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Feh. 08:14:10 --- quit: lament (" cocks || gigantic cocks || slapping me in the face") 08:43:24 --- quit: skylan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:44:14 --- join: skylan (sjh@Riverview106.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 08:49:02 --- quit: Fractal (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:02 --- quit: skylan (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:02 --- quit: Kitanin (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:06 --- quit: Klaw (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:06 --- quit: Robert (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:06 --- quit: ChanServ (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:49:38 --- join: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) joined #forth 08:49:38 --- mode: hogan.freenode.net set +o ChanServ 08:52:44 --- join: skylan (sjh@Riverview106.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 08:52:44 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 08:52:44 --- join: Fractal (klofafwb@h24-77-171-228.ok.shawcable.net) joined #forth 08:52:44 --- join: Klaw (chuck@ip68-4-155-247.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 08:52:44 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h21n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 08:55:21 --- quit: ChanServ (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:55:37 --- quit: Fractal (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:55:39 --- quit: Kitanin (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:55:39 --- quit: Klaw (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:55:42 --- quit: Robert (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:55:42 --- quit: skylan (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:00:27 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h21n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 09:00:27 --- join: Klaw (chuck@ip68-4-155-247.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 09:00:27 --- join: Fractal (klofafwb@h24-77-171-228.ok.shawcable.net) joined #forth 09:00:27 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 09:00:27 --- join: skylan (sjh@Riverview106.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 09:02:07 --- quit: Fractal (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:02:14 --- quit: Klaw (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:02:14 --- quit: Kitanin (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:02:14 --- quit: Robert (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:02:15 --- quit: skylan (hogan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:03:05 --- join: skylan (sjh@Riverview106.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 09:03:05 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 09:03:05 --- join: Fractal (klofafwb@h24-77-171-228.ok.shawcable.net) joined #forth 09:03:05 --- join: Klaw (chuck@ip68-4-155-247.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 09:03:05 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h21n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 09:03:29 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-030tnnashP0337.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 09:27:32 --- quit: Kitanin (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:27:43 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 09:44:10 --- quit: I440r (Excess Flood) 09:44:30 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-030tnnashP0337.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 12:28:34 --- join: Kiara (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 12:28:34 --- quit: Kitanin (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:28:51 --- nick: Kiara -> Kitanin 13:00:19 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 13:17:30 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79408.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 14:06:50 --- join: TheBlueWizard (TheBlueWiz@ip-216-25-202-184.vienna.va.fcc.net) joined #forth 14:06:56 hiya all 14:07:10 re 14:08:25 Hi TheBlueWizard :) 14:08:27 hiya onetom 14:08:30 hiya Robert 14:09:50 my project is pretty much at second milestone...but it is something of a disappointment in itself...but fear not, I believe it would be salvageable 14:12:09 What is it about? 14:13:50 math expression manipulation...I test drove it using a classic identity...and it works! but I found that when the expression gets real large (say, at least two screenful in size), it slows down...then again it's written in Python and it runs on a 166 MHz machine :] 14:15:43 A two screen math expression interpreter by a python program on an old PC computer. That sounds like a _bad_ idea. 14:15:51 interpreted* 14:18:11 not two screen....it is two screenful, like viewing a 160 char long expression (all expressions are in 2D, of course) on a 80x25 terminal, requiring me to scroll it sideway (I figured out how to do it right :))) 14:20:12 in a sense, you're right...but I hoped it wouldn't be so painful til after I hit four screenful in size, but nope...best to translate it to other faster languages such as C or Forth (with various routines heavily optimized, of course)....and I am thinking about merging it into some open source CAS...I'm eyeing yacas as a candidate 14:20:51 the main problem is the enormous amount of internal alloc and dealloc of strings and objects 14:21:58 but at least I got the algorithms to work and it is kinda neat watching the small expressions get arranged and reformed in precise ways :) 14:25:53 Oh, I see... 14:26:24 * Robert was wondering how a two-screen math expression could even be typed by someone sane. 14:27:32 Rob: Trick question. Sane people don't do math that big. :-) 14:28:42 * Kitanin does math that big, though. 14:29:10 hehe....I suppose it would be snappy on a 1 Ghz machine....then again...at least I now have the tools, and if I must, I could create a subexpression, view it to make sure it looks right, then save it (as flat expression), repeat, and later on can combine them using a text editor...not hard 14:30:33 Kitanin: Insane people are needed. 14:30:53 LMAO! 14:31:01 * Kitanin likes to feel needed. 