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03:10:14 <Serg_Penguin> hi !
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03:34:09 <Speuler> 'morning
03:34:46 <dunno> :-) howdy
03:35:06 <Speuler> griets
03:37:38 <Serg_Penguin> z
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03:44:24 <Serg_Penguin> zzzzzzz... hi !
03:44:42 <Serg_Penguin> ever wrote ( cgi ) scripts in Forth ?
03:45:10 * Serg_Penguin just wrote Dissociated Press in IsForth
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04:58:51 <Serg_Penguin> -> Robert  he-e-e-e-e-ey !
05:15:06 <Speuler> Serg_Penguin: semtex alias speuler
05:15:40 <Speuler> the irc client i use bombs sometimes, with 2nd login i can test and see the logout msg
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05:21:04 <Serg_Penguin> -> pse tag 'test' logins as such
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08:00:44 <Robert> Good evening...
08:00:51 <Robert> What does ROLL do?
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08:05:23 <gTs2> lo
08:06:30 <Robert> Hi there
08:08:13 <gTs2> i want to try this colorforth thing
08:08:17 <gTs2> but it seems childish
08:08:19 <gTs2> :/
08:08:26 <Robert> Good luck with starting it ;)
08:08:29 * Robert didn't manage to.
08:08:36 <Robert> Childish, why?
08:09:35 <gTs2> colorforth?!
08:10:17 <Robert> Why is it childish?
08:10:32 <gTs2> it reminds me of playdoh
08:11:26 <Robert> Does that really mean it has to be bad?
08:11:42 <gTs2> not bad
08:11:48 <gTs2> but...colors?!
08:12:36 <Robert> Yes?
08:13:36 <gTs2> ...
08:13:51 <Robert> That's used alot with other languages
08:13:57 <Robert> Never head of syntax highlighting?
08:14:02 <gTs2> ...
08:14:18 <gTs2> my calc doesn't have color display
08:14:23 <gTs2> and i want to do a forth inthere
08:14:40 <Robert> Oh. You can use other of Chuck's ideas there, then.
08:14:51 <Robert> colorForth isn't just about colors.
08:15:43 <gTs2> like underlining
08:15:44 <gTs2> what
08:16:28 <Robert> No...
08:16:31 <Robert> www.colorforth.com
08:16:34 <Robert> Read about it.
08:19:59 <Robert> Hrm. roll seems evil, but it's used in a nice piece of code I found on the fig-uk site.
08:20:20 <gTs2> roll is not evil
08:24:17 <gTs2> DROP is :))
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09:04:18 <Robert> I found out.
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12:07:22 <gTs2> yo
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12:45:27 * Robert has browsed around some Forth code on the FIG-UK page.
12:45:39 <Robert> Definitly not one-liners.
12:45:45 <Robert> More like four-screeners.
12:45:56 <gTs2> fig-uk ?
12:46:00 <Robert> "I believe that
12:46:01 <Robert> politically correct factoring would not help understanding and would
12:46:01 <Robert> degrade performance."
12:46:12 <Robert> http://www.fig-uk.org/
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13:40:58 <Robert> Hi there.
13:41:48 <gTs2> hello
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14:37:41 <Robert> Hey Herkamire :)
14:37:59 <gTs2> hello
14:38:05 <Robert> I've been browsing through the FIG-UK site, lots of nice stuff there.
14:38:17 <Robert> However, I haven't seen many pages with short words.
14:38:25 <Robert> Many are like 2 or more screens.
14:39:44 <gTs2> get source code for programs written for the hp calcs
14:39:52 <gTs2> or the one-minute-marvels book
14:40:17 <gTs2> which is about programs that are so small that you can type in a calculator in under a minute yet are very clever and useful
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15:54:58 <Herkamire> onetom: it's starting to look like bochs won't run enth/flux. bochs says in doen't do more than 8 bit color, and eth says it needs 32k or 16k colors
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19:13:07 <lament> hi Fractal.
