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Do you know? 07:13:46 No :-/ 07:13:58 Do you meet him on-line? 07:15:09 What do you mean? I only see him here once in a while. 07:15:49 I mean: when does he appear here in active form? 07:16:14 If anyone knows... 07:16:47 I saw him here like 01:00 CET. 07:16:50 Last time. 07:17:04 CET is ??? 07:17:16 +0100 GMT? 07:17:46 Or +0200... don't remember which one that's in winter, and which one that's in the summer. 07:18:00 Where do you live? 07:18:02 I understand only MSK and GMT, which is -0300 MSK :) 07:18:10 Ah, OK. 07:18:26 Well... I guess Moscow isn't too far from here. 07:18:32 That is - in time zones. 07:18:36 Maybe 1 or 2 hours. 07:18:47 Do you use daylight saving? 07:18:56 Yes. 07:19:29 Hmm... Then I don't know if GMT is always -3 hours from you. 07:19:35 But today here is winter. 07:19:38 Here it is either -1 or -2 hours. 07:20:04 Now here it is 6:20 pm 07:21:01 ...or something like this, my "time" is relative... 07:21:38 My watches is to measure relatively short intervals :) 07:22:57 16:20 here. 07:23:11 So, I guess you're 2 hours ahead of CET. 07:23:38 In any case, if Fractal appears about 1:00 CET, here it is 3:00 night. 07:23:58 I don't like such a late assemblies. 07:26:22 And where does he live? 07:26:40 Maybe I could catch him in the morning. 07:27:59 --- part: ASau left #forth 07:28:04 --- join: ASau (~asau@158.250.48.197) joined #forth 07:30:41 well, time to go on... 07:30:53 See you later again. 07:31:01 --- quit: ASau () 07:37:46 he should check the logs 07:47:11 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4347.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 07:47:46 Hoi ;) 07:49:14 tach robert 08:06:38 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-034tnnashP0437.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 08:19:55 --- join: neobrat (~~jeff_tkd@h-64-105-21-62.DNVTCO56.covad.net) joined #forth 08:20:10 'lo all 08:21:25 --- quit: proteusguy ("Client Exiting") 08:22:06 hi neobrat 09:22:41 --- join: I440r_ (~mark4@sdn-ap-033tnnashP0373.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 09:22:58 Hi. 09:24:26 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:31:54 --- quit: neobrat () 09:55:50 --- quit: Robert ("I'll be right back. Don't cry.") 09:57:49 --- join: Robert (~Robert@robost86.tsps1.freenet6.net) joined #forth 10:32:59 --- quit: I440r_ ("Reality Strikes Again") 11:15:40 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-033tnnashP0373.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 11:25:37 :) 11:25:55 yaa 11:26:10 Hey 1tom. 11:26:13 How are things? 11:26:21 me tired 11:26:26 :/ 11:26:29 Sleep. 11:26:36 i wrote a letter 2 mplayer-dev-eng again 11:26:43 no replies yet 11:27:04 shall i send it 2 u? ur email address? 11:27:34 Nah, it's OK. 11:28:27 what is the devel status of mplayer? it crashed a lot for me 11:28:44 on ppc? 11:29:10 yes 11:29:16 ive just helped al3x 2 buy a g3 11:29:31 mostly when I had it play multiple files 11:29:38 he did some missing colorspace conversion routines 11:29:54 and fixed several endianness related issues 11:32:07 so is it stable on x86? 11:32:14 going to try add block files to isforth 11:32:16 bleh 11:32:20 i never liked block files 11:32:43 block "files" ?... 11:33:14 you dont know what a block file is ? 11:33:22 heh i wish i was that lucky :P 11:33:52 ah, nm 11:35:16 I440r: you should write an application in isforth. like a web browser 11:35:27 or a news reader 11:35:41 herk a web browser is planned 11:35:57 why do you think im going to all the trouble of writing sockets stuff for it :) 11:36:37 i cant even remember the dimensions of a block any more heh 11:36:44 1024 11:36:49 bytes 11:36:52 i know its 1024 bytes 11:36:58 whats the x and y sizes ? 11:37:18 it's 1 dimentional. what are you talking about 11:37:19 try 2 figure it out.. 11:37:42 2^10 = 2^(log2x + log2y) 11:37:53 erm no its not, its 2 dimensional :P 11:38:29 you're 2 dimentional 11:38:33 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:38:38 erm no im 3 dimensional :P 11:38:41 see - your wrong again! 11:38:43 heh 11:38:48 heh :) 11:38:53 5+5: 32x32 11:39:02 4+6: 16x64 11:39:17 3+7: 8x128 11:39:23 so what do u think? 11:39:31 was it hard 2 find it out? 11:40:23 ... 4x256 2x512 1x1024 11:40:31 I have seen 64*16 chars... 11:40:53 64 lines of 16 chars each ? 11:41:05 i dont think so, more likely 16 lines of 64 chars each :P 11:41:07 sure 11:42:42 you are talking about source code in blocks? 11:42:54 --- quit: Robert (Remote closed the connection) 11:43:10 I'd wrap it at 40 or so chars 11:44:43 or maybe I'd just wrap it at half the screen width 11:45:29 I'd love to have an editor that would show the definition of the word I had my cursor over (somewhere else on the screen) 11:51:58 --- join: Robert (~Robert@h236n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 11:52:26 --- quit: Robert (Client Quit) 11:53:39 --- join: Robert (~Robert@h236n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 11:54:44 --- nick: onetom_ -> onetom 11:57:22 Herkamire: the lines below the 16th line could b used for that purpose 11:59:57 ive got absolutely no idea what words are needed in a block word set 12:00:03 grr /me goes and googles 12:04:32 I440r: have a look @ enth+flux.. 12:34:34 --- join: lament (~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net) joined #forth 12:50:12 --- quit: Loke3 () 13:59:46 --- quit: Herkamire ("leaving") 14:00:22 --- quit: lament ("mental mantle") 14:01:14 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 14:25:55 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp81211.