 <galexand> : fuck 123 0 ! ;
20:11:25 <Speuler> foot yourself in shoot
20:12:20 <Speuler> "fuck you very nicely" doesn't sound very forthy
20:12:30 <arke> : fuck ." fuck " ; : you ." you " ; : very ." very " ; : nicely ." nicely" ; fuck you very nicely
20:12:30 <Speuler> you nicely very fuck
20:12:43 <arke> you fuck very nicely
20:13:08 <Speuler> : you  ( -- x ) ... ;
20:13:22 <Speuler> : very ( x1 -- x2 ) ... ;
20:13:35 <Speuler> : nicely ( x1 -- x2 ) ... ;
20:13:41 <I440r> brb
20:13:43 <Speuler> : fuck ( x -- )  ;
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20:15:03 <Speuler> : very   much avarage */   ;
20:16:26 <Speuler> "you" is the subject. expressed by x, returned on stack
20:17:26 <Speuler> "very" is modifier  .  quantity expected on stack - even higher quantitiy returned
20:17:58 <Speuler> i correct "nicely". it would be  ( -- x )
20:18:09 <Speuler> and "fuck"  ( x1 x2 -- )
20:19:48 <Speuler> vocabulary yourself     yourself definitions   
20:19:54 <Speuler> : foot  ... ;
20:20:07 <Speuler> ( no "foot" is in "yourself" )
20:20:09 <Speuler> now
20:20:30 <Speuler> forth definitions   : shoot ... ;
20:20:38 <Speuler> yourself foot shoot
20:22:24 <Speuler> i tend to use "verbs" which expect a subject, maybe a modifier, and do the action on those
20:22:45 <Speuler> "nouns" which put something on the stack
20:23:14 <arke> hrm
20:23:36 <arke> somebody should make something where the english language is presented as forth ---- stack oriented
20:24:02 <Speuler> there is some forth poetry around.
20:24:36 <Speuler> and german language has a deeper return stack, compared to english
20:25:10 <arke> german is the best :)
20:25:50 <Speuler> phrases tend to be nested more deeply
20:26:57 <Speuler> if you nest phrases three or four levels deep in english, people will have difficulties to understand
20:27:47 <Speuler> where against it is not unusual to do so in german language
20:29:32 <arke> Speuler: hehe, example?
20:29:35 <arke> for both languages?>
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20:31:16 <Herkamire> arke there is a paper on the internet presenting a forth-like spoken language.
20:31:34 <arke> where?
20:31:38 <Herkamire> someone exploring exactly what I think you're talking about.
20:31:49 <Herkamire> I don't remember. I'll see if I can find it.
20:33:03 <Speuler> german language, which has eveloved from gothic languages, which has influenced a multitude of languages, spoken in the northern part of the continent, forming the lingusitic boundary to roman languages, allows nesting of concepts
20:33:20 * arke gähnt
20:33:26 <arke> ich bin müde
20:33:43 <arke> :'(
20:33:44 <Herkamire> found it :)   http://www.langmaker.com/fith.htm
20:33:52 <arke> Herkamire: thanks!! damke!!
20:35:07 <Herkamire> if I didn't find the name so funny, I might not have been able to find it :)
20:35:29 <arke> :)
20:37:19 <Speuler> Herkamire: nice one. didn't know that one
20:38:21 <Speuler> chinese influences ?
20:41:46 <Herkamire> dono
20:42:17 <Speuler> "men outnumber women four to one"
20:42:20 <Speuler> blast
21:03:23 <Speuler> arke: characters with tremas don't show well on many irc clients
21:03:39 <Speuler> some just cut off the remainder of the line.
21:04:16 <Speuler> arke ghnt
21:04:28 <Speuler> ich bin mde
21:05:15 <Speuler> üügoehnt ?
21:05:32 <Speuler> maede ?
21:05:33 <Speuler> :)
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