00:00:00 --- log: started forth/02.12.16 00:10:49 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 00:15:11 --- quit: pyromaniac () 00:15:14 --- join: pyromaniac (~pyromania@202.59.99.234) joined #forth 00:15:30 --- quit: pyromaniac (Client Quit) 00:15:33 --- join: pyromaniac (~pyromania@202.59.99.234) joined #forth 00:16:04 --- part: pyromaniac left #forth 00:59:36 http://www.ynet.com.au/sean/forum.html is back finally 01:01:09 i dislike forums 01:01:15 i like NNTP or Fido 01:01:23 not thats the point here & now.. 01:01:48 but the source of the forum is forth & available 01:02:08 CGI in forth ? good 01:02:38 i would say, veeery good ;) 01:03:09 what about modforth 4r Apache ? 01:03:28 RU man Cherezov wrote entire httpd in Forth 01:04:15 just like many other ppl also did 01:04:35 good :) 01:04:48 gimme some, ill log on 01:05:13 ~paysan ? ... cant recall them now 01:12:56 look at www.forth.org.ru 01:13:16 see `powered by eserv' - logo f his httpd 01:13:22 it's 4r win32 01:15:48 great 01:16:34 looked ? 01:17:43 looking 01:18:31 but cant find the logo 01:19:01 right table column, group of 88x33's 01:19:05 IIRC 01:19:29 * Serg_Penguin has port 80 axed off by firewall 01:20:28 c 01:20:35 see ? 01:20:58 anyway, there is a lot of russian content. 2 much actually :( 01:21:02 see see 01:21:42 RU is quite strong in Forth 01:21:55 ask him 4r transl8 :) 01:23:36 and put link on our chan :) 01:24:02 sure they r strong, but a lot of ppl dont know much about their efforts unfortuantely, because there r not enough english pages :( 01:24:58 so let's everyone in our chan write him :) 01:25:01 u ask! ;) u r the native 01:25:04 put it on topic 01:25:13 i may hellp w/ translate 01:25:17 :)) would make sense 01:25:42 Michael Gassanenko (ggogle 4r him ) wrote alot 2-lingual 01:25:43 eg, ive heard about picforth on their news page 01:25:57 & havent seen it anywhere else 01:26:13 4 = four ~ for 01:26:21 4r = fourr ~~ for :/ 01:31:33 just google 4 forth wrds in .ru domain 01:32:23 or try ya.ru - it searches RU only 01:36:28 z 01:53:06 does babelfish speak .ru? 01:54:00 * Serg_Penguin strikes Ctrl-Alt-Del w/ sledge hammer on XP machine 01:54:19 w/ huge dwarven warhammer 02:33:32 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 03:17:25 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 03:26:34 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 04:13:19 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 04:53:08 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:36:05 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 05:36:21 er hi 05:56:49 I just found the #forth logs 05:57:01 when chuck & J.Fox came online 05:58:17 where ? 05:58:25 i have one 06:03:09 --- quit: lament ("night") 06:04:57 --- quit: Serg_Penguin (forward.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06:06:05 g'day 06:06:40 * Speuler wonders whether "day" is appropriate considering it is still pretty "morning" 06:12:53 Serg_Penguin: http://www.ultratechnology.com/chatlog.htm 06:13:50 --- join: gTs2 (gTs2@patr530-a103.otenet.gr) joined #forth 06:33:25 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 06:40:37 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 06:41:17 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 06:48:12 --- part: gTs2 left #forth 07:01:59 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 07:08:51 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-034tnnashP0465.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 07:13:58 Hey :) 07:14:24 bleh :) 07:18:57 How are things going? 07:19:27 not too bad 07:19:40 I checked some code on fig-uk.org, any idea why many things I find there are so poorly factored? 07:19:46 im still trying to put the finishing touches on my dns code 07:20:03 It really looks more like Pascal than Chuckish Forth code. 07:20:04 but my heart isnt in coding right now.... 07:20:09 they are ? 07:20:26 badly factored code is not just a c thing then i guess 07:20:34 Heh. 07:20:37 forth however encourages good factoring 07:20:39 Pascal ~ C ;) 07:20:42 c doesnt 07:20:48 c strongly discourages it 07:20:54 it IS however up to the coder to listen :P 07:21:27 Well, the thing is that I wonder is if factoring really IS the way to salvation, since so many people seem to avoid it. 07:22:02 trust me. nothing is more difficult to maintain than badly factored code 07:22:24 even a poorly coded program thats well factored is better than a well coded program thats badly factored 07:22:57 who is semtex ? 