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 14:50:46 how do i make a bigforth program to run from comandline 14:50:54 guess I shouldnt worry 14:50:59 until i have soething to run 14:51:05 heh 14:51:12 why arent you using isforth :P 14:51:14 [~/bigforth]$ ./bigforth ian.fs 14:51:14 Not enough memory! main [~/bigforth]$ 14:51:28 I440r: I dunno. I'm a newbie, isforth doesnt conform ... 14:51:32 if i conform I'll have more to learn from 14:51:40 than jsut isforth source :) 14:51:50 i have no real reason 14:52:15 nono. forth conforms, its everything else that doesnt :) 14:52:26 well 14:52:29 hehe 14:53:15 damnit 14:53:46 i need something to keep me motivated to learn 14:53:49 i just checked out some books 14:54:09 guess i should do some basic math/algebra 14:54:23 i dunno if thats fun though 14:55:54 heh 14:56:16 It is. 14:56:46 Know what? You can make it even funnier. 14:56:50 By using Forth! 14:57:15 Throw away your calculator, and launch your Forth. 14:58:24 I never use a calculator. :/ 14:58:35 if i did, I could use forth :) 15:03:40 Heh. 15:03:53 You don't need a calculator? 15:04:03 * Robert wonders how iangreen does it. 15:04:15 I use my calculator and my pens all the time ;) 15:09:55 what would I need a calculator for? :) 15:10:23 but yah, I can use forth instead of bc from now on 15:10:30 and i launch bc oh, onec every two months 15:10:44 Well... 15:11:07 I often use calculators for electrical, mathematical or computer-related calculations. :) 15:11:18 * Robert has 2 around here. 15:11:26 And of course 'calc' on the computer :) 15:16:29 I never do calculations 15:17:03 :) 15:17:06 Calculations are fun. 15:19:15 true enough 15:19:34 So, start Forthing! 15:19:43 * Robert saw some truly evil code. 15:19:49 http://www.oakland.edu/~maslicke/colorforth/jpeg/index.html 15:19:52 it's not calculating something I have a problem with 15:19:56 That could be used to scare children. 15:19:57 its finding something to calculate 15:20:04 Hm. 15:20:13 Just anything. 15:20:27 scary :) 15:20:51 I wish I knew some more about aerodynamics, that would be funny to code 15:20:56 As it has some practical uses. 15:21:03 "How long can I throw this?" :) 15:23:20 hee 15:25:56 I will read more of this forth book on my way home, hopefully that will give me some ideas that compel me to learn 15:26:02 s/learn/practice 15:30:13 :) 15:30:20 What Forth book are you reading? 16:29:21 beginning forth 16:29:42 or maybe its beginner forth 16:29:43 it's in my room 16:30:23 Paul Chirlian 16:33:34 Okay. 16:33:41 Never read any Forth book. 16:43:59 haha 16:44:14 well, this one was bette than some of the others I could choose from 16:44:26 _Choose_? 16:44:27 Wow. 16:44:32 I've never ever seen one. 16:44:37 its kinda getting me immersed in the way to think 16:44:41 And then you talk about choosing ;) 16:44:49 there were like 7. 16:44:51 at the library. 16:44:53 o_O 16:44:53 :) 16:45:00 My library has books about VB. 16:45:01 chicago public library 16:45:01 And Java. 16:45:04 And HTML. 16:45:07 it's mostly that yes 16:45:13 And 210 other activities for idiots. 16:45:17 hehehe 16:45:20 sweden? 16:45:21 where about? 16:45:25 Yes. 16:45:28 DNA splicing for Idiots. 16:45:32 A little town, near Stockholm. 16:45:36 cool 16:47:00 --- join: lament (~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net) joined #forth 17:09:30 --- join: knoppix (~knoppix@pD950FDC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 17:11:25 hello crew 17:12:08 Hi. 17:12:29 5 min chat is better than nothing hmm? 17:12:51 hello robert 17:13:36 :) 17:13:47 yes i hope 17:19:56 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:30:53 --- nick: knoppix -> xipponk 17:39:01 --- quit: xipponk ("Client Exiting") 17:48:27 --- quit: wossname ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over IRC.") 17:56:53 --- join: Klaw (anonymouse@ip68-4-77-1.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #forth 18:24:34 --- join: Speuler (~Speuler@mnch-d9ba4347.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 18:25:55 'morning 19:16:55 evening 21:11:15 --- join: Loke3 (Loke3@as2-1-1.kt.g.bonet.se) joined #forth 21:24:32 --- join: proteusguy (~username@65.191.88.177) joined #forth 21:49:17 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:56:52 hey robert! thx 4 that great great great grand jpeg decoder code & 4 the page itself! 21:57:36 it has some info on running chucks 4th in bochs 22:09:48 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 22:15:33 --- quit: Klaw () 23:33:09 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 23:52:01 hmm.. iwas thinkin about a simple flux editor 23:52:23 plain text editor (during showering :) 23:52:50 and realized that u can change the name of any definition 23:53:19 & u dont have 2 search&replace all its occurances 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/02.12.20