19:20:46 <Fractal> Hey lament.
19:20:55 <Fractal> What's new?
19:21:08 <lament> new? heh
19:23:33 <Fractal> Heh. Back in a bit.
20:44:32 <onetom> hi guys
20:44:38 <onetom> ive some news
20:45:06 <onetom> ive invited sean springle (enth&flux author) here via email
20:45:34 <onetom> i also asked him 2 publish the gforth sources of yForum
20:46:00 <onetom> he did it (tho, i wasnt able 2 chk it coz the site was unaccessible in the meantime)
20:46:07 <onetom> how r ya?
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21:40:16 <onetom> hahhooo
21:40:22 <onetom> anybody here?
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21:57:31 <onetom> anybody here?
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22:14:51 <Serg_Penguin> hi
22:21:02 <onetom> hi
22:21:12 <onetom> could u give me a hand?
22:21:28 <onetom> http://www.ynet.com.au/sean/
22:22:02 <onetom> its not accessible from my coordinates
22:22:25 <onetom> could u try it wheater its accessible or not
22:22:34 <onetom> & could u give me its ip address?
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22:37:55 <Serg_Penguin> hey, who asked to check http://www.ynet.com.au/sean/ ?
22:37:59 <Serg_Penguin> it's dead
22:38:04 <Serg_Penguin> host not found
22:42:12 <onetom> :(
22:56:25 <Serg_Penguin> whadda u work on now ?
22:56:53 <Serg_Penguin> i just wrote a Dissociated Press in IsForth
22:57:49 <onetom> me?
22:58:11 <onetom> well... im learning & tryin 2 hack enth&flux
22:59:04 <Serg_Penguin> kewl
22:59:13 <onetom> it is. i know ;)
22:59:15 <Serg_Penguin> i tryed to write IDE drvr 4r it
22:59:21 <Serg_Penguin> but abandoned...
22:59:25 <onetom> id like it 2 b able 2 run inside bochs
22:59:37 <Serg_Penguin> after failure to bootload it from HDD, like normal OS
22:59:42 <Robert> Good morning all :)
22:59:46 <Serg_Penguin> hi
22:59:47 <onetom> so even tathi & herkamire can use it on their ppcs
22:59:56 <Robert> WHat's Dissociated Press?
23:00:03 <onetom> Robert: hi. pgup!
23:00:27 <onetom> Robert: i was just about 2 ask the same ;)
23:00:42 <onetom> Serg_Penguin: what is a dissociated press?
23:00:50 <Robert> Heh.
23:01:50 <Serg_Penguin> see jargon file, www.tuxedo.org/jargon or kinda like this
23:02:21 <Serg_Penguin> text mungle util to make funny words/ frazes
23:03:15 <Robert> Does anyone know what's up with the factoring in all Forth programs I see on fig-uk.org? There are like 4-screen words using goto and several loops.
23:03:20 <onetom> aha. kul
23:03:36 <Robert> I used to do that in BASIC ;)
23:03:43 <onetom> Robert: goto? url?
23:04:16 <Robert> Errr... I think that was one of the "permutation programs" at fig-uk.org
23:05:06 <Robert> But none of the programs I checked was even anywhere close to one-liners.
23:05:32 <Robert> Almost BASIC-style coding ;)
23:05:39 <Robert> brb, I'll go have a shower
23:07:05 <Serg_Penguin> the best factoring is zero rewrite
23:11:57 <onetom> Serg_Penguin: ? could u explain this a lil bit more?
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23:20:34 <Serg_Penguin> it's better to write from scratch than to massively rework others bad code
23:21:41 <lament> that's only if the code is _really_ bad
23:24:39 * Serg_Penguin goes down 4r hardware tests
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23:28:17 <pyromaniac> hrm is mark here?
23:48:52 <fridge> I'd like to be able to run enth on my PPC too =P
23:50:07 <Robert> Back.
23:50:57 <fridge> hey Robert
23:51:37 <Robert> :)
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