07:23:03 a person or a bot ? 07:23:17 his idle time keeps resetting but he doesnt respond to messages :P 07:23:18 A Speuler, I think. 07:23:38 Well, I' 07:23:56 Well, I tried rewriting a program using better factoring... it really became alot easier. 07:24:23 it always does 07:24:51 think of it this way. if you write a book and the entire book is a single sentence its not going to be very easy to read is it :P 07:30:55 a ship in the english channel sank with 30 million dollars worth of luxury cars 07:31:07 then another ship crashed into it this weekend :P 07:31:12 lol 07:33:55 Yup... 07:34:05 Those damn incompetent europeans! 07:36:31 btw, IsFault segfaults on a guy's computer... just because he installed some patch that makes the kernel paranoid. 07:36:47 Just in case you want to know ;) 07:36:56 ? 07:37:01 what patch 07:37:06 Er.. not sure. 07:37:07 what does the patch do ? 07:37:28 It makes the kernel become totally paranoid, disallowing "insecure" things. 07:37:33 that helps :P 07:37:57 hrm 07:38:08 i want to know what the patch is 07:40:20 I'll ask. 07:49:05 brb 07:49:10 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 07:51:24 16:56 <@dtterm> grsec 07:51:24 16:56 <@dtterm> grsecurity.org el ng sådant tror jag 07:51:26 Bah. 08:33:33 --- join: gilbertbsd (~knoppix@67.97.122.120) joined #forth 08:34:48 --- quit: Fractal (forward.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08:35:22 --- join: Fractal (tdms@h24-77-171-228.ok.shawcable.net) joined #forth 09:03:33 have u seen sean? ;) 09:04:26 who is sean? 09:04:32 what is sean? 09:04:44 is sean RP? 09:08:11 Hi. 09:17:54 http://www.ynet.com.au/sean/forum.html 09:18:10 ive invited him here 09:20:43 definitely RP. when is he coming over? 09:21:31 he doesnt know yet 09:21:51 we havent scheduled any official meeting time 09:23:29 i think we arent prepared 2 interview him yet 09:23:48 brb 09:23:53 --- quit: Fractal (forward.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:24:32 --- join: Fractal (tdms@h24-77-171-228.ok.shawcable.net) joined #forth 09:38:20 --- quit: Robert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 09:42:21 --- join: Robert (~Robert@h236n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #forth 10:50:48 --- join: NoamTuring (trilluser@ip2-97.vancbc01g01.dialup.ca.telus.com) joined #forth 11:49:33 --- part: NoamTuring left #forth 11:51:33 --- quit: onetom (Remote closed the connection) 12:02:31 --- join: onetom (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 12:24:48 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp82308.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 12:28:22 --- join: gTs2 (gTs2@patr364-a24.otenet.gr) joined #forth 12:28:33 yo 12:29:36 hi 12:32:16 does forth have a minimum requirement as far as proc power is concerned? 12:32:18 i mean 12:32:29 ? 12:32:42 can i use forth as an operating system for a (say) 2MHz machne? 12:33:04 not an existing forth, of course 12:34:01 ? sure 12:35:00 4th is the absolute winner of this category 12:35:32 the only reasonable choice 12:35:43 there is another one 12:35:48 asm? 12:35:53 which is slightly better 12:35:58 but not widely known 12:35:59 but thats not an os 12:36:03 no 12:36:04 nah 12:36:04 rpl 12:36:11 url? 12:36:13 yeah 12:36:22 url? 12:36:23 remote procedure lang? 12:36:27 haha 12:36:29 nononono :) 12:36:33 reverse polish lisp 12:36:34 :) 12:36:37 reverse po.. 12:36:42 nooo 12:36:54 huh? whaddyamean "nooo" 12:37:02 mmm... its equal 2 4th ;p 12:37:20 not really :/ 12:37:21 btw is it interactive? 12:37:25 you bet it is 12:37:40 u must b wrong somewhere... 12:37:41 er "not really" was for the "equal to 4th" 12:37:48 "you bet it is" is for being interactive 12:37:51 but just let me c some specs 12:38:12 shouldn't you ask me first "where does it run on?" ? 12:38:28 should i? 12:38:44 yes... 12:39:03 what does it run on? 12:39:29 the 4* series of hp calculators. 12:39:33 (don't laugh) 12:39:34 ? 12:39:42 & why is it important? 12:40:04 the language? or the fact that it runs on calculators? 