14:31:25 Like we need Saddam.... 14:33:32 So, how complex is your expression manipulator? 14:34:30 it can handle arbitrary standard algebra stuff, plus exponentiation and one argument functions 14:36:01 TheBlueWizard: give us some example expression u tested ur manipulator w 14:36:14 expressionS 14:52:11 hmm...one classic identity I recently played with is the Euler Four Square Identity...expand and then cancel out the terms on the right side of the identity (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EulerFour-SquareIdentity.html) --- sorry for being afk for a moment 14:58:22 --- join: Soap` (~flop@202-0-42-22.cable.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 15:00:48 hiya Soap` 15:07:04 TheBlueWizard: geee! that site rox! 15:07:26 huh? 15:07:41 oh...MathWorld...yeah, it's cool :) 15:11:16 Hmm... It works, but I wonder if it's legal... 15:11:59 what works? 15:12:09 POSTPONE R> 15:12:53 (After a matching POSTPONE >R, of course). 15:12:55 --- join: OrngeTide (orange@65.19.141.250) joined #forth 15:16:22 * Soap` pays attention to the channel 15:16:24 Hi 15:16:30 Hey. 15:18:02 hiya OrngeTide 15:20:09 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-030tnnashP0337.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 15:21:23 Wow. I mentioned his least-favourite word, and I440r shows up. Neat! :-) 15:22:25 * Kitanin berates himself for the gammar in that statement. 15:22:56 hiya I440r!!!!! 15:23:09 tbw! 15:23:13 kit :) 15:23:17 Kitanin: LOL! 15:23:20 you said "postpone" ? 15:23:25 thats a 4 letter word you know 15:23:28 Yep. :-) 15:23:41 * TheBlueWizard laughs really good 15:23:44 hiya. 15:23:46 * I440r thwaps Kitanin with a huge isforth manual 15:23:53 oh yea - there isnt one :P 15:24:24 Well, there's your justification for writing a manual. :-D 15:24:46 :P 15:25:00 you should write your isforth manual in isforth itself... 15:25:08 it could be like a wacky version of postscript:) 15:26:19 lol 15:26:38 --- quit: Kitanin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:28:20 im bored 15:28:20 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #forth 15:28:49 No, wacky would be writing a manual in 4color9Forth1 for a black-and-white printer. 15:29:14 I440r: bored? of what? 15:30:05 of nothing 15:30:08 im very bored of nothign 15:30:10 nothing 15:30:50 --- quit: wossname (":(") 15:31:09 no job. no gf.... 15:31:11 bleh 15:32:10 ouch! 15:32:23 no job??? gee 15:34:24 i should be working on my memory manager code 15:34:27 its almost done 15:34:33 well. its almost written heh 15:34:36 not almost debugged :P 15:36:46 cool tho' 15:37:34 * TheBlueWizard is watching TV news 15:39:50 what news channel ? 15:39:53 i only watch fox 15:40:01 im not interested in the clinton news network 15:41:19 ABC News 15:42:18 I take it you hate CNN (assuming "Clinton News Network" is your way of endering the acronym CNN) 15:42:40 yes 15:42:53 thats exactly what it was during his time in office 15:43:16 they are going down the tubes on the ratings though, people are leaving them in droves to go watch fox news 15:43:18 I see....many news are libral slanted...but at least I get some news 15:43:38 people dont want the liberal bed wetters left wing propoganda, they want "fair and BALANCED" news 15:44:04 problem with the liberal news meida is that they tend to use what used to be called YELLOW journalism 15:44:15 they dont report the news, they try sway public opinion 15:46:23 hehe 15:47:45 fox does it too but to a HUGLY lesser degree. most of what i see of it on fox comes from alan combs - a dempcrat. 15:47:50 one example of what I get "news" is the raid of an apt. in Britian where they found toxic chemicals (ricin), etc....connected with Al-Qaeda 15:48:20 * TheBlueWizard doesn't watch FOX news 15:49:46 yea 15:50:54 --- join: fridge (~meldrum@zipperii.zip.com.au) joined #forth 15:50:55 is ricin the same poison found in red kidney beans ? 15:51:22 a pinhead can hold enough of that stuff to kill ten men. its the poison used to assassinate "gods banker" 15:52:23 don't know much about ricin...though I do know it's quite lethal...."gods banker"? never heard of that phrase 15:52:36 hiya Fractal 15:53:08 it was a name they gave to the vatacans big money guy 15:53:12 it was years and years ago 15:53:15 i forget the details 15:53:39 but they used the same poison thats in red kidney benas on a small pin on the end of an umbrella 15:54:03 is that a KGB plot? 15:54:50 ricin is found int he castor bean. 15:55:04 no - i think it was organized crime related 15:58:45 hmm...ok 16:03:54 would ricin then be present in castor oil? 16:04:48 i doubt it 16:04:56 but one castor bean can kill a child 16:05:48 --- quit: Kitanin (": war postpone peace ; immediate : freedom postpone slavery ; immediate : ignorance postpone strength ; immediate") 16:06:58 a bad use of postpone in the quit msg? :) 16:10:24 --- quit: I440r (Excess Flood) 16:10:41 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-030tnnashP0337.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 16:10:57 hiya I440r again 16:11:43 :) 16:17:45 gotta go...bye all! 16:18:10 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 16:23:31 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 17:21:31 --- quit: skylan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:21:58 --- join: skylan (sjh@Sprint297.tbaytel.net) joined #forth 17:48:43 --- quit: Soap` () 19:04:58 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:05:50 --- join: proteusguy (~username@65.191.88.177) joined #forth 19:08:42 --- join: lament (~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net) joined #forth 20:46:46 hrm.. trying to do something tricky in gcc. how do i pass a literal value through the asm() directive? something like: asm(".long %0" : "=r" (__LINE__)); 21:48:34 --- join: onetom_ (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 21:49:12 --- quit: onetom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:40:20 --- quit: iangreen (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:46:28 --- join: male (~male@cpe-024-033-030-124.midsouth.rr.com) joined #forth 22:46:43 Anyone up? 23:03:21 Nope. 23:03:21 * Robert leaves for school. 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/03.01.20