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08:44:27 * jacereda yawns
08:52:52 <jacereda> anyone has been to a #figuk meeting? how many people meet?
08:55:09 <XeF4> I was there last month, there were maybe.. 10 people
08:55:47 <jacereda> hmmm... why don't they just join #forth?
08:56:46 <XeF4> they predate #forth by some years
09:15:21 <jacereda> anyone has a 3ds max .ase file reader?
09:56:36 <onetom> jacereda: its the wrong channel 4 such a queation ;)
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10:18:28 <Robert> Hi tathi :)
10:18:48 <tathi> hey Robert 
10:19:22 <tathi> I spent the morning raiding library book sales.
10:19:37 <tathi> Picked up 40 books for a total of $24.25 :)
10:19:48 <Robert> Cool!
10:19:55 <Robert> Anything interesting?
10:20:06 <tathi> yah, found some good stuff
10:20:20 <tathi> Xanth books #4, 5, and 6 (back when they were still good)
10:20:30 <tathi> Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
10:20:48 <tathi> Dave Barry's Guide to Life :)
10:21:11 <tathi> Annapolis Book of Seamanship
10:21:16 <tathi> On Writing Well
10:21:21 <tathi> etc etc etc... :) :)
10:21:55 <Robert> Heh.
10:22:14 <Robert> Congratulations ;)
10:22:18 <tathi> I'm kind of addicted to books, can you tell? ;)
10:22:58 <Robert> Same here... I got supplies for a few more days.
10:22:59 <tathi> have been ever since my Mom taught me to read when I was 3 :)
10:23:13 <tathi> cool cool
10:23:26 <Robert> Heh, same here.
10:23:37 <tathi> my parents took me to a speed-reading course when I was 12 or so...since then I have trouble keeping myself in books
10:23:46 <Robert> Even though I didn't read that much back then... that started when I was like 7.
10:23:56 <Robert> Hehe...
10:24:00 <Robert> How do you read fast? :P
10:24:41 <tathi> Librarians always liked our family, Mom and us 5 boys would go in every three weeks and take out 10 books a piece... :)
10:25:06 <tathi> mainly the thing with speed-reading is to break yourself of the habit of pronouncing the words inside your head
10:25:23 <tathi> after that it's just practice, to make it a habit
10:26:11 <tathi> not hard, a couple of my brothers started doing it naturally
10:27:50 <Robert> Hehe.
10:28:20 <Robert> Moving the eyes takes too much time ;)
10:30:06 <tathi> Yeah, we should just have the stuff piped straight into our brains, save us the trouble of looking at it.
10:30:29 <Robert> Hehe.
10:30:41 <Robert> Or longer lines.
10:32:02 <XeF4> or shorter lines, I can keep about hm.. 50-60x15 in 10pt font in focus at a given moment without moving my eyes
10:32:45 <Robert> Hehe.
10:34:12 <tathi> :)
10:36:15 <XeF4> and even though it takes me a very short time to decode all the text in a 50x15 screen, I forget everything I read if I page through too quickly
10:36:36 <XeF4> (first 3-4 pages stick, then everything becomes a blur unless I rest a few seconds between pages)
10:37:02 <XeF4> s/pages/screens/
10:38:27 <tathi> yeah, I've found that too. If you go too fast, it just goes in short-term memory or something
10:38:37 <tathi> in one ear and out the other, as they say :)
10:51:21 <XeF4> http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/lgp-30-man.html
10:51:41 <XeF4> (Manual for the Royal McBee LGP-30)
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14:35:36 <TheBlueWizard> hiya all
14:51:48 <Robert> Hi :)
14:52:03 <TheBlueWizard> hiya Robert
15:06:35 <TheBlueWizard> gotta go...bye all
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15:29:27 <Speuler> 'morning
15:29:35 <Robert> Hi there.
16:01:29 * Speuler watches irc on a 60" screen :)
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16:01:59 <Robert> Heh!
16:02:10 <Robert> 60" is just... too big :)
16:02:31 <Speuler> disagree
16:02:37 <Robert> Hehe.
16:02:48 <Speuler> can still read from distance of 10 meters
16:05:36 <Robert> Hehe, that's nice.
16:05:40 <Robert> Resolution?
16:05:50 <Speuler> right now set to 1024x768
16:07:36 <Speuler> video projector
16:08:39 <Robert> :)
17:15:28 <Speuler> Robert: what happens to robert.zizi.org should your ip address change ?
17:17:48 <onetom> Speuler: didnt u reg'ed his ostling.no-ip.net address?
17:19:04 <Robert> Speuler: It's connected to ostling.no-ip.com
17:19:30 <Robert> Speuler: When my IP changes, I modify the IP ostling.no-ip.com points to.
17:19:39 <Speuler> ah
17:21:21 <Speuler> Robert: you can have a C record for forthfreak too, instead of ability to update (what you call "connected to")
17:21:41 <Speuler> mean you need to update a single place only
17:21:57 <Speuler> can no-ip do automatic update ?
17:25:14 <Robert> Well, I haven't got its client to work very well.
17:25:34 <Robert> And I've notices no-ip.com has some downtime :-/
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17:25:56 <onetom> Speuler: hi
17:25:58 <Robert> So, I'd be happy with the way I control the forthfreak DNS now.
17:26:05 <Robert> Well, good night.
17:26:10 <Speuler> hi 1tom
17:26:15 <onetom> Speuler: oops :) what dns server do u use?
17:26:21 <onetom> lament: hi
17:26:33 <Speuler> 1tom: my own
17:26:34 <lament> hi
17:27:05 <onetom> Speuler: imean, whats the name of the server sw
17:27:23 <Speuler> maradns
17:27:28 <onetom> Speuler: ramadns?
17:27:30 <Speuler> not bind :)
17:27:38 <onetom> ah :) it was close
17:27:49 * Speuler thinks bind is a security nightmare
17:28:30 <Speuler> i turned dns fingerprinting off
17:29:11 <Speuler> should be more difficult to determine what nameserver is used
17:29:33 <onetom> how easy 2 understand its config file format?
17:29:53 <onetom> is it able 2 pull dns data from db-es?
17:30:13 <Speuler> i find maradns simple
18:04:40 <Fractal> Hey all.
18:05:04 <onetom> hi
18:05:20 <Fractal> Trying to implemented huffman coding in forth.
18:05:32 <Fractal> Finished my local variables implementation too.
18:06:10 <Fractal> It's kind of a neat approach. Various dictionary entries are stored in a dictionary entry "name-space".
18:07:08 <onetom> yay, locals! dont advertise them too much plz ;)
18:07:37 <Fractal> Nothing wrong with locals, when used in moderation.
18:08:39 <Fractal> Also, it creates a new word ";" that when executed, unlinks (forgets) itself. :)
18:12:15 <Fractal> (Along with compiling in "kill-local-frame"). It's kind of an elegant approach, I think.
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19:14:29 <Speuler> cu l8er
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19:17:26 <onetom> Fractal: tail recursion? dont u plan 2 code 1?
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21:02:33 <Speuler> 'morning
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23:12:48 <Fractal> onetom : Well, it already does support tail recursion.
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