12:40:21 http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/docs/programming/rplman.zip 12:40:35 that doc has an explanation why rpl was born 12:40:56 why is it important it is available on a specific hw? 12:41:31 we should measure the lang independently of any implementation, ithink.. 12:41:35 it isn't tied on some specific hardware... 12:41:46 its just that so far it runs only on those. 12:41:56 there is an ide for win32 too 12:42:03 which imitates the calc interface 12:42:12 jfc, is it a word dos? 12:42:14 doc? 12:42:24 html 12:42:28 no wait 12:42:31 it's a normal doc 12:42:34 ascii 12:43:00 there's pdf if you prefer 12:43:26 its pure txt... anyway.. 12:44:06 in the first section it explains 12:44:17 also there's a unix shell in the spirit of rpl 12:44:23 rpl/2 i think or soemthing like that 12:45:17 brb 12:45:23 --- quit: gTs2 () 12:46:37 --- join: gTs2 (gTs2@patr530-b148.otenet.gr) joined #forth 12:48:49 gonna read it soon 12:49:03 but im in the middel of 3 other discussions atm 12:49:08 thx 4 the link 12:49:16 Hehe. 12:49:35 take your time 12:49:38 hey robert 12:49:42 how's school going 12:49:46 (if you go to school) 12:50:18 Yes, I do. 12:50:22 It's going fine. 12:52:56 cool 12:55:05 :) 12:57:38 allo mw 12:57:41 er 12:57:42 me 12:57:51 + To provide execution control and memory management, including plug-in memory; + To provide a programming language for rapid prototyping and application development; + To support a variety of business and technical calculators; + To execute identically out of RAM and ROM; + To minimize memory use, especially RAM; + To be transportable to various CPU's; + To be extensible; and + To support symbolic mathematical operations. 12:58:05 ? 12:58:38 that was for onetom 12:58:46 it's the way rpl is made 13:18:40 --- join: neobrat (~~jeff_tkd@h-64-105-21-62.DNVTCO56.covad.net) joined #forth 13:25:18 --- quit: neobrat () 13:30:02 gTs2: k, thx 14:11:44 --- quit: gTs2 () 14:38:10 --- quit: wossname ("nachtleggen") 14:53:55 --- quit: iusris ("Lost terminal") 15:31:53 --- join: lament (~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net) joined #forth 15:34:13 hi lament 15:34:40 h. 15:34:41 i. 15:35:26 have you heard of onyx? 15:37:03 no. 15:39:07 what is it? 15:39:20 YASOL 15:39:27 Yet another stack oriented language. 15:40:49 oh no, not again :) 15:40:57 any special features? 15:41:33 of course. its YALICG 15:41:41 Yet another language I cannot grok 15:42:38 is that a special feature? :) 15:42:50 hahahaha 15:47:17 langmaker.com sounds promising. 15:48:06 but its not :L 15:55:05 --- quit: gilbertbsd ("Client Exiting") 16:15:25 --- join: gTs2 (gTs2@patr530-a001.otenet.gr) joined #forth 16:44:52 --- join: I440r (~mark4@sdn-ap-034tnnashP0465.dialsprint.net) joined #forth 16:45:07 afk - reading 17:12:45 --- quit: gTs2 () 17:40:40 --- quit: semtex (Remote closed the connection) 17:46:18 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 17:54:03 --- join: gTs2 (gTs2@patr530-a001.otenet.gr) joined #forth 17:59:18 --- quit: gTs2 () 19:54:12 --- quit: lament ("mental mantle") 20:03:47 --- join: njd (melons@njd.paradise.net.nz) joined #forth 21:02:15 --- quit: njd ("subaru tecnica international | nissan motorsports international") 21:03:39 --- join: lament (~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net) joined #forth 21:08:01 --- quit: onetom (forward.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21:08:01 --- quit: skylan (forward.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21:09:04 --- join: onetom (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 21:09:04 --- join: skylan (sjh@207.164.213.78) joined #forth 21:09:44 --- join: onetom_ (~tom@novtan.bio.u-szeged.hu) joined #forth 21:09:45 --- quit: onetom (Remote closed the connection) 21:57:41 --- quit: Speuler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:58:39 --- join: Speuler (~l@mnch-d9ba427a.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #forth 22:14:14 --- join: Serg_Penguin (~Z@nat-ch1.nat.comex.ru) joined #forth 22:41:17 z 23:04:37 --- join: proteusguy (~username@65.191.88.177) joined #forth 23:09:47 z 23:19:56 hi 23:49:17 --- quit: Serg_Penguin () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/02.12.16